Re: Calling All Focus 40 Blue Users

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Can you please post it here? I am going to take a gander that this is definitely on topic, since it relates to using Braille with Lion. It hadn't occurred to me to do this. (slapping my forehead several times) LOL Thanks, Teresa I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan. On Mar 29, 2012, at 9:59 PM,

Re: importing vo-preffereces in osx-lion

2012-03-30 Thread Jürgen Fleger
The issue is quite annoying. I wished, Apple at first fixed all the issues in VO and added then new features. Sometimes I have the feeling, they are beginning to do the same mistakes like Freedom Scientific. Including new features but ignoring the major bugs like settings import, tables in text

Re: Calling All Focus 40 Blue Users

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
I've attempted to do a google search and also search the FS website and the Focus 40 Blue manual. I've found no instructions for updating firmware. I have had this problem for over a year, and I'm reasonably sure others have, too. I think it would be great to post the instructions for firmware

Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57

2012-03-30 Thread Scott Erichsen
Downloadable Focus 40 Blue Update This firmware update for the Focus 40 Blue addresses an issue which arose after a recent release of Apple's OSX operating system that affects Braille output from an Apple computer over USB. How to Download and Install the Update Note: Windows is

Re: importing vo-preffereces in osx-lion

2012-03-30 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I think this is pretty subjective. Sure, the things you mention are bugs but, it depends on the person if they are major or not. In regards to word processing, since the voiceover team to my knowledge don't make pages or text edit, it would be more up to those people to work with the

Re: Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thank you so very much. Much appreciated! Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

Re: Calling All Focus 40 Blue Users

2012-03-30 Thread David McLean
I called Freedom Scientific and they sent me a link to get the latest version. It doesn't appear to be readily available on their site for some reason. On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:59 AM, Kolby wrote: Hello Scott, I have a focus 40 blue running firmware version 4.53. How do I go about updating

to those who use google chrome

2012-03-30 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Just a heads up to let you know that chrome 18 is out, and if you have 17 installed, it will automatically update without asking. A few notes on this new release: 1-now entering a text field is much more obvious, as voice over announces with that clickety sound. 2-the tabs work in a much more

Online User Guide for Lion

2012-03-30 Thread M. Taylor
Hello All, Thank you so much for the reply to my request for assistance on the Focus 40 Blue. Does anyone know the URL for the online user guide for Lion? I have the URL for the iOS guide which is: http://help.apple.com/iphone/5/voiceover/en/index.html but for the life of me, cannot locate

RE: baffled in lion 3 column mail layout help please!

2012-03-30 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Ioana, You can turn header info on for a specific message by using key-combo: Command+Shift+h. Please note that this is a toggle. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ioana Gandrabur Sent: Thursday, March

RE: How can I check if reply was sent in lion mail layout

2012-03-30 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Ioana, In the current version of Apple Mail the Reply status is not read by VoiceOver in non-classic view. This is a bug that has been reported and documented to Apple. Hopefully, this will be addressed before the release of Mountain Lion. Mark From:

RE: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

2012-03-30 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Jenny, There is no special trick to replying to only one person on a list. Please keep in mind that how this will be done will depend greatly upon how the Mailing List is configured said configuration being done by the Mailing List owner. In the case of the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries

RE: Calling All Focus 40 Blue Users

2012-03-30 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Moses, Thank you for the episode number of the Freedom Scientific podcast that deals with Focus 40 Blue. I will listen to it. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Moses Choo Sent: Thursday, March 29,

RE: Calling All Focus 40 Blue Users

2012-03-30 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Kristyn, I just unboxed it and I believe that it says that I am running version 4.57. By the way, is there a table of Braille commands that I can get that will give me all of the Mac recognized commands for Braille displays? I have such a list for my iOS device, already. mark

RE: Calling All Focus 40 Blue Users

2012-03-30 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Scott, I am currently running 4.57 but I would appreciate it a great deal if you would list the steps in order to upgrade the firmware for the Focus 40 Blue. Thank you, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On

