Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Scott Granados
Ah, you’re in good hands then, I’m sure that’s not the problem if you and he set it up from a clean install. Rule that one out then. Thanks > On Oct 31, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > I did a clean install of the latest operating system with help from >

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I did a clean install of the latest operating system with help from Sabahattin. He normally guides me through the cleaning of the drive and then I install the Operating system myself once the OS installer is on my rugged USB stick which I acquired from Apple a few years ago. I don't know how

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
The usual command to open mail, VO space. Once that happens the website crashes. > On 31 Oct 2016, at 20:13, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hmmm. That's interesting indeed. Safari worked fine for me, just had to use > the Item Chooser, lots of interacting and stopping interaction

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Scott Granados
I have seen this happen with sites and safari when a clean install of the os is required. Not sure if it’s a library problem or what the route cause is but this is how I resolved the page crash issue. I’ve also seen this in webkit which is basically beta versions of safari or rather the

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Danny Noonan
I'm currently stuck on iOS and for a lark spent some time trying to see what I could do. Some basic stuff like find my iPhone but no sign of anything male related. I did get better results in Crome on desktop page but still no joy trying to set rules. Sigh. Danny Sent from my iPhone > On

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, A few years back, I was told that iCloud was a separate entity from Apple and that's why it wasn't as accessible as the rest of their ecosystem. Not sure whether that is still the case. Additionally, in my opinion, that's a poor excuse anyway, as Apple is using iCloud for just about

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Blee Blat
I have not got the site to work at all here. I tried 3 times and Safari crashed all 3 times. I didn't even get the timezone selected. It just crashed after I signed in and tried to click the button that said to change the timezone. Clicking the button labelled "setup instructions" also

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Tim I had the site quit on me twice as well third time I got it to work so definitely only a site worth trying to go to if you want to work with rules and something that is long over due for an improvement by Apple. > On Oct 31, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Brian Hansen

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Brian Hansen
I’m having the same issue on my end, and it doesn’t seem to be with just mail. When looking up stuff in the Apple support web section, I’ve found that at times, it's doing the same thing. Blessings, Brian > On Oct 31, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > Each

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hmmm. That's interesting indeed. Safari worked fine for me, just had to use the Item Chooser, lots of interacting and stopping interaction etc. Are you using VO-space to attempt to open Mail, or some other method? Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 31, 2016, at 14:05,

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Each time I tried to access mail, the site would close and I'd have to report that to Apple as diagnostic problem. > On 31 Oct 2016, at 18:17, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > After hearing all the chatter here about iCloud, I decided to take a boo > around the site. Overall,

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Brian Fischler
Yes, lets get this back on topic. More on what Tim had to a solution as I called Apple Accessibility and created a screen share and we got everything working, and yeah it is weird and VO lost focus several times but we got it done. The key if you need to use iCloud.com to manage or create a

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, After hearing all the chatter here about iCloud, I decided to take a boo around the site. Overall, it's not a particularly friendly site for us, but it is actually usable. I was able to login, access Settings, Mail, rules and most things that folks were concerned about. A couple of

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Would that be something for the accessibility team to take care about? Just asking? /A > On 30 Oct 2016, at 18:58, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Yes it is awful. How can a company that talks such a big game about > accessibility have such a poorly designed main site. There

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
m > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Ray Foret jr > Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 9:47 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible >

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread E.T.
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 10:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible Oh wow, so it actually really is? out there? H

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Scott Granados
hing on the world, mind you I'm >>>> guessing there is a P A to catch the crazies like us trying to get in >>>> touch with him. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mai

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Ray Foret jr
to get in touch >>> with him. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@g

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Scott Granados
ilto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark >> Gilland >> Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 10:11 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inacces

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Scott Granados
Monday, 31 October 2016 9:47 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible > > tc...@apple.com <mailto:tc...@apple.com> > > > Sent from my Mac, The Only com

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-31 Thread Ray Foret jr
nt: Monday, 31 October 2016 10:11 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible > > Oh wow, so it actually really is? out there? > > Hmm, let's see if we can find his personal iPhone number. > > Hey, we have his e-mail, we coul

RE: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Gilland Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 10:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible Oh wow, so it actually really is? out there? Hmm, let's see if we can find his personal iPhone number. Hey, we have his e-mail, we could at least

RE: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret jr Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 9:47 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible tc...@apple.com<mailto:tc...@apple.com> Sent from

RE: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
iCloud website now completely inaccessible Yes it is awful. How can a company that talks such a big game about accessibility have such a poorly designed main site. There is now no way whats so ever to use universal mail rules. Or edit any of your existing mail rules. Just awful. > On Oct

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
. - Original Message - From: Ray Foret jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible tc...@apple.com Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" <challswor...@icloud.com> To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
ries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible I wrote to Tim Cook once and got a reply from Accessibility as he didn't answer! I found his e-mail using Google. Kawal. On 30 Oct 2016,

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Message - From: Dan To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible hello, So pray tell, how do you do that. What's Mr. Cook's real email address. Dan On Oct 30, 2016, at 10:59 AM

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
, 2016 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible Hi time we wrote Tim cook himself and let him know. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Kliphton Miller
I have no issues with creating rules and changing settings. What I do is, go in too the mail app, system prefs, and go to edit alias's it drops me directly into the selection area Kliph Sent from my mobile office On Oct 30, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: No

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Ray Foret jr
tc...@apple.com Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! > On Oct 30, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Dan

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Brian Fischler
No unfortunately I believe you still need to create mail rules on the dumb iCloud site if you want the rule to sync across all devices. I have emailed Apple Accessibility but doubt I will hear back. This is a long running issue with the iCloud site that has gone even further backwards. So much

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Scott Granados
Oddly enough it seems a little better under windows which is humorous in a sad way. I thought if you created rules under apple mail they propagated via the cloud on the back end. > On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:43 PM, christopher hallsworth > wrote: > > Oh wow, so it's not

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread christopher hallsworth
Oh wow, so it's not me then. Yes, how awful, because what if I want to create or edit rules? Now I can't. Please let's all email Apple Accessibility and/or Mr Cook. > On 30 Oct 2016, at 17:58, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Yes it is awful. How can a company that talks such

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I wrote to Tim Cook once and got a reply from Accessibility as he didn't answer! I found his e-mail using Google. Kawal. > On 30 Oct 2016, at 17:59, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > Hi time we wrote Tim cook himself and let him know. > Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Dan
hello, So pray tell, how do you do that. What's Mr. Cook's real email address. Dan > On Oct 30, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > Hi time we wrote Tim cook himself and let him know. > Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Ray Foret jr
Hi time we wrote Tim cook himself and let him know. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! > On Oct 30,

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Brian Fischler
Yes it is awful. How can a company that talks such a big game about accessibility have such a poorly designed main site. There is now no way whats so ever to use universal mail rules. Or edit any of your existing mail rules. Just awful. > On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I've never been impressed with iCloud.com Alas, I can reproduce everything you're saying. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" To:

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Oh I see what you mean. It's awful. How do you get to the mail now as I couldn't even find that there. I wish they would not keep changing things for the hell of doing that as that site was best left how it was. Kawal. > On 30 Oct 2016, at 14:50, Brian Fischler wrote: