Re: Checkbook Pro Inexplicably Crashing

[William Gallik]

Hi Sarai,
I must say, you condensed the instructions down to the bear is sensual minimum 
compared to the instructions on the Splasm webpage! Excellent job!!

By the way, are you aware of any possibility that Splasm may develop a check 
printing feature?

– Bill and leader dog Holland
P.S.
I intend to contact them with the above suggestion, would you be likewise 
interested?

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Amazon Orders Page

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi everyone:
I cannot figure out how to see the orders under Amazon your orders section. I 
can see order date, prices, and ship to address. I cannot click on the orders 
and view what I purchased. Any tricks?
Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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more trillion issues.

[Jessica Moss]

Ok, I think I figured out that trillian is showing my off line contacts, but is 
now deciding to show everything as "off line," and I can't for the life of me, 
figure out how to fix this.  Has anyone else had this issue?

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Re: Using VMware on Macbook, any Advices?

[Phil Halton]

Remy, search the Applevis.com website for "sharpkeys".
There is a podcast on using sharp keys, and also a guide for using fusion 
settings to map an insert key to the ~key. The second method of using fusion 
keys remap is another option that doesn't require Sharkeys. You may want to try 
that as it is probably the simplest way to go. At any rate go through the Apple 
this website and read the tutorials podcast and other stuff that comes up 
relating to this issue
Sent from my IPhone


> On Feb 19, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> ah a, i have this app,
> but how will i use it? i tried it but can not understand
> 
>> On 2/19/16, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> There is one problem getting our screen readers to work. There is no insert
>> key on the Mac keyboard, and, the Mac OS X will not pass the caps lock key
>> through VMware to the running OS. Therefore you need to find another way to
>> assign a Jaws modifier key. I, and many others, have used a program called
>> "Sharkeys" which is a Windows app, to assign another key to act as an insert
>> or caps lock key. In my case I have assigned the ~key above the left I, and
>> many others, have used a program called "Sharpkeys" which is a Windows app,
>> to assign another key to act as an insert or caps lock key. In my case I
>> have assigned the ~key above the left tab key to act as a caps lock key.
>> So, I have Jaws set to use laptop keyboard layout with the caps lock key as
>> the Jaws modifier. And, instead of actually holding the caps lock key I use
>> the ~key instead. There are other key remapping tools available that other
>> people recommend, but I have decided to use the sharp keys program. It is a
>> little tricky at first but it works perfectly well for my purposes. Good
>> luck Remy
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Ramy Moustafa 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all:
>>> TOday I will buy the MacBook retena display with latest Mac OS, and I
>>> need to install the Windows 7 64 bit as an option for me.
>>> what do you recommend, bootcamp or VMware?
>>> and if I will use the VMware. are there any accessibility problems?
>>> will it work with our screen readers? perfectly?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Checkbook Pro Inexplicably Crashing

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I had this happen to me on Saturday. I had to delete the app from my mac, and 
download it from the app store again.
> On Feb 19, 2016, at 7:57 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> I’m not at all sure what could possibly have happened to Checkbook Pro on my 
> Mac mini, but the last time I used it all seemed well and I did shut down 
> appropriately.  But when I tried opening it earlier this morning I got a 
> crash report.  I rebooted the Mac but that did not help.  Can anybody offer 
> any thought on what in heck happened?
> 
> * * * * * * * * *
> Bill Gallik
> wfgal...@icloud.com
> 
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RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Simon Fogarty]

Surely the back door to the ios app to allow the FBI in after the act has been 
committed isn't the thing they should be focusing on.

 Why don’t they start doing something to stop the actions not only against the 
USA but the rest of the world.

I'd say lock down the middle east and everyone but the people that  should be 
there get the heck out.

 Like in the late 70s early 80s when people stopped flying in there
Then when the locals start running out of food and resources start working a 
deal with them.

Mind you then there are people like Richard branson I guess who start doing the 
opposite

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2016 2:39 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: Terje Strømberg 
Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

Well theres one thing Apple can guaranty, I’m not upgrading my IOS on my 
primary phone any more.:)

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 6:45 AM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
> 
> You have a valid point, but it is a double-edged sword. Apple say’s if thet 
> let FBI get it, the bad guys will also get it. The backdoor in the software. 
> I like the private IOS device, but if most terrorists starts to use iPhone, 
> they have to give the information to FBI. There most likely is a FBI way i.e. 
> not open up the backdoor in software for anyone, but for only FBI. 
> 
> Take care
> 
> 19. feb. 2016 kl. 09:20 skrev George Cham :
> 
> That's a good point about the fingerprint. But my question is this doesn't 
> make apple an accessory to terrorism if they  don't  cooperate  with the FBI?
> 
> 
> George,
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 19 Feb 2016, at 6:53 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Apart from that point where if your phone battery dies and you need 
>> to use the pin code to open it for the first time
>> 
>> Or did they even have finguerprints setup on the devices.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 8:11 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable 
>> search
>> 
>> Karen, you raise a really really good question.  Why don’t they just use the 
>> fingerprint of the phone owner.  He’s dead anyway so you don’t have to worry 
>> about his specific rights, he’s dead.:)  Couldn’t they lift a print or even 
>> a finger and just use that?
>> 
>> Now I really smell a rat since they had the body and had a means in.
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not only is Apple 100% correct here, the FBI is not using other doors, such 
>>> as the fingerprints of  those involved.
>>> A master key like the one the FBI desires seeing created is simply unwise 
>>> to develop.  Hackers have anoth leeway, and no one should have  their 
>>> privacy compromised in this fashion.
>>> After  all consider how often the government has themselves been 
>>> hacked, not only could this key be abused by the government, it 
>>> could be stolen by others. Just my take, Karen
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being 
 forced to cripple the security on iPhones.  Anyone have any comments?
 
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RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah but still no one really cares about us.

 What are we going to do, throw stones at people ok we got guns but only our 
special forces SAS are worth their weight in a real fight.



