Re: app for determining color

[Chris Miles]

Hi,

On the Envision app for IOS there is a colour detector - standard 30 and 
descriptive over 900 colours. This app is now free.

Regards,



ChrisMiles.

> On 24 Nov 2022, at 15:46, Thomas Frank  wrote:
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> Really, as far as I can determine, there are no really accurate color 
> detectors on the I Phone. Several standalone models work well but they are 
> pricey. A good alternative is to use Be My Eyes or AIA. Nothing beats a 
> really good pair of eyes.
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>>> On 11/21/2022 10:20 AM, Patrick Ford wrote:
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>>> Can anyone recommend an app which determines color?
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Answering a call on the Mac

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
This has probably been answered before.  How do you answer a call on the mac 
using VO?
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Re: adjusting volume and wpeaking rate on apple watch

[Chris Moore]

Thanks, Tim.  I didn’t realize that apple watch had a rotor.
Chris

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> Hi,
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> You can also do this in the rotor.  Twist two fingers left or right until you 
> hear “Volume” or “Speaking Rate”, then swipe up/down to adjust.
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>> Hello,
>> I can adjust volume and rate from within the settings app on the watch.  Are 
>> there other ways to accomplish this?
>> For example, when in the “Good Morning” screen, swiping up and down adjusts 
>> the rate.  Are there some undocumented and perhaps quicker ways to change 
>> rate and volume settings?
>> 
>> TIA
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adjusting volume and wpeaking rate on apple watch

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
I can adjust volume and rate from within the settings app on the watch.  Are 
there other ways to accomplish this?
For example, when in the “Good Morning” screen, swiping up and down adjusts the 
rate.  Are there some undocumented and perhaps quicker ways to change rate and 
volume settings?

TIA
Chris

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Kindle for Mac

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
Is Kindle for Mac accessible?  

Thanks.
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Re: Voice Over on Apple TV box

[Chris Moore]

Try holding the Siri button on the remote and say “turn voiceOver on”.
Chris

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> Hello!
> How to turn on Voice Over on Apple TV boxes second and third generation?
> TIA
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VoiceOver transmitting in zoom meetings

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
When using the mac with zoom, VO is transmitting to the meeting even when using 
headphones.  The only way to stop this is to mute my audio.  
Has anyone else experienced this, and are there any other workarounds?

TIA
Chris

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Re: Passcode on Apple watch

[Chris Moore]

A couple things:
First, if your iPhone is handy, you can put your watch on your wrist and unlock 
your phone to avoid entering the passcode.
Second, rather than swiping on your watch, you can simply move your finger on 
the watch face until you land on the digit, then double-tap.

Chris

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music library question

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
How can I distinguish between my own music and what has been added from Apple 
music?

Chris

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Re: Unable to back up iPhone, because “some files are not available“

[Chris Moore]

Mary,
Is his iCloud full?  
What about logging out of iCloud and back in.
If all else fails, contact Apple support.

HTH
Chris

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Amadeus Pro - splitting album into tracks

[Chris Moore]

Hello,

I’m working on splitting an album into tracks based on silence detection.  This 
particular album has fades at the end of the tracks which throws off the 
silence detection.  Fixing this involves changing the marker positions in the 
markers window.  In Mosen’s book he indicated that this feature was not 
accessible.  Well, I was able to access the location field by routing the mouse 
to the VO cursor with cmd + VO + f5, and clicking the mouse with VO + shift + 
space and increasing the locations as appropriate.  The marker names can be 
added in a similar fashion.  

HTH
Chris 

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Re: Big Sur 11.1 vs Catalina 10.15.7?

[Chris Westbrook]

I am still having trouble with say all vo+a in vixler not stopping when the
control key is pressed. Apple accessibility confirmed it on my machine and
is going to look into it.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 6:21 PM Brad Snyder  wrote:

> Adding items to the Dock is not a problem using CTRL + CMD + Shift + T.
> Launching Dock items can be done by placing VoiceOver focus on a Dock
> item, and pressing the Enter key.
> The problem is opening and accessing the Shortcut menu for Dock items.
> Currently this can not be done in Big Sur 11.1.
>
> - Brad -
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> On Jan 3, 2021, at 16:55, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> Safari works fine, I don't use terminal or the other applications you
> mentioned. The messages app is quite a bit different, it's usable but takes
> some getting used to. At this point, adding and removing items from the
> dock is not possible using the keyboard, I think Apple has confirmed that
> this is a known issue. It's really up to you, there's certainly nothing
> wrong with waiting for a while for Apple to make things better.
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> Hi,
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> Based on your experiences, I want to know whether it is a good time to
> upgrade to Big Sur or not. I want to know about issues in general
> interaction with the OS and specifically Safari, Terminal, Keynote, Pages
> and Numbers.
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Re: say all in google chrome and other apps

[Chris Westbrook]

Well in case anyone cares, I called apple accessibility today and they were
just as perplexed as I was. Toggling track pad commander off and on again
seemed to have fixed it. Not sure why, but it is behaving now.

On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 7:13 AM Chris Westbrook 
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> I was wondering if anyone has noticed that it is really hard to stop
> voiceover during a say all vo+a? I tried hitting control, but it just keeps
> on going. I've tried doing a two finger single tap on the trackpad with
> the same results. It seems like I have to do something like going to a new
> tab or another mac activity for it to stop. Not a huge deal, but I was
> curious if other people were running into this.
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Re: confused with pages

[Chris Westbrook]

Thanks for the  tutorial recommendation. I did solve my initial problem, I
had to interact with the document layout area twice to get to the actual
document. I'm still going to read the tutorial. Thanks again.

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> Yes https://mosen.org/mymacpages/
>
> On 31 Dec 2020, at 10:29, 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries <
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> I believe the book is still on the Mosen.org website.
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> Hi,
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> In 2016 Anne & Archie Robertson had published a tutorial on Pages.  I
> can’t remember where you could buy it from but maybe googling might help?
> It was a very good tutorial and it should still be relevant.
>
>
> On 30 Dec 2020, at 20:19, Chris Westbrook  wrote:
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> I am confused when I try to open a docs file in pages. I seem to have a
> document layout area that shows all of the pages, but I can't seem to edit
> text in that. I opened the document in text edit and it read fine as
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say all in google chrome and other apps

[Chris Westbrook]

I was wondering if anyone has noticed that it is really hard to stop
voiceover during a say all vo+a? I tried hitting control, but it just keeps
on going. I've tried doing a two finger single tap on the trackpad with
the same results. It seems like I have to do something like going to a new
tab or another mac activity for it to stop. Not a huge deal, but I was
curious if other people were running into this.

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confused with pages

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I am confused when I try to open a docs file in pages. I seem to have a
document layout area that shows all of the pages, but I can't seem to edit
text in that. I opened the document in text edit and it read fine as
expected. Is there a good tutorial on pages or is there something I'm
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Re: additional voices?

[Chris Westbrook]

I like Tom also. I have a hearing impairment and find his deep voice the
most intelligible.
On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 10:55 AM dan d.  wrote:

>
> I find alex a bother, too cute by far with those distracting attempts to
> sound human but missing the mark.
>
> I use tom which has none of the alex faults but perfectly intelligible and
> does not draw attention to itself; like most of the other voices.
>
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Chris Westbrook wrote:
>
> > I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional
> > voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he
> > doesn't speak clearly. haha.
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Re: I'm reading very long documents on my Mac?

[Chris Westbrook]

I think you are looking for vo+a for read all. This should read from the
cursor to the end of the document. Hope this helps.

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 8:43 PM Maurice Mines  wrote:

> I DES you are simply this, how do I read it in a document from beginning
> to end. In this case it is a  magazine. So it is definitely longform
> reading and what I'm looking for is the exact voiceover keystroke that will
> allow me to do this? I'm happy to know you use textedit if it were to use
> it. Thank goodness texted it reads word d documents. Because that's 99.9%
> of the reading but gets downloaded that our download it. Another words the
> bottom line here years what voiceover I keystroke well allow me to read
> continuously from the beginning of the document to the end of the document.
> That's the main the reason for the questions.
>
> Please note I set my comments above our mind, they do not reflect the
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>
> On Dec 29, 2020, at 01:26, Brandon Olivares 
> wrote:
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> I don’t understand the issue? I generally just use TextEdit, and haven’t
> encountered any issues with it.
>
> “Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven” – Satan, from Milton’s
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> I've heard of several potential ways of doing this but none of them are
> working. So I'm looking for suggestions? I am using a 2020 MacBook Pro
> running Big Sur 11.1. Add anyone found anything to be affective? My
> wordprocessing possibilities in terms of applications to read this document
> are Microsoft word but the Mac, or tax edit. Along time ago I had pages but
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Re: additional voices?

[Chris Westbrook]

Thanks Jonathan. I found them, I was just not vo-right arrowing over to the
voices when I interacted with the table. Oops. Lesson learned.

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 5:03 PM Karen Lewellen 
wrote:

>   Jonathan,
> Do you know if any details about each voice is provided..anywhere?
> Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.?
> Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice distinctive from
> each   other besides the name.
> That such a number exists is honestly astonishing.
> Karen
>
>
>
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>
> > There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from
> Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of
> VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be
> "customize".
> > Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has
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> Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button
> accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices
> the next time it checks for updates.
> >
> >   Best wishes,
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook 
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Re: additional voices?

[Chris Westbrook]

I meant to say is this something to do with the macbook air and the m1
chip? Probably so.

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 1:16 PM Chris Westbrook 
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> I am really confused, because the help system says the same thing, but in
> voiceover utility all I ihave is language and mute speech. No voice
> selector and no customize. Not sure where I am going wrong. Is this
> something to do with the new macbook air and the m
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM Jonathan Cohn 
> wrote:
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>> There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from
>> Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of
>> VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be
>> "customize".
>> Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a
>> checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in
>> VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. The
>> Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button
>> accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices
>> the next time it checks for updates.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook  wrote:
>>
>> I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional
>> voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he
>> doesn't speak clearly. haha.
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Re: additional voices?

[Chris Westbrook]

I am really confused, because the help system says the same thing, but in
voiceover utility all I ihave is language and mute speech. No voice
selector and no customize. Not sure where I am going wrong. Is this
something to do with the new macbook air and the m

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:39 AM Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

> There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as downloads from
> Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the Speech category of
> VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item in the pop-up list this will be
> "customize".
> Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each voice has a
> checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be enabled for use in
> VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a play, cancel, and a OK button. The
> Play button lets you hear a sample of the selected voice. The OK button
> accepts any changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices
> the next time it checks for updates.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
> On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook  wrote:
>
> I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional
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> doesn't speak clearly. haha.
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additional voices?

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I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are there additional
voices for purchase or free? Just wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he
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Re: Amadeus pro playback question

[Chris Moore]

Brandon,
Thanks for the help.  I always like simple answers!  Have a great Christmas.
Chris

> On Dec 22, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Brandon Olivares  
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> I find it helps if you press esc first, then it seems to work reliably.
> 
> Brandon
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>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
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>> Hello,
>> When I open a song in Amadeus Pro, pressing space does not start playback.  
>> Do I need to be focused on a particular area on the screen?
>> 
>> Chris
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Amadeus pro playback question

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
When I open a song in Amadeus Pro, pressing space does not start playback.  Do 
I need to be focused on a particular area on the screen?

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Re: Transfering music from iPhone to Mac laptop

[Chris Moore]

I saw a comment in this thread about library sync.  How does this work if my 
mac music library would not fit on my iPhone?  

