Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-16 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi. I think I have done a mistake. I bought dragon dictate 4 for the mac. It looks accessible to me, but I am not able to choose language, i thought it would work with other languages than english. Can anybody help. Best regards Annie. Den 12/03/2014 kl. 22.45 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-12 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi. Can anyone point me to the trial. I would like to buy it mainly because danish is not supported in apples dictate. Best regards Annie. Den 10/03/2014 kl. 22.17 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com: And all this is accessible, right? How does Voiceover handle things like word suggestion

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-10 Thread Brandon Olivares
Yes, you can navigate with it. In fact it has hundreds of commands for each of your applications that allow you to execute various commands. I believe you can even create your own. On Mar 9, 2014, at 11:55 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Yes I did. A question to Dragon users: can

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-10 Thread Alex Hall
And all this is accessible, right? How does Voiceover handle things like word suggestion lists, things that Wiondows screen readers need special scripts to understand? On web pages, can you move around with commands like next heading, or at least tell Dragon to press command option control h?

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-09 Thread Alex Hall
I'd love to know what you did then. I installed a trial of Dragon a few weeks ago, opened it up, and Voiceover hardly even saw that a window was there. I could configure nothing, there were no instructions, nothing. Yes, I enabled it in my security settings. As to screen navigation, I know

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-09 Thread Maurice Mines
That afternoon, now then reading this message again you installed a trial of Dragon. Unfortunately the trial and the full version do not behave the same. For instance I don't know if in the trial if you can make many adjustments. Two in the flow version however once the product

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-09 Thread Alex Hall
Thanks. I'm not even talking about training, though - I cannot dictate anything. I cannot see how to start or pause dictation, access settings, or anything else. My understanding was that the trial is a time-limited version of the full program, so in theory I should have full access to all

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-09 Thread Brandon Olivares
Did you allow access to the accessibility features of your computer? In security settings, select privacy, then Accessibility, and check Dragon Dictate. This fixed it for me. On Mar 9, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Thanks. I'm not even talking about training, though - I

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-09 Thread Alex Hall
Yes I did. A question to Dragon users: can you navigate? In Windows, for instance, you can say press button or move up four or press tab. Can Dragon on the mac do this kind of thing, or is it restricted to dictation only? On Mar 9, 2014, at 10:18 PM, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com

Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-08 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello All, Dragon is launching a new dictate software for Mac. There is an introductory price of US $99.99. My question for the list is: With the ability dictate and navigate the Mac via speech, what would be the avantages in investing in Dragon? One feature that caught my attention was the

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-08 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there I have not used Dragon, but my first reaction to this is that the dictation on the Mac is good enough that I would want a lot of benefit more before I would want to spend $99 for it. I find the one that already comes with Mavericks to be pretty accurate. Do they let you have a trial

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-08 Thread Apple boy
Ditto. Not that I use dictation but $99 is just wow expensive for something that can be done at no additional charge. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 08/03/2014 22:07, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi there I have not used Dragon, but my first reaction to this is

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-08 Thread David Chittenden
Interesting, I believe the ScanSoft speech recognition is the basis for both speech recognition systems. Given that Mac Dictate can now be loaded directly on the Mac for continuous speech recognition, Dragon would most likely only be beneficial if one needed to use more granulated Command and

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-08 Thread Alex Hall
Dragon for Mac v3.x is inaccessible, even the company admits to that. I haven't tested out v4 yet. Still, if it lacks things like voice commands to move around and edit text, or move up and down menus and tables, I don't see the point. For straight dictation, the Mac does well. That said,

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-08 Thread Maurice Mines
Good evening, before we start characterizing software good, or bad. I think we need to stop and try and think of who might be reading this. Most people it is true don't need dictation but some of us were actually have verified written expression disorders and other disabling conditions that

Re: Dragon Dictate VS Mac built-in Dictation and Speech Navigation

2014-03-08 Thread Brandon Olivares
I have Dragon, but it totally freezes my Macbook Air, so I don't use it very often. I would use it more though if it would work better. On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Maurice Mines maurice.mi...@gmail.com wrote: Good evening, before we start characterizing software good, or bad. I think we need