Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-23 Thread Mark Wheeler
Ok, I installed fink, no problems. I used $ sudo apt-get install imagemagick and installed imagemagick - no problems. I then used $ sudo apt-get install perlmagick-pm581 and got an error, couldn't find package perlmagick-pm581, so I'm guessing that is didn't install because fink couldn't find

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-23 Thread Peter N Lewis
And finally, I guess, this is basically all I want to use the ImageMagick for: Image resizing. Image compression - jpg Finding image DPI Finding image size Clean up image (sharpen, etc.) Well, other than sharpen, you can actually do all that in Image Events which comes with Mac OS X (10.3?).

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-23 Thread Ingo Weiss
% sudo fink -y install imagemagick % sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install Image::Magick' This gets you 90% of the way there, at least. I installed Fink after unsuccessfully trying to install Image::Magick using CPAN a couple of days ago. Fink is installing imagemagick as I write this. I was

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-23 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Mark Wheeler wrote: Ok, I installed fink, no problems. I used $ sudo apt-get install imagemagick and installed imagemagick - no problems. I then used $ sudo apt-get install perlmagick-pm581 and got an error, couldn't find package perlmagick-pm581, so I'm guessing

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-23 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Ingo Weiss wrote: I installed Fink after unsuccessfully trying to install Image::Magick using CPAN a couple of days ago. Fink is installing imagemagick as I write this. I was kind of hoping that this, and then installing Image::Magick using CPAN again, would actually get

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-23 Thread william ross
On 23 Sep 2004, at 12:28, Chris Devers wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Ingo Weiss wrote: I installed Fink after unsuccessfully trying to install Image::Magick using CPAN a couple of days ago. Fink is installing imagemagick as I write this. I was kind of hoping that this, and then installing

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-23 Thread Mark Wheeler
Sorry if I am prematurely coming to the list. That's the last thing I want to do. I'm learning as I go. And... I just learned some more. When I tried to install perlmagick, it gave me an error, could not find cc or gcc. I did a little looking around and it seems that it can't find a compiler.

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-23 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Mark Wheeler wrote: When I tried to install perlmagick, it gave me an error, could not find cc or gcc. Ahh, ok, that is something that needs to be addressed (and would have to be addressed no matter how you're getting your software, unless you luck out and there are

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-23 Thread Bill Stephenson
Really, you could have been using three different graphic engine API's since early yesterday if you had just downloaded and installed Sherm's Fat Camel and/or GraphicsKit. The guy built these awesome installers and you're completely ignoring it. In fact, here we are re-hashing some of the same

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-23 Thread Mark Wheeler
Yes, I'm sure you are right on all counts, but I'm a glutton for a little punishment, I guess. :) Trust me when I say I'm still keeping it in mind. I would just like to understand a bit more about what's going on under the hood. I like to be creative, but the other side of my brain likes a

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-23 Thread John Siracusa
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:47:27 -0700, Mark Wheeler wrote: Yes, I'm sure you are right on all counts, but I'm a glutton for a little punishment, I guess. :) Trust me when I say I'm still keeping it in mind. I would just like to understand a bit more about what's going on under the hood. I like to

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-23 Thread Bill Stephenson
On Sep 23, 2004, at 1:28 PM, John Siracusa wrote: In summary, ImageMagick is evil, and building it from source is a pain. But it's *still* better than trusting someone else to do it and then allowing them to spray files all over your disk :) That's not what happens with Sherm's installer. It's

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Mark Wheeler
You'll have to help me a little here. Who is Sherm Pendley and what is Fat Camel /Graphics Kit? Thanks, Mark On Sep 22, 2004, at 9:22 AM, Bill Stephenson wrote: I installed it (but have not used it) on Panther without any trouble at all using Sherm Pendley's Fat Camel GraphicsKit. I highly

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Mark Wheeler
So I need to use sudo or is that neccasary in this case? Thanks, Mark On Sep 22, 2004, at 9:29 AM, Ryan Perry wrote: Learn to use CPAN. on newer versions of perl you can type: cpan you'll then get a new command line: cpan type install ModuleNameHere, so: cpan install PerlMagick sometimes you have

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sep 22, 2004, at 12:16 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote: I am about to install my first module. And for that you've chosen Image::Magick? Nothing like jumping into the deep end first, eh? :-) First, how difficult is it to install these modules? There are quite a few C libraries that are needed first,

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sep 22, 2004, at 1:10 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote: So I need to use sudo or is that neccasary in this case? Yes, you need to run the CPAN shell with sudo. On Sep 22, 2004, at 9:29 AM, Ryan Perry wrote: sometimes you have to use force: cpan force install PerlMagick *Don't* just blindly do this

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Mark Wheeler
In regards to the pre-install package, would I need to install both the Fat Camel AND Fat Camel - GraphicsKit, or just the GraphicsKit? What I am intending to use the ImageMagick for is to manipulate images that are uploaded and display them in different formats, basically a photo gallery for