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2016 2:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

Actually, a good number of the calls going in and out of your country as well 
as Internet and other data is monitored out of white plains new york.:)

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Doesn't the NSA watch you guys when your on the John?
> 
> I'm glad I live in the deep south down under, no one really cares 
> about us other than in rugby
> 
> That's a sport where players don't wear pads or helmets
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 7:41 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable 
> search
> 
> You don’t have to sell me about the over reach of Government.  I’ve 
> been a Libertarian since before it was cool.:)
> 
> (ok it still probably isn’t but that’s besides the point)
> 
> You’re absolutely right though.  I have worked for telephone companies and 
> global carriers for years now and I’ll tell you that all the stuff you 
> mentioned is already done  They do listen to every call with complex systems 
> that preprocess conversations and sort them in to interest / prioritized 
> piles.  Your phone tracks your position.  The way you deal with this is 
> understand what is being done to you, restrict as much as you can and deal 
> with the political system and your representatives.
> 
> That’s about all you can do.
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>> 
>> Scot, but now imagine that apple looses… just for the sake of the 
>> discussion… what will be next, our cars? the sat nav? when will it 
>> stop?
>> 
>> On 2/18/16, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> So the EFF is with apple I believe, Google and Facebook, it’s just 
>>> the media who the government controls and the FBI who want this.
>>> 
>>> Just to add one small correction though, the pin isn’t the key it’s self.
>>> So while you’re right about the number of combinations of 4 digits 
>>> the actual number of combinations is probably more like 2 to the 
>>> 2048th power combinations.  The pin is but a seed / pass phrase 
>>> component of the key pair.
>>> 
>>> Since it seems most people are on the side of Apple we should all 
>>> write Apple in support and write our congress persons letting them 
>>> know we don’t support this intrusion.
>>> 
 On Feb 18, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse 
 
 wrote:
 
 so here is the thing, from what i understand and iPhones are not my 
 favorite subject, but ill try my best.
 When you lock your iPhone the key too encrypt it all is on your 
 phone, apple don't have it anymore, so not even they can unlock the 
 iPhone, not even if they wanted, if you use a lock code on say 4 
 digits, there is 1 different combinations, and it gets worse 
 seen form Fbis point of view, because after i believe it is 10 
 times wrong passcode, the phone erases it self.
 I personally like this feature, not that i have anything 
 interesting on my phone, but i like the fact that my data is 
 actually secure, problem is if they find a way to force apple into 
 making something that works, even if it is just for one iPhone, 
 guess  what the next time the shit hits the fan there will be 
 precedence for having apple roll their magic again.
 And that might be the dangerous part. It seems that google is with 
 apple on this one at least they sites with them, but have anyone 
 heard any Ms comments?
 
 On 2/18/16, E.T.  wrote:
> Michael,
>  I urge you to do your own moderating by using that delete key on 
> messages that bother you. I had to do that very task hundreds of 
> times just this week. And I expect that task is far from over.
> (smiles)
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it 
> were true?
> 
> On 2/18/2016 9:52 AM, Michael Malver wrote:
>> Two questions:
>> 1. Why is this topic any more important for blind users than for 
>> any other? That supposition is non-sensical to me.
>> 
>> 2. Since this topic is apparently on-topic, why couldn't Apple 
>> design some sort of tool whereby law enforcement could send a 
>> specific device to Apple, who could then take the 

RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Simon Fogarty]

I agree,

It's not just terrorist that this will effect it's all IOS device users.

 A back door access to one device is a back door to all devices of that type.

Iargree


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of George Cham
Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 9:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

That's a good point about the fingerprint. But my question is this doesn't make 
apple an accessory to terrorism if they  don't  cooperate  with the FBI?


George,

  Sent from my iPad

> On 19 Feb 2016, at 6:53 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Apart from that point where if your phone battery dies and you need to 
> use the pin code to open it for the first time
> 
> Or did they even have finguerprints setup on the devices.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 8:11 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable 
> search
> 
> Karen, you raise a really really good question.  Why don’t they just use the 
> fingerprint of the phone owner.  He’s dead anyway so you don’t have to worry 
> about his specific rights, he’s dead.:)  Couldn’t they lift a print or even a 
> finger and just use that?
> 
> Now I really smell a rat since they had the body and had a means in.
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Not only is Apple 100% correct here, the FBI is not using other doors, such 
>> as the fingerprints of  those involved.
>> A master key like the one the FBI desires seeing created is simply unwise to 
>> develop.  Hackers have anoth leeway, and no one should have  their privacy 
>> compromised in this fashion.
>> After  all consider how often the government has themselves been 
>> hacked, not only could this key be abused by the government, it could 
>> be stolen by others. Just my take, Karen
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being forced 
>>> to cripple the security on iPhones.  Anyone have any comments?
>>> 
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cloudmagic email

[jeff `greene]

Hi I’m getting really tired of mac mail being busy all the time. I found an 
email client on the app store called cloudmagic mail. Its rated 4 stars, just 
wondering if anyone on the list has used it?
Thanks, Jeff

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Re: Cleaning adressbook in mac mail.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes i guess thats what i want.
Thanks for your help.
Guess what i will do tomorrow *smile*.
/A
> On 19 Feb 2016, at 23:24, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> First then, make sure that all your contacts' information is up to date.  You 
> need not delete the entire contact card but only need to update the 
> information in it.  Next, it almost sounds to me like what you're after is 
> deleting the previous recipients' from Apple mail.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I think i want to delete the contacts.
>> There are some names there and adresses that no longer has the same email.
>> /A
>>> On 19 Feb 2016, at 21:23, Ray Foret Jr >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wait.  Do you want to get rid of those people's contact cards, or do you 
>>> really want to get rid of those people as previous recipients of e-mails?  
>>> It makes every difference in how you do it.  IF what you want to do is get 
>>> rid of previous recipients but keep them in your contacts, then you need to 
>>> open the previous recipients table off the window menu.  From there, just 
>>> go to the ones you want to get rid of and press delete on them.
>>> 
>>> Same thing with contacts only with Contacts, you open the contacts app 
>>> first.
>>> 
>>> 
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 Hi!
 Is the mail app on the mac connected to contacts so that if i want to 
 clean out contacts from my mail app then i have to go to the contacts app 
 and do that?
 There are a bunch of names there i want to get rid of.
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Re: Cleaning adressbook in mac mail.

[Ray Foret Jr]

First then, make sure that all your contacts' information is up to date.  You 
need not delete the entire contact card but only need to update the information 
in it.  Next, it almost sounds to me like what you're after is deleting the 
previous recipients' from Apple mail.


