Re: Drunk with power. or buying from iTunes store all on my own was Re: iTunes songs for .69 was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-23 Thread Chris Blouch
. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Drunk with power. or buying from iTunes store all on my own was Re: iTunes songs for .69 was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone? Oh dear, LOL when the Beetles do finally come to iTunes, please please sometime soon, that's

Re: iTunes songs for .69 was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-17 Thread Scott Howell
Hey, look for Hank Crawford's From the Heart, which the entire album costs $6.21 and you will see each track is $.69. Now maybe you don't like Jazz, but for me, yeah, I love the stuff and that's a good price. :) On Jul 16, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: wow, You've

Re: iTunes songs for .69 was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-17 Thread Chris Blouch
That's what I noticed. I poked through tons of 80s music and didn't find a single 69c track. CB Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: wow, You've found stuff for 69 cents? Where? What was it? All the stuff I've come upon is 99 or 1.29 the more expensive stuff seems to be whatever was/is

Re: Drunk with power. or buying from iTunes store all on my own was Re: iTunes songs for .69 was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-17 Thread patrickneazer
Hello Jenny and all: I know I am late to the party on commenting on this one ... No, it won't go away or wear off ... LOL ... it will subside for a second and then ... you will be asked to purchase something for someone who is hard to shop for ... then you might be off again ... lol Or,

Re: Drunk with power. or buying from iTunes store all on my own was Re: iTunes songs for .69 was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-17 Thread Jenny Kennedy (Howard)
Oh dear, LOL when the Beetles do finally come to iTunes, please please sometime soon, that's just it. I'm going to make Apple, Inc. really really rich. *smile* I love them and have been very frustrated they are not on iTunes. Really want Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band album, is

Re: Drunk with power. or buying from iTunes store all on my own was Re: iTunes songs for .69 was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-17 Thread patrickneazer
Hello Jenny and all: Glad I struck a friendly nerve (wink). Yep, it never goes away. I must confess that I am not the biggest consumer of movies. Most of the world believes that is because I cannot see ... LOL ... it just is because I do not like many movies. I am even in the minority in the

Re: Drunk with power. or buying from iTunes store all on my own was Re: iTunes songs for .69 was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-17 Thread Barry Lipscomb
We'll I am a HUGE Beatles fan and I don't know when they are coming to iTunes but I do know when the entire remastered catalog is being upgraded on CD. That will be 09/09/09. Apple and Apple could surprise everybody and release it that day. Barry On Jul 17, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Jenny

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2009-07-17 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Kennedy (Howard) Sent: Saturday, 18 July 2009 7:07 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Drunk with power. or buying from iTunes store all on my own was Re: iTunes songs for .69 was Re: NLS digital books and future

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Blouch
...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone? The Daisy standard is hardly a bizarre format and when made correctly the books are playable on existing iPods and other

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Blouch
Ahh, I misunderstood the announcement. I thought it was premium pricing just to get DRM free. So the Plus version is higher bitrate in adition to the DRM free. Good to know and, well, what took them so long smile CB Buddy Brannan wrote: On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread Buddy Brannan
Well, maybe *I* misunderstood. Essentially, my understanding is that it's *all* plus now. On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Ahh, I misunderstood the announcement. I thought it was premium pricing just to get DRM free. So the Plus version is higher bitrate in adition to

Contacting NLS was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread Jenny Kennedy (Howard)
Hi there, I don't know a direct E-mail address but the NLS website should be able to point you in the right direction... The web address is: http://www.loc.gov/nls HTH Best Wishes Jenny Kennedy (Howard) blueskyes9112...@gmail.com Olathe, Kansas USA Join me on FaceBook: Personal Profile -

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread Jenny Kennedy (Howard)
I understand why NLS and RFB and D feel they must incript their books. I get that. But why they couldn't of picked a form like Audible is beyond me. I think a few groups out there, Bookshare and Greg's Beyond Books program shows clearly that you can put your offerings out there in a

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread louie
One thing if you can play a NLS book on a computer you can very easly capture the output and record it in the background. Thus rip the book to mp3. On Jul 16, 2009, at 12:41 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: I understand why NLS and RFB and D feel they must incript their books. I get

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread Barry Hadder
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone? One thing if you can play a NLS book on a computer you can very easly capture the output and record it in the background. Thus rip the book to mp3

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread Scott Howell
. - Original Message - From: Greg Kearney gkear...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone? The Daisy standard is hardly a bizarre format and when made correctly

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread Brent Harding
think Itunes could on their DRM stuff. - Original Message - From: louie louiem...@wavecable.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone? One thing if you can play a NLS book

