Hi Anne,
Well if I knew French, I'd have to get those training manuals from you. :)
However, I have enough trouble with my native English. :) Well I hope to find
some time to study the entire iWOrks suite, but for now off to install a new
water heater since the other one caught fire. :)
Scott
Hi,
I'm working on Kevin's Numbers assignment now but I have to stop for the day.
I will continue with things tomorrow and post my suggestions. I'm not a
Numbers expert either but know a little more than the basics. Let's hope it's
helpful.
Later...
On 2011-02-05, at 1:36 PM, Anne Robertso
Hi Anne:
What you've said here is very well thought and very well put. I've been at
this over a year, and still feel half the time like I'm learning on the fly.
There are some systems being developed in the US for training with Voiceover.
But, they're not easy to find when you're just learnin
Hello Scott,
I have the luxury of being married to a Mac expert and when we both have time
at the same time, we put together user guides for VoiceOver users.
Unfortunately for this list, they are usually in French, since the people we
teach are themselves French.
I've got Kevin more or less so
I do all of my formating in text edit and all of my html writing in test edit.
In fact I have never used a word processer to write a web page. I find it is a
lot easer to write in a html editor like text edit.
S
On Feb 5, 2011, at 2:21 AM, f10r14n wrote:
> Hello Anne and others,
>
> Let me fir
Hi Anne,
I think you have hit the nail on the head. THe problem for most people who are
using windows and windows screen readers is they have received some form of
training. I for example since switching to Microsoft Office 2007 have struggled
to accomplish a lot of formatting tasks. My employe
Hello Anne and others,
Let me first say that if Kevin's issues are resolved no longer seems
the general subject of this thread. This is why I jumped in in the
first place.
Let me first disagree with you on one point Anne. Formatting documents
may not be necessary for quick 'n dirty edocument writi
Hello Florian,
On 4 Feb 2011, at 23:51, f10r14n wrote:
>
>
> As a matter of fact, I agree with both sides on some account. Before
> you shoot me for it let me explain.
> First, Kevin's side. He has been trying to transition to the mac, for
> example for his school needs I think. For this, he has
Hello y' all,
As a matter of fact, I agree with both sides on some account. Before
you shoot me for it let me explain.
First, Kevin's side. He has been trying to transition to the mac, for
example for his school needs I think. For this, he has tried and
failed to do the tasks he could do on Window
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- Original Message -
From: "Mike Arrigo"
To:
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short
If you haven't already
Hi Kevin,
Conveniently? I take exception to that adverb. I've been out of town for a
few days, rather crazy at work and decided I'd still write my comments even
though it was just before midnight. I had noticed that Anne had, for the most
part, responded to much of your podcast and therefore
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>
> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
> - Original Message - From: "Tim Kilburn"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:04 AM
> Subject: Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Fal
Hi TIm,
We understand view on podcast re: tone etc. Please stay on subject. After
going through hoops, resetting VOIceOver several times, doing secret
handshake, stop VoiceOVer from saying word, "cell". THanks for that suggestion.
Why did you conveniently choose to ignore the rest of the i
Hi Kevin:
I think it's a matter of taking the time to learn it before you rag on it
that's at issue here. I'm still having issues with coming over to the Mac from
Windows, and I've been at it for over a year. Still, it's not up to someone
else to find and overcome my stumbling blocks. Nor is
Thanks TIm for stepping forward and providing such good feedback. I've set
VoiceOver verbosity to low and modified speaking of table info to just content,
where it still says word, "cell". Please, if you can, assist me in getting up
to speed with iWork and VoiceOver.
Sent from my iPhone
On Fe
It's been great having all the feedback regarding latest Voiceover On episode
6.
Yes, I'll admit that I've been using Windows and JAWS for a while, more
comfortable with it etc. I've been using Mac OS X and VoiceOver since August
2010. I'm trying to transition from Windows, Office and JAWS
It's his friend who sounds totally like an FS repp.
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:05 PM
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Subject: Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short
Hi Kevin,
I spent some time listening to your suggested podcast and am a little
annoyed with your approach an
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> - Original Message ----- From: "Tim Kilburn"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:04 AM
> Subject: Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short
>
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> I spent some time listening to your suggested podcast and am a little
over is broaken"
Regards,
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- Original Message -
From: "Tim Kilburn"
To:
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:04 AM
Subje
Hi Kevin,
I spent some time listening to your suggested podcast and am a little annoyed
with your approach and attitude presented within it. While your comments below
suggest a welcomeness to constructive comments and/or workarounds, your tone
within the podcast itself is very critical of VO.
Hello yall,
I had heard some time back that the new version was going to be out
any day. That was at least three months ago. I know that apple is really
tight lipped but is there any new info on a release date.
Scott
On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:54 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Hello Kevin
What a weir comment in my opinion.
I think his point was pretty obvious. He ran into some things that lessoned
the experience of iWorks. He then posted to bring attention to what he found
to illuminate these things and possibly confirm them or find solutions to them.
He was also just stating
Please have a listen to latest, episode 6 of VOiceOVer On podcast, where APple
iWork and Microsoft Office screen reader accessibility are compared.
http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com
If any are aware of work-arounds, -, solutions or any feedback , specifically
on content; please provide it with
You know, I'm not exactly the biggest apple fan on here, but if those
are all the bugs that are present in iWork, I have to say thats pretty
impressive. I can't right now, but I'm sure that if I had time, I
could come up with many more bugs that one could find using a windows
screenreader and offic
And your point is?
I assume you've contacted the Apple accessibility people about this?
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
Skype Name:
barefootedray
On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Kevin Chao wrote:
> Below are various aspects of iWork, whe
Hello Kevin,
On 31 Jan 2011, at 21:02, Kevin Chao wrote:
> Below are various aspects of iWork, when it comes to content
> browsing/viewing, where VoiceOver falls short.
>
> Pages
> * VoiceOver find doesn't ' always work, which requires arrowing around
I haven't experienced this. Did you use th
Below are various aspects of iWork, when it comes to content browsing/viewing,
where VoiceOver falls short.
Pages
* VoiceOver find doesn't ' always work, which requires arrowing around
document and repeating find.
* Going from end of page to next page, a sound indicates page turn;
VoiceOver is s
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