Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, This Apple Insider article may shed some more light on things for you: https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/06/07/macos-montereys-live-text-allows-users-to-interact-with-text-in-any-image

Re: Internet Archive

2021-07-02 Thread Eric Oyen
Yeah, windows is about the only place where Firefox is fully accessible outside of a Linux environment (and there are several distributions of Linux that have full accessibility for the blind). So, Firefox in windows can work with either jaws or NVDA pretty well. Just don’t use it in OS X. And

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread David The Computer Guy
You can go to the site & download the Mac version as there’s a version for Linux, Windows & MacOS Sent from David The Computer Guy 707-759-7586 > On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:51 PM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote: > >  > Okay, how do you download the file; not sure I recognize the extension. > Is it

RE: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread skipper8218
Okay, as I understand it, VoiceOver Recognition will provide image recognition in apps and on websites, but I see nothing about OCR for documents. Thanks again for the resource. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 5:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

RE: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread skipper8218
Okay, how do you download the file; not sure I recognize the extension. Is it accessible, and what platforms does it work on? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of David The Computer Guy Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 8:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread David The Computer Guy
FYI, Y’all should have a look at Xournal… This app is the bomb for PDF editing, even edits what Basic Adobe Reader doesn’t without having to pay for a license or subscription! http://downloads.sourceforge.net/xournal/xournal-0.4.8.2016.tar.gz Sent from David The Computer Guy 707-759-7586 > On

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Brad Snyder
Your 2014 Mac mini should have no problem running Big Sur. I would assume Podcast should be the same on Big Sur as on Catalina, but can’t say for sure, because I don’t use the Podcast app on Mac. - Brad - On Jul 2, 2021, at 17:24, Lorie McCloud wrote: well, I might eventually. I have a late

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Lorie McCloud
well, I might eventually. I have a late 2014 Mac. could it handle Big Sur? my other question is: is there any difference in how Big Sur handles podcasts from the way Catalina does? thanks. > On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > Perhaps VoiceOver Recognition is not supported in

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Brad Snyder
Perhaps VoiceOver Recognition is not supported in Catalina. Might be a good time to consider upgrading to Big Sur. >From what I can tell, any accessibility issues have been eliminated and you >should be good to go. - Brad - On Jul 2, 2021, at 17:05, Lorie McCloud wrote: last thing I find is

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Lorie McCloud
ok. thanks. that explains it. > On Jul 2, 2021, at 5:07 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > I expect that it is due to you running Catalina. I believe that the feature > is a Big Sur introduction. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I expect that it is due to you running Catalina. I believe that the feature is a Big Sur introduction. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Jul 2, 2021, at 4:05 PM,

RE: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread skipper8218
Thanks. That might determine if I even need a PDF app capable of OCR on the Mac. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 5:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to Best Access PDF Files Hi, For information about VoiceOver Recognition,

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Lorie McCloud
last thing I find is activities. > On Jul 2, 2021, at 4:43 PM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > It is right where Tim said. In the VoiceOver Utility, last item at the > bottom of the categories table. > > - Brad - > > > On Jul 2, 2021, at 16:33, Lorie McCloud > wrote: >

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, For information about VoiceOver Recognition, see this link: https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/voiceover/vocbaf20181f/mac Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Brad Snyder
It is right where Tim said. In the VoiceOver Utility, last item at the bottom of the categories table. - Brad - On Jul 2, 2021, at 16:33, Lorie McCloud wrote: where is it on a Mac Mini? you probably remember I'm running Catalina. > On Jul 2, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Brad Snyder

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Lorie McCloud
where is it on a Mac Mini? you probably remember I'm running Catalina. > On Jul 2, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Brad Snyder wrote: > > I have VoiceOver Recognition on both my 2018 Mac mini, and 2019 MacBook Pro > 13. Both are Intel Macs, and both are running Big Sur 11.4. > > > - Brad - > > > On Jul

RE: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread skipper8218
Does VoiceOver Recognition work on documents now or just images? I do not read PDF documents on my phone. Thanks. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Brad Snyder Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 5:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Brad Snyder
I have VoiceOver Recognition on both my 2018 Mac mini, and 2019 MacBook Pro 13. Both are Intel Macs, and both are running Big Sur 11.4. - Brad - On Jul 2, 2021, at 16:03, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi, I believe that it is only available on the M1 Macs. It is the last item

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Lorie McCloud
oh. I'm on a Mac Mini. there's something about image description in the vo utility. is that relevant in any way? > On Jul 2, 2021, at 4:03 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > I believe that it is only available on the M1 Macs. It is the last item in > the list of

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I believe that it is only available on the M1 Macs. It is the last item in the list of categories. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Jul 2, 2021, at 2:47 PM,

Re: Internet Archive

2021-07-02 Thread Lorie McCloud
ok. thanks. I used to like it in windows. oh well. > On Jul 2, 2021, at 1:20 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > > Firefox is a freaking joke on OS X when it comes to accessibility. It still > has major issues that make it a non-starter. > > -Eric > > >> On Jul 1, 2021, at 1:47 AM, Lorie McCloud

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Lorie McCloud
Where is voiceover recognition in the vo utility? I looked for it in there but couldn't find it. thanks. Lorie > On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:02 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > Did you make sure that VoiceOver Recognition was enabled within the VO > Utility? If that is

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi John, Well, when I searched for the Pro version, it came back with one result. Abby FineReader for $129.99. The word Pro was not in the title of the App, but that must be the correct version. Best, Les > On Jul 2, 2021, at 4:38 PM, John Panarese wrote: > > Make sure it’s Abby FineReader

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread John Panarese
Make sure it’s Abby FineReader Pro. Unless they raised the price, it was $99. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE

RE: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread skipper8218
If that is the case, then I look forward to that feature. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 4:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to Best Access PDF Files Hi, As far as I know, they’re working on that sort of thing for Monterey.

