Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-25 Thread Eric A. Borisch
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Lawrence Velázquez lar...@macports.org wrote: On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:02 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote: On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Christopher Ramos wrote: Perhaps it would be feasible to employ an agent or daemon that logs all changes

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-24 Thread Dominik Reichardt
On 25.06.2015, at 00:10, Christopher Ramos chrisdavidra...@gmail.com wrote: Macports, like the Mac App Store, is *curated*; it's not the same thing as going to some fly-by-night website, downloading, and installing willy nilly. But that’s the crucial thing which you don’t seem to

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Christopher Ramos chrisdavidra...@gmail.com wrote: Hm, well I understand your point and, while valid, it's not relevant to my point. For one, I'm not referring to the problem with a user downloading malicious code or code that does something the user doesn't

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jun 23, 2015, at 10:03 PM, Christopher D. Ramos wrote: Yes, that is what I was saying, where, again, by git project, you mean some software project that just so happens to do its development in a git repository. The use of git is incidental to the problem. Heh, I think I finally see

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-24 Thread Christopher Ramos
Hm, well I understand your point and, while valid, it's not relevant to my point. For one, I'm not referring to the problem with a user downloading malicious code or code that does something the user doesn't understand. Macports, like the Mac App Store, is *curated*; it's not the same thing as

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-24 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Christopher Ramos chrisdavidra...@gmail.com wrote: You can systematically avoid it by letting the operating system's security do its thing: Don't use superuser privileges to build software, and don't use them to install unless you know what it's going to do.

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Christopher Ramos wrote: Hm, well I understand your point and, while valid, it's not relevant to my point. For one, I'm not referring to the problem with a user downloading malicious code or code that does something the user doesn't understand. But yes you are.

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-24 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:02 PM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote: On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Christopher Ramos wrote: Perhaps it would be feasible to employ an agent or daemon that logs all changes to a user's installation. That way, if it's ever bungled by an outside force, the

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-24 Thread Christopher Ramos
You can systematically avoid it by letting the operating system's security do its thing: Don't use superuser privileges to build software, and don't use them to install unless you know what it's going to do. Wow, you know, wow. Now you have me wondering if I've gotten too comfortable using sudo.

Re: Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
On Tue, June 23, 2015 16:53, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Christopher David Ramos m74z00...@gmail.com wrote: Still, I think the Macports version of git should have some mechanism, or some warning -- something -- to warn or prevent conflicts between Macports and

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Christopher David Ramos
On 6/23/15 4:53 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Christopher David Ramos m74z00...@gmail.com mailto:m74z00...@gmail.com wrote: Still, I think the Macports version of git should have some mechanism, or some warning -- something -- to warn or prevent

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Christopher David Ramos
On 6/23/15 4:51 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Jun 23, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Christopher David Ramos wrote: I don't think you understand what Git is. Git is not a platform by any reasonable definition of the word. It's a version control system: a tool that allows content creators (usually

Re: Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Christopher David Ramos
Hiya larryv, I don't think you understand what Git is. Git is not a platform by any reasonable definition of the word. It's a version control system: a tool that allows content creators (usually software developers) to organize and distribute their work (usually source code). Git has

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jun 23, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Christopher David Ramos wrote: I don't think you understand what Git is. Git is not a platform by any reasonable definition of the word. It's a version control system: a tool that allows content creators (usually software developers) to organize and distribute

Re: Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Dear everyone (but mostly other developers), I think this was all just an unfortunate misunderstanding. What I *believe* happened (but I have no way to know) is that the OP probably tried to build a project cloned with git. That project required autotools and failed to build because of the weird

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Christopher David Ramos m74z00...@gmail.com wrote: Please forgive me if what I'm suggesting is not feasible. That said, it was my understanding that makefiles include instructions on what and where libraries should be built. More or less. If there were a

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Jun 23, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Jeremy Lavergne jer...@lavergne.gotdns.org wrote: On Tue, June 23, 2015 16:53, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Christopher David Ramos m74z00...@gmail.com wrote: Still, I think the Macports version of git should have some

Re: Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Christopher David Ramos m74z00...@gmail.com wrote: Still, I think the Macports version of git should have some mechanism, or some warning -- something -- to warn or prevent conflicts between Macports and git projects. Umm, AI much? Basically you seem to be

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Jeremy Lavergne jer...@lavergne.gotdns.org wrote: If only we tracked what each package installed: we could find all conflicts before they happen, and we could tell people what packages to install for a given binary! oh, you mean like contents list?

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Christopher David Ramos wrote: Please forgive me if what I'm suggesting is not feasible. That said, it was my understanding that makefiles include instructions on what and where libraries should be built. Yes. If there were a special Macports version of

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Christopher D. Ramos
Yes, that is what I was saying, where, again, by git project, you mean some software project that just so happens to do its development in a git repository. The use of git is incidental to the problem. Heh, I think I finally see where we are talking pass one another. I wholeheartedly agree

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Jun 23, 2015, at 11:03 PM, Christopher D. Ramos chrisdavidra...@gmail.com wrote: That said, I don't think it's merely incidental. I assure you that it is. After all, git is, in a sense, part of the Macports ecosystem by virtue of a version of it being hosted by Macports. Is there not a

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Jun 23, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Jeremy Lavergne jer...@lavergne.gotdns.org wrote: Goodness that appeared terrifyingly manual. yes, I believe it predates the destroot support in MacPorts (that change happened right around the time I first started paying attention to the project IIRC, so I don’t

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
Goodness that appeared terrifyingly manual. Now that we have buildbots, I'd hope we consider letting them come up with this as an infrastructure matter. On Tue, June 23, 2015 17:28, Daniel J. Luke wrote: oh, you mean like contents list?

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-23 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Christopher David Ramos wrote: There is no inherent conflict between MacPorts and any given software downloaded with git. Rather, there is (apparently, from what you've told us) a conflict between MacPorts and the specific software you downloaded with git,

Re: [MacPorts] #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port is deactivated causes poppler and other ports using aclocal to fail during configuration.

2015-06-19 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
Moving this to macports-users, as it's quite off-topic for the ticket. You may have to subscribe to the list to respond. https://trac.macports.org/wiki/MailingLists On Jun 19, 2015, at 3:59 PM, MacPorts nore...@macports.org wrote: #47755: Broken symlink left by select code when selected port