Re: Calling All Focus 40 Blue Users

2012-03-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I believe if you go in to the VO F8 braille, help on the Mac there is a list of commands for each individual braille display. If not, I'll look on the web it and send. Kawal. On 30 Mar 2012, at 11:33 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Kristyn, I just unboxed it and I believe that

RE: Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57

2012-03-30 Thread M. Taylor
Thank you, Scott. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Erichsen Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:38 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57 Downloadable Focus 40 Blue Update

Re: to those who use google chrome

2012-03-30 Thread Les Kriegler
I went looking for Google Chrome and also searched for Chrome in the App Store and could not find it. How does one obtain the Chrome browser? Thanks. Les On Mar 30, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: Just a heads up to let you know that chrome 18 is out, and if you have 17

Re: Calling All Focus 40 Blue Users

2012-03-30 Thread Claus Thøgersen
What is the latest version then? Den 30-03-2012 11:26, David McLean skrev: I called Freedom Scientific and they sent me a link to get the latest version. It doesn't appear to be readily available on their site for some reason. On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:59 AM, Kolby wrote: Hello Scott, I have

RE: Calling All Focus 40 Blue Users

2012-03-30 Thread M. Taylor
The latest firmware version for the Focus 40 Blue Braille display is 4.57. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Claus Thøgersen Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 4:10 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

hard time reading man pages in terminal

2012-03-30 Thread Eric Oyen
is there an easier to get info on a command in terminal. the man pages read, but in a broken fashion that makes finding the relevant information frustratingly difficult. the page won't read every line when the down arrow is depressed. this forces me to interact in word mode to find out what was

Re: to those who use google chrome

2012-03-30 Thread Ricardo Walker
The thing that I find annoying in chrome is, you can't jump to links found in tables. You have to actually navigate with VO plus arrow keys to get to these links. On certain sites, I've noticed chunks of text are just missing as well. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info

question about Apple wired keyboard with num pad.

2012-03-30 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi folks, I haven't used the wired Apple keyboard with num pad in years. I was wondering, does it have an FN key? If so, where? I ask because I use the f1, f2, keys etc as standard function keys. So I need the FN key to do thins like adjust volume. TIA. Ricardo Walker

Re: question about Apple wired keyboard with num pad.

2012-03-30 Thread Kevin Mattingly
The FN Key is located in the grouping of keys between the keyboard and the Numpad. It is the key in the middle row, far left. Kev On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi folks, I haven't used the wired Apple keyboard with num pad in years. I was wondering, does it have an FN

Fwd: Using Braille Displays with Mac Computers.

2012-03-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hope this is OK. Kawal. Begin forwarded message: From: Gucukoglu, Kawal kawal.gucuko...@rnib.org.uk Date: 30 March 2012 01:02:46 PM GMT+01:00 To: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Subject: Using Braille Displays with Mac Computers. Chapter 10. Using Braille Displays This chapter provides

Fwd: Command and Gestures.

2012-03-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Begin forwarded message: From: Gucukoglu, Kawal kawal.gucuko...@rnib.org.uk Date: 30 March 2012 01:46:16 PM GMT+01:00 To: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Subject: Command and Gestures. Appendix A. Commands and Gestures This appendix lists VoiceOver commands and gestures, organized into

Fwd: Updated commands for the I phone.

2012-03-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Begin forwarded message: From: Gucukoglu, Kawal kawal.gucuko...@rnib.org.uk Date: 30 March 2012 01:54:05 PM GMT+01:00 To: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Subject: Updated commands for the I phone. Support for wireless braille displays in iOS 5 iPad, iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS, and

audible files

2012-03-30 Thread May McDonald
I'm having a serious brain freeze this morning. Is there a way to change the audible books so that they are mp3 so that they can be played on another device? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

Fwd: THE REAL DOCUMENT THIS TIME.