Chris

> On Dec 12, 2020, at 10:58 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> If what you want to do is add new content to your Music library on your Mac, 
> do the following:
> 1.  Open your Home folder using CMD + Shift + H.
> 2.  Navigate to Music > iTunes > iTunes Media.
> 3.  In this folder, you will find a folder called Automatically Add to Music. 
>  this is where you should copy items that you want to add to your Music 
> library.
> The next time you open the Music app on your Mac, the contents of this folder 
> will be added to your library.
> Note:  Since you upgraded your Mac from an earlier version of macOS, you will 
> also have a folder called Automatically Add to iTunes.  This folder is left 
> over from the earlier version of the macOS, and should not be used since 
> iTunes has been replaced by the Music app in Catalina.
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> HTH.
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> - Brad -
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> On Dec 12, 2020, at 19:45, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> I could use dropbox but then how would I move my files into the music app?
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>> On Dec 12, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
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>> the “method" I described works only for syncing a music library between 
>> Apple devices.
>> If you want to transfer other content between your Mac and your iOS device, 
>> I recommend using a cloud storage service like iCloud Drive or Dropbox.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2020, at 17:57, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> can I use the method you describe to transfer something from my Mac to my 
>> phone? could I copy and paste?
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 1.  You might try using the Sync Library feature in the Music app on both 
>>> your iPhone and Mac.  This does not require a paid subscription to the 
>>> Apple Music service.
>>> 
>>> To enable this feature on your iPhone, go to Settings > Music, and look for 
>>> the Sync Library toggle, and make sure it is turned on.
>>> 
>>> On your Mac, go to the Music app, and open Preferences using CMD + comma.  
>>> Once in the Music app’s Preferences, select the General tab from the 
>>> toolbar, then navigate to the Sync Library checkbox, and make sure it is 
>>> checked.
>>> 
>>> Once this has been done on both devices, your library will sync in the 
>>> cloud.  this may take a while, so be patient.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Beginning with macOS Catalina, iTunes is no more, and has been replaced 
>>> with separate Music, TV and Podcast apps.  Another change in Catalina, is 
>>> how your iOS device is connected to your Mac.  This is now done through 
>>> Finder.
>>> a.  Connect your iOS device to your Mac using theLightning to USB charging 
>>> cable.
>>> b.  Open any Finder window (such as your Home folder, using CMD + Shift + 
>>> H).
>>> c.  Navigate to the Sidebar, and locate your iOS device.
>>> d.  Navigate to the folder view area,, and you should find information 
>>> about your iOS device that is very similar to what was displayed in iTunes.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2020, at 13:55, Tod Fassl >> <mailto:fassl@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've been googling and if I am not mistaken, there is no easy way to 
>>> transfer music from my iPone to my Mac laptop, right? It's easy if you pay 
>>> for it by subscribing to Apple Music but there's no easy/free way as far as 
>>> I can tell.
>>> 
>>> I got a new Mac laptop, plugged in my iPhone, and was surprised to find 
>>> that it didn't do anything. The old Mac opened iTunes automatically and 
>>> allowed me to transfer stuff back & forth.
>>> 
>>> So now I seem to be kind of SOL. Years ago I painstakingly ripped all my 
>>> CDs. That took weeks. I bought some songs  from Amazon. There are hundreds 
>>> of songs in all. I want to make some new playlists and I'd prefer to do 
>>> that on the laptop where I have a regular keyboard, etc.
>>> 
>>> Are there any benefits to Apple Music besides allowing me to get my music 
>>> off my phone? I'm not a big streaming music guy. I buy songs and make my 
>>> own playlists.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 

bookReader for mac

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
Has anyone experimented with book readers on the mac other than iBooks?  I saw 
bookreader on the app store but don’t want to spend the money if it doesn’t 
work.

Chris

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finder moving to the bottom of a list of files

[Chris Moore]

Hello
When navigating through a list of files with the arrow keys, the cursor 
periodically jumps to the bottom of the list for no apparent reason.  Is there 
any way to stop this from happening?

Chris

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"just press record" on apple watch

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Hello,
I’m trying to use Just Press Record on the watch but can’t figure out how to 
eliminate the voiceOver prompts from the recording.  Any thoughts?

Chris

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iPhone: strange voiceOver utterance

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
When my iPhone is locked, I occasionally hear voiceOver say something like:
“showing page 1 of 57”.

I haven’t done much to investigate but would be glad to discover a way to shut 
it off.

Chris

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Re: Creating A temporary UrL?

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No.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Searching in mail

[Chris Moore]

Hi Tim,
I go into the toolbar, move to the far right,
and vo says “search more items pop-up button”
Then I hit VO + space and it says “menu”.

Basically, I can’t find any text area to enter the search criteria.

Chris

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> Hi,
> 
> From the front screen of the Mail app, interact with the Toolbar, navigate 
> right to find the Search field and enter your criteria there.  If there's no 
> search field, let me know, as that's a not uncommon problem that has happened 
> with some when upgrading to Catalina.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
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> On Feb 21, 2020, at 11:15, Chris Moore  <mailto:chris.w...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I’m trying to search for messages in mac mail.  I can’t figure this out using 
> VO.  
> 
> Any help appreciated.
> 
> Chris
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Searching in mail

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Hello,
I’m trying to search for messages in mac mail.  I can’t figure this out using 
VO.  

Any help appreciated.

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Re: Braille blaster - creating a braille file?

[Chris Moore]

Hi ET,
I’m converting txt files into brf files.  You open the txt file witn cmd + o 
and locate the Save BRF/PEF in the file menu.  
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

Chris

> On Feb 14, 2020, at 2:40 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   Standard 'new file' command is command plus n. Look on the menu bar.
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> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
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> On 2/14/2020 11:18 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I’ve just started playing with braille blaster on the mac.  I’d like to 
>> create a Braille file, but the only option seems to be to send it to an 
>> embosser, which I don’t have.
>> I haven’t read the docs yet but was hoping someone on this list would have 
>> some suggestions.
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Braille blaster - creating a braille file?

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Hello,
I’ve just started playing with braille blaster on the mac.  I’d like to create 
a Braille file, but the only option seems to be to send it to an embosser, 
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I haven’t read the docs yet but was hoping someone on this list would have some 
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entering names in facetime on the mac

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Hello,
When entering a name in FaceTime, VO doesn’t read the dropdown menu to select 
the person.  Has anyone else experienced similar behavior?

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Orbit Reader feedback

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Hello,
Is the Orbit Braille Reader available and does it connect to the Mac / iPhone?

Any feedback would be helpful: good or bad.

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Answering a call on the mac?

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Hello,
When the phone rings, you want to answer it quickly without getting flustered!  
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Re: Is iTunes broken for VO users?

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Thanks for your input.  I found myself in a situation where I had to hit the 
back button to restore the usual on-screen info.

Chris
> On Aug 12, 2019, at 1:16 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> It works fine for me in Mojave, High Sierra, and El Capitan.later...
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>> On Aug 11, 2019, at 5:47 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
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>> It works fine for me on the iPhone as well. What device are you trying to 
>> use it on, and what information are you having trouble finding.
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>>> On 12/08/2019, at 11:36, Chris Moore  wrote:
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>>> Hello,
>>> I don’t use iTunes very often.  I just went in to look for an album in my 
>>> library.  Maybe it works, but VO shows me nothing useful.
>>> 
>>> Maybe Apple is aware of this, but fortunately there are other music players 
>>> we can use!
>>> 
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Is iTunes broken for VO users?

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Hello,
I don’t use iTunes very often.  I just went in to look for an album in my 
library.  Maybe it works, but VO shows me nothing useful.

Maybe Apple is aware of this, but fortunately there are other music players we 
can use!

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highlighting text in screenshot

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Hello,

I need to do some screenshots on a  selected rectangular portion of the screen. 
 I’m looking for suggestions.  If a sighted person could help set hotspots, 
what sequence of voiceOver keys would I use to perform the highlighting?

Would I need to use mouse keys?

TIA

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Re: Iphone XR.

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I’m pleased with the Otterbox.  You also need a screen protector.
Chris

> On Jan 30, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Any good  protection for the Iphone XR.
> I actually will get mine tomorrow or on friday maybe.
> I got it on a data plan but i do want some good protection.
> Maybe the otterbox defender case.
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Copying web links to your desktop

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Hello,
How do you copy a web location to the desktop?  I can save a bookmark but can’t 
locate the list of bookmarks.
I use both chrome and safari.

Chris

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Re: Apple Watch - wake screen and siri

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Hello,
What I’ve discovered is you need a special motion to activate siri.  First, you 
raise your arm in front of you almost to mouth level keeping your elbow 
straight.  Then you turn your wrist toward your mouth while you move the watch 
in that direction.  Think of it as raising the watch out and over to your 
mouth.  Raising the watch directly toward your mouth doesn’t work.  My wife who 
is sighted had difficulty until I showed her the technique.
I think you’ll like it once you learn the correct motion.  Also, it is easier 
when you are standing starting with the watch down by your side.

Chris

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Re: Deleting contacts from iCloud on the mac?

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Hi Matt,
The first question I would ask is how did you get double contacts on your 
phone?  You may have an extra source of contacts on your phone.  If your mac 
and phone are pulling contacts ONLY from iCloud, then they should match.  Your 
phone may be accessing an additional source of contacts.  You can check this is 
your contacts app.

Chris

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> Hi folks, subject says it all.
> I have double contacts on my phone.
> What I was thinking, is to delete the contacts from iCloud, then reimport 
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Apple Watch - wake screen and siri

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Hello,
I broke down and purchased a series 3 watch during the Apple sale.  It is much 
more responsive than the series 0 which I am turning in for $25.

What are the best settings for the wake screen?  

Raise to speak siri only works some of the time.  Are there any tricks to 
getting siri to respond?  Perhaps holding the digital crown is more reliable.

TIA
Chris

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Re: Selecting photos to add to an album?

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I could use instructions for either ios or mac, but I’ll probably be doing it 
onthe mac.
Chris

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> On Mac or iOS?
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> Later...
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> Tim Kilburn
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> On Nov 25, 2018, at 19:11, Chris Moore  <mailto:chris.w...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Hello,
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Selecting photos to add to an album?

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Hello,
I need to select some photos to add to an album.  Is there a way to do this 
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Apple watch series 3 or 4 - accessibility?

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I’m looking for feedback on the new watches.  How accessible are they?  More 
specifically, is it easy to answer and make phone calls?  Does the watch 
announce the name or number of the caller?

I have some interest in getting either a series 3 or 4, but for the price, the 
accessibility will have to be very good.  

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pages - sorting a table

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Hello,

How can I sort a table in pages?  I have Ann Robertson’s book but couldn’t find 
an answer on a quick reading.  Maybe there’s something in the appendices.

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Re: google chrome - entering passwords with VO

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Many thanks to Tim and Andrew.  The tab key seems to do a good job of focusing 
on the text boxes.  
I found that the alexa web page is far more accessible than the alexa app on 
the iPhone.  Entering contacts was a breeze whereas the alexa app was 
problematic.

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google chrome - entering passwords with VO

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Hello,
I was trying o log into the alexa.amazon.com <http://alexa.amazon.com/> page.  
I landed on the password field but couldn’t type in the password.  Do I need to 
click the mouse?

TIA
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App Cleaner help

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Hello,

Is app cleaner accessible?  I downloaded app cleaner, but not sure whether it 
works with VO.  They talk about dropping an application in the window, but drag 
and drop failed with VO.  
Has anyone had success with this app?

Chris

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Making Chrome the default browser?

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Hello,
How do I make Chrome the default browser on my mac?  Do I need to change all 
the filetypes that Safari would otherwise use?

Thanks
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Re: jaws, or NVDA with VMware fusion

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Maria,
An external USB keyboard is the easiest approach.  You can use it when in 
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Re: Running Ubuntu in vmware fusion.

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Hello,
I haven’t tried this in vmware, but as I recall, there are keystrokes for 
switching between consoles.
Unless it has changed, Ubuntu has six text consoles  accessed with ctrl+alt+f1 
through control+alt+f6 and the graphical console with ctrl+alt+f7

On the mac, ctrl+alt would equate to ctrl+option which is the VO key.  So I 
would try turning VO off in fusion before trying the above keystrokes to switch 
consoles.

Chris

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> Hello,
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> I gave up on it two years ago and haven’t tired since. When I tried to start 
> the screen reader in the linux variant you mention, it just beeped and then 
> nothing else happened. Though I have to say I haven’t used Linux since the 
> ability to read the screen left me. 
> 
> Sorry for the bad phrasing there, but in any case I would love a step by step 
> from  somebody on getting a Linux environment speaking within a Macintosh VM.
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>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>> HI!
>> I have a small problem when i run ubuntu in vmware fusion.
>> I can not toggle between the graphical environment and the text consoles in 
>> Ubuntu.
>> And there seems to be no sollution for it.
>> I have tried to search on google for a sollution but only found one for 
>> vmware workstation.
>> So if someone is using linux with vmware fusion i would like to have some 
>> help.
>> Thanks in advance.
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Re: Boot from Windows disc in Fusion

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Can’t you bring up the windows disk in windows explorer and run the setup.exe 
program?
Chris

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Re: Delay after "welcom to voicdOver" message

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Hello,
Just for something to try, I reset the energy saver preferences to factory 
defaults and the situation improved considerably.  I have a hard drive in this 
mac mini with no SSD.
I’ll continue monitoring the situation.

Thanks for all you responses.

Chris

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>> As others have mentioned, I would suspect a piece of code that is waiting 
>> forI/O probably network based that is not occurring or takes a while to get 
>> in sync. If you turn off WiFi and disconnect any physical ethernet 
>> connections to you still have a delay? Usually on my systems I get a few 
>> mentions of applications starting in background and if I have been lazy and 
>> have a dozen applications running that can take a while.
>> Also, on my work system I always get a delay when logging in, but then after 
>> the delay a warning dialog box appears stating that a network disk failed to 
>> connect.
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>>> Hello,
>>> After I hear the welcome to voiceOver message, there is a long delay (at 
>>> least 2 minutes) before I can open apps or use the finder.  I’d like to 
>>> understand what is causing this delay and whether I can do anything about 
>>> it.
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>>> TIA
>>> Chris
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Delay after "welcom to voicdOver" message

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Hello,
After I hear the welcome to voiceOver message, there is a long delay (at least 
2 minutes) before I can open apps or use the finder.  I’d like to understand 
what is causing this delay and whether I can do anything about it.

TIA
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Audio Hijack and iTunes question

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Hello,
I want to convert some iTunes music to different formats using audio hijack.  
My question is how to copy the tags from the existing files.  Does audio hijack 
do this or would I need to use applescript?

Chris

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Re: You Tube downloader?

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Robert,
There are installation instructions on the youtube-dl webpage.  You basically 
copy and paste a couple  commands into a terminal.

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Re: Reading the Bible on the mac

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Andrew,
I use the BibleGateway website on the Mac.  
Chris

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> I’d like to be able to read the Bible on my mac, search it, resume where I 
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> What may be your recommendations?
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How to access youTube album information?

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
When listening to albums on youTube, I can’t access the listing of tracks.  I 
believe this used to be possible, but lately, all I can do is play the album 
with no accompanying album info.  This is using safari.  Has anyone figured out 
an accessible way  to view the album info?

Chris

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Re: Howto save web page to desktop?

[Chris Moore]

Hello E.T,
I was able to accomplish this with drag and drop as follows:

1. stop interacting with the desired webpage.
2.  interact with the safari toolbar
3.  Navigate to the address bar.
4.  Drag the item with VO comma.
5.  Switch applications to the finder desktop with command tab.
6.  drop the item with VOO shift comma or VO shift period.
7.  You can edit the description of the webpage by hitting enter and editing 
the filename.

Your method probably works, but it involves creating a .wloc file (possibly 
using the terminal).

Chris

> On Feb 17, 2018, at 8:30 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
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>   Add these two lines to a text file. Edit the URL.
> 
> [InternetShortcut]
> URL=http://www.apple.com
> 
>   Press enter. End the filename with .url.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/17/2018 11:45 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I’m trying to save a link to a web page to my desktop.  I think I’ve done 
>> this in the past but can’t remember how!
>> TIA
>> Chris
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Howto save web page to desktop?

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Hello,
I’m trying to save a link to a web page to my desktop.  I think I’ve done this 
in the past but can’t remember how!

TIA
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Re: SSH into my mac does not work properly.

[Chris Moore]

Did you allow your mac to accept remote logins?  This is done in system 
preferences, sharing.  It also shows the format of the ssh command.  This 
command looks like”:
ssh user@computer-name
When prompted for the password you would enter the password for your mac user.

HTH 
Chris

> On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Bill Gallik <wfgal...@icloud.com> wrote:
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> I wonder, are you using the  key after typing in your password?
> 
> My thought is that you may need to terminate the password string with a line 
> feed rather than a carriage return (M rather than J).
> 
> It’s been a lot of years since I worked on a UNIX system, but if memory 
> serves me correctly the carriage return and the line feed are treated as 
> different animals.
> 
> I think you may be able to use the line feed by entering M.
> 
> I’d be curious if this helps, please let me know?
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - "Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their 
> guard and give you an opportunity to commit more."
> - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
> 
> On Feb 7, 2018, at 1:37 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se 
> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
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> Hi!
> I have a Linux machine with braille and i want to perform tasks on my macbook 
> air using ssh from that linux machine since terminal and voiceover isn’t the 
> best combination.
> I have not compiled brltty yet onto the mac so i have to ssh into it.
> However when i type ssh and then the ip addres i am asked for the password.
> I enter the password and press enter.
> Then i am asked for the password again and i enter it again and so on.
> I know there’s something wrong i do but i can not figure out what.
> SSH is not blocked on my network so it should work.
> I am not really familiar with setting up public keys even though this might 
> be the best.
> Can anyone please help me out?
> Thanks in advance.
> /A
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Re: Audio Hijack - deleting sessions

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Alax,
Thanks.  It works as advertised.  

Chris

> On Jan 7, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
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> Simply move to the session and press cmd-delete. You'll be prompted to 
> confirm; press enter to delete, as that is the default button. Of course, you 
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>> On Jan 7, 2018, at 16:50, Chris Moore <chris.w...@gmail.com 
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>> Hello,
>> Has anyone found a way to delete sessions in audio hijack?  I have several 
>> which I no longer need but can’t figure out how to remove them  with VO.
>> 
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Audio Hijack - deleting sessions

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Hello,
Has anyone found a way to delete sessions in audio hijack?  I have several 
which I no longer need but can’t figure out how to remove them  with VO.

Chris

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Re: High Seria - everything in finder identified as a "group"

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Gerry,
Thanks for checking with Apple Accessibility.  Switching to list mode does 
help.  However, I’m so used to working with column view that I may just live 
with the annoyance for now.

Chris
> On Dec 11, 2017, at 2:17 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
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>   That I do get. Its normal because you can have many types of data on the 
> desktop. Drives, folders, web sites, documents, etc.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
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> On 12/11/2017 9:50 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> On the finder desktop i can hear VoiceOver say group but its empty ofcorse.
>> /A
>>> 11 dec. 2017 kl. 02:27 skrev Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com>:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm not experiencing that issue.  I don't recall having the issue either 
>>> when I first upgraded.  Not sure what's going on for you though.  Maybe a 
>>> restart might fix it.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Dec 10, 2017, at 18:24, Chris Moore <chris.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I just upgraded to HS and noticed something different in the finder.  
>>> voiceOver identifies almost everything as a group rather than as a folder, 
>>> application or other file type.  Is there a setting to change/correct this 
>>> behavior?
>>> 
>>> Chris
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High Seria - everything in finder identified as a "group"

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Hello,
I just upgraded to HS and noticed something different in the finder.  voiceOver 
identifies almost everything as a group rather than as a folder, application or 
other file type.  Is there a setting to change/correct this behavior?

Chris

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iPhone X face id for totally blind users

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Hello,
Does face id work for blind users or is it looking for useable eyes?

Chris

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Re: You Tube downloader?

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
I just ran youtube-dl from the terminal to extract mp3.
You don’t need homebrew to install it.  The terminal command looks something 
like:
youtube-dl —extract-audio —audio-format mp3 url

You can get the url by  going into youtube in safari,
locating the desired song,
use the copy link in the shortcut menu
and paste it into the terminal command with cmd+v

HTH
Chris
> On Nov 5, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> You can find info at:
> https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ <https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/>
> You can install it with Homebrew.
> Devin Prater
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> JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World 
> Services for the Blind
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> 
> 
>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net 
>> <mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Where can I find info about youtube dl?
>> Peace,   
>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>>  
>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net <mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>
>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com 
>>> <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, that’s good. I looked at Downy, and I think I’ll just stick with 
>>> Youtube-dl. Far less expensive.
>>> Devin Prater
>>> Assistive Technology Instructor in Training
>>> JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World 
>>> Services for the Blind
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 2:31 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   Downie will do this. I have not installed the app yet but the site 
>>>> states that you can do this.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . ..
>>>>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>  and say God did it" --Carl Sagan
>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/5/2017 12:09 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
>>>>> Do any of these allow one to download only the audio of the video?
>>>>> Devin Prater
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>>>>> Services for the Blind
>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Jürgen Fleger <mailinglis...@fleger.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:mailinglis...@fleger.net><mailto:mailinglis...@fleger.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:mailinglis...@fleger.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Robert, Chuck and Andrew,
>>>>>> thanks for your great ideas. Really helpful.
>>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 26.10.2017 um 17:31 schrieb Robert Cole <mr.robertc...@icloud.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:mr.robertc...@icloud.com><mailto:mr.robertc...@icloud.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:mr.robertc...@icloud.com>>>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> Lately, I have been pressing command R To reload the page when a add 
>>>>>>> starts to play, then my video will start.
>>>>>>> I haven’t had any trouble so far.
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2017, at 8:31 AM, Jürgen Fleger <mailinglis...@fleger.net 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:mailinglis...@fleger.net><mailto:mailinglis...@fleger.net 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:mailinglis...@fleger.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OK, thanks for the responds.
>>>>>>>> What I don’t like about the You Tube site are the ads at the 
>>>>>>>> beginning. I know I somehow could skip them but acutally I’m not sure 
>>>>>>>> which would be the best way to find the skip button quickly. Do you 
>>>>>>>> have a good strategy for this?
>>>>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 26.10.2017 um 13:56 schrieb jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>

High Sierra install question

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
If I upgrade my mac to high sierra, will I get the new apple filesystem?  
Or, do I need to reformat the drive with the new filesystem before doing the 
install.

Thanks
Chris

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Copying music to iPhone?

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Hello,
Any tips on copying music to the iPhone?  I’m trying to do it manually from an 
iTunes library.  How does one select albums and copy them to the iPhone?

TIA
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IOS 11 - deleting apps

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Hello,
The old trick of double-tap and hold to move and delete apps doesn’t seem to 
work on IOS 11.  Anyone else encounter this, and is there a work around?

Thanks
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Re: Apple Watch Series 3 Limited to 3G-Like Speeds on T-Mobile

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>From what I read, the slow speed was on the $10 per month plan.  If you paid 
>$20,  the speed would be greater.  It depends on what you are doing with your 
>watch when away from your iPhone.  

Chris

> On Sep 16, 2017, at 4:17 PM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If this was or is the case I will be canceling my pre-order! Would
> anyone mind telling me how would I go about paring my watch with my
> phone if I decide to not cancel?
> 
> On 9/15/17, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Rip off.
>> 
>> Apple Watch Series 3 Limited to 3G-Like Speeds on T-Mobile
>> MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Juli Clover
>> 
>> Apple's new Apple Watch Series 3 models support LTE and UMTS connectivity,
>> but on T-Mobile, LTE connection speeds won't be available. The carrier is
>> limiting the Apple Watch to a maximum speed of 512kb/s, which is more like a
>> 3G connection than an LTE connection.
>> 
>> The speed limitation is noted in T-Mobile's fine print, which says the
>> maximum wearables speed is 512kb/s. It's also noted on the pre-order page
>> when adding an Apple Watch Series 3 to your cart.
>> 
>> 
>> At issue is T-Mobile's ONE plan, which limits both tethering and all
>> wearable devices to 512kb/s. While most users are unlikely to be streaming
>> video or doing other tasks that require high connectivity speeds on the
>> Apple Watch, the Apple Watch is also unlikely to be a data hog, so it's
>> unclear why T-Mobile has this limitation in place.
>> 
>> A T-Mobile representative told MacRumors reader Tony that its "High Speed
>> Data with paired DIGITS" plan would provide 4G LTE data. DIGITS is priced at
>> $25 per month without autopay, and $20 per month with Autopay.
>> 
>> No other major carrier in the United States, including Sprint, Verizon, or
>> AT appears to be throttling Apple Watch speeds with their standard
>> unlimited plans.
>> 
>> All four of the carriers are charging the same $10 per month fee to add an
>> Apple Watch to an existing iPhone plan, and each one is offering a limited
>> time promotion that waives monthly fees for the first three months.
>> 
>> The LTE Apple Watch Series 3 models became available for pre-order early
>> this morning, with new devices slated to arrive on Friday, September 22, the
>> official launch date for the device.
>> 
>> Related Roundups: Apple Watch, watchOS 3, watchOS 4
>> Tag: T-Mobile
>> Buyer's Guide: Apple Watch (Buy Now)
>> 
>> Discuss this article in our forums
>> 
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>> 
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Re: Smart TV

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The original question was about auto switching HDMI inputs. If that's 
all you're missing you might want to consider and external switcher. I 
got a unit similar to this one from Sewell for our family home 
entertainment setup:


https://sewelldirect.com/switchdeck-hdmi-switch-by-sewell-3x1-distribution-amplifier-4k-at-60hz-3d-hdcp-22-444-chroma-

I have both my Mac mini and a bluray player connected and it 
automatically switches to the highest numbered active input. So the Mac 
is on port one, which means that by default it is usually sent to the 
display. The BluRay is on port 2 so when I turn it on the HDMI is 
automatically switched to that. After we're done watching a movie or the 
like I turn the BluRay player off and it switches back to the Mac. I 
have a slightly different unit than the link above because I needed one 
that splits out the audio to a separate TOSlink cable for my ancient 
Denon sound system that predates HDMI.


CB

On 8/11/17 3:40 PM, E.T. wrote:
Thanks Mary. Did not find the specific 5500 on Amazon but I am not in 
a hurry. This window shopping will keep my mind off certain world 
events. Too many models, even 720p which I did not expect to see.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/11/2017 9:12 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Yes. Pressing a button on the remote for the device that you want to 
switch to switches it there. It will even turn the TV on if the TV is 
off. I have DirecTV, and Amazon fire stick, and fourth generation 
Apple TV. I can't speak to the third generation one. Also, it seems 
to me that this ability to do this switching when you punch a button 
on the remote started happening after a recent firmware update. Why 
that should be, I haven't a clue. I will have to get the model number 
for you, as I don't remember it. And my sided partner is still 
sleeping. I am Magine my TV was on the opposite end of the Samsung 
spectrum from Scott. It is not 4K. And I think it's only a 32 inch 
screen. I do have a nice sound bar for it. I got it on sale at Best 
Buy sometime around the holidays. Quite honestly, if I were going to 
buy a TV now, I would want to know a lot more about the new Amazon TV 
set. I'm really impressed with the work that they're doing over there 
with voiceview. I think it has the best sound, and is the most 
flexible. But I don't know about the capability of the actual TV to 
do the thing you want to do. If That worked, and I were buying a TV 
now, I would not hesitate to get the Amazon one.


Mary


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On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:51 AM, E.T.  wrote:

Mary,
  Do you have the model number? With the Apple TV, if you want to 
switch back to it, what triggers that? Pressing a button on the remote?


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On 8/11/2017 8:42 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

I have a Samsung smart TV which I bought at the end of last year. 
It does what you are saying you would like yours to do. I can't 
swear that they all do it. Mine has three HDMI inputs, all full. 
And if I start doing something on one of the devices that's plugged 
into one of the HDMI ports, it switches there.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:26 AM, E.T.  wrote:

 Am I correct in thinking that with one of these TVs, it will 
switch to an active input source, such as Apple TV? Samsung brand? 
My current TV is 9 years old, might be time to replace it.


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Re: How iPhone 8 could change the wireless charging landscape - CNET

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I can't attest to the quality but Harbor Freight has a 5 watt solar 
charger for $40. The small cube AC converters are 5 watts (last I 
checked) so this should give a similar charge time in strong sun.


https://www.harborfreight.com/5-watt-foldable-solar-panel-charger-60449.html

CB

On 8/10/17 11:30 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I do ok but remember a lot of these options are free like the small solar 
chargers you get at trade shows in bags of swag.  You know me I like to offer 
solutions from free on up so that anyone can benefit regardless of their bottom 
line.  I don’t want to see technology in the hands of a few the digital divide 
is a very real thing and getting options available at all price points is 
important so nobody is left out.



On Aug 10, 2017, at 5:11 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

Scott, only you can do this kind of thing as you earn large sums of money, as 
you get paid well.  If you remember you said that to me.

Kawal.

On 10 Aug 2017, at 19:03, Scott Granados  wrote:

Simon, there’s lots of ways to skin this cat as they say.

For small money you can get portable solar chargers.  They make them from say 
the size of a cassette tape up to something that folds out of a huge case and 
takes up 10 SQFT or so.  Depending on your power needs you could charge 
anything from a small phone up to car batteries or more with the right unit.  
Costs range from free in the give away piles at trade shows for the small stuff 
up to a grand or so for larger portable units.
Another option is what I did.   I installed a generator that runs on 
natural gas.  I attach my gas feed from the street to the generator and then a 
transfer switch where the power comes in to the house.  If the power drops to 
the house the generator spins up, matches the AC phase coming out of the 
battery bank and then engages.  When on city gas I never need to worry about 
refueling because I’m pulling natural gas from the gas lines that feed my 
kitchen and pool heater etc.  I can however use a propane tank feed if I  want 
locally stored fuel in the event the city gas isn’t flowing.
Another option is batteries.  You can take marine deep discharge 
batteries and invert the power to get some AC power or run things natively off 
the 12V.  You can charge while power is available.
Solar over all is yet another option.  I had this in California.  You 
put panels on the roof and charge batteries in a reserve bank that way.  Gave 
me enough power to run my house fully and sell power back to the electric 
company during the day.  Also had 5 days of charge on the battery banks if I 
lost power and the sun wasn’t strong enough.  This can be expensive north of 
35000 US dollars but the government also gave subsidies at the time, yours may 
do the same thing.
Also for small money, you can buy a portable generator.  Honda makes 
these along with several others, caterpillar comes to mind and Huskvarna.  
Anywhere from a few hundred bucks on up and they can be as small as a bread box 
or old style portable TV.





On Aug 10, 2017, at 3:14 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

A difference wifi charging might make in case of emergencys,

My question is how do you charge your phone if there is a major power outage in 
your town during a storm or something?

If there is no power to your house or say star bucks, then how do you charge?
No power no charging.

I'm one of those who has no landline phone, I have only a mobile
My mobile has a geographically diverted landline number to my mobile but still 
I'm scscrewed if there is a natural disaster..


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How iPhone 8 could change the wireless charging landscape - CNET

My goodness!
Thanks for that read.
I am thinking how  helpful wireless charging  may be in emergency preparedness 
situations.
Although I may be missing something obvious, the article hints that the 
wireless  charging runs on radio waves?
As in electromagnetic spectrum?
A few years back we had an ice storm where the power was out for three days, 
much longer in some parts of the city.  Needless to say people tried charging 
products at their local Starbucks, but to prevent a strain  even that had to 
stop.
i still have, and will keep as long as possible, a land line phoneand a 
Sony walkman.  had I not,
I would have been totally housebound, and without any information about what  
was happening, in  December, on the top floor of a building with no heat.
I felt for people stuck with only cell phones, imagine what a difference 
wireless charging might make During flooding?
Kare



On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, M. Taylor wrote:


CNET News - Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 4:00 AM How iPhone 8 could
change the wireless charging landscape - 

Re: How iPhone 8 could change the wireless charging landscape - CNET

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I figured rectifiers could be pretty small, benefiting from the overall 
reduction in semiconductor sizes. That whole RF beam forming and antenna 
stuff gets beyond my basic electronics knowhow. Of course with Apple 
working with Cochlear, maybe someday the whole device will just be 
attached to the audio nerves.


https://apple.slashdot.org/story/17/08/05/1922201/how-apple-is-putting-voices-in-users-headsliterally

CB

On 8/10/17 11:36 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hey if I could be such a prolific inventor I’d talk to the birds too.:)
I think you have the basic idea although I think it’s a bit more 
complex than that.  I do know there are some key semiconductors involved in 
modern wireless charging.  As I understand it you’re using more of a radio wave 
conversion to power deal than pure inductance although I think some systems do 
work that way.  This reminds me more of the platforms where they propose 
putting a bunch of solar cells in orbit and then beaming down the power on high 
energy microwaves where they can be converted back to AC and dropped in the 
grid.
I think you can get bridge rectifiers in pretty small packages now that 
would fit in a phone.  Just amazing we’re even having this discussion.  I can’t 
wait until I have a phone with no ports what so ever.  No charging port, no 
headphone port, nothing but wireless interconnection.





On Aug 10, 2017, at 11:22 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Of course Tesla also like to talk to pigeons :) I assume the basic idea is that 
the phone becomes the secondary coil of a basic transformer setup and then 
needs to have some kind of internal rectifier to change the power back to DC. I 
always thought transformers and capacitors were heavy bulky things so I can see 
why it's taken a while to get this into a phone-sized package.

CB

On 8/10/17 1:30 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Let’s not forget that wireless power was Mr. Tesla’s dream that Thomas Edison 
derailed with his unfair business practices and not paying Tesla etc.

Who can say but if things were different we might be picking up energy from the 
air with antennas instead of using wires and plugs and outlets and all that 
infrastructure.  Remember Tesla wanted electricity to be beamed in to the air 
and available to everyone for free.  This is along the same lines.  I think of 
his work everytime I hear about these wireless charging systems.

Here’s another use, suppose you put wireless transmitters through out an 
airport.  Just by changing planes your phone in your bag or in your pocket will 
be charging.  Same with offices, coffee shops and all sorts of infrastructure.  
You might never need to plug in ever if you have chargers in all the right 
places.

Very exciting.
  

On Aug 10, 2017, at 12:22 AM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

My goodness!
Thanks for that read.
I am thinking how  helpful wireless charging  may be in emergency preparedness 
situations.
Although I may be missing something obvious, the article hints that the 
wireless  charging runs on radio waves?
As in electromagnetic spectrum?
A few years back we had an ice storm where the power was out for three days, 
much longer in some parts of the city.  Needless to say people tried charging 
products at their local Starbucks, but to prevent a strain  even that had to 
stop.
i still have, and will keep as long as possible, a land line phoneand a 
Sony walkman.  had I not,
I would have been totally housebound, and without any information about what  
was happening, in  December, on the top floor of a building with no heat.
I felt for people stuck with only cell phones, imagine what a difference 
wireless charging might make During flooding?
Kare



On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, M. Taylor wrote:


CNET News - Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 4:00 AM
How iPhone 8 could change the wireless charging landscape - CNET
As we approach the expected September iPhone event, the gadget world is
abuzz with questions: Will there be two new iPhones or three? How much will
the presumed high-end OLED model cost? Will facial recognition fully replace
Touch ID, or merely be an alternative? And: will the iPhone finally get
wireless charging?
But that last one is a loaded question because "wireless" charging is in the
eye of the beholder.
Sure, you can place a Samsung Galaxy and many other Android phones onto a
charging pad without having to plug the phone into any charging cable. And
those same pads are increasingly built into countertops at coffee shops,
burger joints and even furniture you can buy at Ikea. But those pads still
need to be plugged into a wall outlet. The wire is still there, it's just
not attached directly to the phone.

Some current iPhone battery cases, like Mophie's Juice Pack, include
wireless charging compatibility.
Sarah Tew/CNET
That's a roundabout way of saying "wireless charging" is basically a
misnomer. Except when it

Re: How iPhone 8 could change the wireless charging landscape - CNET

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Of course Tesla also like to talk to pigeons :) I assume the basic idea 
is that the phone becomes the secondary coil of a basic transformer 
setup and then needs to have some kind of internal rectifier to change 
the power back to DC. I always thought transformers and capacitors were 
heavy bulky things so I can see why it's taken a while to get this into 
a phone-sized package.


CB

On 8/10/17 1:30 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Let’s not forget that wireless power was Mr. Tesla’s dream that Thomas Edison 
derailed with his unfair business practices and not paying Tesla etc.

Who can say but if things were different we might be picking up energy from the 
air with antennas instead of using wires and plugs and outlets and all that 
infrastructure.  Remember Tesla wanted electricity to be beamed in to the air 
and available to everyone for free.  This is along the same lines.  I think of 
his work everytime I hear about these wireless charging systems.

Here’s another use, suppose you put wireless transmitters through out an 
airport.  Just by changing planes your phone in your bag or in your pocket will 
be charging.  Same with offices, coffee shops and all sorts of infrastructure.  
You might never need to plug in ever if you have chargers in all the right 
places.

Very exciting.
  


On Aug 10, 2017, at 12:22 AM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

My goodness!
Thanks for that read.
I am thinking how  helpful wireless charging  may be in emergency preparedness 
situations.
Although I may be missing something obvious, the article hints that the 
wireless  charging runs on radio waves?
As in electromagnetic spectrum?
A few years back we had an ice storm where the power was out for three days, 
much longer in some parts of the city.  Needless to say people tried charging 
products at their local Starbucks, but to prevent a strain  even that had to 
stop.
i still have, and will keep as long as possible, a land line phoneand a 
Sony walkman.  had I not,
I would have been totally housebound, and without any information about what  
was happening, in  December, on the top floor of a building with no heat.
I felt for people stuck with only cell phones, imagine what a difference 
wireless charging might make During flooding?
Kare



On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, M. Taylor wrote:


CNET News - Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 4:00 AM
How iPhone 8 could change the wireless charging landscape - CNET
As we approach the expected September iPhone event, the gadget world is
abuzz with questions: Will there be two new iPhones or three? How much will
the presumed high-end OLED model cost? Will facial recognition fully replace
Touch ID, or merely be an alternative? And: will the iPhone finally get
wireless charging?
But that last one is a loaded question because "wireless" charging is in the
eye of the beholder.
Sure, you can place a Samsung Galaxy and many other Android phones onto a
charging pad without having to plug the phone into any charging cable. And
those same pads are increasingly built into countertops at coffee shops,
burger joints and even furniture you can buy at Ikea. But those pads still
need to be plugged into a wall outlet. The wire is still there, it's just
not attached directly to the phone.

Some current iPhone battery cases, like Mophie's Juice Pack, include
wireless charging compatibility.
Sarah Tew/CNET
That's a roundabout way of saying "wireless charging" is basically a
misnomer. Except when it isn't: "True" wireless charging -- in which
batteries get juiced up at distances measured in meters, not centimeters --
is a real-world technology, too.
Wireless charging over a distance could be the real tech game changer,
allowing us to juice up our phones as soon as we walk into a room. The
technology is also a boon to the ever-increasing number of smart devices in
our lives, from portable speakers to hearing aids. It just needs to get over
the pesky questions over whether it's safe -- and actually show up in a
mass-market consumer device.
So, before we posit the question as to whether the next iPhones will include
wireless charging, let's start by untangling the different technologies that
Apple might incorporate.
Inductive charging: Qi vs. Powermat
Widely used for years in cordless electric toothbrushes, inductive charging
is the most common technology employed in most of today's "wireless"
charging devices and accessories. There are two major standards in the
space: Qi -- named for a Chinese word that means energy and is pronounced
"chee" -- and Powermat.
Both standards are also working to incorporate magnetic resonance
technology, which could charge over distances of up to 4 centimeters. That
would, for instance, mean that aligning your phone to the charging pad
"sweet spot" would be less of a hit-and-miss affair, or that the charging
pads could be hidden behind thin layers of wood or plastic.

The Samsung Galaxy S8 recharging on a Powermat inductive charger at a
Manhattan Starbucks.
Sarah 

Re: Huawei came really close to selling as many phones as Apple - CNET

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I'm sure Hershey and Godiva share some ingredients but there is a reason 
people pay more for one than the other. Once you get beyond CPU speeds 
and display types, the end user experience is king. Of course I've never 
really met a chocolate I didn't like.


CB

On 8/4/17 12:09 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Actually you know more about them than you think probably.  They manufactured 
the Nexus 6P I believe and they make many processors and other components.  
They have manufactured several phones sold in the uS though and they are quite 
good.


On Aug 4, 2017, at 12:09 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Huawei may make a fine phone, but I know nothing about it. In the end it's two 
different markets. I'm sure Nissan sells a whole lot more cars than BMW. Last I 
heard, roaches outnumber people as well :)

CB

On 8/3/17 7:50 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

CNET News - Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 12:12 AM
Huawei came really close to selling as many phones as Apple - CNET
  Huawei's phone sales rose 20 percent year over year in the second quarter.
César Salza/CNET
The gap in global phone sales between Apple and Huawei is smaller than ever.
Apple, the world's No. 2 phone seller by volume, sold 41 million iPhones in
the second quarter. Huawei, the No. 3 global phone brand thanks to its
popularity in China and Europe, sold 38.5 million phones during the same
period, Counterpoint Research said Tuesday.
Huawei's numbers are up 20 percent from the same quarter last year, while
Apple's year-on-year growth was 2 percent. Of course, the Cupertino,
California-based company has little to worry about. Though it sells fewer
phones than Samsung and may eventually fall behind Huawei, it has always
topped profit share. In 2016, Apple accounted for just under 80 percent of
all smartphone profits.
"Apple is the most profitable smartphone brand on the planet with highest
brand equity, however, it is in a conundrum," Counterpoint's Neil Shah told
CNET. Apple is losing ground in China, while brands like Huawei and Oppo are
becoming more popular. "Apple has been losing revenues in China since (the
2014) iPhone 6 (and) 6Plus launch, which was the peak for Apple in China,"
he said.
Oppo and Xiaomi, two other Chinese phone giants, also grew considerably. The
former sold 30.5 million phones in the second quarter, a 33 percent rise,
while the latter's 23.3 million was a 60 percent increase over the prior
year.
Samsung is still king though, with 80.4 million in phone sales in the
quarter. LG, its South Korean competitor, sold 13.3 million phones, 600,000
fewer than in the same quarter last year.

Original Article at:
https://www.cnet.com/news/huawei-came-really-close-to-selling-as-many-phones
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Re: Huawei came really close to selling as many phones as Apple - CNET

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Huawei may make a fine phone, but I know nothing about it. In the end 
it's two different markets. I'm sure Nissan sells a whole lot more cars 
than BMW. Last I heard, roaches outnumber people as well :)


CB

On 8/3/17 7:50 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

CNET News - Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 12:12 AM
Huawei came really close to selling as many phones as Apple - CNET
  
Huawei's phone sales rose 20 percent year over year in the second quarter.

César Salza/CNET
The gap in global phone sales between Apple and Huawei is smaller than ever.
Apple, the world's No. 2 phone seller by volume, sold 41 million iPhones in
the second quarter. Huawei, the No. 3 global phone brand thanks to its
popularity in China and Europe, sold 38.5 million phones during the same
period, Counterpoint Research said Tuesday.
Huawei's numbers are up 20 percent from the same quarter last year, while
Apple's year-on-year growth was 2 percent. Of course, the Cupertino,
California-based company has little to worry about. Though it sells fewer
phones than Samsung and may eventually fall behind Huawei, it has always
topped profit share. In 2016, Apple accounted for just under 80 percent of
all smartphone profits.
"Apple is the most profitable smartphone brand on the planet with highest
brand equity, however, it is in a conundrum," Counterpoint's Neil Shah told
CNET. Apple is losing ground in China, while brands like Huawei and Oppo are
becoming more popular. "Apple has been losing revenues in China since (the
2014) iPhone 6 (and) 6Plus launch, which was the peak for Apple in China,"
he said.
Oppo and Xiaomi, two other Chinese phone giants, also grew considerably. The
former sold 30.5 million phones in the second quarter, a 33 percent rise,
while the latter's 23.3 million was a 60 percent increase over the prior
year.
Samsung is still king though, with 80.4 million in phone sales in the
quarter. LG, its South Korean competitor, sold 13.3 million phones, 600,000
fewer than in the same quarter last year.

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Re: iRobot iPhone app

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Yup, Gizmodo was one of the sites that covered the privacy issue:

https://gizmodo.com/roombas-next-big-step-is-selling-maps-of-your-home-to-t-1797187829

CB

On 7/26/17 12:37 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

I just read an article where the manufacture of the rumba wants to sell the 
data collected to third-party individuals. They want to sell maps of your home. 
Really not sure about this.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 25, 2017, at 9:34 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m not sure the brand, it may be IRobot, but my friend has a lawn mower that 
works the same way, totally autonomous.  I have an autonomous system as well, 
they call them gardeners.:)



On Jul 25, 2017, at 9:03 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Which Roomba do you have? I've narrowed it down to the 880, 960 or 980.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iRobot iPhone app

I had a neato a few years ago, my dog didn't like it.  He could care less about 
the Roomba.  Wonder if there was a sound or something he just didn't like.
The Roomba needs no sighted assistance to set up.

Chris Grabowski
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:04:22 -0600
Yolanda Thompson <ylt...@gmail.com> wrote:


So we have had our Neato about 1 week.  It is pattern driven, where as
the IRobot just kinda goes round and round bouncing off of things.
The app is all accessible, except for (of course) the map.  Initial
setup you will need sighted assistance to read the front panel.
Everything else is very doable.


On 7/25/17, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
I just have a human cleaner to do my stuff for me as I can't afford
an I phone robot.  Also I would be scared in case my guide dog took
a disliking to it as she would bark and growl!  I just pay my
cleaner once a month and she does it all and I don't know how much
an I phone robot would cost and what would happen if the robot
didn't get paid, would it go on strike or faign a broken parts?

Kawal.

On 25 Jul 2017, at 14:26, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Bed Bath and Beyond is a US store that sells oddly enough home
goods.:)


On Jul 25, 2017, at 4:33 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

So that is what in USA dollars or euros?

And bed bath and beyond  what part of the world are you in?



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai
Bucciarelli
Sent: Tuesday, 25 July 2017 3:29 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iRobot iPhone app

$200 between the 960 and 980. $200 between the 880 and 960.
Bed Bath and Beyond is the best place to get one, especially if
you use one of their 20% off coupons.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rhonda
Partain
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 8:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iRobot iPhone app

So what's the price difference?
Rhonda

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai
Bucciarelli
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 8:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iRobot iPhone app

Hi:
Me too, have a guidedog that is a cross, and 2 long hair cats.
Acording to the review, they work great on dog hair. The 880. 890,
960, and 980 got the best reviews in regards to dog hairs. The 690
did okay in the dog hair reviews. The 800 and 900 have different
technology where the hair doesn't get caught in the rollers. I
just haven't decided on which to try. The 900 series have the longest battery 
life.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rhonda
Partain
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iRobot iPhone app

What about dog hair? I have a guide dog a golden retriever who
sheds  a pound of hair per day!!! Well, it's a lot.
Rhonda

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Granados
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iRobot iPhone app

They wor

Re: iRobot iPhone app

[Chris G]

I had a neato a few years ago, my dog didn't like it.  He could care
less about the Roomba.  Wonder if there was a sound or something he just
didn't like.
The Roomba needs no sighted assistance to set up.

Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
https://www.MysticAccess.com
Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually 
having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, 
one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely 
assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and 
discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more.
Contact:
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Facebook: mysticaccessempower


On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:04:22 -0600
Yolanda Thompson <ylt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So we have had our Neato about 1 week.  It is pattern driven, where as
> the IRobot just kinda goes round and round bouncing off of things.
> The app is all accessible, except for (of course) the map.  Initial
> setup you will need sighted assistance to read the front panel.
> Everything else is very doable.
> 
> On 7/25/17, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> > I just have a human cleaner to do my stuff for me as I can't afford an I
> > phone robot.  Also I would be scared in case my guide dog took a disliking
> > to it as she would bark and growl!  I just pay my cleaner once a month and
> > she does it all and I don't know how much an I phone robot would cost and
> > what would happen if the robot didn't get paid, would it go on strike or
> > faign a broken parts?
> >
> > Kawal.
> >> On 25 Jul 2017, at 14:26, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Bed Bath and Beyond is a US store that sells oddly enough home goods.:)
> >>
> >>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 4:33 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So that is what in USA dollars or euros?
> >>>
> >>> And bed bath and beyond  what part of the world are you in?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 July 2017 3:29 AM
> >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: iRobot iPhone app
> >>>
> >>> $200 between the 960 and 980. $200 between the 880 and 960.
> >>> Bed Bath and Beyond is the best place to get one, especially if you use
> >>> one of their 20% off coupons.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rhonda Partain
> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 8:02 PM
> >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: iRobot iPhone app
> >>>
> >>> So what's the price difference?
> >>> Rhonda
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 8:53 PM
> >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: iRobot iPhone app
> >>>
> >>> Hi:
> >>> Me too, have a guidedog that is a cross, and 2 long hair cats. Acording
> >>> to the review, they work great on dog hair. The 880. 890, 960, and 980
> >>> got the best reviews in regards to dog hairs. The 690 did okay in the dog
> >>> hair reviews. The 800 and 900 have different technology where the hair
> >>> doesn't get caught in the rollers. I just haven't decided on which to
> >>> try. The 900 series have the longest battery life.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rhonda Partain
> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 6:04 PM
> >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: iRobot iPhone app
> >>>
> >>> What about dog hair? I have a guide dog a golden retriever who sheds  a
> >>> pound of hair per day!!! Well, it's a lot.
> >>> Rhonda
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sco

Re: Can i make Mouse left click using my magic trackpad?

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

While there might be some gesture to do that, holding down the control 
key and clicking is the same as a right click.


CB

On 7/24/17 3:09 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Thanks so much Dear, and the right click sorry?


On 7/23/17, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello Ramy,

You can perform a physical mouse click with your trackpad as long as you
turn off the Trackpad Commander. Just press firmly on the trackpad to
click.
In the VoiceOver Utility, category Verbosity, in the Announcements tab, I
always : check the Speak text under mouse after delay checkbox and set the
delay to zero. This allows me to use the trackpad to move the mouse pointer
and hear where it is.

Cheers,

Anne




On 23 Jul 2017, at 08:39, Ramy Moustafa 
wrote:

Hello all:

I need to perform a physical Trackpad using my magic trackpad, because i
don’t have a real mouse, is there a way to do so?

Thanks in advance

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Re: mac HTML editor suggestion?

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

If you are just modifying the content then a simple text editor will 
work fine. In the end, unless there is some complex content management 
system behind the scenes, HTML files are just text. So you could open up 
the text file, wade through (and otherwise ignore) all the markup and 
just modify the text related to your address or the like. In other 
words, you can probably do this yourself.


CB

On 7/24/17 8:46 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
I am not doing the editing myself. Instead, as requested by the person 
doing the work, I asked for a program suggestion.
I certainly resonate  with the task being simple in text, but I do not 
judge the skills of others by assuming they match my own.

Thanks all,
Karen


On Mon, 24 Jul 2017, -dan d. wrote:



If that is all you want to change a simple text editor is the perfect 
tool.


A html editor would be overkill.

Html coding is plain text encased within a set of text characters to 
render

function and format when a browser encounters them.

On Sun, 23 Jul 2017, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 To the  best of my knowledge text editing is not the goal here.  
None of

 the
 page   coding will be changed, just my off ice address / number on the
 contacts page.
 Kare


 On Sun, 23 Jul 2017, Erik Burggraaf wrote:

>  Set text edit to use plain text instead of RTF. Then turn off all 
of the
>  special symbols, and you have a text editor for editing HTML. 
This is >  how I

>  did most of my code when I had a Mac.
> > >  On July 22, 2017 9:16:34 PM Karen Lewellen 
 >  wrote:

> >  Hi folks,
>  I have a friend who is a former apple staffer.  she is updating 
the >  contact
>  information on my website.  The site is done in  HTML, and she 
wants to

>  know a good html editor for the mac?
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Re: Which virtual machine software is accessible?

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I have been using Fusion for a long time and, as others have said, 
copying a virtual machine from one computer to the other has no impact. 
Now if I have that same virtual machine running concurrently on multiple 
physical desktops, the Windows license manager might get upset that it 
sees the same license number multiple times on the network. In my case 
my windows instances were installed using site licenses so this was not 
a problem.


CB

On 7/20/17 9:31 AM, Phil Halton wrote:

Simon, you're talking about virtual box. That maybe so but I was talking about 
VM fusion. Maybe things of changed and later versions of fusion but when I try 
to do that it blew out all the licensing including the OS and all of the 
software.

Sent from my IPhone



On Jul 20, 2017, at 6:47 AM, Michael Marshall  wrote:

is Fusion the only one that works with VO? i know Parallels did not last time i 
tested.


On 20 Jul 2017, at 8:12 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

But you can copy and paste the vm machine files on to another machine and it 
works fine.

I've been doing this with virtual box at work, makes life a lot easier to 
create one machine and move it to multiple mac machines

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Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2017 4:50 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Which virtual machine software is accessible?

Nickus, the short answer is no. The virtual machine is tied to the hardware 
signature of the device it was first installed on. This is done to control 
licenses etc. I tried running a VM on another machine once and all the licensed 
software failed requiring new licensing. This meant a new license for the 
operating system as well as for the Jaws synthesizer software. Also office 
suite required relicensing. The only way to run a VM on another machine that I 
am aware of is through the import process. When first opening the virtual 
machine into a new machine, virtual machine will ask if you want to move or 
copy the VM. If you select move, all the licensing is transferred over and will 
 only now work on that new machine. If you select copy you will get just that, 
a copy, but it will not run properly on the new machine without relicensing. 
Also, don't forget, the VM can  grow to in the neighborhood of 30 to 60 GB. And 
I don't know if you have that kind of iCloud storage account, but I sure don't. 
In fact I have set my Time Machine to exclude that particular virtual machine 
folder so as not to clutter up my disk.  Instead I simply manually copy the VM 
off onto a storage disk

Sent from my IPhone



On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

You can share images and copy then but I don’t think you can run them in 
parallel.


On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:03 AM, Nickus de Vos  wrote:

If using VMware to create a virtual machine it would be stored in my documents 
folder which gets synced up to iCloud. Would I then be able to run the virtual 
machine on both my iMac and Macbook since iCloud will sync it to both?

I guess I would just have to install VMware on both machines?

Thanks

Nickus

On 17 Jul 2017, at 17:25, Scott Granados  wr

+1 on VM fusion.  I hear parallels has recently become accessible but no idea 
first hand.  VM Fusion does everything I need and I’m a heavy user of 
parallelization software.


On Jul 17, 2017, at 2:33 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi

The most accessible VM software is vm Fusion but there is a price for it.

If you are only going to use the windows machine only once an a while then I'd 
recommend eiter Virtual box which is free but not as VO friendly as fusion,

Or install the windows OS into bootcamp and switch between them when you need 
to access windows.

The only problem with bootcamp is that you can only use one os at a time,

With fusion or virtual box you can run the mac os all the time and open the 
windows vm when you need it just like an application.
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Subject: Which virtual machine software is accessible?

Hi all
I want to put Windows 10 on my MBP for very occasional use and because I have a 
quad core i7 with 16 GB RAM, I think it will be fine if I run a virtual machine 
rather than Bootcamp.

Which virtual machine software is most accessible for use with Voiceover and 
easiest to use?

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Re: Conversation about Accessibility w/ Tim Cook of Apple | #GAAD

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I tried it with the Tim Cook interview and it seemed to work fine. The 
download took a while but it otherwise seemed to work.


CB

On 7/10/17 1:25 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Hi Chris,
Now that looks like a  handy on line tool.
Worth a test effort to be sure.
Thanks,
Kare


On Mon, 10 Jul 2017, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Could you use an online tool like

https://www.onlinevideoconverter.com/mp3-converter

and then download the mp3 it generates?

CB

On 7/9/17 4:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Hi,
 Would someone mind doing me a favor?
 I believe many here realize I am not fully an apple user for other
 physical reasons, some I am happy to say I am in the process 
transforming.
 Still, Scott, here in Canada accessibility is already a human 
right, truth

 be told it is also in the state of new York.
 Anyway, I am wondering if anyone would kindly  send me a transcript or
 mp3, or better yet .aif copy of that interview?
 I am presently at the Canadian human rights tribunal with a successful
 accessibility case against TD Bank, who has presence legally on 
both sides

 of the border.  I suspect there is something in that recording worth
 including in mediation documents I am preparing.
 One issue I find time and time again is how, even if well meaning, 
swiftly
 individuals, and companies  generalize access, i. e. all those  
sharing a

 label accommodate the same.  The terrific thing about seasoning the
 discussion with human right, is that it also includes individual human
 dignity, i. e. at the most basic levels, no two humans are the same 
even

 if they share the label of being human.
 Any takers?
 Thanks,
 Karen


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>  This was a very interesting listen.  I like the attitude of >  
accessibility being a human right.  Very interesting position from a 
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Re: Windstream versus Cox?