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, As far as I know, they’re working on that sort of thing for Monterey. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Jul 2, 2021, at 2:26 PM, > wrote: > > It would be nice

RE: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread skipper8218
It would be nice if VoiceOver for the Mac included OCR recognition much like JAWS and NVDA. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 4:25 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to Best Access PDF Files Hi John, I just

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I’ve always found tables awkward in documents whether they are PDF’s or not. Links are fine. I believe that you can do a trial of PDFPen or PDFPen Pro from the WonderShare site. https://pdfpen.com/pdfpen-family/ It might be worth you checking out

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi John, I just went into the App Store and Abby FineReader is listed at $129. I forgot about Prizmo, so will also check that out. I may just stay with Windows for this task. Best Regards, Les > On Jul 2, 2021, at 3:58 PM, John Panarese wrote: > > Abby FineReader Pro is only $99 and Prizmo

RE: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread skipper8218
Thanks. Very reasonable. Which app do you like better and why? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 4:02 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to Best Access PDF Files Stand-alone apps. One time purchases.

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread John Panarese
Stand-alone apps. One time purchases. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS

RE: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread skipper8218
Okay, are these subscription based aps or stand alone apps? The pricing is very reasonable. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 3:58 PM To: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: How to Best Access PDF Files Abby

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread John Panarese
Abby FineReader Pro is only $99 and Prizmo is somewhere around $69.00. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE

RE: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread skipper8218
Lack of an inexpensive OCR app for the Mac is why I will always use both Windows and Mac. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 3:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to Best Access PDF Files Hi Tim, related to

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Tim, related to accessing PDFs on a Mac, using the PDF pen that you mentioned, can you efficiently and successfully navigate tables and click on links that take you to websites or elsewhere within a PDF document? I am not using a Mac presently. One of the reasons I reluctantly went to

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I would expect that they would maintain accessibility in ABBYY Fine Reader as that was a feature that they were quite proud of. Of course, I could simply be projecting my hopes, but, yes, ABBYY, if still accessible, is a very useful OCR and scanning tool. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
On 2/7/21 1:36 pm, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote: Yes, Adobe is a subscription model.  There’s both PDFPen and PDFPen Pro.  PEFPen is not as feature full, but has the OCR, is very accessible and a really good package.  No, neither are free, but the Pro version is more expensive and

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Les Kriegler
I need to perform OCR on this document, and that need arises from time to time. Thanks. Vest, Les > On Jul 2, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: > > Hi, > sorry I didn't follow this thread so hopefully I'm not wrong in > understanding: Why don't you use CMD a and CMD c to extract text

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Yes, Adobe is a subscription model. There’s both PDFPen and PDFPen Pro. PEFPen is not as feature full, but has the OCR, is very accessible and a really good package. No, neither are free, but the Pro version is more expensive and probably has more features than you might need. There

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi, sorry I didn't follow this thread so hopefully I'm not wrong in understanding: Why don't you use CMD a and CMD c to extract text from PDFS? Or do you need an OCR? There was once a software called something PDFIFY for this task. It was free. All the best Jürgen Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Tim, I did a search for a PDF pen but could not find it. I found PDF pen Pro but I don’t think I want that one. I just need something they can extract text and $80 doesn’t seem like a good idea for that. Can you suggest we are PDF and maybe located? I hope they still offer it. Sent from my

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Yes, acrobat is accessible, although I do find it rather cumbersome to maneuver through. PDFPen or PDFPen Pro are much more voiceover friendly and that's much easier to use. Neither are free though. Later… Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2021, at 9:26 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: > > Hi

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Tim, Yes, I did enable recognition. It read some gibberish, very little, though. I take it Acrobat works on the Mac? On my Windows machine, I have the Reader, and I used fJaws to extract text. If I recall, Acrobat Pro was a subscription service, but I could be mistaken. PDF Pen is a program

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Did you make sure that VoiceOver Recognition was enabled within the VO Utility? If that is enabled, you should, at least, get VoiceOver to announce that it is a document with text on it. Otherwise, apps like Acrobat DC or PDFPen can do the OCR for you. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf

Re: How to Best Access PDF Files

2021-07-02 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Tim, I followed your instructions. When I invoked the text recognition command, it reported no image description available. Was the Full N an app? Does this mean I can perform OCR on a pdf as can be done with Acrobat? Actually, in Windows, I used the Jaws facility to extract text that was

Re: Internet Archive

2021-07-02 Thread Eric Oyen
Firefox is a freaking joke on OS X when it comes to accessibility. It still has major issues that make it a non-starter. -Eric > On Jul 1, 2021, at 1:47 AM, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > What about Firefox? > >> On Jun 30, 2021, at 7:46 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, no. that is one