Re: Replying to mails in the Apple mail program in Mavericks and onwards?

2014-07-30 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Then the question is if mutt is supported with voiceover. If not one could use brltty if one has a braille display. /A 26 jul 2014 kl. 10:57 skrev Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com: The Mutt Unix command line mail client seems to support private replies pretty well. Even when the list

Re: Replying to mails in the Apple mail program in Mavericks and onwards?

2014-07-26 Thread Steve Holmes
The Mutt Unix command line mail client seems to support private replies pretty well. Even when the list forces the normal reply function to go to the list, Mutt offers you the choice of sending to original sender or to the list. On the opposite side of the coin, Some lists make it nearly

Re: Replying to mails in the Apple mail program in Mavericks and onwards?

2014-07-26 Thread Jason White
Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote: The Mutt Unix command line mail client seems to support private replies pretty well. Even when the list forces the normal reply function to go to the list, Mutt offers you the choice of sending to original sender or to the list. And if you have

Re: Replying to mails in the Apple mail program in Mavericks and onwards?

2014-07-26 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Alpine also does this; I just tried and it prompts you whether or not you'd like to reply using the reply address. The problem is that using a textmode client makes it rather hard to be efficient with speech only under OS X. It works reasonably well, but not well enough to replace a native

Replying to mails in the Apple mail program in Mavericks and onwards?

2014-07-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi there, This topic has probably been covered before, but at that time i didn’t look closely so therefor i ask again: In Mavericks in standard view i’m trying to reply to the sender of a mail and not to the entire mailinglist but i can’t find a way to just reply to the sender. Has this feature

Re: Replying to mails in the Apple mail program in Mavericks and onwards?

2014-07-24 Thread isaac . hebert
If you are using the mail app for mavericks then use command r to reply to sender and command shift r to r to do a reply all. On Jul 24, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi there, This topic has probably been covered before, but at that time i didn't look

Re: Replying to mails in the Apple mail program in Mavericks and onwards?

2014-07-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, Thing is though, that cmd+R replies to the list rather than replying to the one who sent the mail to the list, if that makes sense. /Krister 24 jul 2014 kl. 14:57 skrev isaac.heb...@gmail.com: If you are using the mail app for mavericks then use command r to reply to sender and command

Re: Replying to mails in the Apple mail program in Mavericks and onwards?

2014-07-24 Thread The Believer
Could be the email list or group has adopted a new poilcy where such lists or groups and providers as well now put the email list or group address in the From field. This creates problems such as yours. This policy is from DMARC and Yahoo was anong the first to adopt this poilicy.

Re: Replying to mails in the Apple mail program in Mavericks and onwards?

2014-07-24 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
No, this isn't DMARC; Google Groups only mangles the From field when it needs to do so for DMARC purposes. The problem lies with the regrettable (but very common) practice of lists munging the Reply-To field so that the list address is listed, thus directing replies back to the list. Mail.app

Re: Replying to mails in the Apple mail program in Mavericks and onwards?

2014-07-24 Thread The Believer
Perhaps so but most email lists are set to Reply to Sender which is the list the email came from. And prior to DMARC, it was nearly always possible simply to retrieve the real sender''s address out of the From field. I do think this DMARC thing has mangled the Reply To field.

Re: Replying to mails in the Apple mail program in Mavericks and onwards?

2014-07-24 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Google only replaces the From when necessary for DMARC. If a Yahoo user were to post to this list, you would see the message as coming from them via the list (it would say so in the sender's name) and the address in the From field would be that of the group. I don't know for certain whether

Re: Replying to mails in the Apple mail program in Mavericks and onwards?

2014-07-24 Thread The Believer
The implementation of the DMARC policy change is not consistent, which makes being subscribers of the various email lists not so fun any more. I am not yet using the mail app but am hopeful by the time I start using it, it will be working right. In the meantime, since the bad guys

Re: Replying to mails in the Apple mail program in Mavericks and onwards?

2014-07-24 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
I agree; it's even less fun for list admins and postmasters who now have to patch stuff up for no conceivable reason just to keep the messages flowing, trust me. The world would be a better place without either Yahoo or AOL, and if we could just stop them from posting, our problems would be