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Sounds like you'll feel right at home with a larger service provider :) 
Can't speak to Windstream but I've had Cox for years and they have 
generally been solid. I bought my own cablemodem so I didn't have to pay 
the rent for that and plugged that into an Apple AirPort. Had hiccups 
whenever the power burped but I added a UPS and now things are pretty 
flawless. I can't recall the last time I had an outage.


CB

On 7/10/17 10:31 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Well, I've already got the Winnstream blues. They hooked up our service late 
Thursday afternoon in less than 24 hours it had already gone down. And they're 
telling me that it won't be restored until Wednesday. I'm on impressed! I've 
spent hours on the phone with them and all calls have resulted in absolutely 
nothing. So, since I'm really not interested in giving our money to a company 
that thinks it's OK to leave customers without service for five days, I am 
thinking about switching to Cox.

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Windstream is a smaller company, out of Rhode Island oddly enough I think.  Cox 
is a pretty major cable provider. So you’ll probably get fewer services but 
more personal attention at wind stream and the big company blues but lots more 
options with Cox.  I would put a Cox cable in the category with a Comcast.


On Jul 10, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi all,

I'm dealing with getting new Internet service set up at our new house. I'm 
feeling a bit underwhelmed at the moment by Windstream, I'm considering Cox as 
an alternative. Just wondered if anyone on this list knew anything about either 
provider and had either good things or bad things to say about their 
experiences with them?
Thanks,
Donna

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Re: Conversation about Accessibility w/ Tim Cook of Apple | #GAAD

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Could you use an online tool like

https://www.onlinevideoconverter.com/mp3-converter

and then download the mp3 it generates?

CB

On 7/9/17 4:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Hi,
Would someone mind doing me a favor?
I believe many here realize I am not fully an apple user for other 
physical reasons, some I am happy to say I am in the process 
transforming.
Still, Scott, here in Canada accessibility is already a human right, 
truth be told it is also in the state of new York.
Anyway, I am wondering if anyone would kindly  send me a transcript or 
mp3, or better yet .aif copy of that interview?
I am presently at the Canadian human rights tribunal with a successful 
accessibility case against TD Bank, who has presence legally on both 
sides of the border.  I suspect there is something in that recording 
worth including in mediation documents I am preparing.
One issue I find time and time again is how, even if well meaning, 
swiftly individuals, and companies  generalize access, i. e. all 
those  sharing a label accommodate the same.  The terrific thing about 
seasoning the discussion with human right, is that it also includes 
individual human dignity, i. e. at the most basic levels, no two 
humans are the same even if they share the label of being human.

Any takers?
Thanks,
Karen


On Sun, 9 Jul 2017, Scott Granados wrote:

This was a very interesting listen.  I like the attitude of 
accessibility being a human right.  Very interesting position from a 
major tech player.



On Jul 9, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

Interview with Tim Cooke.

https://youtu.be/kXy8KcONTSs


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Re: upload speed very low

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What most people have is ADSL and the A stands for Asymmetric because 
there is greater bandwidth dedicated to stuff coming to you rather than 
outbound. It's a reasonable thing because most people send a small 
request like an URL and get back megabytes of data. How fast depends on 
how much you pay and how far you are from the central office. Last I 
checked, ADSL max download speed was about 9Mbps while upload maxed out 
at 640Kbps. Depending on distance you might never be able to achieve 
those throughputs, even if you pay for top tier ADSL. Likewise, if 
you're on a lower plan they will just cap the throughput on their 
routers to ensure you don't get more than you paid for. ADSL was a bit 
of a bandaid used by the telcos until they could get something more 
competitive rolled out. It uses the same copper wire plant as plain old 
telephone service so there is only so much they can do with it.


CB

On 7/10/17 10:02 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi Rhonda, you can’t with out QOS and I’d argue your connection is to slow to 
take much advantage of QOS anyway.  One thing you might do is up your plan 
depending on what DSL plan you’re on.  They may have a faster plan with more 
upload and download capacity but with DSL theres just not that much headroom.

I’m not sure geographically where you are but a wireless provider may 
be a way to go.  T-Mobile and Verizon both have very good networks and 
unlimited plans with as much as 60 megabits up and 400 down, maybe more 
depending where they are in their update cycle.  Also depends where in the 
world you’re located.

Hope that helps.


On Jul 9, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Rhonda Partain  wrote:

Yes, it does. But what if my router doesn't have  qos settings  how can I   say 
what gets priority the phone or web traffic?

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DSL is very limited in it’s upload speed assuming you’re using regular old ADSL 
from AT  At most you’re going to have a single megabit up or so and a few 
down, more likely you have 128 or 384K up which is a very small up channel.

QOS or quality of service doesn’t change your speed, it prioritizes what 
traffic uses the bandwidth that you have.  You might for example tag video and 
phone as most preferred because they are very time sensitive where as you might 
tag web traffic as less preferred because you’d rather have your page load a 
little more slowly if your on the phone so your call quality is preserved.  You 
only have what speeds you have available in your plan however.

Hope this helps clear things up.



On Jul 9, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Rhonda Partain  wrote:

Hello I  have  ATT DSL internet service  am getting very low upload
speeds
0.11  Mbps  highest I've seen is  0.30 Mbp I  was told routers have
QOS settings where you can set what  gets priority. My router does not
have  qos settings.  I  can't upgrade, no other  providers where I
live. Is there any way to help maximize  the upload speed? I work from
home  and this is affecting my ability to do my job.
Thanks for any  thoughts.

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Re: HTML Stream in iTunes

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Can you open the URL

http://direct.sharp-stream.com/original106.mp3

in iTunes to play the same thing?

CB

On 7/8/17 11:48 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Yes, an app would do the trick, as the app would be designed to deal with the 
html streaming, whereas iTunes is designed to use different protocols.  So far, 
the only thing I can suggest is to use a browser, but I'll check some more.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 8, 2017, at 13:58, Angus MacKinnon  wrote:

Tim

Thank you. Anything to suggest? It is interesting I have an App on my iPhone 
that will let me play this Radio Station and other Radio Stations from Scotland.

Angus MacKinnon



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Add your music with Google Play Music Manager - Google Play Help

[Chris Moore]

Mary,
Perhaps this might help although I have no idea whether the mac app is 
accessible.

Chris


> https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1075570?hl=en 
> <https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1075570?hl=en>

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Re: Removal of 3D Touch app switching gesture in iOS 11 confirmed as intentional change

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Mary,
When you go into a link from an e-mail, there is a return to mail button in the 
top left corner.  As far as returning to a previous app is concerned, we have 
an app switcher for that.

Chris

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Adding carriage returns to text file

[Chris Moore]

Hello,
I had the need to add carriage returns to a text file created on my mac so I 
could read it properly on my braille device.  After several hours of 
experimentation from articles found on google, I discovered that the only way 
to accomplish this was using the “vi” program in terminal.  Here are the steps:

1.  open the terminal program.
2.  interact with the terminal window with vo shift down-arrow.
3.  if the file is not in your home directory, change to the appropriate folder 
with the “cd” command.
4.  Open the file with the vi editor with “vi file”
5. type: “:set fileformat=dos” 
6.  Now save the file with “:wq”

Remember that the quotes around the above commands are NOT to be entered.

There may be other approaches, but this one is quite simple once you use it a 
few times.

Chris

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Re: Blume Wifi

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I have Gb internet at work and the only thing I've found that will fill 
the pipe is Apple updates. I think it's peaked at 112MB/s download 
getting an iOS update. Everything else seems to have bottlenecks 
elsewhere the cap the throughput.


CB

On 6/11/17 9:53 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
It’s hard to fill up a gigabit.  I use all sorts of parallel stuff 
streaming, gaming, phones, and so forth so the extra headroom just 
helps everything work smoothly.  I could probably get away with far less.


On Jun 11, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Simon Fogarty > wrote:


Scott,
I’m meant to have gigabit internet for my home but it’s a joke here 
in nz,

I’m lucky if I get half a gigabit for a download.
As for wifi I’m currently using a fritzbox as my router modem,
I’d love to have faster internet / wifi but hey lifes a bitch and 
we’re getting screwed by providers in nz.
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]*On 
Behalf Of*Donna Goodin

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*Subject:*Re: Blume Wifi
Hey Scot,
Yeah, it's pretty cool.  We have the gigabyte option here, too, but 
we didn't get it for our rental house.  We're thinking about it for 
our permanent home, which we'll be moving into in July.  Good to know 
the limits of the Airport.  I was wondering what its cut-off point was.

Cheers,
Donna

On Jun 10, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Scott Granados
> wrote:
Ah I love being on a fiber network.  They just rolled out full
gigabit where I live and I upgraded while cutting my bill in
half.  I have so much on WiFi now that I really do need a
distributed system.  Your airport is good up to about 200
megabits.  If your service will be faster than that it’s time to
update.

On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Donna Goodin > wrote:
Thanks for sharing this, Scott.  Now that I have the option
of a fast fiber connection, I've been wondering if it's time
to replace our airport extreme.  this sounds like an
interesting option.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jun 10, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Scott Granados
> wrote:
Hi Simon,
The way it seems to work is you connect via 1 or 2
gigabit ports to your network.  Either by placing the
master unit in router mode and having it handle the whole
internet connection or in bridge mode where it provides
the access point function but you provide your own
routing hardware.  (This will be my config). Once
connected you start an app on your phone (iPhone in my
case but both platforms are supported) and you configure
the first plume device.  Then you power up and add each
new device to the mesh.  You don’t run physical wires to
anything but the controller or master access point.  The
rest use backhaul channels to build the mesh.  Once
you’ve added all the access points you want, you get a
box of 6 for $320 US, they connect to a cloud application
where the mesh starts to optimize itself.  The meshes can
either direct connect back to the control access point
and or hop from one to another if that’s more optimal.
 The cloud software and access points will steer the
clients to the best frequency and access point based on
it’s location with in the mesh.  IF 2.4 ghz suddenly
becomes more speedy you’ll drop to 2.4 and then be
steered back up to 5 ghz if that returns to normal.  Also
uses tactics to isolate you from your neighbors and so
forth.  Cool stuff.  Google is also working in this space
as is Netgear and Niro.  Plume seems to rate the highest
and perform the best in testing from the reviews I’ve
read though.
Cool stuff.  Mesh WiFi was usually the stuff of big
enterprises, nice to have it in the home now.

On Jun 10, 2017, at 2:34 AM, Simon Fogarty
>
wrote:
Hi Scott,
When You test drive these blume wifi devices I’m
interested to know how they go
They sound bloody interesting
I’m wondering though how you get them connected to
your network.
Cheers,
Simon f
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Re: deleting old time machine backups

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

This is somewhat by design. Time Machine assumes it owns whatever volume 
you point it to and will continue to make incremental backups until the 
volume is full. At that point it will begin to cull old backups. That's 
why it's generally not a good idea to try and share space on a volume 
with time machine. Some workarounds are to partition a volume to reign 
in the amount of disk space TM can use. Another is to create a disk 
image on that drive, mount that disk image and the point time machine 
there. You can define how big the disk image is when you create it with 
Disk Utility. TM won't recognize the disk image on its own. Not sure why 
but you can manually do that in terminal by doing


tmutil setdestination /Volumes/Name_of_Your_Mounted_Disk_Image

Of course that means you must have that disk image opened before backups 
will work and you should dismount that disk image before you disconnect 
the external drive to make sure everything is buttoned up correctly.