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> On Feb 19, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I think i want to delete the contacts.
> There are some names there and adresses that no longer has the same email.
> /A
>> On 19 Feb 2016, at 21:23, Ray Foret Jr > > wrote:
>> 
>> Wait.  Do you want to get rid of those people's contact cards, or do you 
>> really want to get rid of those people as previous recipients of e-mails?  
>> It makes every difference in how you do it.  IF what you want to do is get 
>> rid of previous recipients but keep them in your contacts, then you need to 
>> open the previous recipients table off the window menu.  From there, just go 
>> to the ones you want to get rid of and press delete on them.
>> 
>> Same thing with contacts only with Contacts, you open the contacts app first.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
>> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Is the mail app on the mac connected to contacts so that if i want to clean 
>>> out contacts from my mail app then i have to go to the contacts app and do 
>>> that?
>>> There are a bunch of names there i want to get rid of.
>>> /A
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Re: Cleaning adressbook in mac mail.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I think i want to delete the contacts.
There are some names there and adresses that no longer has the same email.
/A
> On 19 Feb 2016, at 21:23, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Wait.  Do you want to get rid of those people's contact cards, or do you 
> really want to get rid of those people as previous recipients of e-mails?  It 
> makes every difference in how you do it.  IF what you want to do is get rid 
> of previous recipients but keep them in your contacts, then you need to open 
> the previous recipients table off the window menu.  From there, just go to 
> the ones you want to get rid of and press delete on them.
> 
> Same thing with contacts only with Contacts, you open the contacts app first.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Is the mail app on the mac connected to contacts so that if i want to clean 
>> out contacts from my mail app then i have to go to the contacts app and do 
>> that?
>> There are a bunch of names there i want to get rid of.
>> /A
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Re: Cleaning adressbook in mac mail.

[Ray Foret Jr]

Wait.  Do you want to get rid of those people's contact cards, or do you really 
want to get rid of those people as previous recipients of e-mails?  It makes 
every difference in how you do it.  IF what you want to do is get rid of 
previous recipients but keep them in your contacts, then you need to open the 
previous recipients table off the window menu.  From there, just go to the ones 
you want to get rid of and press delete on them.

Same thing with contacts only with Contacts, you open the contacts app first.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Is the mail app on the mac connected to contacts so that if i want to clean 
> out contacts from my mail app then i have to go to the contacts app and do 
> that?
> There are a bunch of names there i want to get rid of.
> /A
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Re: Syncing Apps between itunes and iPhone

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Paul,

I always download apps to my Mac, but I sync using the USB cable. However, it 
should work the same way.
When you connect your iPhone to your Mac, look through your settings for apps. 
You should find a table where you can select Apps, then interact with the 
scroll area to the left of that table and you’ll find another table containing 
all your apps. Beside each app is its status: whether it is installed, to be 
installed, or not installed.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 19 Feb 2016, at 19:27, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> I am running the latest iTunes on the latest El Capitan on my iMac and am 
> running the latest IOS on my iPhone 5S. 
> 
> In the past I used to download new Apps from iTunes on my iMac and then sync 
> with my iPhone to get these new Apps onto the iPhone. There used to be an 
> iTunes option to sync all new and updated Apps via wifi. 
> 
> I can no longer find this iTunes option and so cannot figure out how to move 
> Apps from my iMac to my iPhone. I want to do this rather than directly 
> install Apps on the iPhone as I can then sync with my backup iPhone without 
> having to download the App again. This is worth doing for say the Tom Tom App 
> with is 1.8 GB download! 
> 
> I would appreciate any tips on  how to do this using VoiceOver. 
> 
> Many thanks. 
> 
> Paul Hopewell 
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Cleaning adressbook in mac mail.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Is the mail app on the mac connected to contacts so that if i want to clean out 
contacts from my mail app then i have to go to the contacts app and do that?
There are a bunch of names there i want to get rid of.
/A

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Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

[Jessica Moss]

Are you talking about the old version that was brought up about a week ago? I 
got that one up and running, but can't find that option anywhere.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 11:38 AM, BBS  wrote:
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> Kevin from Trillian gave me the link to downlad it. What's your email 
> address? I'll forward the link to you off list unless other people want it as 
> well.
> 
> 
> Shawn
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
> 
> Oh cool, how did you manage to get it?
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 9:40 PM, BBS  wrote:
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>> Hi Jessica. My offline contacts are hidden by default. I don't know why that 
>> isn't the case for you. By the way, they released Trillian 3.4 which fixes 
>> the accessibility issues and more. It's not in the app store yet but I have 
>> it.
>> 
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
>> shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
>> bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
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>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
>> 
>> Ok, with a ton of playing around with it, I finally got trillian up and 
>> running, however, it now wants to show every single contact I have on 
>> facebook, which is over 100, whether they're on line or not, and is a pain 
>> in the neck to deal with, sense it doesn't say if they're on line or not.  
>> Is there any way to hide my off line contacts?
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Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Eric Oyen]

Apple can still provide the level of security needed, and with the proper 
methodology, still allow the FBI, et al to have access to the information that 
is needed (and all without having to install a backdoor). It is a  pretty 
simple arrangement, but a little hard to implement.

-eric

On Feb 19, 2016, at 12:33 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> Not following it but I agree with him whole hartedly 
> 
> It doesn't take much for someone to work a jailbreak for an iphone IOS when 
> it's out, so how long would it take for someone to find the back door into 
> the OS if they did put one in.
> 
> 
> There was the same sort of issue with blackberrys and their encryption.
> 
> I say stay true apple,  your customers want the security of their data
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GarageBand and processing audio.

[Kjsc Radio]

Hello all. I am doing a project in garageband   and it has  about 20 tracks in 
it. I have 8 gigs of ram and A 2.7 GHz I core 5. I can't go in to about 10 to 
20 seconds without it stopping in the middle of my project and it popping a 
message saying garage and was unable to process the audio." The only thing I 
have running is GarageBand, and I don't get why this is happening to me. Does 
anyone know of a solution of which I can get around this? Thank you

Jonnyboy! Iphones rock!

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Syncing Apps between itunes and iPhone

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello, 
I am running the latest iTunes on the latest El Capitan on my iMac and am 
running the latest IOS on my iPhone 5S. 

In the past I used to download new Apps from iTunes on my iMac and then sync 
with my iPhone to get these new Apps onto the iPhone. There used to be an 
iTunes option to sync all new and updated Apps via wifi. 

I can no longer find this iTunes option and so cannot figure out how to move 
Apps from my iMac to my iPhone. I want to do this rather than directly install 
Apps on the iPhone as I can then sync with my backup iPhone without having to 
download the App again. This is worth doing for say the Tom Tom App with is 1.8 
GB download! 

I would appreciate any tips on  how to do this using VoiceOver. 

Many thanks. 

Paul Hopewell 

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Re: Using VMware on Macbook, any Advices?

[Ramy Moustafa]

ah a, i have this app,
but how will i use it? i tried it but can not understand

On 2/19/16, Phil Halton  wrote:
> There is one problem getting our screen readers to work. There is no insert
> key on the Mac keyboard, and, the Mac OS X will not pass the caps lock key
> through VMware to the running OS. Therefore you need to find another way to
> assign a Jaws modifier key. I, and many others, have used a program called
> "Sharkeys" which is a Windows app, to assign another key to act as an insert
> or caps lock key. In my case I have assigned the ~key above the left I, and
> many others, have used a program called "Sharpkeys" which is a Windows app,
> to assign another key to act as an insert or caps lock key. In my case I
> have assigned the ~key above the left tab key to act as a caps lock key.
> So, I have Jaws set to use laptop keyboard layout with the caps lock key as
> the Jaws modifier. And, instead of actually holding the caps lock key I use
> the ~key instead. There are other key remapping tools available that other
> people recommend, but I have decided to use the sharp keys program. It is a
> little tricky at first but it works perfectly well for my purposes. Good
> luck Remy
> Sent from my IPhone
>
>
>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Ramy Moustafa 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all:
>> TOday I will buy the MacBook retena display with latest Mac OS, and I
>> need to install the Windows 7 64 bit as an option for me.
>> what do you recommend, bootcamp or VMware?
>> and if I will use the VMware. are there any accessibility problems?
>> will it work with our screen readers? perfectly?
>>
>>
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RE: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

[BBS]

Kevin from Trillian gave me the link to downlad it. What's your email address? 
I'll forward the link to you off list unless other people want it as well.


Shawn
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Subject: Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

Oh cool, how did you manage to get it?
On Feb 18, 2016, at 9:40 PM, BBS  wrote:

> Hi Jessica. My offline contacts are hidden by default. I don't know why that 
> isn't the case for you. By the way, they released Trillian 3.4 which fixes 
> the accessibility issues and more. It's not in the app store yet but I have 
> it.
> 
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: 
> shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: 
> bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 8:26 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
> 
> Ok, with a ton of playing around with it, I finally got trillian up and 
> running, however, it now wants to show every single contact I have on 
> facebook, which is over 100, whether they're on line or not, and is a pain in 
> the neck to deal with, sense it doesn't say if they're on line or not.  Is 
> there any way to hide my off line contacts?
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Re: Using VMware on Macbook, any Advices?

[Phil Halton]

There is one problem getting our screen readers to work. There is no insert key 
on the Mac keyboard, and, the Mac OS X will not pass the caps lock key through 
VMware to the running OS. Therefore you need to find another way to assign a 
Jaws modifier key. I, and many others, have used a program called "Sharkeys" 
which is a Windows app, to assign another key to act as an insert or caps lock 
key. In my case I have assigned the ~key above the left I, and many others, 
have used a program called "Sharpkeys" which is a Windows app, to assign 
another key to act as an insert or caps lock key. In my case I have assigned 
the ~key above the left tab key to act as a caps lock key. 
So, I have Jaws set to use laptop keyboard layout with the caps lock key as the 
Jaws modifier. And, instead of actually holding the caps lock key I use the 
~key instead. There are other key remapping tools available that other people 
recommend, but I have decided to use the sharp keys program. It is a little 
tricky at first but it works perfectly well for my purposes. Good luck Remy
Sent from my IPhone


> On Feb 19, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hello all:
> TOday I will buy the MacBook retena display with latest Mac OS, and I
> need to install the Windows 7 64 bit as an option for me.
> what do you recommend, bootcamp or VMware?
> and if I will use the VMware. are there any accessibility problems?
> will it work with our screen readers? perfectly?
> 
> 
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Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Ahoy!
Cant wait for the "Trump" White house!
Being that I am a "independent" small business man we need that kind of freedom 
granted by the CREATOR.
Unalienable Rights From God.
Check out this link.
http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/AmericanIdeal/yardstick/pr3.html
We wouldn't even be having this discussion about the privacy if our so called 
"elected officials" were doing there job!
Their most important duty is to protect our borders!
If this was being done the terrorist" would not be over here at least not in 
the numbers they are now!
FBI sates that they have terrorist investigations in every state of the USA!
It may be time to call on the "Ancient Aliens" for the encryption code! LOL

If you need more clarification contact me! :)
Chuck

Chuck
 

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In GOD I Trust

On Feb 19, 2016, at 9:55 AM, E.T. wrote:

>   We now have a fight between Trump and Pope. I pale at the possibility of a 
> Trump White House, that would make this Apple vs FBI a non issue. Religion is 
> what drives this madness.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/18/2016 11:45 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> I'm not an American, but
>> It does concern me if Donald trump gets in.
>> God help us all.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>> Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 6:54 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search
>> 
>> The Patriot Act was exactly what came to mind. This is what scares me 
>> about the Republicans. I shall say no more.
>> 
>> Just keep those grubby little fingers out of my private life which is 
>> hardly private any more.
>> 
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 2/18/2016 9:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> ET very well stated.
>>> 
>>> The thing that amazes me is how the Media in the US is totally mistaking 
>>> what Apple has been asked to do.  Apple is not being asked to hack in to 
>>> the specific phone, they probably can’t.  They are being asked to create a 
>>> tool that the government can use with out limitation to circumvent any 
>>> security on the iPhone.  That’s BS which for the easily offended is short 
>>> form for horse hockey.
>>> 
>>> This is just another attempt like clipper was in the mid 90s to make an end 
>>> run right around the 4th amendment.  And you also correctly state once in 
>>> place there’s no getting rid of it.  Remember, the patriot act and father 
>>> land security I mean home land security were also supposed to be temporary. 
>>>  Good luck!
>>> 
 On Feb 18, 2016, at 12:36 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
Good for Tim Cook. I heard comments from both sides of the fence and I 
 say, once Big Brother moves in, there is no evicting him. Sure, its a 
 sticky wicket. We want to get the bad guy but at what cost?
 
  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
 true?
 
