Well I'm a new MBP owner with lots to learn! Using the mail program in Lion..
Can someone please send me a short list of VO commands for making it easier to
navigate in mail to open, close single and threaded messages, or moving
messages to mailboxes for saving and future reference?
Thank
Hello John and Welcome Aboard:
My name is Mark.
Here are two resources that will help answer your questions about Mail:
1.
I just published a 9 minute podcast on how I use the Mail client in Lion.
http://candleshoreblog.com/mark/podcasts/ep98-MarkOnLionMail.mp3 Click
Here to
So I came home today and thought I do some things on my MacBook Pro,
such as checking email and browse the internet.
The Mac booted up, I logged in, everything works fine except my volume
controls, F11 and F12 don't work. I checked everything and confirmed
that everything on my keyboard works.
I believe, if your mouse cursor is not set to follow the VoiceOver cursor, that
you will need to bring it over before using the drag and drop feature.
So use VO-Command-F5 to bring the mouse pointer to the VoiceOver cursor. Then
use VO-Comma to mark the item to drag.
Go to the Favorites bar, and
Hi
I am trying to decide which Mac Book Air to buy. I would love to hear the
experiences of those of you who use the zoom feature with VO. I have been
trying the air out at our local Apple store and am trying to decide between
the 11 inch and the 13 inch models.
Firstly, do you all think
I am still struggling with this issue. I have found options for
disabling auto login in the Accounts applet of system preferences but
all items appear to be dimmed. There is a radio button for auto log in
as well as check boxes for use voice over and show password hints. All
of which are dimmed as
Mark, thanks I found it under accounts but everything appears to be
dimmed. Any thoughts anyone?
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To:
Thanks, I can hear those controls but all say dimmed? Is there something
I have to do to enable them?
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Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 1:17 PM
To:
You have to take the padlock into account. In all the preference
windows, towards the bottom of the screen, there's a checkbox that
says Click here to prevent future changes or something. Play with
this and tell us how it goes!
2011/7/28, Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com:
Thanks, I
So do I. I believe columns is the best way to go for voiceover. Its less
chatty than list mode. I often don't need to know the date and time the file
or folder was created. And just press left and right arrow to open or close
folders seems simpler to me.
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Hi,
You can find a bunch of getting started information at icanworkthisthing.com
hth
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org
On Jul 28, 2011, at 1:39 AM, jim rawls wrote:
Thanks Christopher. We'll probably take it. Jim
From: Christopher Peppel
Hi,
first, I would recommend getting at least 4GB of RAM. Lion requires at least
2GB of RAM. I would want some wiggle room. I think Zoom can get you by for
those situations where VO isn't getting the job done but, I think Zoom has been
neglected a lot by Apple accessibility. This might be
Hi,
I don't think this makes a difference at all. As long as both the place where
your marking and dragging are visible on the screen, cursor tracking doesn't
matter. I just turned cursor tracking off and was able to drag and drop a
folder to the favorites bar.
hth
Ricardo Walker
I don't know this for sure but I believe it does. Why not have her try it out?
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org
On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:58 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:
Does garage band allow one to enter a score without hooking up a midi device?
Thanks, Chris. I finally did take the plunge last night, and yes, all is well.
*sigh of relief) :)
Cheers,
Donna
On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
It's ok. I updated mine, and nothing blew up. The only thing they did was
to patch a security bug they found, so,
How can you remove snow leopard completely when it is only an upgrade DVD? For
it fills the only 3.49GB!
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Hi Jim!
Well I suppose you could ask at your particular Apple store what there
knowledge is and your other half would also be able to put it to good use if
needed!
So as long as they [at the store] can fit you in I understand you can have
quite a lot of 1 to 1 help!
And just one more thing!
If
Sorry for the long post but here goes...
Well I finally did the deed - got W7HP on my iMac late 2009. The
biggest problem was the fact the version of BC was 3.0 and very few of
the drivers worked with W7. I tried to download the 3.1 update from
apple several times prior to starting this task
hi has anyone experienced vo not going to menu bars
it will read just apple and nothing else
i tried turning vo off and on
also its slow typing with alex
he needs a boost
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Hi,
You have to go to the end of the preference pane. It will say click the lock
to make changes. Just vo-space on it, it will ask for your password, then
you'll hear a sound, then the controls won't be dimmed anymore.
HTH,
Courtney
On Jul 28, 2011, at 5:38 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
Thanks, I
I aven't had the issue where voiceover goes to the menu bar, but I sometimes
get alex repeating apple apple apple apple apple for some reason…could this be
because of the the mouse pointer? it can't be in my case, because the mouse
pointer follows the voiceover cursor
On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:36
Hi Garth!
OK when on the gmail screen and it should say something like your email and
under that options!
When sitting on your email link just press vo+space!
This should bring you to where you can check your settings and other things
like your profile!
You should find the sign out link there as
As soon as you hear the start up chime, hold down option for about 10 or 15
seconds and then press right arrow then press enter.
On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Vince Mistretta wrote:
Sorry for the long post but here goes...
Well I finally did the deed - got W7HP on my iMac late 2009. The
You need to run Disc Utility from the boot CD, select the HD your
partition for SL is on, then click erase.
HTH
On 7/28/11, Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk wrote:
How can you remove snow leopard completely when it is only an upgrade DVD?
For it fills the only 3.49GB!
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Hi Colin
Thanks for the response. I can understand your directions. I will try the VO +
U option tomorrow when in store.
When I tried it last time, I was able to find my name on the web interface. The
Apple rep could see on screen that the sign out link came up on screen when I
selected the
Hello Chad,
I have been experiencing something similar to this since installing Lion. From
time to time I will not be able to arrow right from the Apple menu, but I can
always arrow left from there and work my way backwards. Can you give that a try
and let me know what your results are?
Hi,
I've only gotten this problem once, but then I escaped out of the menu bar, and
it worked fine ever since.
Courtney
On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Cody wrote:
I aven't had the issue where voiceover goes to the menu bar, but I sometimes
get alex repeating apple apple apple apple apple for
I think the problem I'm having is not knowing when something isn't visible. I
will probably have to get my sighted husband to help me. The folder I want to
move is at the very bottom of the list, about as far away from the favorites
bar as possible. I get a consistent not in view message when I
OK, I have a friend who has just informed me that Apple as of the release of
Lion is no longer making, nor selling refurbished or not, the white plain
macbooks. Now, all they're selling in the laptop style is either the two
sizes of Macbook Airs, or if you want a full laptop, then the Eluminum
Well, my wife wants to get the one to one class, and I talked to one of the 3
stores we have near us here in Southern California, and one store in particular
said they would be willing to take me on, and they have a blind customer
already. That's the store in Pasadena. Jim
From: Red.Falcon
Hi Chris,
You're right about them not selling the white MacBook as of the release of
Lion. However, we don't know the reasons behind the decision, and they could
possibly come out with something that meets your needs. I'm confused,
though, what makes the MacBook Air unimpressive in your eyes? It
Hello Garth,
I have a late 2010 11 inch macbook air and can give my opinions. I've never
tried the 13 inch Air, so I won't give an opinion on it.
Regarding RAM: I think there are several good reasons to purchase it with 4 GB
of RAM.
Reason one: Unlike most computers, RAM on the Air is not
Hi Garth!
Well I think I can help with the quick nav thingy!
Instead of using the up down arrows try just the right one!
That should take you through each link until you get to the sign out one!
And I've got a track pad here so I'll just go and see what I can come up with!
[ I need the practice!]
Why do you believe that they will stop servicing your White macbook?
In the Journey,
Ron
On Jul 28, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
OK, I have a friend who has just informed me that Apple as of the release of
Lion is no longer making, nor selling refurbished or not,
Hi,
It's true that the MacBook is no longer being sold to regular consumers.
But it's still being sold to educational institutions. As such, it's
still being manufactured. So I'd expect it will still be possible to get
your MacBook serviced for the foreseeable future.
Geoff.
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Hi,
It sounds to me more like a hardware issue than a software issue. Those things
are usually related but when taking everything you said/did, it sounds more
like a hardware issue to me as it regained proper functionality after a
Shutdown/Startup. I would reset the PRAM though just to lear
I used to have that happen in SL right after the you need to plug your Mac in
dialog would appear. I usually had to turn VO off then on again more than once
and it would fix it. If that still doesn't work, try restarting your Mac.
Later…
On 2011-07-28, at 6:36 AM, chad baker wrote:
hi has
No optical drive, and not enough HD space are the two deal breakers for me.
Plus the guy at my local Apple store said if the O S crashes I have to send
it in for repair, as with no optical drive there is no way to restore the O
S yourself. When I pointed out a U S B CD drive, he said in
I didn't say they would stop servicing it. I said, read my e-mail again
please, that god forbid, if I ever had to get it replaced entirely as it was
nonreparable. Again, God forbid that day, but we have to face the reality,
that it is technology, and technology can indeed! do some strange
Hi,
In addition to jeff's comments, it's not worth speculating on what Apple may or
may not do if your MacBook crashed. Suggesting that they'll make you pay extra
money for a Pro or make you accept a MBA as a replacement is inaccurate
speculation. Giving them a bad wrap for something that
Aa. OK, so it's only now for educational purposes, ok, then that tells me,
they should be able to replace it wstill if it be an absolute last resort.
that's heartenning to know.
Chris.
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From: Geoff Shang ge...@quitelikely.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
First of all, that guy's an idiot. The cheapest MBA runs for the same price
as the macbook. And yes, it has a microphone and camera. Also, each air
comes with a USB drive that contains your software for restore.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Hi,
It is becoming evident to me that this list has turned into a free-for-all. I
am reading more and more mails that don't have much to do with Mac
accessibility but apple in general.
I bought my first Mac in February and joined the list because I wanted input
from those who have been in
Hi,
I was having the same exact problem you were having with the last mailbox in my
mailbox list until just now. I pressed the zoom button and both the favorites
bar and mailbox I wanted to drag were in in view I guess
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter Skype: rwalker296
Hi,
how do you know they don't have some white macbooks in reserve just for the
reason you stated?
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org
On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
OK, I have a friend who has just informed me that
I don't they would come out with a replacement for the white macbook. They got
rid of it because know was buying it. So why would they make another one just
like it. I don't see why someone would want a white macbook over a macbook air.
JMO
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter
Ok, i may be naive to the point of stupidness here, but i hope and pray to God
that we will be free from scripting on the VO platform. One of the reasons why
i switched from PC to Mac was the fact that not only did we have to pay a
horrible amount of money for screen readers and the like, but
Can't PC owner. It's been beaten in to us for decades now.
Relax, that thing about putting the customer first... it's true. It'll
all be just fine.
On 7/28/2011 11:05 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
Hi,
how do you know they don't have some white macbooks in reserve just for the
reason you
Hi,
Instead of listening to what someone told you, you might have been better
served just to look on the Apple website. The Macbook air starts at the same
$1000 the white macbook did. And its faster, does have a built in mic and web
cam, and you can get up to a 250 GB ssd installed.
Ricardo
Hi Shen:
I did have this experience---However, mine was only during the process of
installing Lion. During that time, a very dreadful, poor-sounding voice with
almost indiscernible speech would respond to my keystrokes. I couldn't budge
volume at that point either. I was afraid Alex had been
I too am just about ready to unsubscribe. Lately the quantity of low-quality
posts has increased dramatically which has the unfortunate side-effect of
making it difficult to find the quality posts. I've actually added a mail rule
to automatically send one particular high-volume poster's
Good Jesus H Christ guys! Give me a break for god sake! I wasn't
speculating! I asked what they would do, no more no less.
If all you all think I do is complain, maybe I should leave the list. I'm
trying to help and ask educated questions, but it seems it's not worth me
waisting my time.
Hi Garth!
Yes it's that annoying brit again! :]
Well I hope this is not to much info!
So I noticed you said about quick nav select [up\down] and that reminded me
that you can select how quick nav navigates with up\right arrows together this
will go through the same options that are listed under
Chris,
I'm not a moderator, but I feel I should ask you nicely to calm down. All
we're trying to do is give you informed suggestions as to what you could do
in the event that Apple for some reason won't service your computer.
I highly doubt they won't service it, seeing as it's still being sold
Hi Ron:
It is very much like a free for all. There is one owner, Cara, Quinn and one
moderator, Mark Taylor. There are no guidelines in place, because according to
Mark Taylor there were hundreds of complaints about how the group was being
moderated. Therefore, in the interest of those
Hi Chris!
I'm not a mod either!
And I'm not religious but there might be users on the list that are and
probably to polite to say something!
And if I get into trouble for this [so be it! ]
You might be angry or some other bad words but mind this is a international
list and some of those people
Hi all.
The college that I am going to in september for radio broadcasting is asking us
to purchase an app called ver recorder. Does anyone know if this is accessible?
I emailed the support team and they had no idea what voice over was, so I tried
to explain it to them. I just don't want to be
I have a question about signatures. How would i go about creating one and
making it my default signature? The dialog is a bit strange.
Thanks
Matt
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What does Ver Recorder do? Seeing I do a lot of stuff with Radio in
general, maybe it would be worth me looking into.
Chris.
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From: Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: a
its for recording video and audio for on location broadcasting i think.
On 2011-07-28, at 12:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
What does Ver Recorder do? Seeing I do a lot of stuff with Radio in general,
maybe it would be worth me looking into.
Chris.
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Hi Carolyn,
Thank you for that, I am able to expand the folders by hitting right arrow. i
didn't know that was possible. I'm so used to using command O. Thank you,
Carolyn.
Allison
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Hey Matt.
What you have to do is select the account in the left table and then scroll
over and hit the add button.
Next, you will be in a text box where you can type the name of the signature so
call it what ever you want.
Finally, go over to the text field and type what you want the signature
Hello list members:
I'm writing in response to some of the latest goings on here. I'm Carolyn, a
former moderator of the group.
When I was asked to back off, and then told summarily that hundred of people
had complained about my mod style, I decided perhaps my expectations were just
too
Hi matt, it looks like it worked. Thanks much.
sent from my macbook pro
On 2011-07-28, at 12:12 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
Hey Matt.
What you have to do is select the account in the left table and then scroll
over and hit the add button.
Next, you will be in a text box where you can type
So sorry to see you leave us. Indeed, let me go further. I'm sorry to see the
former quality of this list degenerated in to something that, to speak frankly,
it has no business being. It certainly was not this way when I first came on
board. To speak candidly, it would appear that certain
That would be a good idea. I've only been on this list since april, it started
out very great, and now it seems like some foks are just getting angry at one
thing after another.
sent from my macbook pro
On 2011-07-28, at 12:16 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
Hello list members:
I'm writing in
Carolyn, the only reasobn your mail got through was because I do not know yet
how to set filters up on the mac side of things, however, I need to clear up
something. I highly disagree with a lot of the things you've done when you
were a mod, no doubt, but let's get something straight here, I
I agree with Ray. The list will eventually return.
Also, Ray, I never suspected you were picking on me directly. You said nothing
in your mail to indicate such. Don't worry about it, my friend, you took a
stance in saying what you felt, and that's ok. It's your right. Even if you
were
Hi all,
I've been on this list for a long time, and though I've been very quiet, I've
not neglected it. I've been watching this list pretty much every day. I've not
said much because I have no questions to ask and nothing really to say. My
belief is that if you have nothing upbuilding to say on
Rose,
I couldn't have said things better had I wanted to! Thanks for the comments.
Greatly appreciate them.
Chris.
On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
Hi all,
I've been on this list for a long time, and though I've been very quiet, I've
not neglected it. I've been watching
Hi,
I'm just curious, what do you mean by simi professional?
Thanks, Courtney
On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
So sorry to see you leave us. Indeed, let me go further. I'm sorry to see
the former quality of this list degenerated in to something that, to speak
frankly, it
In data Giovedì 28 Luglio 2011 17.11.33, Krister Ekstrom
kris...@kristersplace.com ha scritto:
Ok, i may be naive to the point of stupidness here, but i hope and pray to God
that we will be free from scripting on the VO platform.
As you wish. What I need to have done is automatic reading of
Hey Ray:
Don't give me the shove-off quite yet, unless of course, it happens anyhow.:)
Clearly, the style of no management is preferable for some people. But, I too
long for a list related to things Apple, access, and not ego driven.
Take care
Carolyn
On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Ray Foret
Chris,
Here is how to set up filters but I serously doubt you will block her because
that would mean you wouldn't have the chance to blast her again.
Go into preferences and set up a rule to send any mail from a given user to
trash.
In the Journey,
Ron
On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:31 AM,
Hi.
If you like strictness, you should subscribe to the other Mac list and I can
tell you that there are so many guide lines, you can't not talk about anything
unless its Mac related.
I quit that list and am glad for this list and the relaxed aproach it has as it
was stuffy before so I came
So do tell, what is the other list name.
In the Journey,
Ron
On Jul 28, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
Hi.
If you like strictness, you should subscribe to the other Mac list and I can
tell you that there are so many guide lines, you can't not talk about
anything unless
Mac Access UK. I think that Anne Robertson is the moderator but I might be
wrong.
Sent from my iPhone
On 28 Jul 2011, at 06:47 PM, Ronald McEwan ron.mce...@gmail.com wrote:
So do tell, what is the other list name.
In the Journey,
Ron
On Jul 28, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu
He's probably talking about Mac4theblind. I'm on it, but I almost never
post there. Not because I can't do so, it's just I felt I really wasn't
getting near the help on that list that I have and still am getting on this
list. I don't think that they're many members on the other list,
OK, that probably explains why I've never heard of the list, being I'm not
from the UK. LOL! Like I say, it's ok, I get enough good resourceful help
here, so no need to bother joining another list for now at least. :)
Take care.
Chris.