Re: iTunes songs for .69 was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread Scott Howell
Jenny, most the stuff is older Jazz material. I'd have to dig through my receipts to remember what they are, but if I find something, I'll let you know, just so you can check it out and see I didn't make it up. :) Seriously there is stuff out there, but yeah, it's stuff that isn't

Drunk with power. or buying from iTunes store all on my own was Re: iTunes songs for .69 was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread Jenny Kennedy (Howard)
Hi Scott, LOL That would be cool. *smile* I spend way way way way way too much money at iTunes . Well Not to the point my family has to go without... But a majority of all my fun money goes to iTunes. I don't know I guess I'm drunk with power. I've never been able to browse music or movies

Re: Contacting NLS was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread Tom Frank
In defense of NLS, they must follow strict copyright laws. I have no complaints since they also distribute a free player to every user. And if someone wants a more portable uit, there's also the Stream. I also believe other third party manufacturers will be jumping in the fray once the

RE: Contacting NLS was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread Jane Jordan (Gmail)
: Re: Contacting NLS was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone? In defense of NLS, they must follow strict copyright laws. I have no complaints since they also distribute a free player to every user. And if someone wants a more portable uit, there's also the Stream. I

Re: Contacting NLS was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread Jenny Kennedy (Howard)
Yes, you've got it. I'm not so much complaining about NLS or their service. It is just. Well the streem is nice and all but it is so so darn expensive. I'd get one if it were not so much. I don't really care about any of the other features it has other than you can download DTBs on it

Re: Contacting NLS was Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
Again in defense of NLs. It is a library, Library content is free. Not downloadable at a cost as in that of getting to the items. Not offered for a subscription, but free. The players are to serve the majority of their readership who are older, or children, or whatever, and again be free.

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-15 Thread Chris Blouch
Sounds like security by obscurity. The media folks don't want to hear that the audio version of their book is being distributed via the popular portable and unencumbered mp3 format which can be copied and used on nearly any device. They would rather hear that the file is in the obscure quijibo

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-15 Thread Dan
Hello, Here is a different prospective. If a person belongs to Book Share, for example, this is how it works. You have to be a paying member. When you download zipped book share files, you have to put in your login password to unpack the book. When you read the book, it has your name and

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-15 Thread Brent Harding
Not any more. I heard they now have downloadable daisy, so we can play on the stream. - Original Message - From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:39 PM Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-15 Thread Barry Hadder
Message - From: Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:39 PM Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone? I personally think that the way NLS and RFBD should have gone about the digital

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-15 Thread Scott Howell
One thing that would drive NLS to consider computer-based playback etc. is if consumers of the content put enough pressure. I have not looked at the law in quite a while, but to the best of my knowledge, there is nothing in the law that would prevent them from allowing this. The simple

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-15 Thread Scott Howell
And there ya go. Hit Apple with the idea and beat NLS about the head and shoulders until they start paying attention. THey will quickly find that folks really want to have this option and not be tied to one of their funky players or spend a crap-load of money on specialized hardware, when

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-15 Thread Greg Kearney
The Daisy standard is hardly a bizarre format and when made correctly the books are playable on existing iPods and other such devices. The issue here is not Daisy the issue is that NLS and to a lesser degree RFBD have chosen to add digital rights management aka encryption to their books.

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-15 Thread Brent Harding
The other thing NLS does is using the AMR codec. - Original Message - From: Greg Kearney gkear...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone? The Daisy standard

RE: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-15 Thread Jane Jordan (Gmail)
@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Hadder Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone? Greg: I want to make clear that All of my comments were solely

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-15 Thread Barry Hadder
. - Original Message - From: Greg Kearney gkear...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone? The Daisy standard is hardly a bizarre format and when made correctly

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-15 Thread Greg Kearney
of the format. - Original Message - From: Greg Kearney gkear...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone? The Daisy standard is hardly a bizarre format and when made

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-15 Thread Maurice Mines
@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone? The Daisy standard is hardly a bizarre format and when made correctly the books are playable on existing iPods and other such devices. The issue here is not Daisy

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-14 Thread Chris Polk
that would be really cool to have only one device for all of the books/ music/phone/email, well you get the point. On Jul 14, 2009, at 8:26 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: Hi guys, Well it looks as if the NLS here in the U.S. is going to be rolling out their long awaited digital

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-14 Thread Greg Kearney
A few points about the NLS system. First off it uses a very heavy encryption on the books as well as a some what unusual audio format. At this point in time the NLS has refused to permit the authorization of computer based playback of their books. At the Association for the Blind of

Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, iPhone?

2009-07-14 Thread May and Wynter
Hey, that would be a good idea. Then I could sell my victor stream along with my trekker. May off to Edmonton Alberta on the 25th. Am I ready to see some people there? - Original Message - From: Jenny Kennedy (Howard) blueskyes9112...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: