Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Carolyn Ann Grant
I've changed my mind. :-) I translated part of a project into Obj-C, and it just wasn't the same. I *like* the Ruby language, and while MacRuby has its foibles, it's still very good. Here's my reasoning: Apple isn't going to do a consumer release of 10.9 any time soon - according to the press

Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Mark Villacampa
IMHO MacRuby and now Rubymotion apps deployment is really reasy. To create a release version of a .app in RubyMotion you just "rake release" and you're done. For cross-platform development with Qt, Tk or wx, the situation in Python has always been better than in Ruby. I don't know how we'll main

Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Kevin Walzer
On 5/16/13 2:38 PM, Mark Villacampa wrote: The momentum around MacRuby has been inexistent for almost a year and a half. That is, since Laurent Sansonetti (the original creator of MacRuby) left Apple, and that left the project without maintainers who were being paid to work on it. Only Watson an

Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Sean Mateus
@John Labovitz, you're able to run your ruby script in Rubymotion just like in Macruby, the only thing you'll need to do is to replace *#!/usr/local/bin/macruby *with* #!/Library/RubyMotion/bin/ruby *and you're ready to go. cheers, Mateus On Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:24:07 PM UTC+2, John Labo

Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Shaun August
@Andy, I can't believe I missed that! Thanks! -- Shaun On Thursday, 16 May, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Andy Stechishin wrote: > @Shaun: I think RubyMotion 2 is that offering. > > @Mark: Well said. I dabbled in MacRuby and thought it would be great if > 'they' could get something going for IOS. MY f

Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Mark Villacampa
@John Labovitz, you should probably ask that in the Rubymotion mail list or in #rubymotion @ freenode on IRC. I dont know the answer, sorry. Sent from my iPhone On 16/05/2013, at 21:24, John Labovitz wrote: > Many of my personal MacRuby projects are somewhat peculiar in that they not > only a

Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread John Labovitz
Many of my personal MacRuby projects are somewhat peculiar in that they not only avoid Xcode and Interface builder, they aren't even application bundles. Instead, they're just Ruby files with an executable bit that I run from the command line. Do you know whether this mode of development is sup

Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Ian Ragsdale
It's not so much the price, it's one more company that you're depending on - you no longer really control your own destiny. What happens if HipByte decides they are charging way too little, and they decide that it now will cost $5k to continue using MacRuby? Or $10k? I'm not saying that this i

Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Carolyn Ann Grant
Thanks, Mark! Yeah, I know the price is more than reasonable, Mark, it's just that right now, we're not in a position to afford much of anything. Without getting too personal, we're still digging out from the Great Recession, which hit my family pretty hard. (As they say in DC, "mistakes were m

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby-devel Digest, Vol 63, Issue 3

2013-05-16 Thread yasha0x80
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Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Andy Stechishin
@Shaun: I think RubyMotion 2 is that offering. @Mark: Well said. I dabbled in MacRuby and thought it would be great if 'they' could get something going for IOS. MY first thought when RubyMotion came out was I needed to buy a license to support HipByte, I have never regretted this and bought my ext

Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Shaun August
I would like to see Laurent and Hipbyte offer a paid version of MacRuby with the same pricing structure as RubyMotion. I'd buy it... -- Shaun On Thursday, 16 May, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Mark Villacampa wrote: > I'm a longtime RubyMotion user, and MacRuby user before that. I want to share > my v

Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Mark Villacampa
I'm a longtime RubyMotion user, and MacRuby user before that. I want to share my view as to what is the current status of MacRuby and what can happen in the future. The momentum around MacRuby has been inexistent for almost a year and a half. That is, since Laurent Sansonetti (the original crea

Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Christopher S Martin
They recently added support for OS X to rubymotion: http://blog.rubymotion.com/post/49943751398/rubymotion-goes-2-0-and-gets-os-x-support-templates That said, since rubymotion is (I believe) based off of macruby with some additions specifically around static compilation of apps, I don't know if the

Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Jeff Dyck
Just wanted to add a ditto to this - I'm looking at migrating some old AppleScript Studio projects to MacRuby - my initial testing about a year ago was great, but it seems the stability of MacRuby as a development platform is in question to me at least... I've already been abandoned by AppleScri

Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread John Labovitz
Add me in as another questioner of MacRuby's future. (And thanks for bringing this up -- I'd been meaning to do so myself.) The GC issue is the most obvious, but I've also noticed a distinct lack of updates and general involvement by any of the maintainers. Looking at the already-sparse mailing

Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Michael Shantzis
Hello all (and especially Carolyn), I just want to say that I have the same question, specifically regarding the GC/ARC issue. The context in which this came up was very revealing. I had been developing a fairly complex Cocoa project (ARC enabled) and decided that I had to add some tests. Using

[MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future...

2013-05-16 Thread Carolyn Ann Grant
Hi, I've got a question about the future of MacRuby. I like it, and have started working on a project or two using it, but I've been reading about GC and ARC, Ruby 2.0, RubyMotion and so on, and wonder where MacRuby is going? I'm quite concerned because I've put a good amount of time into my Mac