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In the Journey,
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Hi Courtney:
By semiprofessional, I mean a list where there is even and decent exchange of
questions and resources, and ideas, and not the narcissistic ego-driven
chest-pounding nonsense and blubbering about what everyone else is doing wrong.
I would like to haves a list Where people are
As the owner of mac4theblind, just to clarify this misconception, the list
is intended to be small and low traffic. It gets the job done for those who
are subscribed, and there is no pretenses made of it trying to be an
alternative to any other list out there. If it doesn't do the job for
Sorry Ron, your e-mail appears to be blank aside from your signature.
Please try again.
Have a great day.
Chris.
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Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:14 PM
In the Journey,
Ron
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John,
thanks for the info on these other lists. I definitely will check them out.
I don't see any reason to unsub from the other list, but we'll discuss this
off list if needed. Just because I don['t post much, it is a resourceful
list. I just felt I didn't get very many replies aside from
I took it too. Thank God they had a blindemployee who usedVO. We worked
together for a year.
On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Christopher Peppel wrote:
Hi Jim,
I took the one-on-one course at the Apple store and it was definitely worth
it. In the store I went to, the folks were very friendly
Wow, thanks, Ricardo! I actually ended up moving the folder to a visible spot,
thence moving it eventually to the favorites bar. I'll try the zoom button next
time.
Teresa
On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
Hi,
I was having the same exact problem you were having with the
Hi,
Apologies if this has been asked and answered before but I've not managed
to find anyone else with this problem. We also checked out Chris' podcast
and he didn't mention anything special about logging in.
We have the problem that we enter our details into the wizard's connect
dialog
Hello, All,
There have been some interesting posts to the lists and I will address them
later today.
I am posting this short note so that you know that the lists mods are
reading the posts.
Make a joyful noise, Today, Ok?
Mark
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Hi all,
I have successfully gotten the Nuance voices to work (like a charm if I may
say) in Lion. It even gets the complex tone rules of Thai correct, which is
quite a feat! I had one question about the CJK (Chinese, Japanese and Korean)
voices. Does anyone have any experience to know whether
Hi Chris,
I'm a female.
Sent from my iPhone
On 28 Jul 2011, at 07:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:
He's probably talking about Mac4theblind. I'm on it, but I almost never post
there. Not because I can't do so, it's just I felt I really wasn't getting
near
Chris,
Are you always so reactionary, with every situation that confronts you? I'm
not trying to start anything. However, in over a month of monitoring this list
I've seen you screaming the sky is falling or in the face of other list members
an inordinate amount of the time. Again, I'm not
Hello:
I might be stating the obvious ... it sounds like things have gotten a little
out of hand. No sides being taken just a statement of the situation.
If anyone agrees with that analysis it would seem the question on the table
would be just what is going to be done going forward. If anyone
Please?
CJ
On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:34 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Good Jesus H Christ guys! Give me a break for god sake! I wasn't
speculating! I asked what they would do, no more no less.
If all you all think I do is complain, maybe I should leave the list. I'm
trying to help
OK But what I meant was, if it is just an upgrade DVD, not the full DVD,
so it requires
well that Snow Leopard is on the same drive were you can install Lion?
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Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011
Thanks to both of you.
I think my choice is now pretty clearly between the 11 inch with 4Gb and 128
Gb SSD and the 13 inch with the same spec. There is a $100 price difference
between the two at $1349 or $1449. The 13 also has a slightly faster processor
and supposably better battery life. I
Hi Chris!
If your still here!
And you've not put a block on my post's!
So I found out your a Christian OK that's fine by me!
But all I referring to was that there are other people from other countries and
they might not like the way people say things [and this is not aimed directly
at you]
But I
Sorry if I wasn't clear Colin, When I said I used the up and down arrows as
well as VO + space, I meant that I tried both options to select the initial
link. On both occasions the menu with sign out came up on the screen but we
were then unable to get VO focus to go to it. I will try again
Lol, It was not too boring but I probably wasn't still awake. I am fairly
familiar with how the web rota works as I use a iPad and have one of the Apple
Blue Tooth keyboards that I use with it. I'll give it another go and hopefully
be able to get some assistance in store if unable to sign
Hi folks,
In this episode, I show off some new features in voiceover found in Lion like
activities and drag and drop. I also show how to use the favorites bar in
Mail. You can listen at
http://goo.gl/Lm1Up
hth
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
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Good luck. I'm sure you will pick the machine that best suits your needs.
Ricardo Walker
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On Jul 28, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Garth Humphreys wrote:
Thanks to both of you.
I think my choice is now pretty clearly between the 11 inch
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