Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-13 Thread Sean Murphy
Hi, How do you permit your braille cursor to navigate the app without moving the keyboard or voice-over cursor, or is the voice-over cursor the Brialle cursor? On 13/11/2013, at 4:41 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Kristeen, This is the sort of thing that I meant

Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-13 Thread Ben van Poppel
There’s no real way of moving an independent Braille cursor, saved for the ability to pan the display. The VO cursor expands the word you’re on (not being able to turn this off is a pity), e.g. when you’re panning through a document in TextEdit or such., and gets highlighted in other contexts,

Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-13 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there Okay, you want to press the space with the bb sign in order to select the previous roter item. Then you press dots 5-6 to select the next roter item. I am busy making a file of general brill display commands. I think they are in the voice over menu anyway, but I have looked there

Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-13 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there again I haven't got on the bus yet, and I was thinking about what I had said last time. I just realized I said wrong. The command I sent to you before was going from different rotor items to and from. Other rotor items. I'm not sure, but I think if you roll that wheel on the focus 40

Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-13 Thread Kristeen Hughes
I do, thanks! Kristeen On Nov 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Okay, you want to press the space with the bb sign in order to select the previous roter item. Then you press dots 5-6 to select the next roter item. I am busy making a file of general

Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-13 Thread Kristeen Hughes
I don't know of a wheel on the Focus 40 Blue. Kristeen On Nov 13, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there again I haven't got on the bus yet, and I was thinking about what I had said last time. I just realized I said wrong. The command I sent to you before was

Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-13 Thread Jonathan Mosen
The older Focus 40 Blues had whiz wheels, but the slimmer, newer version does not. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/11/2013, at 5:55 am, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know of a wheel on the Focus 40

Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-12 Thread Kristeen Hughes
This may have been discussed before, but I have to try again. I would like to use my Focus 40 Blue with my Mac Mini. I would prefer not to have to use another keyboard along with it. Are there any ways to add important keystrokes like switching between open programs and closing a window or

Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-12 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Kristeen, I have a focus 40 Blue and use it constantly with Mavericks. I haven’t tried assigning keystrokes for selecting text, etc. but there’s a good chance it can be done. In the vO utility, you can go to Braille and view the assigned commands for your Braille display and modify or

Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-12 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Okay, I look and I don't see some things that seem to be rather importatn. For example, if you are wanting to switch from one open app to another, how do you do it with the display. Are you using a keyboard along with the display? Kristeen On Nov 12, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Teresa Cochran

Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-12 Thread Teresa Cochran
Admittedly, yes, I’m also using a keyboard. My opinion is that you’ll probably have to do quite a lot of customizing to use a Braille display as a primary keyboard. For switching apps, I’d probably map a braille keystroke to VO-applications list. (VO-f1 twice quickly)I don’t think there’s an

Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-12 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi, Teresa is correct, you have to do a lot of customizing in order to get your focus display to work as your keyboard. Unfortunately, you will have to use your keyboard more than you would like to. That's just the nature of the beast. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 12, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Teresa

Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-12 Thread Eugenia Firth
True duys, but I know I can get to the menu with my braille display. I c' remember how to do it on a Focus 40 although I had one. Can anyone remember what the braille keyboard command is for going to the menu and using left and right arrows. I found that useful when I was somewhat away from my

Menu Command, was Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-12 Thread Teresa Cochran
It’s s-chord (dots 2-3-4-space). I just use the panning keys to display different areas of the menu bar, and then use the cursor-routing keys on the item I want. sometimes this doesn’t work, and I have to use dot 4-chord and dot 1-chord to navigate through the menus HtH, teresa Outside of a

Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-12 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Thanks,. This info does help. Can you tell me how I can sellect text? I've not been successful. Kristeen On Nov 12, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Teresa is correct, you have to do a lot of customizing in order to get your focus display to work as your

Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-12 Thread Ben van Poppel
Hi Kristeen, Teresa and the rest. The workaround I did for single-keystroke app switching was to write two scripts to simulate command-tab and command-shift-tab respectively. Then I assigned running of the scripts to focus commands (I used 12-chord and 45-chord). The scripts had one line each:

Re: Focus display and Mavericks

2013-11-12 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Kristeen, This is the sort of thing that I meant when I mentioned customization. WHAT you’d have to do is go into your Braille settings, go to the display tab, choose “assign commands, and assign a Braille command to select text. There aren’t separate commands for selecting different