Re: Boot Camp, talking installer.

[mattias]

wonder wich iso armando uses?
because in bryans archive there is 2
one named somthing mega
and one about 512 mb

Den 2015-11-18 kl. kl 21:53, skrev Paul Sandoval:

i'm trying to install Windows 7 via Boot Camp.
I'm also attempting to use the talking windows installer.
If someone has experience using this installer, I could really use some 
assistance.
I've listened to a podcast on Apple this, but I do not know what I'm missing.
I'm using a MacBook air mid 2013.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Sent from Pablo's iPhone



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Seeking Referral for PDF

[Bill Gallik]

I’ve seen several threads on this list concerning PDF software.  I’d like 
something that would enable me to fill in PDF forms.  Does anybody have any 
preference they will recommend?
* * * * * * * * *
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Re: Boot Camp, talking installer.

[Rob]

Hi,
I used a low cost USB sound card from WalMart.
Please note that sometimes, NVDA boots with the no speech option selected.
Pressing insert+S, followed by pressing the home key, then enter should 
fix it.



On 11/19/2015 8:47 AM, Paul Sandoval wrote:

I've tried both images. Neither of which I can get to talk. Both will however 
boot up onto the desktop I've had somebody visually verify. iMessage Brian on 
Twitter, and he says he doesn't know why it doesn't work with some Macs.

Sent from Pablo's iPhone


On Nov 19, 2015, at 2:25 AM, mattias  wrote:

wonder wich iso armando uses?
because in bryans archive there is 2
one named somthing mega
and one about 512 mb


Den 2015-11-18 kl. kl 21:53, skrev Paul Sandoval:
i'm trying to install Windows 7 via Boot Camp.
I'm also attempting to use the talking windows installer.
If someone has experience using this installer, I could really use some 
assistance.
I've listened to a podcast on Apple this, but I do not know what I'm missing.
I'm using a MacBook air mid 2013.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Sent from Pablo's iPhone

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Re: Seeking Referral for PDF

[Bill Gallik]

Thank you Sadam!


Bill & Leader Dog Holland

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Re: Seeking Referral for PDF

[Sadam Ahmed]

The excellent PDF Pen Pro is always worth a look. 

I do believe they have a trial version. 

Yours truly, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 20 Nov 2015, at 7:01 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
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> I’ve seen several threads on this list concerning PDF software.  I’d like 
> something that would enable me to fill in PDF forms.  Does anybody have any 
> preference they will recommend?
> * * * * * * * * *
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Re: pages help please?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Zoe,

I am indeed the Anne who teaches Pages and I’ll contact you privately about 
that.
I’m totally blind myself, but my husband is fully sighted and from your 
description of your problem, it seems that you’re working with Pages 09 which 
is much harder for VoiceOver users to manage, and is no longer being updated. 
Since you have iWork 09, you can get the new versions of Pages Numbers and 
Keynote free from the Mac Appstore.
Cheers,

Anne

 

