If I recall correctly, Windows sort of stumbled into accessibility as
far as keyboard controls because early Windows machines didn't have a
mouse. So they had to work pretty hard at making sure every menu and
widget was usable from the keyboard, at least until the user got tired
of it and went
go
that way.
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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Plummer
Sent: Saturday, 12 December 2009 9:22 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: questions about NVDA
This is true you will need some vision
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 3:50 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: questions about NVDA
Yeh It's the mbp 2.53 ghz processor model
,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 3:50 AM
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Subject: RE: questions about NVDA
Yeh It's
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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 5:13 PM
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Subject: Re: questions about NVDA
And I, as I am completely sure are others
: Saturday, December 12, 2009 5:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questions about NVDA
And I, as I am completely sure are others, getting absolutely sick and tired
of FS wasting ours and government dollars with a product that is overpriced
so they can engage
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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 8:29 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: questions about NVDA
Hello Christina,
I have both Windows and a MacBook Pro computer. In addition to using Jaws
in Windows 7, I am
] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 4:15 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: questions about NVDA
Great, thanks for telling me that now. I was hoping to install boot camp on
my new mbp 13inch when it arrives in about a week.
So would I be better then using
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On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:49 PM, James Nash wrote:
Yes, but the problem with SA2GO is that you need an internet conection to
get it to work and I am not sure if it will run on a limited account or in
a
public place.
Satogo works on any computer
] On Behalf Of Matt Roberts
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:49 PM, James Nash wrote:
Yes, but the problem with SA2GO is that you need an internet conection
to get it to work and I am not sure
I mostly agree with Eric here but attribute the variations in web
information/screen reader combination to a lack of acceptance on the part of
web developers, browser authors and, to a big extent, screen access vendors.
It is true that Apple is setting its own accessibility standards but, for
.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: questions about NVDA
Hello Christina,
I have both Windows and a MacBook Pro computer. In addition to using Jaws
in Windows 7, I am a longtime user of Zoomtext which I am also using in
Windows 7 on my Windows based computers.
You are correct
: questions about NVDA
If you're planning to use Bootcamp, you'll probably need a sighted person
around to read the Windows install.
On Dec 11, 2009, at 4:15 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Great, thanks for telling me that now. I was hoping to install boot
camp on my new mbp 13inch when it arrives in about
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Subject: Re: questions about NVDA
If you're planning to use Bootcamp, you'll probably need a sighted person
around to read the Windows install.
On Dec 11, 2009, at 4:15 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Great, thanks for telling me that now. I was hoping to install boot
camp on my new mbp 13inch
: Friday, December 11, 2009 5:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questions about NVDA
I don't think it is fair to compare Voiceover to Orca or NVDA.
Voiceover is a proprietary product, the other two are not. Orca runs on
Linux, on which none of the MS products are available. NVDA runs
:23 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questions about NVDA
NVDA is basically a free screen reader for the Windows platform. It works
with programs such as Internet Explorer, Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel and
somewhat with Outlook. In case you don't know, Microsoft Excel
: questions about NVDA
NVDA is a usable program that, unfortunately, doesn't support very many
applications yet. If you can program in Python, you can help the team move
it forward. As a full time solution, though, it isn't ready for prime time
yet.
I know both Mick and Jamie, the top of the NVDA
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: questions about NVDA
NVDA is a usable program that, unfortunately, doesn't support very many
applications yet. If you can program in Python, you can help the team move
it forward
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From: Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: questions about NVDA
I guess I was referring to NVDA's relatively minimal support for the MS
Office applications which are usually required for a job
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From: Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: questions about NVDA
NVDA is a usable program that, unfortunately, doesn't support very many
applications yet. If you can program
You are quite right and I agree with you everything you've said.
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From: erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: questions about NVDA
Speaking as an access technology trainer I
: Re: questions about NVDA
I guess I was referring to NVDA's relatively minimal support for the MS
Office applications which are usually required for a job using a PC in the
US. NVDA has the parts under their hood to equal or even surpass the
support for MS Office in JAWS or Window-Eyes
be a
non starter.
TC
James
TC
James
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From: Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: questions about NVDA
NVDA is a usable program that, unfortunately, doesn't support very
I can't whole hartedly agree with you on this one. Given the level of
functionality built in to voice over, it would be rediculous to expect
developers to try to compete.
On top of that, there are other factors in accessibility besides a screen
reader. There is your own level of proficiency
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From: Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: questions about NVDA
I agree but I think SA, the no cost online and the low cost free standing
versions, have an edge over NVDA primarily because
On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:49 PM, James Nash wrote:
Yes, but the problem with SA2GO is that you need an internet conection to
get it to work and I am not sure if it will run on a limited account or in a
public place.
Satogo works on any computer with an internet connection. I use it all the
Hello all,
I saw a discussion earlier and the subject line was something like
back on a mac. Well someone mentioned NVDA on windows seven. I have
not installed windows on my macbook. However I've considered it
simply because I'd like to try using zoomtext to try to look at photos
as I
NVDA is basically a free screen reader for the Windows platform. It works with
programs such as Internet Explorer, Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel and
somewhat with Outlook. In case you don't know, Microsoft Excel is an
application for doing spreadsheets and Outlook is the email program that
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christina
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: questions about NVDA
Hello all,
I saw a discussion earlier and the subject line was something like
back on a mac
thoughts.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:23 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questions about NVDA
NVDA is basically a free screen reader
Hello,
NVDA is a free open source screen reader. It is a competater of jaws or
window-eyes. It offers braille support, dll and sapi software synthesizer
support, msaa support, scripting capability, and very good to excellent support
for open source aplications like firefox, thunderbird, and
Hi:
Though I like Voiceover and the OSX format, I do wish there was a secondary
program like NVDa as it can read some web pages that neither JAWS nor Voiceover
can. One in particular is a lot of the link labels at www.eddietrunk.com.
On Dec 9, 2009, at 4:38 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Hello,
Would you please turn off your receipt function? It is quite annoying.
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From: Joe Plummer joeplum...@tds.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:33 PM
Subject: RE: questions about NVDA
Hi, might want to use satogo on the Windows
You say that NVDA works with Open Office. How well does it work? For some
reason, I thought it wasn't going to be usable until Sun switched over to
Iaccessible 2.
On Dec 9, 2009, at 7:38 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Hello,
NVDA is a free open source screen reader. It is a competater of jaws
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