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread william ross
On 22 Sep 2004, at 17:16, Mark Wheeler wrote: Hi, I am about to install my first module. I've been learning perl for the past several years and am building a web site that needs ImageMagick/PerlMagick. First, how difficult is it to install these modules? I really really wouldn't start out by

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Mark Wheeler
Imager? I've not heard of that one. Can you give me a bit more info on it? How is is different from ImageMagick? Thanks, Mark On Sep 22, 2004, at 11:11 AM, william ross wrote: On 22 Sep 2004, at 17:16, Mark Wheeler wrote: Hi, I am about to install my first module. I've been learning perl for the

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sep 22, 2004, at 1:46 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote: In regards to the pre-install package, would I need to install both the Fat Camel AND Fat Camel - GraphicsKit, or just the GraphicsKit? That's a good question. ;-) I built and tested the GraphicsKit package with the Perl 5.8.4 that's included in

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Bill Stephenson
On Sep 22, 2004, at 12:46 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote: In regards to the pre-install package, would I need to install both the Fat Camel AND Fat Camel - GraphicsKit, or just the GraphicsKit? What I am intending to use the ImageMagick for is to manipulate images that are uploaded and display them in

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sep 22, 2004, at 2:11 PM, william ross wrote: If you do have to use imagemagick, in the archives of this list you will find several weary howto's ... of varying degrees of accuracy. any chance at all of making it work you must first install fink Nonsense. You must first install the C libraries

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Chris Devers
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Sherm Pendley wrote: On Sep 22, 2004, at 2:11 PM, william ross wrote: any chance at all of making it work you must first install fink Nonsense. You must first install the C libraries you need. Fink is *one* way to get them, not the only one. It's certainly a very

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Mark Wheeler
There are instructions for installing ImageMagic on the ImageMagick site. Should I just follow the Unix instructions? As well, it sounds like I need to install the C libraries first, then ImageMagick. Also, from what I gather, after I install the C libraries and ImageMagick, then I need to

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Chris Devers
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Mark Wheeler wrote: There are instructions for installing ImageMagic on the ImageMagick site. Swell. As I was saying though, if you install Fink, you can take advantage of the fact that someone already automated all of this for you. But hey, some people like

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Andrew Brosnan
On 9/22/04 at 1:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Wheeler) wrote: This is why I'm looking at ImageMagick. Am I going in the right direction here, or is there something else (Imager?) that will do the same thing with less of an installation procedure? Has anyone used the Darwin Port?

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Chris Devers
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Sherm Pendley wrote: On Sep 22, 2004, at 4:13 PM, Chris Devers wrote: If you really want to prove to yourself how much rounder your wheel will be, then yes, use the Unix instructions. Or, if you want to see how that wheel got so round. I'm all for self-improvement!

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sep 22, 2004, at 2:57 PM, Chris Devers wrote: The ability to do this by hand can obviously be valuable, but it can hardly be easier :-) I didn't say it was easier without Fink, I said it was possible. William stated that, to have *any* chance *at all* of making it work, you *must* install

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Mark Wheeler
Well the nice thing here is, it's for my family, not for work. This particular project is done my spare time.. you know between 12am and 3am. :) So time wise, it's not a problem. Mark On Sep 22, 2004, at 2:05 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote: On Sep 22, 2004, at 4:13 PM, Chris Devers wrote: If you

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Mark Wheeler
Ok... it seems to me that my two best options are as follows: 1. Install fink and then install ImagaMagick (as per below) 2. Install PerlMagick 3. Install the addition C libraries so as to have access to image manipulation and compression and such or 1. Install the Darwin port of ImageMagick.

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Chris Devers
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Mark Wheeler wrote: Ok... it seems to me that my two best options are as follows: 1. Install fink and then install ImagaMagick (as per below) 2. Install PerlMagick 3. Install the addition C libraries so as to have access to image manipulation and compression and such

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread Mark Wheeler
Agreed. Somtimes I overthink things and foget what the goal was in the first place. I'll install fink then use you oneliner to install image/perl magick. I'll let you know how it all goes. Thanks again, Mark On Sep 22, 2004, at 3:31 PM, Chris Devers wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Mark Wheeler

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread william ross
On 22 Sep 2004, at 22:14, Sherm Pendley wrote: On Sep 22, 2004, at 2:57 PM, Chris Devers wrote: The ability to do this by hand can obviously be valuable, but it can hardly be easier :-) I didn't say it was easier without Fink, I said it was possible. William stated that, to have *any* chance *at

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread George Smith
You can also use the Darwin Ports facility to get a copy of ImageMagick: $ port list | grep ImageMagick ImageMagick graphics/ImageMagick6.0.2-7 Tools and libraries to manipulate images in many formats rb-rmagick ruby/rb-rmagick 1.5.0 The Ruby interface to

Re: ImageMagick/PerlMagick on Panther

2004-09-22 Thread william ross
On 22 Sep 2004, at 19:21, Mark Wheeler wrote: Imager? I've not heard of that one. Can you give me a bit more info on it? How is is different from ImageMagick? It's a little more to the point than imagemagick: it will resize, translate and perform basic filters, but it lacks the more esoteric