Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-26 Thread Steve Holmes
When it comes to automatic interaction with HTML content, it has always worked even up through the update to 10.8.2 on my Mac mini. Unfortunately this morning was the first time I started having some issues with this working properly. I recall recycling VO off and back on and then it has been

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-22 Thread Jürgen Fleger
I meant pressing Spacebar on an audio file. It doesn't work properly since Mountain Lion. I tried it with several files on two machines in 10.8.1. Apple already confirmed that there is such an issue and prommissed to forward it to the appropriate people. Jürgen Am 21.09.2012 um 23:16 schrieb

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-22 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I don't have any such problem. On 22 Sep 2012, at 07:55, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: I meant pressing Spacebar on an audio file. It doesn't work properly since Mountain Lion. I tried it with several files on two machines in 10.8.1. Apple already confirmed that there is such

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-22 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
Me neither. Maybe they fixed it! :) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: I don't have any such problem. On 22 Sep 2012, at 07:55, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote: I meant pressing Spacebar on an audio file. It doesn't work

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-22 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Thinking about it, when have you ever pressed space bar to start a audio file playing? It's enter, and then space bar to pause. Am I right or not? Kawal. On 22 Sep 2012, at 08:17, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote: Me neither. Maybe they fixed it! :) Sent from my iPhone On Sep

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-22 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Pressing Spacebar opens Quicklook and plays the file there. Quite usefull and in former times nice to use. Pressing Enter leads to rename the file. Am 22.09.2012 um 09:42 schrieb Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com: Thinking about it, when have you ever pressed space bar to start a audio file

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-21 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, just to point out, the fix might not be coming in a Voiceover but, maybe a Safari update in the future. Just a guess of course. In the mean time, I just press VO command L which lands me on the first link of the page. You can use any other navigation command you would use in Safari,

RE: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-21 Thread Missy Hoppe
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8 The thing that disappoints me is that VoiceOver still doesn't automatically interact with html content when loading a web page like it did in Lion. It just doesn't feel as nice and seamless as it used to feel. I'll keep

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-21 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi Brian and all, unfortunately I gathered a long list of bugs in VoiceOver since Lion. What makes me frustrated is not only the fact that it takes Apple most of the time a whole step to a new Mac OS animal to improve VoiceOver. But for some improvements you even get a worsening back. For

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-21 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Wait let's be clear about one thing. When you say that fast forward and rewind don't work correctly in quick look, are you talking about that when you stream a file directly off an internet site, you can't interact with the timeline and move through it? If that's what you mean, you're

When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-20 Thread Brian Fischler
I know that we are not Apple's main focus group, but two updates to 10.8 and still not one improvement to Voiceover? There are some pretty basic fixable things, that I am very disappointed that Apple has not addressed in either update. And before I get blasted for posting anything negative on this

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-20 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Perhaps, then, you might wish to become a developer? Your message seems to imply that this just might be the best path for you. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Brian Fischler

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-20 Thread Alex Hall
I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic, but I'll continue assuming you are not. Developers can write apps, but not touch built-in aspects of the os. Being a developer, then, would not let you change anything in VO at all, unless you are working for Apple and have access to the code driving vo.

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-20 Thread Brian Fischler
Typical of this list, some guy like this Ray offering a useless response to my constructive criticism. Anytime you say anything negative even like I did in a professional way, you get a guy like this Ray not adding to the conversation. I don't think I am out of line expecting improvements to

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-20 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Brian, now look, I do understand your frustrations; but, frankly, your personal attack upon me is entirely unwarranted. I was truly only trying to help. Perhaps you're just having a sucky day; I don't know. We're all subject to those days now and again; but, if you are going to bite a hand

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-20 Thread Phil Halton
It came off pretty darn sarcastic to my ears as well Ray. - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:56 PM Subject: Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8 Brian, now look, I do

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-20 Thread Veronica Elsea
@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:56 PM *Subject:* Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8 Brian, now look, I do understand your frustrations; but, frankly, your personal attack upon me is entirely

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-20 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Veronica, I know exactly what you are talking about, and that non interaction with html happens to me a lot here is a quick fix for you. Toggle VO off and than back on with Command F5 when this happens it should fix the html non interaction problem. Yet another bug in Mountain Lion. Hope this

Re: When might we expect a Voiceover Improvement in 10.8

2012-09-20 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
I'm a fairly new Mac user! Did we not have thus issue with lion? Thanks Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Veronica, I know exactly what you are talking about, and that non interaction with html happens to me a lot here is a