2012-03-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Begin forwarded message: From: Gucukoglu, Kawal kawal.gucuko...@rnib.org.uk Date: 30 March 2012 02:11:07 PM GMT+01:00 To: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Subject: THE REAL DOCUMENT THIS TIME. Common Braille commands for VoiceOver navigation Summary When using a Braille display with

Re: audible files

2012-03-30 Thread Scott Bresnahan
Hi, No. Audible uses digital rights management (DRM). However, I have a great program called Audio Book Converter, that converts Audible books to MP3 for just this purpose. The first thing I do when I download a new audible book, is to convert it so I can use it where ever and whenever I

Re: Questions about switching from PC to Mac

2012-03-30 Thread Marc Rocheleau
Hello there, It's funny you mention flash because one of my big questions is browsing the web. I use sites like facebook, gmail, etc... on a regular basis and was wondering how easy/difficult they are to use with a Mac and VO -- I know facebook is a pain to navigate through with jaws on my PC

Re: audible files

2012-03-30 Thread May McDonald
Thanks, I'll check that out. Definitely could come in handy. On 2012-03-30, at 9:28 AM, Scott Bresnahan wrote: Hi, No. Audible uses digital rights management (DRM). However, I have a great program called Audio Book Converter, that converts Audible books to MP3 for just this purpose.

Re: question about Apple wired keyboard with num pad.

2012-03-30 Thread Ricardo Walker
Ah! Thanks. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Mar 30, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote: The FN Key is located in the grouping of keys between the keyboard and the Numpad. It is the key in the middle row,

Re: THE REAL DOCUMENT THIS TIME.

2012-03-30 Thread Gigi
This is an incredibly valuable thing, this document you posted. I have been looking for these commands for ever. They also work on the back. I tested it. Regards GG Sent from my iPhone On Mar 30, 2012, at 8:23 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Begin forwarded message: From:

aThe slim Braille Pen.

2012-03-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello. I have just purchased the Slim Braille Pen, priced at £295 the cheapest refreshable braille I have seen so far although I do have a Euro braille 40 which I use as well. Just wish to know if anyone has used this either their mac or I phone? All experiences are welcome. Kawal. -- You

Re: THE REAL DOCUMENT THIS TIME.

2012-03-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
That's great GIGI glad I could assist. I'm still learning to use my braille device with my Mac and now also soon with my braille slim Pen although that's more for my I phone unless I do not like it then I'll sell it. On 30 Mar 2012, at 04:11 PM, Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This is an

Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

2012-03-30 Thread Steve Holmes
That's interesting, Mark, as when I reply here with the gmail web interface, it only puts the list address in the To: field and leaves the Cc: field empty. I wonder if it depends some on the client being used. Not sure about the reply all function in gmail; that would probably stick the second

Re: audible files

2012-03-30 Thread Mary Otten
Not legally. You're not suppose to change the format of the audible files. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

Re: Accessible Excel for the mac or something not as hard to use and confusing as Numbers

2012-03-30 Thread Steve Holmes
On 3/29/12, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: I use calc to handle all my company accounts. I track receivables, expenses, hours worked, billed, collected and remaining. the open office word processer leaves a bit to be desired, but the spreadsheeting componant is really super.

Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

2012-03-30 Thread Chris Blouch
The Java version in OSX isn't horribly old. When I do java -version it says (among other things) java version 1.6.0_29 Which is Java SE 6 Update 29 which came out October 2011. There have been two updates since in the fairly regular every-other-month releases. Not sure how well things work

Re: hard time reading man pages in terminal

2012-03-30 Thread Chris Blouch
This was posted previously on the list to load up man pages using Preview: man -t bash | open -a preview -f Maybe that would do a better job. Of course you would replace bash with whatever command you actually wanted man pages for. I found it was somewhat readable with VO but sometimes jumped

Re: Using Braille Displays with Mac Computers.

2012-03-30 Thread Gigi
Hi there Does anybody out there know if there is a way to toggle on and off the display of control characters question I don't want to global replace them out, because it would mess up my file. However, I really need to be able to turn them on and off if possible to make reading easier. Regards

Re: hard time reading man pages in terminal

2012-03-30 Thread Esther
Hi Eric, Chris, and Others, My suggestion for reading man pages for terminal commands is to download the freeware program bwana: http://bruji.com/bwana/ This program lets you use your browser to read man pages, and for the example that Chris cited of reading the man page for bash, you'd simply

Re: Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Unfortunately, a username and password is required to access the files. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Mar 30, 2012, at 3:39 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Thank you, Scott. Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On