> On 19 Nov 2015, at 02:25, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ann,  I plan to eventually get some lessons, but unfortunately that isn't 
> possible right now.  A few questions if you don't mind.  Are you the Ann that 
> does the pages lessons, if yes could you contact me privately and give 
> details of the cost and outline of what you teach exactly.  Secondly I'm 
> sorry if I sound repetitive but something is very strange, I don't know if 
> you have sight or anyone who is reading this message has some site.  It's 
> very strange and the body of pages I can see the text and I can select text 
> with the shift arrow up from the end of the text towards the top but not from 
> the top towards the bottom.  And in the caption field at the bottom of the 
> screen there is an arrow pointing up.  Even if I'm at the beginning of the 
> document the arrow never points down.  What do you think of that?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: November-18-15 12:16 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: pages help please?
> 
> Hello Zoe,
> 
> As you’re a complete beginner on the Mac, Pages is not the most appropriate 
> word processor for you to be using.
> If you open your Applications folder while in the Finder by pressing 
> Cmd-Shift-a, you should find TextEdit. This is a much simpler program and 
> should do what you want.
> To put TextEdit into your Dock, just open it, then go to the Dock where it 
> will appear. Get a contextual menu on it in the Dock by pressing VO-Shift-m 
> and select Keep in Dock.
> 
> When you open TextEdit, you’ll be on the text area. Interact with this and 
> the rest should be simple.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 18 Nov 2015, at 01:44, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry what do you me what does your mac say when you po shift at three?
>> As for the curser I'm going to check it right now
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan C. Cohn
>> Sent: November-17-15 5:59 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: pages help please?
>> 
>> It sounds like your voice over cursor is not following your keyboard cursor. 
>> This could be either a VO shift F3. Or a option with in the voiceover 
>> utilities the 0F8.
>> 
>> What is your max say when you had PO shift at three?
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have interacted and if I click vo down arrow it moves by line but if I 
>>> click just the down arrow it says menu extras.  I'm so confused, why is it 
>>> doing this?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
>>> Sent: November-17-15 2:24 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: pages help please?
>>> 
>>> Zoey,
>>> 
>>> You have to interact with the text edit field with the same command
>>> that you interact with your menus, VO shit down arrow to interact, up
>>> arrow to deinteract.
>>> Could someoneelse chime in on editing commands? I think they are
>>> similar as Jaws involving the shift key to select.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Vaughn
>>> 
 On 11/17/15, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
 Guys can you give me some basic commands how to navigate text in a pages
 document.  Also how to select things by word or line to delete.  Also how
 can I know if I'm in the pages document.  Sometimes I hear text of the
 pages
 document but when I click vo right arrow I here menu extras what am I doing
 wrong
 Right now I don't want to do anything fancy I'm copying text and hopefully
 pasting in to the right place in pages but when I try to navigate and edit
 I
 can't seem to navigate properly.
 Please help?
 
 
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Re: Boot Camp, talking installer.

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

Have you tried plugging in earbuds, like the ones from Apple?

That sometimes does the trick. My Mac doesn't speak either unless I plug those 
in, and I know people who've had to do this as well. Bryan's page claims it 
does not support USB audio, but I've also connected USB headsets to the 
installer in the past.

Nicolai
> On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
> 
> I've tried both images. Neither of which I can get to talk. Both will however 
> boot up onto the desktop I've had somebody visually verify. iMessage Brian on 
> Twitter, and he says he doesn't know why it doesn't work with some Macs.
> 
> Sent from Pablo's iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2015, at 2:25 AM, mattias  wrote:
>> 
>> wonder wich iso armando uses?
>> because in bryans archive there is 2
>> one named somthing mega
>> and one about 512 mb
>> 
>>> Den 2015-11-18 kl. kl 21:53, skrev Paul Sandoval:
>>> i'm trying to install Windows 7 via Boot Camp.
>>> I'm also attempting to use the talking windows installer.
>>> If someone has experience using this installer, I could really use some 
>>> assistance.
>>> I've listened to a podcast on Apple this, but I do not know what I'm 
>>> missing.
>>> I'm using a MacBook air mid 2013.
>>> Thanks for any help you can give me.
>>> Sent from Pablo's iPhone
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Re: Spotify of Mac

[Vaughn Brown]

Are you saying there is an Voiceover specific Spotify?
Vaughn

On 11/18/15, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
> Hi Janine,
>
> Here is a post I've done on applevis (with accompanying audio demo) on
> how to navigate Spotify on the Mac using the keyboard.
>
> It seems the key to navigating the Spotify app is via frames. If you
> press command+L to get to the search field, (it's best to navigate the
> page with quick nav off), make sure to press command+A to select all and
> delete it, just in case there was text in the field you weren't  aware
> of. Put in your search term and press enter. Now, to get to the search
> results, press control+option+command+F. (VO+F). this will move you
> forward to the next frame. Interact with the frame, it will say "search
> frame" and vo+right arrow to the artists, or albums you wish to see.
> there's, at first, an unlabeled link, then the name of the
> artist/album/song, then, depending on what you're  looking for, the name
> of the artist. for example, if you were  looking for a song, you'll see
> the song title as a link, and then if you vo+right arrow again, you'll
> see the name of the artist/band. If you want to play said song, vo+space
> on the link, then navigate to the next frame, (VO+Command+F), and it
> will get you to the specifics. Interact with this, and navigate to the
> "play" button. At this point, you can (if you wish), turn on quick
> navigation by pressing left/right arrows at the same time, and press "b"
> to get to the "play" button. You can also tab a few times and you will
> be presented with a table of songs, either from an album you're
> listening to, or various songs with the same title by an artist,
> depending on your search. I've  created a short audio demo of Spotify
> searching, perhaps it will help:
> https://audioboom.com/boos/3300081-spotify-accessibility-on-the-mac
>
> Hope this helps.
> Rachel.
> On 11/18/2015 3:37 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:
>> Hi,
>> That is not the problem here. This VO Spotify App is what makes it
>> accessible, yes. The problem here is that Spotify uses Chromeium AKA
>> same as Google Chrome for it's webpage display area, and VoiceOver
>> does not like Chrome under El Capitan for some reason.
>> I do, know however, that this method does work, as I used it under
>> Yosemite.
>> Hope this helps,
>> Jeffrey
>>
>> On 11/18/2015 6:08 PM, Vaughn Brown wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> It sounds like this app may not be accessible.
>>> Vaughn
>>>
>>> On 11/18/15, Janine Smith  wrote:

 Hi.



 I am trying to use the Spotify app on my Macbook Air running OSX
 10.11.1.  I

 downloaded the Spotify App and the zip file from Applevis that turns on
 accessibility.  I managed to log into my account but now Voiceover just
 keeps saying empty html content when I try to interact with the
 Spotify app.

 If I press command l it will bring up the search box whereupon I can
 input
 a search but as soon as I press enter I get a number of frames all
 of which

 tell me empty html content when I try to interact with them.



 I have tried to access settings, both from the menu on the search
 page and
 by going to preferences in the Spotify menu, but again I get the
 message
 about empty html content when I try to navigate that page.



 I have tried both in normal and full screen mode.  I also tried
 deleting
 and then re-downloading and installing the voSpotify application but
 still
 get the same result.



 What am I doing wrong?  Any ideas on how I can get this to work
 would be
 greatly appreciated.



 Before anyone suggests Apple Music as an alternative, I thought I
 would try

 Spotify first as it has a free option when my trial period is over.



 Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Many thanks in advance for any
 assistance you can provide.



 Regards Janine

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Re: Boot Camp, talking installer.

[Paul Sandoval]

I've tried both images. Neither of which I can get to talk. Both will however 
boot up onto the desktop I've had somebody visually verify. iMessage Brian on 
Twitter, and he says he doesn't know why it doesn't work with some Macs.

Sent from Pablo's iPhone

> On Nov 19, 2015, at 2:25 AM, mattias  wrote:
> 
> wonder wich iso armando uses?
> because in bryans archive there is 2
> one named somthing mega
> and one about 512 mb
> 
>> Den 2015-11-18 kl. kl 21:53, skrev Paul Sandoval:
>> i'm trying to install Windows 7 via Boot Camp.
>> I'm also attempting to use the talking windows installer.
>> If someone has experience using this installer, I could really use some 
>> assistance.
>> I've listened to a podcast on Apple this, but I do not know what I'm missing.
>> I'm using a MacBook air mid 2013.
>> Thanks for any help you can give me.
>> Sent from Pablo's iPhone
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Re: Spotify of Mac

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hi,
Take a look at
http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-apps-mac-os-x-voiceover/how-enable-spotify-accessibility-mac
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey

On 11/19/2015 11:32 AM, Vaughn Brown wrote:

Are you saying there is an Voiceover specific Spotify?
Vaughn

On 11/18/15, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:

Hi Janine,

Here is a post I've done on applevis (with accompanying audio demo) on
how to navigate Spotify on the Mac using the keyboard.

