Re: Safari 4beta and ARIA

2009-04-13 Thread Ben King
Dear EJ, I hope things are going well with you. I looked at the site and I had no problems navagating it. Voiceover worked very well with the site. I hope this helps. Blessings, Ben King On Apr 13, 2009, at 8:29 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: > > Good morning, > > Just briefly tested http://searc

Re: Safari 4beta and ARIA

2009-04-13 Thread Scott Howell
Everett, I gave it a short test as well and it seems to work very well. On Apr 13, 2009, at 11:29 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: > > Good morning, > > Just briefly tested http://search.yahoo.com/ with Safari 4 beta's ARIA > support. I didn't spend much time on the site, but the search > suggestions were

Re: Safari 4beta and ARIA

2009-04-13 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, But if it is introduced in SL, Leopard users won't get it. What I prepose is that the FF team use my hack for Leopard and possibly native support in SL. Thanks, Alex, On 13-Apr-09, at 10:37 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: > Good afternoon, > > Nice to know that there is a way to cause an applic

Re: Safari 4beta and ARIA

2009-04-13 Thread E.J. Zufelt
Good afternoon, Nice to know that there is a way to cause an application to speak. But, as far as accessibility goes, it is, as Alex mentioned, a hack. It would be nice if there was a way to notify UA that an application has an updated region that requires announcement / monitoring. Thank

Re: Safari 4beta and ARIA

2009-04-13 Thread Chris Blouch
I suspect they are using the mac speech synthesis manager method called SpeakString http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/Speech_Synthesis_Manager/Reference/reference.html#//apple_ref/c/func/SpeakString I can try to find out if you really want to know. BTW, I heard there are

Re: Safari 4beta and ARIA

2009-04-13 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, Using the System Voice. Thanks, Alex, On 13-Apr-09, at 9:28 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > Does this hack involve the API or something similar, or using the > system voice? > > Thanks, > Everett > > Follow me on Twitter > http://twitter.com/ezufelt > > View my LinkedIn Pro

Re: Safari 4beta and ARIA

2009-04-13 Thread Victor Tsaran
Hello all, The actual support for ARIA in Yahoo! Search at www.ysearch.com is on the search results page. However, as Chris already pointed out, Safari4 does nto support live regions so you will not be able to fully enjoy the sweetness of web 2.0 interaction. You can still enjoy shortcut keys that

Re: Safari 4beta and ARIA

2009-04-13 Thread E.J. Zufelt
Good afternoon, Does this hack involve the API or something similar, or using the system voice? Thanks, Everett Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 13-Apr-09, at 1:05 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > There

Re: Safari 4beta and ARIA

2009-04-13 Thread E.J. Zufelt
Good afternoon, I wonder if AIM is doing this through the API, or through the system Say command. Everett Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 13-Apr-09, at 1:04 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > Hmm. The AOL AIM client

Re: Safari 4beta and ARIA

2009-04-13 Thread Chris Blouch
Hmm. The AOL AIM client speaks incoming text if you turn that option on in preferences so I would suspect any application can do it. The only limitation of the VO APIs I know of is that you can't detect if VO is on or not which is probably a nod to Apple's Universal Design philosophy. CB E.J.

Re: Safari 4beta and ARIA

2009-04-13 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, There is a hack to alert the OS that something needs to be spoken. It is this loophole that the VIP-Toolkit makes use of. Thanks, Alex, On 13-Apr-09, at 8:58 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > I believe, from what I have read about Firefox accessibility > challenges, that im

Re: Safari 4beta and ARIA

2009-04-13 Thread E.J. Zufelt
Good afternoon, I believe, from what I have read about Firefox accessibility challenges, that implementing aria live region support in any browser will require changes to be made to the Apple accessibility API. There is currently no way for applications to "alert" the OS that something n

Re: Safari 4beta and ARIA

2009-04-13 Thread Chris Blouch
The main thing I'm looking for in an ARIA enabled browser is support for live regions. This is where a spot on the page is set up such that any changes to that spot are automatically announced. This is a great way to implement web-based chat, stock tickers and other real-time data feeds. Unfor

Safari 4beta and ARIA

2009-04-13 Thread E.J. Zufelt
Good morning, Just briefly tested http://search.yahoo.com/ with Safari 4 beta's ARIA support. I didn't spend much time on the site, but the search suggestions were accessible. 1. Go to the site 2. Navigate to the search field 3. Type in part of a search query 4. Use VO + Up and Down arro