 On 2/18/2016 9:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being 
> forced to cripple the security on iPhones.  Anyone have any comments?
> 
 
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Using VMware on Macbook, any Advices?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hello all:
TOday I will buy the MacBook retena display with latest Mac OS, and I
need to install the Windows 7 64 bit as an option for me.
what do you recommend, bootcamp or VMware?
and if I will use the VMware. are there any accessibility problems?
will it work with our screen readers? perfectly?


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Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[E.T.]

   We now have a fight between Trump and Pope. I pale at the 
possibility of a Trump White House, that would make this Apple vs FBI a 
non issue. Religion is what drives this madness.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/18/2016 11:45 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

I'm not an American, but
It does concern me if Donald trump gets in.
God help us all.

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On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 6:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

 The Patriot Act was exactly what came to mind. This is what scares me 
about the Republicans. I shall say no more.

 Just keep those grubby little fingers out of my private life which is 
hardly private any more.

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/18/2016 9:40 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

ET very well stated.

The thing that amazes me is how the Media in the US is totally mistaking what 
Apple has been asked to do.  Apple is not being asked to hack in to the 
specific phone, they probably can’t.  They are being asked to create a tool 
that the government can use with out limitation to circumvent any security on 
the iPhone.  That’s BS which for the easily offended is short form for horse 
hockey.

This is just another attempt like clipper was in the mid 90s to make an end run 
right around the 4th amendment.  And you also correctly state once in place 
there’s no getting rid of it.  Remember, the patriot act and father land 
security I mean home land security were also supposed to be temporary.  Good 
luck!


On Feb 18, 2016, at 12:36 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Good for Tim Cook. I heard comments from both sides of the fence and I say, 
once Big Brother moves in, there is no evicting him. Sure, its a sticky wicket. 
We want to get the bad guy but at what cost?

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were
true?

On 2/18/2016 9:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being forced to 
cripple the security on iPhones.  Anyone have any comments?



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[Bill Gallik]

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Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Scott Granados]

Well theres one thing Apple can guaranty, I’m not upgrading my IOS on my 
primary phone any more.:)

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 6:45 AM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
> 
> You have a valid point, but it is a double-edged sword. Apple say’s if thet 
> let FBI get it, the bad guys will also get it. The backdoor in the software. 
> I like the private IOS device, but if most terrorists starts to use iPhone, 
> they have to give the information to FBI. There most likely is a FBI way i.e. 
> not open up the backdoor in software for anyone, but for only FBI. 
> 
> Take care
> 
> 19. feb. 2016 kl. 09:20 skrev George Cham :
> 
> That's a good point about the fingerprint. But my question is this doesn't 
> make apple an accessory to terrorism if they  don't  cooperate  with the FBI?
> 
> 
> George,
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 19 Feb 2016, at 6:53 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Apart from that point where if your phone battery dies and you need to use 
>> the pin code to open it for the first time
>> 
>> Or did they even have finguerprints setup on the devices.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 8:11 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search
>> 
>> Karen, you raise a really really good question.  Why don’t they just use the 
>> fingerprint of the phone owner.  He’s dead anyway so you don’t have to worry 
>> about his specific rights, he’s dead.:)  Couldn’t they lift a print or even 
>> a finger and just use that?
>> 
>> Now I really smell a rat since they had the body and had a means in.
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not only is Apple 100% correct here, the FBI is not using other doors, such 
>>> as the fingerprints of  those involved.
>>> A master key like the one the FBI desires seeing created is simply unwise 
>>> to develop.  Hackers have anoth leeway, and no one should have  their 
>>> privacy compromised in this fashion.
>>> After  all consider how often the government has themselves been 
>>> hacked, not only could this key be abused by the government, it could 
>>> be stolen by others. Just my take, Karen
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being 
 forced to cripple the security on iPhones.  Anyone have any comments?
 
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Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Scott Granados]

No at best I think it means they are in contempt of court.  Tim Cook might also 
be somewhat personally involved as their chief but again this will be the clash 
of the titans.  A wet dream for law school professors and lawyers for decades 
to come.  Something tells me in the end it ends in a draw where everyone 
loses.:(

Very interesting.

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 3:20 AM, George Cham  wrote:
> 
> That's a good point about the fingerprint. But my question is this doesn't 
> make apple an accessory to terrorism if they  don't  cooperate  with the FBI?
> 
> 
> George,
> 
>  Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 19 Feb 2016, at 6:53 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Apart from that point where if your phone battery dies and you need to use 
>> the pin code to open it for the first time
>> 
>> Or did they even have finguerprints setup on the devices.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 8:11 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search
>> 
>> Karen, you raise a really really good question.  Why don’t they just use the 
>> fingerprint of the phone owner.  He’s dead anyway so you don’t have to worry 
>> about his specific rights, he’s dead.:)  Couldn’t they lift a print or even 
>> a finger and just use that?
>> 
>> Now I really smell a rat since they had the body and had a means in.
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not only is Apple 100% correct here, the FBI is not using other doors, such 
>>> as the fingerprints of  those involved.
>>> A master key like the one the FBI desires seeing created is simply unwise 
>>> to develop.  Hackers have anoth leeway, and no one should have  their 
>>> privacy compromised in this fashion.
>>> After  all consider how often the government has themselves been 
>>> hacked, not only could this key be abused by the government, it could 
>>> be stolen by others. Just my take, Karen
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
 
 Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being 
 forced to cripple the security on iPhones.  Anyone have any comments?
 
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Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Scott Granados]

Actually, a good number of the calls going in and out of your country as well 
as Internet and other data is monitored out of white plains new york.:)

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Doesn't the NSA watch you guys when your on the John?
> 
> I'm glad I live in the deep south down under, no one really cares about us 
> other than in rugby 
> 
> That's a sport where players don't wear pads or helmets 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 7:41 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search
> 
> You don’t have to sell me about the over reach of Government.  I’ve been a 
> Libertarian since before it was cool.:)
> 
> (ok it still probably isn’t but that’s besides the point)
> 
> You’re absolutely right though.  I have worked for telephone companies and 
> global carriers for years now and I’ll tell you that all the stuff you 
> mentioned is already done  They do listen to every call with complex systems 
> that preprocess conversations and sort them in to interest / prioritized 
> piles.  Your phone tracks your position.  The way you deal with this is 
> understand what is being done to you, restrict as much as you can and deal 
> with the political system and your representatives.
> 
> That’s about all you can do.
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>> 
>> Scot, but now imagine that apple looses… just for the sake of the 
>> discussion… what will be next, our cars? the sat nav? when will it 
>> stop?
>> 
>> On 2/18/16, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> So the EFF is with apple I believe, Google and Facebook, it’s just 
>>> the media who the government controls and the FBI who want this.
>>> 
>>> Just to add one small correction though, the pin isn’t the key it’s self.
>>> So while you’re right about the number of combinations of 4 digits 
>>> the actual number of combinations is probably more like 2 to the 
>>> 2048th power combinations.  The pin is but a seed / pass phrase 
>>> component of the key pair.
>>> 
>>> Since it seems most people are on the side of Apple we should all 
>>> write Apple in support and write our congress persons letting them 
>>> know we don’t support this intrusion.
>>> 
 On Feb 18, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse 
 
 wrote:
 
 so here is the thing, from what i understand and iPhones are not my 
 favorite subject, but ill try my best.
 When you lock your iPhone the key too encrypt it all is on your 
 phone, apple don't have it anymore, so not even they can unlock the 
 iPhone, not even if they wanted, if you use a lock code on say 4 
 digits, there is 1 different combinations, and it gets worse 
 seen form Fbis point of view, because after i believe it is 10 times 
 wrong passcode, the phone erases it self.
 I personally like this feature, not that i have anything interesting 
 on my phone, but i like the fact that my data is actually secure, 
 problem is if they find a way to force apple into making something 
 that works, even if it is just for one iPhone, guess  what the next 
 time the shit hits the fan there will be precedence for having apple 
 roll their magic again.
 And that might be the dangerous part. It seems that google is with 
 apple on this one at least they sites with them, but have anyone 
 heard any Ms comments?
 
 On 2/18/16, E.T.  wrote:
> Michael,
>  I urge you to do your own moderating by using that delete key on 
> messages that bother you. I had to do that very task hundreds of 
> times just this week. And I expect that task is far from over. 
> (smiles)
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 2/18/2016 9:52 AM, Michael Malver wrote:
>> Two questions:
>> 1. Why is this topic any more important for blind users than for 
>> any other? That supposition is non-sensical to me.
>> 
>> 2. Since this topic is apparently on-topic, why couldn't Apple 
>> design some sort of tool whereby law enforcement could send a 
>> specific device to Apple, who could then take the device apart, 
>> and read/decrypt the data, much as one might now do through the 
>> removal of a hard rive from a laptop?
>> Asked another way, could something be developed which isn't part 
>> of the operating system, but which could helplaw enforcement 
>> perform their task?
>> For what it's worth, I think Tim is doing absolutely the right 
>> thing. A couple bad Americans shouldn't disrupt the majority of us 
>> who deserve 

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Scott Granados]

I remember that Blackberry had to hand over keys or some how lessen the 
security of their devices to be sold in Saudi Arabia.  But then we gave the 
kingdom a Naris Systems 6400 and I thought the security problem was solved.:)  
(that device is what the NSA uses for mass data collection, at least it was)

Our friends in germany should be especially sensitive to this considering how 
much phone tapping the US does internal to their country including your chief 
executive.  That would be the equivalent of Germany bugging Obama’s cellphone. 

Anyway, Glad to see such a large company and an industry stand up on the right 
side for once.

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 2:33 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Not following it but I agree with him whole hartedly 
> 
> It doesn't take much for someone to work a jailbreak for an iphone IOS when 
> it's out, so how long would it take for someone to find the back door into 
> the OS if they did put one in.
> 
> 
> There was the same sort of issue with blackberrys and their encryption.
> 
> I say stay true apple,  your customers want the security of their data
> -Original Message-
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> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
> Subject: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search
> 
> Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being forced 
> to cripple the security on iPhones.  Anyone have any comments?
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Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Scott Granados]

Funny how that sums up most arguments whether it’s cryptography, guns or 
wrenches.

Well said.  The only problem is it’s an almost fair fight.  It’s a more fair 
fight than usual which gives me hope but Apple doesn’t get to have guns meaning 
they don’t get to grab bank accounts of their adversary and they don’t get to 
claim national security and executive action and all that.  But, you’re right 
on a financial level.  Actually, one could make a real case that Apple is more 
credit worthy although I’d counter that by factoring in all the physical 
holdings and so forth, anyway outside the scope of this list but I like the 
comparison.  Maybe the rights of the citizens will stand a chance.  Facebook 
and Twitter are behind apple as well, that’s additional war chests.  That’s a 
lot of political influence.  Ah well I think I’ll just campaign for Trump and 
then move to New Zealand when he wins.
  

> On Feb 18, 2016, at 5:40 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just a few summary bits:
> 
> 1. The phone uses the user's PIN and a unique value burned into the device to 
> come up with encryption key so there isn't a way to get that ID out of the 
> device without first unlocking the device. There is also the 10 try limit and 
> then the data self destructs, so it's a pretty tough nut for the law folks to 
> crack without ruining the contents.
> 
> 2. The issue is not the event but the path it places Apple on. The US 
> government is not the only one clamoring for a crack in the armor. If Apple 
> does it for the US, I'm sure the firehose would be open and they would have 
> every other government and nation on the planet lined up at their door as 
> well. Some of those nations may or may not keep that special privileged for 
> the purpose intended. So I can understand Cook's lack of enthusiasm to open 
> Pandora's box.
> 
> 3. At least it's a somewhat fair fight. Apple is a Goliath that has the 
> resources to stand behind what it says. Not so much if the government went 
> after some little software vendor or the like. Apple can wait it out, fight 
> it out and do whatever it takes to stand their ground.
> 
> 4. If Apple loses or caves and anyone can snoop your device, that just 
> scatters the roaches to other places and platforms. If Apple, due to it's 
> US-centric operations can't hold onto it's security then the bad guys will 
> just migrate to other tools from other locales which have not been cracked.
> 
> A wrench can be used to both repair and maim, so should it be saddled with 
> regulation and control due to a potential bad actor using it for ill 
> purposes? If so, will the tool's utility be diminished or ruined under the 
> burden?
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/18/16 12:57 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> I agree with you on the first I think this topic is equally important to any 
>> citizens or anyone who does business or transacts with in the US.  So I 
>> agree I think it’s important for blind users but in the same way it’s 
>> important for left handed users or PC users.:)
>> 
>> Secondly, you ask a good question but think it through with me.  Once you 
>> introduce a mechanism to break through security you make an opening 
>> available to be exploited.  So let’s say Apple develops some magical way to 
>> crack their cyphers, that method now exists for the bad guys.  Once it 
>> exists you can’t put it back in the box.  So what Apple doesn’t want to do 
>> is compromise everyones security just to examine the contents of a single 
>> phone.
>> 
>> Does that make sense I hope I explained that well.
>> 
>> Good question btw.
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Michael Malver  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Two questions:
>>> 1. Why is this topic any more important for blind users than for any other? 
>>> That supposition is non-sensical to me.
>>> 
>>> 2. Since this topic is apparently on-topic, why couldn't Apple design some 
>>> sort of tool whereby law enforcement could send a specific device to Apple, 
>>> who could then take the device apart, and read/decrypt the data, much as 
>>> one might now do through the removal of a hard rive from a laptop?
>>> Asked another way, could something be developed which isn't part of the 
>>> operating system, but which could helplaw enforcement perform their task?
>>> For what it's worth, I think Tim is doing absolutely the right thing. A 
>>> couple bad Americans shouldn't disrupt the majority of us who deserve 
>>> incryption and who would not misuse it.
>>> I ask the above purely as hypotheticles.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 11:40 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search
>>> 
>>>Not to encourage more heavy traffic but this IS an important issue 
>>> 

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Scott Granados]

Actually, I beg to disagree with you. The major media is owned by 4 
corporations for the most part.  I was the lead network engineer for 
Knight-Ridder digital which was the online portion of the publisher’s products. 
 That company no longer exists as they went the way of paper.:)  I think there 
are a lot of Journalists who feel as you do and as I hope they do and are 
impartial and let the story take them where it needs to go not them creating or 
being manipulated to create the story.  I’ve also seen the other cases where 
stories were pulled.  I’ve also seen cases where the government threatened 
station owners licenses over stories.  On the flip side though, there’s a lot 
of great citizen journalism out there and some real old school professionals 
doing creative things.the former editor of the SF Chronicle comes to mind 
with his bay area citizens project.  I was also lucky to work in a cube farm 
next to a small online team who were in your camp.  As you said you have to 
diversify your sources.  I tend to find better reporting from outside the 
country.  The national providers are way to bought and sold, fox, msnbc or 
otherwise.And since the republicans verses democrats thing came up on this 
tread, both parties are evil, both are owned by the special interests and both 
have done equal all be it different harm to our civil liberties.  I’m a very 
strict libertarian so the whole thing is nuts to me.

I think this deviates from the thread to much though, should you wish to 
continue the general journalism conversation or non apple / general technology 
/ privacy n general thread we should take it off list or else where but as this 
relates to Apple and our freedoms in general I hope this continues.  I’m happy 
to see a lively discussion it means people care.  That’s a step in the right 
direction.



> On Feb 18, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> I have been a media professional for many years.  These days, someone might 
> read a twitter post or a Facebook one and decide it is news, but i assure you 
> that  the  major American media is not in the pocket of the government. Far 
> too many  of them are getting the story right to base an entire industry on 
> one  station  using one newsroom located  in one city.
> I am not surprised someone corrected the issue on air in California though.
> Kare  
> 
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> No, they are traditional news sources.  The KGO radio story ran for more 
>> than one day with that misinformation.  It was one of the talk show hosts 
>> themselves that set the news department straight on the air.  WBZ I have no 
>> idea what their problem is, it’s a major CBS station.  I think it just 
>> convinces me more that the media is in the pocket of the government.  It’s 
>> the gun deal all over again, spread as much misinformation and then act like 
>> it was an honest mistake.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> really?
>>> Would love to know what reporter with those outlets did not do their 
>>> homework.
>>> A swift review of google news sources clears up that mystery..frankly so 
>>> does reading Tim's statement.
>>> were those blogs?
>>> Might explain the error.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 CBS, WBZ out of Boston this morning was reporting that Apple was being 
 asked to break in to the individual phone only, not develop a tool to 
 access all phones which is in fact the case.
 
 Also, KGO out of San Francisco was reporting the same thing.  So no but 
 I’m glad to see that the sources you mention are discussing the topic 
 correctly.
 
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Karen Lewellen  
> wrote:
> 
> I am wondering what media you are following.
> articles in the La times, the Washington post, bloomberg, even usa today, 
> are linking directly  to Mr. Cook's statement.  Further many are sharing 
> how the FBI could be solving this issue, taking note of other industry 
> companies who are concerned.  Almost everywhere I have read points out 
> that the
> FBI seeks a master key, and that this is more than than about one phone.
> Unless you are just reading fox news that is laughs.
> Kare
> 
> 
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> ET very well stated.
>> 
>> The thing that amazes me is how the Media in the US is totally mistaking 
>> what Apple has been asked to do.  Apple is not being asked to hack in to 
>> the specific phone, they probably can’t.  They are being asked to create 
>> a tool that the government can use with out limitation to circumvent any 
>> security on the iPhone.  That’s BS which for the easily offended is 
>> short form for horse hockey.
>> 
>> This is just another attempt like clipper was in the 

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Bill Gallik]

A much wiser man than myself is quoted as saying, “A society that is willing to 
surrender privacy for the sake of security shall have neither.”

I completely support the position Tim Cook and Apple has taken in this matter.

The real question in this matter should be - why isn’t our government willing 
to take the steps to bring the individuals driving this mad terrorism to 
justice?  I’m sure western governments are quietly taking measures to make 
those persons accountable, but I believe we need a number more of Bin Laden 
like operations to “help” those folks understand the errors of their ways.  And 
more importantly, that the United States will not tolerate this insanity!


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Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

[Jessica Moss]

Oh cool, how did you manage to get it?
On Feb 18, 2016, at 9:40 PM, BBS  wrote:

> Hi Jessica. My offline contacts are hidden by default. I don't know why that 
> isn't the case for you. By the way, they released Trillian 3.4 which fixes 
> the accessibility issues and more. It's not in the app store yet but I have 
> it.
> 
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> Shawn
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> Subject: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.
> 
> Ok, with a ton of playing around with it, I finally got trillian up and 
> running, however, it now wants to show every single contact I have on 
> facebook, which is over 100, whether they're on line or not, and is a pain in 
> the neck to deal with, sense it doesn't say if they're on line or not.  Is 
> there any way to hide my off line contacts?
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Re: Skype. Is it still free, or does one now have to pay to play?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Skype still free.  There is a pay for option but it ain't necessary.


Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 3:14 AM, George Cassell  wrote:
> 
> I used to use Skype when I was using Windows.  But I’ve neither installed nor 
> used it since I came over to the Apple MacBook Air.  Is Skype still free to 
> use, or does it now cost to use it, either from Skype-to-Skype users or Skype 
> to anyone else?
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Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[Terje Strømberg]

You have a valid point, but it is a double-edged sword. Apple say’s if thet let 
FBI get it, the bad guys will also get it. The backdoor in the software. I like 
the private IOS device, but if most terrorists starts to use iPhone, they have 
to give the information to FBI. There most likely is a FBI way i.e. not open up 
the backdoor in software for anyone, but for only FBI. 

Take care

19. feb. 2016 kl. 09:20 skrev George Cham :

That's a good point about the fingerprint. But my question is this doesn't make 
apple an accessory to terrorism if they  don't  cooperate  with the FBI?


George,

 Sent from my iPad

> On 19 Feb 2016, at 6:53 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Apart from that point where if your phone battery dies and you need to use 
> the pin code to open it for the first time
> 
> Or did they even have finguerprints setup on the devices.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 8:11 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search
> 
> Karen, you raise a really really good question.  Why don’t they just use the 
> fingerprint of the phone owner.  He’s dead anyway so you don’t have to worry 
> about his specific rights, he’s dead.:)  Couldn’t they lift a print or even a 
> finger and just use that?
> 
> Now I really smell a rat since they had the body and had a means in.
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Not only is Apple 100% correct here, the FBI is not using other doors, such 
>> as the fingerprints of  those involved.
>> A master key like the one the FBI desires seeing created is simply unwise to 
>> develop.  Hackers have anoth leeway, and no one should have  their privacy 
>> compromised in this fashion.
>> After  all consider how often the government has themselves been 
>> hacked, not only could this key be abused by the government, it could 
>> be stolen by others. Just my take, Karen
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being forced 
>>> to cripple the security on iPhones.  Anyone have any comments?
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Skype. Is it still free, or does one now have to pay to play?

[George Cassell]

I used to use Skype when I was using Windows.  But I’ve neither installed nor 
used it since I came over to the Apple MacBook Air.  Is Skype still free to 
use, or does it now cost to use it, either from Skype-to-Skype users or Skype 
to anyone else?

—  George



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Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

[George Cham]

That's a good point about the fingerprint. But my question is this doesn't make 
apple an accessory to terrorism if they  don't  cooperate  with the FBI?


George,

  Sent from my iPad

> On 19 Feb 2016, at 6:53 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Apart from that point where if your phone battery dies and you need to use 
> the pin code to open it for the first time
> 
> Or did they even have finguerprints setup on the devices.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 8:11 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search
> 
> Karen, you raise a really really good question.  Why don’t they just use the 
> fingerprint of the phone owner.  He’s dead anyway so you don’t have to worry 
> about his specific rights, he’s dead.:)  Couldn’t they lift a print or even a 
> finger and just use that?
> 
> Now I really smell a rat since they had the body and had a means in.
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Not only is Apple 100% correct here, the FBI is not using other doors, such 
>> as the fingerprints of  those involved.
>> A master key like the one the FBI desires seeing created is simply unwise to 
>> develop.  Hackers have anoth leeway, and no one should have  their privacy 
>> compromised in this fashion.
>> After  all consider how often the government has themselves been 
>> hacked, not only could this key be abused by the government, it could 
>> be stolen by others. Just my take, Karen
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being forced 
>>> to cripple the security on iPhones.  Anyone have any comments?
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RE: Frustrated with Apple Pay

[Simon Fogarty]

I'm interested in hearing more about apple pay, 
We don't have it here in NZ at this point, but I had heard of it when it was 
first released by apple,

 I'd like to know how it works 
Is there any good documentation about it?

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
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Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 2:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Frustrated with Apple Pay

Sarai,

It sounds to me as though you were either not close enough to the actual 
transmitter which usually sits about 3 to 4 inches above the terminal's display 
or, somehow, the case was impeding the transmission.  

I suggest that you attempt a transaction with the phone out of the case and see 
what happens.  

Also, locate the actual transmitter with your hand before beginning the 
process.  After a while, you will learn where the transmitters sit, relative to 
the display, at various vendors.  For example, all of the Macdonald terminals 
are the same, just as those at Whole Foods are the same.  If you frequent a 
particular vendor, enough, you will remember where to place the phone for each. 
 

If this sounds complicated, remember that the world is made for sighted people. 
 To a sighted patron, 1 or 2 inches in any direction is of no consequence as 
hand-eye coordination is virtually instantaneous.  However, for those of us who 
are blind or low vision, 1 or 2 inches may just as well be one or two miles, 
proverbially speaking.

Mark
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 4:37 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Frustrated with Apple Pay

Hi Mark:
I do not have my phone in a normal case. I have the Spek case that covers the 
back, and a Zagg glass screen protector. I was laying my phone on top of the 
terminal then moving up a bit.
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 1:37 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Two more things to consider when using Apple Pay, Sarai,
> 
> 1.
> The terminal transmitter is not necessarily directly adjacent to the 
> terminal's display.  When I first began using Apple Pay, I would virtually 
> lay the phone against the display of the terminal, while this usually worked, 
> it did not always work.  I discovered, over time, that, in some cases, the 
> actual transmitter can be as far as 4 inches above the display.
> 
> 2.
> If you have your phone in a case, make certain that the case is not impeding 
> the signal.  I'm almost certain this is not the problem but, nevertheless, it 
> is something to consider.  For the record, I use a folio style leather case, 
> made by Case Mate, and have never encountered a problem based on the case.  
> Just wanted to offer this for your consideration.
> 
> Mark  
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 5:51 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Hi:
> I did. Says default card.
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 7:06 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> Did you verify that the credit card was fully authorized? Go back into your 
>> wallet and read the details of the offending card. 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 20:25, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi guys:
>>> I have a new iphone 6s. I bought it for Apple pay. I cannot get it to work! 
>>> I went to Sprouts, and Petco, who have apple pay. I held my phone up to the 
>>> reader. Phone vibrated, and brought up my credit card. I touched the finger 
>>> id. nothing happened! I cannot figure it out!
>>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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