Re: Documentation Issues - was Re: [Way OT] mod_perl stopped working...

2002-04-15 Thread Ken Williams
On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, at 04:17 AM, drieux wrote: > may I request an official volume or on: > > "How to recover from having adopted peculiar coding > habits you picked up on the net and should never have > thought were a reasonable approach to solvi

Re: Documentation Issues - was Re: [Way OT] mod_perl stopped working...

2002-04-15 Thread drieux
On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 10:54 , Randal L. Schwartz wrote: [..] > Now, the next step would be to write a book that is "how to spend your > *second* 40 hours with Perl...". :) while that sorta sounds like a joke - it might help some of the folks I know - sober as a judge may I request a

Re: Documentation Issues - was Re: [Way OT] mod_perl stopped working...

2002-04-15 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Drieux" == Drieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Drieux> I have the first printing from 1991 version - does this version have Drieux> a name??? So that when I mention it, I can use the culturally Drieux> accepted term. This remains the dog eared, coffee stained, Drieux> fast thumber - in

scribble and it will be a production release - was Re: [Way OT] mod_perl stopped working...

2002-04-15 Thread drieux
On Sunday, April 14, 2002, at 06:21 , Bill -Sx- Jones wrote: >> --boring, cautious, obvious over commented code-- > > Nothing wrong with being OVERLY cautious, especially if YOU expect to > understand why you did what you did months or years later. > > I wrote a quick hack once to fix a short te

Documentation Issues - was Re: [Way OT] mod_perl stopped working...

2002-04-15 Thread drieux
On Sunday, April 14, 2002, at 07:59 , Puneet Kishor wrote: [..] > > I still think the llama book is one of the best books I have ever read... > I feel embarrassed to say that I read it as a book... a novel. What > Randal achieved there is enormous (By the way, I still have the pink > second ed

Re: [Way OT] mod_perl stopped working...

2002-04-14 Thread Puneet Kishor
I started this thread some aeons back, and if some of you think it is OT, sowwwy. but I just wanted to make a few comments... I appreciate and feel encourage by Randal's comments, although I wouldn't judge the PerlGolfers so harshly. Obviously, Randal is in a distinctly different position than

Re: [Way OT] mod_perl stopped working...

2002-04-14 Thread Bill -Sx- Jones
> --boring, cautious, obvious over commented code-- Nothing wrong with being OVERLY cautious, especially if YOU expect to understand why you did what you did months or years later. I wrote a quick hack once to fix a short term problem - three years later that code is STILL in use :( I can stil

Re: [Way OT] mod_perl stopped working...

2002-04-14 Thread Alex S
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:12:37 -0400, ellem wrote: > I'm a sys admin. I never told anyone I was a programmer. A few months > ago I got yanked into a coder meeting and one of my Perl Scripts was on > the wall in 4 foot glory and our manager was pointing out how NOT to > write code. He never as

Re: [Way OT] mod_perl stopped working...

2002-04-14 Thread ellem
On Sunday, April 14, 2002, at 01:54 , Gilmore-Baldwin, John wrote: > I can't imagine a quicker way to destroy those last two qualities (eager > and motivated) than to laugh at them for doing a little research (rtfm, > so to speak), finding an answer to a problem and using it. In my > experience,

RE: [Way OT] mod_perl stopped working...

2002-04-14 Thread Gilmore-Baldwin, John
Sorry. I know this is getting pretty far off topic. But... I couldn't agree more with the first sentence of this post. "Show-off" programming should only be used for entertainment, or not at all. That said, I think there's a difference between a show-off programmer (who may think he's really coo

RE: [Way OT] mod_perl stopped working...

2002-04-14 Thread Alex S
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:54:56 -0500, Gilmore-Baldwin, John wrote: > That said, I think there's a difference between a show-off programmer > (who may think he's really cool and smart for writing code that nobody > else can understand) and a person who's "new to perl" and using well > regarded refer