It seems the key to navigating the Spotify app is via frames. If you
press command+L to get to the search field, (it's best to navigate the
page with quick nav off), make sure to press command+A to select all and
delete it, just in case there was text in the field you weren't  aware
of. Put in your search term and press enter. Now, to get to the search
results, press control+option+command+F. (VO+F). this will move you
forward to the next frame. Interact with the frame, it will say "search
frame" and vo+right arrow to the artists, or albums you wish to see.
there's, at first, an unlabeled link, then the name of the
artist/album/song, then, depending on what you're  looking for, the name
of the artist. for example, if you were  looking for a song, you'll see
the song title as a link, and then if you vo+right arrow again, you'll
see the name of the artist/band. If you want to play said song, vo+space
on the link, then navigate to the next frame, (VO+Command+F), and it
will get you to the specifics. Interact with this, and navigate to the
"play" button. At this point, you can (if you wish), turn on quick
navigation by pressing left/right arrows at the same time, and press "b"
to get to the "play" button. You can also tab a few times and you will
be presented with a table of songs, either from an album you're
listening to, or various songs with the same title by an artist,
depending on your search. I've  created a short audio demo of Spotify
searching, perhaps it will help:
https://audioboom.com/boos/3300081-spotify-accessibility-on-the-mac

Hope this helps.
Rachel.
On 11/18/2015 3:37 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:

Hi,
That is not the problem here. This VO Spotify App is what makes it
accessible, yes. The problem here is that Spotify uses Chromeium AKA
same as Google Chrome for it's webpage display area, and VoiceOver
does not like Chrome under El Capitan for some reason.
I do, know however, that this method does work, as I used it under
Yosemite.
Hope this helps,
Jeffrey

On 11/18/2015 6:08 PM, Vaughn Brown wrote:

Hi,
It sounds like this app may not be accessible.
Vaughn

On 11/18/15, Janine Smith  wrote:

Hi.



I am trying to use the Spotify app on my Macbook Air running OSX
10.11.1.  I

downloaded the Spotify App and the zip file from Applevis that turns on
accessibility.  I managed to log into my account but now Voiceover just
keeps saying empty html content when I try to interact with the
Spotify app.

If I press command l it will bring up the search box whereupon I can
input
a search but as soon as I press enter I get a number of frames all
of which

tell me empty html content when I try to interact with them.



I have tried to access settings, both from the menu on the search
page and
by going to preferences in the Spotify menu, but again I get the
message
about empty html content when I try to navigate that page.



I have tried both in normal and full screen mode.  I also tried
deleting
and then re-downloading and installing the voSpotify application but
still
get the same result.



What am I doing wrong?  Any ideas on how I can get this to work
would be
greatly appreciated.



Before anyone suggests Apple Music as an alternative, I thought I
would try

Spotify first as it has a free option when my trial period is over.



Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Many thanks in advance for any
assistance you can provide.



Regards Janine

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Re: Easiest way to get my iTunes library onto a thumb drive

[Mary Otten]

Thank you. Yes, I have the alias for convenience. Easy access to the music 
collection.
Mary


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> On Nov 18, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> You want to take a complete copy of your iTunes library.  Quit iTunes, then 
> copy the folder called iTunes in the Music folder in your home directory 
> under /Users.  Drop that on your drive.  That will get you both the media 
> files and all the iTunes library metadata that goes with them.  You can 
> reverse the process to restore.
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> Not sure what the story is behind your desktop alias.  Is that for use by 
> some other program, or do you just like easy access to your iTunes folder?
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