Re: Typing on the iPhone

2019-09-27 Thread d.prater via MacVisionaries
That's like saying we should go back to DOS because we managed fine without it for a decade or two. New features will come, we should be pretty glad that Apple even gives us the chance to turn them off or even configure them to what we need, because users of other

Re: Typing on the iPhone

2019-09-27 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Well Donna we managed quite well without all that noise for years, didn't we? What we had in iOS 12 was just fine. Now I need to stumble through that long list and turn most of them off. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past.

Re: Typing on the iPhone

2019-09-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
I think that slide typing is probably a good thing for sighted users. For me anyway, what makes it distracting is all the input you get while sliding your finger around. But I suppose VO has to give you that feedback, otherwise, you wouldn't know if it was on the right track or not. There's

Re: Typing on the iPhone

2019-09-27 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Thanks for the confirmation, Petrus, Since do want limited haptic feedback, I need to spend some time doing it, thee is a long list of items. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/27/2019 5:02 PM,

Re: Typing on the iPhone

2019-09-27 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Thanks Lois and ET, I’ve fixed the sliding type and I’ll look at the other settings later. > On 28/09/2019, at 11:36, Agent086b wrote: > > Hi, > it is my understanding that sited people find slide to type much quicker for > them. > As a total I hated it. > Max. > >> On 28 Sep 2019, at 9:14

Re: Typing on the iPhone

2019-09-27 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Doesn't sound much different from touch typing but having turned off the slide to type seems to make typing with the braille display better. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/27/2019 4:36 PM,

Re: Typing on the iPhone

2019-09-27 Thread Agent086b
Hi, it is my understanding that sited people find slide to type much quicker for them. As a total I hated it. Max. > On 28 Sep 2019, at 9:14 am, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Yup, iOS 13 gave us a couple annoying things. One it thinks we need much > more help when entering text.

Re: Typing on the iPhone

2019-09-27 Thread Lois Butterfield
Hi, you will want to go into keyboard in settings and turn off the slide to type. I had the same problem it will help a lot. Take care, Lois Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2019, at 6:48 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: > > Hi all, > Now that I’ve finally updated to 13.1.1 I can’t type in my

Re: Typing on the iPhone

2019-09-27 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Yup, iOS 13 gave us a couple annoying things. One it thinks we need much more help when entering text. It is the same with a braille display. Would to get this behavior changed. The other one is overactive haptics. It's called Voiceover Haptic Feedback. You can turn this off completely,

Re: Voice over voice

2019-09-27 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Well the Wife’s iPad took a lot longer to update. > On 28/09/2019, at 10:00, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > That is risky, tongues are known to fall off. :) > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it

Typing on the iPhone

2019-09-27 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi all, Now that I’ve finally updated to 13.1.1 I can’t type in my messages app on the phone without a lot of unwanted input. If I hold my finger on a letter for a couple of seconds it will suddenly insert lots of unwanted characters. I have the typing mode set too touch typing as I’ve always

Re: Voice over voice

2019-09-27 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
That is risky, tongues are known to fall off. :) From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/27/2019 2:50 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: I was going to reply with an emoji of someone sticking their tongue

Re: Voice over voice

2019-09-27 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
I was going to reply with an emoji of someone sticking their tongue out, but it was too difficult. Sent from Petrus's iPhone > On 28/09/2019, at 09:24, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have

Re: Voice over voice

2019-09-27 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Ah ha! Well when U upgraded my iDevices, I did have trouble with hearing Voiceover. Go figure. When iOS 13 was released Everyonewas trying to get it at the same time, thus the servers were crowded. I waited for 13.1 and it initially said the download would take 17 minutes and it

Re: Voice over voice

2019-09-27 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! FOr me the Update takes about 20 minutes too. But ok i have 1 gb speed here. /A > 27 sep. 2019 kl. 22:30 skrev Petrus Tuerlings : > > Okay Master ET, > I must confess, I realised last night that you were correct and I totally > forgot about it. Yesterday morning I couldn’t get voiceover to

Re: Voice over voice

2019-09-27 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Okay Master ET, I must confess, I realised last night that you were correct and I totally forgot about it. Yesterday morning I couldn’t get voiceover to speak on my Mac at all and I even left it alone for about half an hour to see if it came back to life. All I got was the donking noise and

Re: Applewatch a question.

2019-09-27 Thread Jeff Berwick
I have the 3 with cellular and am very happy with it. I don’t really notice a delay, but I’ve never played with a 4 or 5. Jeff > On Sep 27, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > I decided not to by any of the Earpods or Powerbeats from Apple. > However as i would like to buy me

Applewatch a question.

2019-09-27 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I decided not to by any of the Earpods or Powerbeats from Apple. However as i would like to buy me an apple watch and since its a bit expensive for my wallet i am wondering if the Series 3 is something i would regret to buy? I have the series 1 which i haven’t used for a very very long time

Re: face ID annoying me

2019-09-27 Thread Julie Rattray
I did it myself but after voiceover was turned on > On 27 Sep 2019, at 15:07, Phil Halton wrote: > > When I bought my ten r last week, The sales rep and myself couldn’t get face > ID to work. Finally we set it up again a second time and then it worked > flawlessly and still does. I’m

Re: face ID annoying me

2019-09-27 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi Tim, thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I took the shades off and restarted at around half arm's length, and so far I have had 100% unlocking. This is growing on me > On 27 Sep 2019, at 11:49 pm, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > First, I would set up your Face ID

Re: Command to Read Entire Document

2019-09-27 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Wrong thread. :) From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/27/2019 1:41 AM, Julie Rattray wrote: Hi ET Sorry not really sure what you mean here On 26 Sep 2019, at 17:47, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

Re: Mac Updates

2019-09-27 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Good to know there is a way to handle this sort of thing. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/27/2019 7:04 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote: Okay, I figured it out. If you go into System Preferences and

Re: face ID annoying me

2019-09-27 Thread Phil Halton
When I bought my ten r last week, The sales rep and myself couldn’t get face ID to work. Finally we set it up again a second time and then it worked flawlessly and still does. I’m wondering how you set up Face ID? If you did it yourself or with help, and if so is it possible it didn’t do a very

Re: Mac Updates

2019-09-27 Thread Jeff Berwick
Okay, I figured it out. If you go into System Preferences and choose software update there is a more info button. Activating the button will show you a list of the proposed updates and they have a checkbox so you can select which one you want to install. Jeff > On Sep 26, 2019, at 9:22 PM,

Re: face ID annoying me

2019-09-27 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, First, I would set up your Face ID without the sun glasses on. Face ID should not have a problem figuring out who you are even when you have the sun glasses on afterwards. Yes, a little further away is a good thing. A full arms length works, but 30 to 50 cm suffice in my opinion.

RE: face ID annoying me

2019-09-27 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Yuma, I also wear sun glasses most of the time, I don't have anywhere near the issues you have. I'm not sure if I have attention settings on or off, I assume off as I'd have to be lucky to look at the camera. The time I really have issues is when I have extremely bright sunlight shining

Re: Command to Read Entire Document

2019-09-27 Thread Julie Rattray
Hi ET Sorry not really sure what you mean here > On 26 Sep 2019, at 17:47, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, Audio. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were

Re: face ID annoying me

2019-09-27 Thread Lois Butterfield
Hi, I used to have a hard time until someone on one f these lists gave me a tip. That is, hold the phone farther away, about arm’s length away, and it works 99% of the time. Good luck. Lois Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2019, at 12:36 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > > Hi all, > > So I