Hope this helps.

CB

On 6/9/17 12:07 PM, jean parker wrote:

Hello All:

Apparently time machine is not deleting old backups. I have looked and can’t 
find anything about this in preferences. How can I get rid of the old backups 
which are now consuming space on my external hard drive? Can I send them to the 
trash?

Many thanks,

Jean
  
Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.

Senior Research Fellow
Trans4m Center For Integral Development
Geneva, Switzerland



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Re: I'm really growing to hate this years crop of laptops

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

My Apple II+ had the shit key mod that hooked a wire from the keyboard 
into the game controller plug so I could actually type upper and lower 
case. I also had discovered $C030 was the address of the speaker to make 
it click. Do that often enough and you get a tone. Turned out $C020 was 
the "cassette port" jack on the back of the machine. So if I search 
through the binary code of games and changed the C030s to C020s I could 
run sound to the jack and run that to my sound system. Sooo much better 
sounding.


CB

On 6/7/17 10:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

We probably had a similar laptop.  I liked Toshiba back in the day, they fell 
off years ago but for a while they had top shelf hardware.

My first computer was an Apple 2E with the upgraded 128K memory, two 180 K 
floppy drives, Apple Cat 300/1200 baud modem, applied engineering clock card 
(because you needed a separate clock to tell time and provide accurate 
clocking), z80 CPM emulator card, several serial ports which were each a card 
and a Disk drive controller card.  Also had a 40 megabyte hard disk (cider 
drive) and a Midi interface for controlling keyboards.  Whole shooting match 
got me close to 7 grand.  I was about 11 or 12 at the time, took summer jobs 
and worked after school to save up and buy the hardware.  The processor was all 
of 0.996 MHz, 8 bit and I had a special card just to display 80 columns per 
screen instead of 40.  The screen output was composite video.:). That doesn’t 
even compare to the processor and hardware that control the light bar on the 
new MacBooks let alone the MacBooks themselves.  Learned a whole hell of a lot 
about electronics then though and used that same setup for almost 9 years.

Funny how distant that seems now and how far we’ve engineered things sense.
  




On Jun 7, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

lol  I never spent that much, but you're right, computers back in the early 
days cost a chunk of change.  And yeah, I remember being so excited when I 
bought a Toshiba laptop that had a 20 mb hard drive.  Nowadays, that's just 
laughable.
Cheers,
Donna


On Jun 7, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

Some of us spent almost that much on our first computers back in the day and 
got far far less for the money.

The regular iMac line seems to have had a refresh as well.  I customized one 
and came in under 5 grand with 64 GB of ram and a TB of SSD.  They still start 
at 1099 or so for the basic configurations though.


On Jun 7, 2017, at 7:56 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

OK, let me re-state: No way will I spend $10,000 on a Mac! :)  As someone else 
said, if I ran a professional studio of some sort, or for some other reason had 
those financial resources and the need for such a high end machine, then maybe. 
 But neither is the case for me.  $10,000 for a personal computer is ridiculous.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:04 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

A mac book pro but an iMac Pro.

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On Behalf Of lenron brown
Sent: Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm really growing to hate this years crop of laptops

No way would I spend 10 Grand on a Mac book Pro. Only way I would buy that if I 
had some type of major video production company. At least you know it should be 
future proof bro.

On 6/6/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Scott, your crazy dude,

Yeah I'd like one but still I'm not that crazy.

When the pricing comes out check out the apple.co.nz site and price
the fully spec'd iMac Pro.
Yor 10K dollars is nothing compared to our pricing.




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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 8:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm really growing to hate this years crop of laptops

BTW, what do you think of the iMac pro?

Mine will probably cost over 10,000 but I’m going to get one.


On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

My IMac has a round circle type of cable in the middle of the
machine.  Is that not a Mac Safe?  I thought it was.

On 5 Jun 2017, at 00:57, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Kawal,

I'd be very surprised if your Imac had a magsafe power adaptor  as
well,

I work with iMacs from 2009 to 2016 models and all of them run from
mains power with a single cable into the middle of the back of the
machine, They have not to this point made an iMac with magsafe power
connectivity

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Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, 5 June 2017 3:33 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: I'm really growing to hate this years crop of 

Re: I'm really growing to hate this years crop of laptops

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Back in the day when I switched from Apple II to Mac I bought a 
discontinued Mac IIcx which had no hard drive, no monitor and a full 
megabyte of RAM on four 256K DIMMs. If I recall it was about $1600. I 
quickly added a hard drive as running from floppy disk was horrible. It 
was a huge 105MB unit I called "the pit" as I could load up nearly all 
my floppies of stuff into it.


CB

On 6/7/17 10:15 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

lol  I never spent that much, but you're right, computers back in the early 
days cost a chunk of change.  And yeah, I remember being so excited when I 
bought a Toshiba laptop that had a 20 mb hard drive.  Nowadays, that's just 
laughable.
Cheers,
Donna


On Jun 7, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:

Some of us spent almost that much on our first computers back in the day and 
got far far less for the money.

The regular iMac line seems to have had a refresh as well.  I customized one 
and came in under 5 grand with 64 GB of ram and a TB of SSD.  They still start 
at 1099 or so for the basic configurations though.


On Jun 7, 2017, at 7:56 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

OK, let me re-state: No way will I spend $10,000 on a Mac! :)  As someone else 
said, if I ran a professional studio of some sort, or for some other reason had 
those financial resources and the need for such a high end machine, then maybe. 
 But neither is the case for me.  $10,000 for a personal computer is ridiculous.
Cheers,
Donna

On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:04 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

A mac book pro but an iMac Pro.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of lenron brown
Sent: Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:03 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm really growing to hate this years crop of laptops

No way would I spend 10 Grand on a Mac book Pro. Only way I would buy that if I 
had some type of major video production company. At least you know it should be 
future proof bro.

On 6/6/17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Scott, your crazy dude,

Yeah I'd like one but still I'm not that crazy.

When the pricing comes out check out the apple.co.nz site and price
the fully spec'd iMac Pro.
Yor 10K dollars is nothing compared to our pricing.




-Original Message-
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 8:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm really growing to hate this years crop of laptops

BTW, what do you think of the iMac pro?

Mine will probably cost over 10,000 but I’m going to get one.


On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

My IMac has a round circle type of cable in the middle of the
machine.  Is that not a Mac Safe?  I thought it was.

On 5 Jun 2017, at 00:57, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Kawal,

I'd be very surprised if your Imac had a magsafe power adaptor  as
well,

I work with iMacs from 2009 to 2016 models and all of them run from
mains power with a single cable into the middle of the back of the
machine, They have not to this point made an iMac with magsafe power
connectivity

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal
Gucukoglu
Sent: Monday, 5 June 2017 3:33 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: I'm really growing to hate this years crop of laptops

I must apologise for giving you the wrong information.  My MacMini
does not have a Mac Safe.  I got confused as my I Mac does.  I have
plugged that MacMini in more than two years ago and have not really
unplugged it much so I forgot.

Kawal.

On 4 Jun 2017, at 11:59, Georgina Joyce  wrote:

Hello,

That’s interesting. My 2012 model has a figure of 8 lead. i.e. It
is fed 240V whereas, I’m guessing the voltage is dropped
externally. Or does the magsafe deliver mains voltage?

As you suggest the Mini is a great little machine.

Regards,

Gena


On 4 Jun 2017, at 11:43, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

My MacMini is a 2014 model.

On 3 Jun 2017, at 23:30, Georgina Joyce  wrote:

Hello,

What year Mac Mini has a magsafe power connection?

Regards,

Gena

On 3 Jun 2017, at 18:25, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

Hi Scott.

A few months ago I went to the Apple store with my father as I
convinced him to purchase the 7 Plus I phone which he did.

After that was done, I went to look at the most expensive Apple
watch which i liked but wasn't going to spend that kind of money
to get the Apple watch but may get an apple watch next time if
the third Gen is better than the second Gen.

Anyway, I went to have a look at the Macbook Air with the touch
bar on it.  I thought it was a bit crap as I knew it wouldn't
have the Mac Safe plug on it.  I love my I Mac and 

Re: So what do we think of the WWDC new hardware?

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

They added "native core bluetooth" to connect to devices including 
glucose monitors from dexcom. This was at 19:57 in the presentation.


https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2017/

CB

On 6/6/17 11:26 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
I did hear something about the gym equipment. But I didn't hear 
anything about the diabetes thing. I guess we all know in the fall.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 6, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:


I did hear something about integrating with a diabetes constant 
monitor and integrating with gym equipment so that the equipment will 
receive heart rate from watch and watch will receive data from the 
exercise equipment.



On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:04 AM Mary Otten > wrote:


Hi Gary, I saw a thing yesterday talking about the top features
in watchOS for, and it didn't say anything at all about CGM.
However, I had seen something earlier that talked about this
feature perhaps being incorporated into a band rather than into
the watch itself, because Apple does not want the watch to have
to go through FDA control. God knows if it's true. Like you, I am
hoping that they come up with something good.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2017, at 12:12 AM, gary-melconian
> wrote:
>
> Any news on apple watch  OS  as far as any hints to what tim
cook  is wearing as far as cgm and that sort of stuff goes. I am
a type 2 diabetic and  rely on the dexcom cgm and I was hoping
for better advancements in this area with a watch sort of device
that apple could come up to give the 21 million diabetics  in the
world a reason to get an apple watch. I am still interested to se
if anything will be talked about that in the future.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 11:51 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

> Subject: RE: So what do we think of the WWDC new hardware?
>
> I still think the sonos speaker range is far ahead of the apple
home pod speaker,
>
> But I do like the previous question of will it have the 3.5mm
headphone jack or lightening connector for headphones,
>
> I think it will be more the Bluetooth for the earpods
>
>
> But they are going to have to be bloody impressive for me to
buy 1 let alone 2 although  I'm not sure we get them this year or
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] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 9:19 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

> Subject: Re: So what do we think of the WWDC new hardware?
>
> I think the new home speaker could be interesting, especially
as a stereo pair, if the sound is really good, and if Apple gets
his act together with Siri. It's clearly way behind google at
this point. The idea that this new speaker will be smart enough
to know where it is in a room and adjust its output accordingly
is interesting. I am not the least bit interested in the Mac pro,
iMac Pro. The price is absurd for anything I would want. I'm
disappointed about the mini not getting refreshed, but not
surprised. And I think the new stuff for the iPad in iOS 11 has
really good potential, although I will be curious to see how it
all works with voiceover. I was excited about the announcement of
a new Bluetooth keyboard and that includes the number pad, only
to be disappointed when I realized it has the same awful feel as
all of the new notebook keyboards that Apple has been producing.
No key travel to speak up and no spacing between the keys. No
thank you. Why oh why can't they make a keyboard that really
works well for touch typist? That is after all, who does most of
the serious typing in the world.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Scott Granados
> wrote:
>>
>> So what does everyone think of the announcements.
>>
>> Personally, I’m going to leave the home speaker on the store
shelf but
>> the new iMac Pro is calling my name.  Being able to have 18
cores and
>> 128 GB of RAM as well s 16 GB of video memory is pretty hot. 
Granted

>> the device starts a
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