Re: Hotspots not working properly.

2015-10-29 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Yes, Anne, I did do the clean install. I initially installed over Yosemite but had issues many more issues than now. So I took the plunge, researched it carefully and performed clean install. Hotspots and Safari holding onto VO focus although not every time nor consistently are the major

Re: Hotspots not working properly.

2015-10-28 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Dear Anne, It's all very strange: some people can use hotspots and others don't. My hotspots don't stick at all, nor can I reliably set webspots. I may be able to use them within the same application but they won't work for more than a few times and then they stop. And if I call up hotspots

Re: Hotspots not working properly.

2015-10-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andrew, I can’t remember whether you’ve answered this already, but did you do a clean install of El Capitán? I’m seeing a lot of anomalies where people have simply updated rather than doing a clean install. Apple makes it all too easy to do that which is unfortunate for new Mac users,

Re: Hotspots not working properly.

2015-10-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andrew, I can jump to a hotspot in another application as long as I’m using the basic activity, not one I’ve created myself. So, I can’t jump to a hotspot in Safari from Mail, because I have a special Mail activity with low verbosity and other variations from the norm. However, I can

Re: Hotspots not working properly.

2015-10-27 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Ah, Thanks, John. I will reset Voiceover settings. Just heard from Apple accessibility regarding Safari grabbing Vo focus to itself whilst trying to command+tab to another app, and they are telling me they can't reproduce the problem and that it must be device specific. So please anybody who

Re: Hotspots not working properly.

2015-10-27 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Sometimes I get the impression, there are no hardcore VO users in Apples team. Would be good to have something like a Team Viewer connection to show them all the stuff they cannot duplicate. Would be a lot. ;-) I and my customers experience issues using Hotspots since Leopard. For me it never

Re: Hotspots not working properly.

2015-10-27 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Hmm strange. I have to test this on mhy macbook. /A > On 26 Oct 2015, at 19:00, Anne Robertson wrote: > > I tested Hotspot 2 today and it’s working for me. I usually set Hotspots from > 6 to 0 as they are easier to get to quickly on a laptop keyboard, but I tried > 2

Re: Hotspots not working properly.

2015-10-27 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Where are they stored? I guess i have to delete them. /A > On 26 Oct 2015, at 23:45, John Panarese wrote: > > OK. Try resetting your VoiceOver preferences in the VoiceOver Utility to > factory defaults. If you have customized them, you will have to reset them >

Re: Hotspots not working properly.

2015-10-26 Thread Andrew Lamanche
hello, I've just read Anne's post carefully. I am unfortunately having problems with hotspots. I set a hotspot in one application, and then launch another app in which I wish to do some work. And then wehn I want to return to the application in which I had set a hotspot - I cant do so. In

Re: Hotspots not working properly.

2015-10-26 Thread John Panarese
OK. Try resetting your VoiceOver preferences in the VoiceOver Utility to factory defaults. If you have customized them, you will have to reset them manually, but I’ve discovered that doing this has really made a difference to curing a lot of the little VO problems I was initially having.

Re: Hotspots not working properly.

2015-10-26 Thread Anne Robertson
I tested Hotspot 2 today and it’s working for me. I usually set Hotspots from 6 to 0 as they are easier to get to quickly on a laptop keyboard, but I tried 2 with no problems. I could jump to it, monitor with it and consult it. I’m using a MacBook air from 2012 and did a clean install of El

Re: Hotspots not working properly.

2015-10-26 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Report and report this to apple. Hopefully we will get this fixed. /A > On 25 Oct 2015, at 22:41, gs wrote: > > Well, I have had these kinds of issues ever since I started using the Mac a > couple of years ago. I was all excited about how it would be really great and

Re: Hotspots not working properly.

2015-10-25 Thread gs
Well, I have had these kinds of issues ever since I started using the Mac a couple of years ago. I was all excited about how it would be really great and then when it didn't work I thought it might be something I was just doing incorrectly or not understanding. At this point I have given up

Re: Hotspots not working properly.

2015-10-25 Thread Andrew Lamanche
I can confirm this and I've written to the list about this before. Hotspots just don't stick at all. I had reported it in the beta testing and I've reported it since upgrading to El Capitan. Please keep on reporting it to Apple Accessibility. It's not just on hotspot 22, it's any hotspot I