Re: to those who use google chrome

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
How are frames read in Chrome now? There used to be a big problem with that. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Mar 30, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: The thing that I find annoying in chrome is, you can't jump to links found in tables. You have to actually

Re: to those who use google chrome

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hello, Les, try this; http://www.google.com/chrome HTH, Teresa Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself.--Albert Einstein On Mar 30, 2012, at 4:03 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: I went looking for Google Chrome and also searched for Chrome in the App Store and could not find it. How does

Re: Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
It might be necessary for folks to contact FS tech support individually. I just did this. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Unfortunately, a username and password is required to access the files. Teresa On the

Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

2012-03-30 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
HI there, I tried to follow your instructions about deleting the list address from the to field but I only have that one appearing so if deleted I am left with nothing. Still the best way for me is to go to headers field and find the from field and from the shortcut menu select reply to

lion mail layout messages marked as read as I pas through them?

2012-03-30 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hello, I have turned message preview to none in view preferences. However, wen I vo through the list of messages if they are not part of a conversation, the messages are marked as read. Can I avoid this? It makes sifting through mail confusing since often I am looking for urea messages and

Help with iCloud: All Contacts Not Syncing

2012-03-30 Thread Buddy Brannan
Howdy, I wonder if anyone's got any ideas on this. I have a bunch of contacts on my Mac. I guess over a couple of times trying to get everything in sync, some had multiples. So, yesterday, I deleted the multiples from my Mac. Then I noticed a bunch of contacts were no longer on the iPhone.

Re: lion mail layout messages marked as read as I pas through them?

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Ioana, In Mail Preferences, go to the View tab and press VO-space. Navigate to the checkbox: Mark all messages as read when opening a conversation. This is assuming you have your messages grouped into conversations. HTH, Teresa I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan. On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:19

Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

2012-03-30 Thread Jennifer Perdue
Hi, Just got my Mac going again and am still very new to it. I'm not sure how to get to the headers field and finding what you said to find. I don't even know how to get to the To: field of the message. To navigate messages, I simply see the list and then use VO J to get to the message.

Re: importing vo-preffereces in osx-lion

2012-03-30 Thread Sean Murphy
HI, All companies regardless if they are specialising in Assistive technology introduce new features. The customer base drives the feature requests which is the market base. If the company cannot reproduce a problem. Then how can they fix it. Assuming this is the case with the issue you have

Re: importing vo-preffereces in osx-lion

2012-03-30 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi Ricardo, that's a point of view. But honnestly: Drag and Drop thing doesn't work quite well, most of the time it doesn't work at all. Even Airdrop doesn't work reliably with this drag and drop. Activities are nice to have but how often do you use it? Of course the tables also depend on the

Re: importing vo-preffereces in osx-lion

2012-03-30 Thread Jürgen Fleger
All I mentioned is pretty easy to duplicate. So it's not a matter of reproduce these bugs it's just an issue of man power I suppose. And so my concern is that they will not have enough man power to fix all the major bugs and to create more new features at the same time. J Am 30.03.2012 um 22:07

Re: to those who use google chrome

2012-03-30 Thread Rose Morales
Yeah, I have Safari lying around as a backup browser. But in my experience, if something isn't accessible in Chrome, it's usually not accessible in Safari either. I guess it depends on where you go. But overall, I love Chrome. It's going to stay my default browser. On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:31 AM,

Re: to those who use google chrome

2012-03-30 Thread Rose Morales
Sorry for the extra message. I just checked my Chrome version number. I'm using a dev build of Chrome which is up to version 19. So if you guys are having issues, you might want to try downloading a build from the dev channel. On Mar 30, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com

Re: audible files

2012-03-30 Thread Emrah
Actually, to be fair, he is not changing the format of the file. The original file remains just as it is. He is copying the output into a different file. This could as easily be performed with a jack cable. Same happens if you burn the book to a CD, and that would be allowed. Always great to

Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Jennifer, In the message area, VO-left-arrow once and you should hear message headers group. Interact with this, and it will behave as any other text area. From here, you can find the message header and then press VO-shift-m to bring up the contextual menu. From it, choose reply to sender

Re: lion mail layout messages marked as read as I pas through them?

2012-03-30 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
HI Teresa, I am afraid I don't get it. What you say would mark all messages read as I open a conversation. This would not solve my problem rather make it worse. When I do this every message or conversation is marked read as I vo through the list. Maybe I was not clear in detailing my problem.

Re: audible files

2012-03-30 Thread May McDonald
I said nothing about changing the file, just the file type. Not everyone has a way to play audible files. And please lets not play the not legally card, lol. But, ugh, I do hate audible at times, smiles. On 2012-03-30, at 4:44 PM, Emrah wrote: Actually, to be fair, he is not changing the

Re: lion mail layout messages marked as read as I pas through them?

2012-03-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Sorry; I wasn't clear. Make sure that checkbox is unchecked. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: HI Teresa, I am afraid I don't get it. What you say would mark all messages read as I open a conversation. This would not solve my

Re: Questions about switching from PC to Mac

2012-03-30 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
HI there, I am going to create some controversy probably with my post. I think the mac has some amazing features like being able to use the trackpad, having easy access to many different languages, using any mac you encounter on equal footing, having a stable system, etc. I will say that

Re: lion mail layout messages marked as read as I pas through them?

2012-03-30 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Thanks this makes more sense, but this does not solve single messages being marked as read. As workaround I turned off completely the content column and just open the messages I want with command o. Still should there be an other method to do this without turning that column off completely I

Re: Questions about switching from PC to Mac

2012-03-30 Thread Scott Howell
THe greatest challenge in my opinion for someone who has used WIndows and a WIndows-based screen reader such as WIndow-EYes or JAWS is the effort in unlearning everything you previously learned. Like it or not and I'm not interested in creating a flamewar here, but reality is how you interact

Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

2012-03-30 Thread Jennifer Perdue
Hi, OK, I have tried to do this several times and still can't figure this out. Here's what I don't understand though. If you use command R it should only reply to the person that you got the message from I thought but that's not the case. When I try to VO left arrow from the message it

cannot sync tones

2012-03-30 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi guys: After restoring my phone using iTunes, I cannot sync ring tones that I've purchased. I have all tones set to sync, but I can no longer copy and paste my tones from the main part of iTunes to the iPhone 4. Help! iPhone 5.1 software, and iTunes 10.6.1. -- You received this message

Re: lion mail layout messages marked as read as I pas through them?

2012-03-30 Thread Jennifer Perdue
Hi, I like to use the VO J command to go from message title to message content. It makes things a lot faster for me. Oh, can someone tell me if my signature is going through? Thanks. On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: Thanks this makes more sense, but this does not solve

Re: Questions about switching from PC to Mac

2012-03-30 Thread Jennifer Perdue
I agree with you totally. It was a challenge when I switched too, but lists like Mac visionaries helped a lot. Thanks for letting me voice my opinion. On Mar 30, 2012, at 8:25 PM, Scott Howell wrote: THe greatest challenge in my opinion for someone who has used WIndows and a

Re: Questions about switching from PC to Mac

2012-03-30 Thread John Panarese
In addition, what I find interesting when I read Windows users write about their Mac experiences is they often seem to forget that learning Windows was not easy. Obviously, years of experience and use does tend to make one forget that all of the little things that one does with Windows

Re: Questions about switching from PC to Mac

2012-03-30 Thread Ricardo Walker
I really can't argue with that. selecting text on the web is quite a chore on the Mac. I think Safari, and lack of accessibility or efficiency of a office suite for power users of such applications is the Macs greatest weakness at this point in comparison to jaws with windows. But progress

Re: Replying to only one person on list with a Mac

2012-03-30 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi, Can't verify this cause am on the iphone now but here are the steps: 1. Interact with message content, not with texxt of message. 2. vo to find headers. 3. interact with headers. 4. in this texxt find the from address and place vo on it. 5. Here you can invoke vo shift m. If you are not on

LastPass on the Mac

2012-03-30 Thread agent086b
Hi all, I asked some time a go if Carbonite was accessible on the Mac with no luck, so thought would try another. Does anybody use LastPass premium on the Mac? It works well on my iPhone. Thanks for any help. Max. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups