Re: Command for downloads folder no longer opens up my downloads in Sonoma can anybody help?

['Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries]

Same here, I’m on the latest version of Sonoma here, and command-option-l works 
fine for me as well, opens my downloads folder fine.

> On Dec 1, 2023, at 9:22 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> Try restarting your machine? I have updated and it still works for me.
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2023, at 20:17, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys, I'm running the latest version of Sonoma, and I'm having an issue. 
>> I need to open my downloads folder in order to copy a file to email. 
>> Unfortunately command option in the letter L no longer work what is going on 
>> here?
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Re: Using the new macOS Sonoma

['Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries]

Yeah, that’s what I would’ve thought as well, Jason.

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> On Sep 30, 2023, at 1:07 PM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Presumably, if caps lock is configured as the VO modifier, holding it should 
> never change the state of the caps lock function, and should never warn about 
> it.
>  
> From: 'Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2023 11:55 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using the new macOS Sonoma
>  
> Agreed, this  is very annoying.  I've switched back to using control option 
> for my VO modifier.  Not sure if there’s any way to turn this off,  or if 
> it’s a feature, rather than a bug.  
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> On Sep 27, 2023, at 9:35 PM, Kelly Ford  <mailto:kellford1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> For me this happens if I have caps lock down and move into an edit box. I 
> reported it to Apple during the beta and find it vexing.
>  
> My current solution is to turn on arrow key quick nav more frequently and use 
> that instead of caps+left or right.
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Sep 27, 2023, at 7:54 PM, 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> I do.
> it only seems to do it, when I’m holding it down.
> 
> 
> On Sep 27, 2023, at 6:16 PM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Do you have caps lock configured as a VoiceOver modifier? Mine is, and I 
> can’t reproduce your issue (MacOS Sonoma).
> I suppose you could try a double press of caps lock to turn it off, if it is 
> on.
>  
> From: 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 15:31
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
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> Subject: Using the new macOS Sonoma
> 
> Hi folks. I”m really liking .
> One weird thing, whenever I hold down the cap lock  key on my keyboard it 
> keeps telling me to turn off the cap lock key. Does anybody have any idea how 
> I can make it stop doing that?
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Re: Using the new macOS Sonoma

['Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries]

Agreed, this  is very annoying.  I've switched back to using control option for 
my VO modifier.  Not sure if there’s any way to turn this off,  or if it’s a 
feature, rather than a bug.  
Dan Eickmeier. Beamsville, Ontario Canada.  Amateur radio callsign: VA3ETS
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> On Sep 27, 2023, at 9:35 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> For me this happens if I have caps lock down and move into an edit box. I 
> reported it to Apple during the beta and find it vexing.
> 
> My current solution is to turn on arrow key quick nav more frequently and use 
> that instead of caps+left or right.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 27, 2023, at 7:54 PM, 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I do.
>> it only seems to do it, when I’m holding it down.
>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2023, at 6:16 PM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do you have caps lock configured as a VoiceOver modifier? Mine is, and I 
>>> can’t reproduce your issue (MacOS Sonoma).
>>> I suppose you could try a double press of caps lock to turn it off, if it 
>>> is on.
>>>  
>>> From: 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 15:31
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Subject: Using the new macOS Sonoma
>>> 
>>> Hi folks. I”m really liking .
>>> One weird thing, whenever I hold down the cap lock  key on my keyboard it 
>>> keeps telling me to turn off the cap lock key. Does anybody have any idea 
>>> how I can make it stop doing that?
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Re: new member and new to the Mac

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Hi Jess, welcome to the list, and  to the Mac 
as well.The MacBook Air is definitely a good machine.  I’ve been using Macs 
here since 2008,  and  don’t think I'd ever switch back over to Windows.  I 
like that with a Mac, I can pay the same price anybody else would, without 
having to pay for something like JAWS, on top of the cost of a windows machine. 
 
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> On Sep 21, 2023, at 9:04 PM, Jessica Barr  wrote:
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> Hello. My name is Jessica (or Jess). I recently got a MacBook Air, which is 
> my first Mac. For quite a while I relied on just my iPhone or my braille 
> notetaker to do things, but I decided it would be good to have a Mac as well. 
> I'm looking forward to learning from the people on this list.
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Re: More strange Mac mail behaviors.

['Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries]

OH wow, that’s weird, Jess.  Have never had anything like that happen in mail 
where you can’t delete all messages, and having messages come back that you 
delete.  That’s interesting.  
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> On Jul 6, 2023, at 10:56 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> Honestly, I have no idea, I just no that at this point, something has somehow 
> happened where all my deleted messages are now coming back as soon as I 
> delete them, and command+shift+delete no longer erases everything like it 
> used to on either of my mailboxes.  This just randomly happened yesterday, 
> without me having done anything to my settings, so have no idea what needs to 
> be fixed, let alone what could have caused it.
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
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>> Are you perhaps, confusing filters and searches? If you do a search within 
>> all mail that it will look at every folder, including your deleted folder in 
>> some cases.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 9:03 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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>>> I just noticed yesterday, and have no idea what brought this on, that when 
>>> I launched my Apple mail, everything in my personal mailbox looked like it 
>>> it had completely been erased.  However, everything within my work 
>>> e-mailbox, which is also gmail-based, was still in tact.
>>> Then next thing I knew, Voiceover kept saying something about filters, upon 
>>> mail being launched, which I never mess with, but figured I’d attempt to do 
>>> so to see if I could recover them.  So after doing some playing around to 
>>> see what would take, I somehow managed to get my mail back, but now on both 
>>> sides, my erase-all command is now no longer working, and my messages are 
>>> reappearing as fast as I delete them.  Does anyone know what I could’ve 
>>> accidentally toggled on that I need to fix?
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Re: Command in Monterrey to Eject an external disk?

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Hi Donna, running Monterey on a 2020 Intel MacBook Air, as well as a 2018 intel 
Mac mini, and command-e is still working fine to eject external volumes here.  

> On Oct 13, 2022, at 9:36 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> I notice that in Monterrey CMD-E no longer works to eject an external disk 
> drive.  Anyone know if there’s a new command?  I tried CMD-Option-E but that 
> didn’t do it.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Managing your server list in TeamTalk on the Mac?

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Nice, I got an account on GitHub, so I could use the discussions page 
on teamtalk, and  after having brought it up in their discussions page on 
GitHub, the issue of deleting servers from the server list, or user accounts on 
a server on which you’re an admin has been fixed.  Now when focused on a server 
in the server list in the connect window, or a user in the user accounts 
window, we can just hit the delete key, and we’ll get a dialog, asking whether 
we want to delete the server, or user account.  It works nicely.  This is in 
the latest beta release.  I have my TeamTalk client set  to check for beta 
updates.  I don’t do any kind of development, but after having emailed, I was 
encouraged to use the discussions section of their GitHub page instead,  so I 
did that.  They seem to pay more attention to stuff over there, rather than 
email.  

> On Sep 26, 2022, at 7:27 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> It’s painful for me to say this, but TeamTalk is one program that is coded 
> better for Windows. Even though the server list says one thing, I have 
> noticed that if I go to the user name, it is for the last server. There is a 
> focusing issue that is happening, and like you, I have not found a work 
> around.
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2022, at 13:39, 'Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Hi all, I’m running Team talk on my 2020 Intel macBook air here.  I’ve got 
>> some old servers in my server list that are no longer up.  I can’t find any 
>> way to delete them out of my server list?  this is weird, as I’d think you 
>> should be able to delete servers that you no longer want out of there.   
>> There is a remove entry button, but that doesn’t seem to do anything, the 
>> server I’m trying to delete is still in there.  I have TeamTalk set to check 
>> for beta updates in preferences, so I’m running the latest beta update 
>> that's out there.  Teamtalk 5.11.0.5095.  Selecting things in lists, such as 
>> your server list is better in that version, you can just arrow around.   
>> Also, there doesn’t seem to be a way to delete user accounts, if you have a 
>> server that you’re an admin on.  If anybody has figured out a way I can do 
>> these things, I’d greatly appreciate it.  
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Re: Mac Keeps Crashing

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Hi Faith, I have a few things that  may help you here  to determine which 
process is causing the Mac to reboot and crash like this.   You could  go  into 
the console app, and have  a look at recent messages in the console log.  That 
may give you some idea as to which app is causing this.  The console app is in 
your utilities folder.  Secondly, looking at crash logs may help as well.  
These are located at the root of your hard drive, Library, Logs, crash logs.  
What I like to do as well, is set up a clean user account, you could just call 
it test, to troubleshoot whether this crashing is a user account specific 
issue.  .  Hope this helps.  

> On Sep 24, 2022, at 7:52 PM, Faith Girvan  wrote:
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> It’s strange because I’ve only noticed it happening recently.
> No, the drive isn’t evenly partitioned, because I didn’t need so much space 
> on my window side.
> Where do you get the programs you mentioned? I think I’ve used onyx before, 
> but the other one I have not. I really hope I don’t have to reformat, but as 
> soon as I am back on my Mac side, I can tell you the model.
> It seems to happens a lot when I use video on the Internet from what I can 
> tell, but I do thank you for your suggestions. 
>> On Sep 24, 2022, at 7:48 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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>> There can be a number of factors from hard drive space to Mac model etc. 
>> First, do you have Bootcamp and the Mac side evenly partitioned? Have you 
>> gone through the Mac side and cleaned out files you don’t need? Have you ran 
>> any clean up programs like Onyx or Malware Bytes? Also, there is the dreaded 
>> Re-format. So many things to consider, and the older the Mac, the more 
>> problems you could have.
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2022, at 17:54, Faith Girvan >> > wrote:
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>>> Hello everyone.
>>> I am currently using the windows side of my mac because it seems whenever 
>>> I'm on my mac side, even if I only slightly overload it, it crashes and 
>>> restarts. What should I do about this? Please let me know.
>>> Thank you.
>>> Faith
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Managing your server list in TeamTalk on the Mac?

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Hi all, I’m running Team talk on my 2020 Intel macBook air here.  I’ve got some 
old servers in my server list that are no longer up.  I can’t find any way to 
delete them out of my server list?  this is weird, as I’d think you should be 
able to delete servers that you no longer want out of there.   There is a 
remove entry button, but that doesn’t seem to do anything, the server I’m 
trying to delete is still in there.  I have TeamTalk set to check for beta 
updates in preferences, so I’m running the latest beta update that's out there. 
 Teamtalk 5.11.0.5095.  Selecting things in lists, such as your server list is 
better in that version, you can just arrow around.   Also, there doesn’t seem 
to be a way to delete user accounts, if you have a server that you’re an admin 
on.  If anybody has figured out a way I can do these things, I’d greatly 
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Re: Audio editing?

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Hi Lorie,  Amadeus pro is really good. I've been using it for years. I highly 
reccommend it.  

> On 
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> I'm interested in Amadaeus pro. haven't bought it yet but am planning to. 
> would that one be included in this?
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 1:06 PM, kliph miller Sr > > wrote:
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>> Ok, there was a discussion on this list and a few others about Audio Hijack 
>> pro, among other apps, I have learned how to use Audio Hijack, and a few 
>> others.  Want those who know how to edit audio, or who want to learn how to 
>> edit audio to join me in mastering this for podcasts or just in your free 
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Re: a good recording app?

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Hi Shirley, I’d highly recommend Amadeus pro.  It’s available both in the mac 
app store, as well as directly from the Developer’s website at: 
https://www.hairersoft.com/pro.html .  
Jonathan Mosen has an excellent tutorial on it, using it from a voiceover 
users’ perspective, , which I believe you  can still get from http://mosen.org 
.  Hope this helps.   
> On Apr 22, 2020, at 6:26 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:
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> hi
> has anyone got recommendations for a good app to use for recording stuff with 
> vo and I am using catalina also?
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Re: RS Games on Catalina?

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Hi Faith, and all on list.  this link will work here.  the 64 bit version is 
currently in beta, but I’ve run it here, and all seems fine here, not having 
any issues with it.  Here’s the link off the downloads page.  
http://rsgames.org/rsdownloads/rsgclient/rsgclient2-mac-64bit.zip
Take care.  
> On Apr 18, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Faith Girvan  wrote:
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> I didn’t test it, because it actually says on the site they don’t have a 
> version yet available for the newest Mac version. So currently, I am playing 
> it on my window side. But yes, that is correct.
> Faith
> Internet Radio DJ
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>> Does RS Games not work with Catalina? Just tried downloading the client and 
>> I’m getting an error.
>> 
>> Brandon
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Re: Fan runs on hi speed when Installed catalina.

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Hi Anders,  I found the  same thing with my MacBook air too initially.  I’d 
turned on voice control, just to check it out, and see if i had much use for 
it, or could use it with VO, and I found that  the dictation process, was like 
eating up have my CPU.  switching off voice control did the  trick.   the fan 
slowed right down.  Not sure  if you’ve got that, or some aspect of dictation 
enabled, but if you do, you might try turning that  off, and see if that  calms 
things down.  

> On Nov 12, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> After i upgraded to Catalina my fan on my Macbook air has become very active 
> even when its not needed.
> SO i checked with the activity control and VoiceoVer  takes 56% of processor 
> usage.
> There’s also a service called something like accessibilityview that takes up 
> 55% of processor usage.
> So i decided to reset the pram in order to stop this.
> BUt it seems that it doesn’t help.
> Are there some things i can do before i decide to reinstall the OS?
> I don’t know why this behaviour occures but it does.
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: clean my mac x

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hI Jeff, Onyx works fine here.  What I would do, is go into system preferences, 
security and privacy, and on the privacy tab, go under accessibility, and make 
sure  that Onyx is one of the apps checked in that section.  If it isn’t, check 
it, or you may have to add it in there.  and then you should be good to go.  

> On Oct 29, 2019, at 7:52 AM, jeff `greene  wrote:
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> Hi List,
> I used to use Cocktail to clean my mac but it went wonky on me and
> kept asking me to repurchase the product. So, then, I switched to
> Onyx, but on OS 10.15 with the latest version of Onyx when I launch it
> it comes up with no windows. So, I was thinking about purchasing
> CleanMyMac X. I just wondered if anyone on the list has used it with
> OSX 10.15? Is it accessible with VO?
> thanks Jeff
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Re: Voiceover on startup

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Hi Petrus, what it sounds like to me, is that the   mac you’re trying to log 
into, may have file vault turned on.  iN that case, what you do, is type in the 
username, hit enter, it’ll say password, type the password, and hit enter  
again, and  you’ll be in.  Hope this helps.  

> On Oct 9, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
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> Hi guys,
> Well that kind of worked but didn’t work. I got voiceover to start when I 
> restarted my wife’s Mac, and all it said was Voiceover on, user name. It 
> didn’t give me anywhere to enter the password to unlock the Mac, I even tried 
> to tab around to find the password field and all it kept saying was voiceover 
> on user name.  I tried turning voiceover off and entering her password but 
> that isn’t work either. So now I’ll have to wait until she gets home as I 
> can’t unlock it now.  I thought if I enabled voiceover to start on startup 
> I’d be able  to unlock the Mac with voiceover on.
> Oh, Simon, my wife’s Mac hasn’t got the Touch Bar.   
> 
>> On 10/10/2019, at 09:11, Simon A Fogarty > > wrote:
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>> Hi Petrus,
>>  
>> So on the touch bar machines,
>>  
>> Press the top right hand corner key three times quickly to bring up the 
>> accessibility list,
>>  
>> Tab down to voiceover and hit space bar on it, then hit the letter v to 
>> start vo as it would normally be.
>>  
>> Then to start it from the command prompt go into system preferences,
>> Users and groups,
>> Go across to the padlock and unlock it,
>> Then back to the users / groups list,
>> Highlight the very bottom user / feature which should be Log in and
>>  
>> Then there should be an option to start voiceover at the log in screen.
>>  
>> Check that and then exit should be all you need to do.
>> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > >On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>> Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2019 8:42 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Voiceover on startup
>>  
>> Hi all,
>> This is going to sound like a silly and basic question. How does one turn on 
>> Voiceover to run on the startup of the Mac? I have it set up on my Mac of 
>> corse and a friend helped me set it up so I never found out what she did. 
>> I’d like to get voiceover to start up automatically on my wife’s Mac when I 
>> restart it. But not sure where I’m supposed to look to do this? 
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Petrus 
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Re: Sending higher quality voice messages in Mac OS 10.14.4?

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Hi Aleeha, ok.  Good to know that i’m not the only one experiencing this.  
Yeah, it sure is unfortunate.  hopefully it’ll be available soon.  
> On Apr 19, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
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> I am seeing the same issue on my 2015 MacBook Pro. Seems like this isn’t 
> available yet, which is unfortunate.
> Aleeha 
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>> Hi all, I’ve updated to MAc OS 10.14.4, and according to the release notes, 
>> the quality of audio messages has been improved on the MAc side, as well as 
>> on iOS.  On iOS, it works great for me,  voice messages I send, are nice and 
>>  clear..  However, on the MAc, an early 2014 MAcBook air, I’m getting the 
>> same, low, 8K quality as before.  Is anybody else experiencing this?  Is 
>> support for sending higher quality voice messages, not available on the mac 
>> yet, despite what the release notes say?  
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Sending higher quality voice messages in Mac OS 10.14.4?

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Hi all, I’ve updated to MAc OS 10.14.4, and according to the release notes, the 
quality of audio messages has been improved on the MAc side, as well as on iOS. 
 On iOS, it works great for me,  voice messages I send, are nice and  clear..  
However, on the MAc, an early 2014 MAcBook air, I’m getting the same, low, 8K 
quality as before.  Is anybody else experiencing this?  Is support for sending 
higher quality voice messages, not available on the mac yet, despite what the 
release notes say?  

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Re: Streaming netflicks on a macbook?

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Yeah. If you want to on your mac, I’d reccomend just opening up netflix in a 
browser

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> On Dec 27, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Sarah Massengale  wrote:
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> Not sure why you’d want to do that, when you can just watch Netflix in a 
> browser on your mac.
> 
> Sarah
> 
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:
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>> Can I plug an apple tv into my macbook pro? Is that possible? To stream net 
>> flicks using my mac? Instead of a tv, any ideas?
>> shirley
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Re: Accessible Youtube to mp3 converter for the Mac?

['Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries]

No it isn’t. You’ll nave to get it directly from the developer’s site 
at:https://software.charliemonroe.net/downie.php

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 29, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> is it in the mac app store?
> My Youtube Channel:
> "www.youtube.com/loriemccloud 
> 
>> On Nov 29, 2018, at 12:38 AM, 'Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> A great app, that’ll convert videos from not only youtube, but lots of other 
>> sites as well, is Downey.  I highly recommend it.  I’ve been using it for 
>> quite some time now, and it’s great, and perfectly accessible.  
>> 
>>> On Nov 28, 2018, at 7:41 PM, Debbie April Yuille 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m from Australia.
>>>  
>>> Debbie
>>>  
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of Des Delgadillo
>>> Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2018 7:17 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible Youtube to mp3 converter for the Mac?
>>>  
>>> Hi Debbie,
>>>  
>>> Thanks for sharing that link. It looks like a great website. However, when 
>>> I try and convert it gives me an error that says converting music from 
>>> Youtube is not possible in my region. I’m in California. Where are you 
>>> from, by chance? If it works for you, perhaps I can use a VPN.
>>>  
>>> Desmond Delgadillo
>>> Freelance Content Writer
>>> m:
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>>> e:
>>> desdelgadi...@gmail.com
>>>   
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 27, 2018, at 6:07 PM, Debbie April Yuille 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hello
>>>> 
>>>> I use an online converter. I use it on windows but I see no reason why it 
>>>> won't work on the Mac. The link is below. You paste in the URL of what you 
>>>> want to convert then you select the format you want, there are also 
>>>> customisation options. You then wait for it to be converted, then there is 
>>>> an option to download it.
>>>> http://convert2mp3.net/en/index.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DTi_0sIKCVxo
>>>> 
>>>> HTH
>>>> Debbie
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>> Behalf Of Des Delgadillo
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 8:25 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Accessible Youtube to mp3 converter for the Mac?
>>>> 
>>>> Hey all, 
>>>> Usually when I need some audio from Youtube, I have no problem using 
>>>> Loopback to record from Safari into Garage Band. Now, though, I'm working 
>>>> on a radio demo and I need to download songs, and I figure it will take 
>>>> forever to record each individual song only for me to end up using a 
>>>> 3-second clip. 
>>>> So, can anyone recommend a good way to download Youtube videos? I used to 
>>>> use anything2mp3.com but that doesn't work for me anymore. 
>>>> 
>>>> IF it supports batch conversion and SoundCloud URL's, that's a huge plus.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Accessible Youtube to mp3 converter for the Mac?

['Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries]

A great app, that’ll convert videos from not only youtube, but lots of other 
sites as well, is Downey.  I highly recommend it.  I’ve been using it for quite 
some time now, and it’s great, and perfectly accessible.  

> On Nov 28, 2018, at 7:41 PM, Debbie April Yuille 
>  wrote:
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> I’m from Australia.
>  
> Debbie
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   > On Behalf Of Des Delgadillo
> Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2018 7:17 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Accessible Youtube to mp3 converter for the Mac?
>  
> Hi Debbie,
>  
> Thanks for sharing that link. It looks like a great website. However, when I 
> try and convert it gives me an error that says converting music from Youtube 
> is not possible in my region. I’m in California. Where are you from, by 
> chance? If it works for you, perhaps I can use a VPN.
>  
> Desmond Delgadillo
> Freelance Content Writer
> m:
> 562-652-3415 
> e:
> desdelgadi...@gmail.com 
>     
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2018, at 6:07 PM, Debbie April Yuille 
>> mailto:debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hello
>> 
>> I use an online converter. I use it on windows but I see no reason why it 
>> won't work on the Mac. The link is below. You paste in the URL of what you 
>> want to convert then you select the format you want, there are also 
>> customisation options. You then wait for it to be converted, then there is 
>> an option to download it.
>> http://convert2mp3.net/en/index.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DTi_0sIKCVxo
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> HTH
>> Debbie
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>  > > On Behalf Of Des Delgadillo
>> Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 8:25 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Accessible Youtube to mp3 converter for the Mac?
>> 
>> Hey all, 
>> Usually when I need some audio from Youtube, I have no problem using 
>> Loopback to record from Safari into Garage Band. Now, though, I'm working on 
>> a radio demo and I need to download songs, and I figure it will take forever 
>> to record each individual song only for me to end up using a 3-second clip. 
>> So, can anyone recommend a good way to download Youtube videos? I used to 
>> use anything2mp3.com  but that doesn't work for me 
>> anymore. 
>> 
>> IF it supports batch conversion and SoundCloud URL's, that's a huge plus.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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File transfers in Messages in mac OS Mojave?

['Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all, in High Sierra and OS’s before that, in Messages, I could go to a file 
transfers window, and look at files that people have sent me through messages.  
This was useful, if I wanted to send somebody else a file that I’d  received 
over iMessage.  In Mojave, this file transfers window, appears to not be there 
now.Any help would be appreciated.  

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Re: Go to Webinar

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Hi Lorie, I highly doubt that go to webinar would be all that accessible.  I 
use regularly, and really really like zoom.us.  They’ve done a great job, with 
accessibility, there are a few issues with text chat panels, where VO won’t 
read the sender of messages in hte message list, and the dropdown menu in the 
window to join a meeting, that has meeting history, when you it VO space to 
look at the items in there, they  don’t speak.  I have reported both of those 
issues, hope they are resolved in an update

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> does anybody know if goto webinar is accessible on the Mac? I tried to use it 
> today, pressed the link for the launcher and Safari opened but nothing 
> happened. I know it used to be accessible but I've been away from it for some 
> time using Zoom which I really like. anyway, I'd like to know if there's 
> something I don't get, something I was supposed to do or if it stopped being 
> accessible.
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Re: hulu

[Dan Eickmeier]

And they seem to have no interest in improving accessibility of it either

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> On Apr 14, 2018, at 5:19 PM, aliFaisal  wrote:
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> I wouldn’t bother, it is completely inaccessible.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:19 PM, jeff `greene  wrote:
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>> Hi, I've been thinking of signing up for hulu's free trial. Just
>> wondering if anybody on the list has tried the hulu app found on the
>> app store? I think the app is like $7.99 or $9.99 so I'd like to find
>> out how accessible it is before buying!
>> thanks Jeff
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Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us

[Dan Eickmeier]

Cara, is this zoom.us thing, a web, browser based thing?  Or is it an app?  
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Karen and All,
> 
> I have also been using Zoom with a corporate account pretty much every day 
> for about a year now but unlike everyone else posting here so far, I have 
> encountered a number of really bothersome accessibility issues.
> 
> So I am wondering if you or someone else in this thread may be able to tell 
> me what the heck I am doing wrong! lol!
> 
> Firstly, in scheduling a meeting on the Mac, choosing a date causes VO to get 
> stuck in the date area.
> 
> Once I figured out that I needed to interact with the date again, I was not 
> able to hear which field I was editing with up and down arrows. More 
> accurately, I can hear the items which are changing but once I have selected 
> an item and use the left or right arrows to move to the next item, no time or 
> date elements are announced until I start using up or down arrows to edit 
> them.
> 
> So I basically need to just guess at which time or date element I am editing 
> at any given moment.
> 
> this is further complicated by the fact that once I am done editing the time 
> and date, Voiceover still seems to be stuck in the date area and it is only 
> by luck that I am able to get out of this area and not change anything I have 
> just set.
> 
> Once I get through that horror show, then I need to be careful when moving 
> through the rest of the scheduling window so as not to accidentally get 
> caught in the date area again.
> 
> So finally, once I have scheduled the meeting successfully, I then go to my 
> meetings tab and am greeted with a grid of unknown cells which I then need to 
> interact with to see which contains my scheduled meeting. Once I do that, 
> there is no obvious way to add participants to it.
> 
> If I click on the Contacts tab to access my company contacts I find a really 
> funky table that seems to cause Voiceover to keep jumping in the list of 
> people as if the list is constantly refreshing.
> 
> Once I am able to select a person, I am placed into what looks like a chat 
> window and again, Voiceover gets stuck in this window. I.E. I can press 
> Escape to get out of the chat window but as soon as Voiceover moves out of 
> the window its focus is immediately brought back into the chat window again.
> 
> This insanity also sometimes happens when I am just moving through the table 
> trying to locate a person. I.E. I will be looking for someone and suddenly I 
> will just end up in a chat window with a random person I am passing by in the 
> constantly refreshing list of contacts.
> 
> I am assuming this list keeps refreshing to keep up with coworkers statuses 
> and such but for God’s sake, there needs to be a way to turn this off. lol!
> 
> Needless to say this is all just hellishly annoying to say the least when I 
> just want / need to get work done. So I am really curious at what others’ are 
> doing to make this app usable.
> 
> I have not even gotten into the squirreliness on the iOS client or the window 
> juggling I seem to need to do when hosting a live meeting or presentation on 
> the Mac where I need to do screen sharing. It’s all just a bit much for me. 
> :) -And certainly is not ready to be called accessible at a corporate level 
> in my opinion.
> 
> So for me personally, calling this accessible is really kind of a stretch. 
> It’s sort of usable but not what I would consider accessible or at all 
> enjoyable. :)
> 
> Just my opinion of course and as I say, I am more than excited to hear 
> others’ feedback if it can help me tame this beastie! lol!
> 
> thanks bunches All and do have a lovely evening / morning / day, wherever you 
> may be on this little blue-green ball of ours.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
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> On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> I will add that  zoom allows you to give participant's a call in number 
> instead, a fine option for those ho prefer attending without video at all.
> Granted as is often the case when the audio is video based, the quality is 
> sort of nose crinkle  worthy, but at least the door for phone alone is there.
> Karen
> 
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2017, Kliphton Miller wrote:
> 
>> I HAVE BEEN USING ZOOM FOR ABOUT A YEAR, IT IS MOSTLY ACCESSIBLE, JUST THAT 
>> SOME OPTIONS THAT ARE available to the sited user, vo doesn’t read during a 
>> conference, but it’s not a deal breaker.
>>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 6:06 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I saw on Twitter yesterday that a new web conferencing service was 
>>> discovered recently: www.zoom.us . The big news here 
>>> is that they have an accessibility website 

Re: So what do we all think good or bad about the new home button?

[Dan Eickmeier]

I was sceptical at first too about the new home button, but I really like it in 
the 2 days I've had the phone.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> You know, I was skeptical, too, but I really like it.  In fact, like you, 
> Scott, I barely notice the difference.  The haptic feedback really does make 
> it feel like you're actually pressing a mechanical button.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 11:51 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Wonder what people think about the new home button?  I was skeptical.  I had 
>> a chance to hold the phone prelaunch but not use it for any length of time.  
>> It was attached to another device so we were testing from the PC and 
>> controlling the device remotely.  Now that I’ve had a 24 hour period to use 
>> it, I really dig it.  I was afraid because I don’t like the capacitive 
>> buttons on Android.  They don’t have any feedback or even physical 
>> identifier.  It feels surprisingly real to me.  When you press and get that 
>> response it feels a lot like a button.  I also like the response is 
>> configurable.  I know others disagree though so I’m interested in what 
>> others using the 7 think of the touch sensitive virtual button.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
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Re: Alternative to Skype

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Teamtalk which is widely used, has a Mac client, but the Mac client is 
unfortunately not all that accessible.  The best one of those apps like that, 
where people can just connect to a server, has to be Ventrilo.  If you want a 
server with a lot of slots, darkstarllc, at http://www.darkstarllc.com, offers 
Ventrilo servers at very reasonable prices.  Hope this helps.  .  On Jun 
28, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'd like to use something where people can connect on their own. With Skype, 
 I have to have all the Skype usernames, then add them all to the call.
 On Jun 28, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with skype itself? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does anyone know of good alternatives to Skype for holding a group call? I 
 am asking here because many of the alternatives are not very accessible if 
 at all.
 
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Re: Alternative to Skype

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Absolutely it is.  There's even an iOS app called Ventrilode that people can 
get if they want to connect on iOS devices.  On Jun 28, 2014, at 1:34 PM, 
Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dan,
 
 Thanks. Is this option convenient? Is it easy for people to install and 
 connect?
 On Jun 28, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote:
 
 Teamtalk which is widely used, has a Mac client, but the Mac client is 
 unfortunately not all that accessible.  The best one of those apps like 
 that, where people can just connect to a server, has to be Ventrilo.  If you 
 want a server with a lot of slots, darkstarllc, at 
 http://www.darkstarllc.com, offers Ventrilo servers at very reasonable 
 prices.  Hope this helps.  .  On Jun 28, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Brandon A. 
 Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'd like to use something where people can connect on their own. With 
 Skype, I have to have all the Skype usernames, then add them all to the 
 call.
 On Jun 28, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's wrong with skype itself? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 28, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
 programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does anyone know of good alternatives to Skype for holding a group call? 
 I am asking here because many of the alternatives are not very accessible 
 if at all.
 
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Re: Experience Switching to Mac

[Dan Eickmeier]

I've been using a Mac here since February of 2008, and have not  had any
reason to switch back to Windows.  Like a lot of people on this thread, , I got 
tired of having to pay to keep a JAWS SMA updated, and I also had it with their 
system of ILM authorizations.  I too, had  to have my activations  reset a 
number of times as well.  And what got me really interested, and wanting to go 
to the Mac, is the fact that we can do complete reformats, and OS installs with 
VoiceOver.  Even with the unattended install scripts that are out there for 
Windows,  and that Winstaller app, which has become popular now, we still have 
nothing close to being able to get the  OS, and do an install with full speech, 
or even Braille.  
On Apr 6, 2014, at 6:59 PM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:

 Well April, my offr is still on the table. If you like, I can teach you how 
 to use Voiceover. That goes for anyone that wants my help. Email me off list 
 and we'll set something up.
  
  
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
  
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of April
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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Experience Switching to Mac
  
 Hello.  About ten months ago, I was declared legally blind.  I have been on 
 the search for a full diagnosis and prognosis since.  No luck.
 
 In December, when my Windows 7 machine became totally unstable, and had been 
 reformatted three times in less than a month, I bought a  Mac.  I figured, if 
 I had to learn a screen reader, it was best to do so on one where the screen 
 reader came built in.
 
 So far, no luck learning how to use the screen reader though.  I can turn on 
 and off.  That's about it.  I have a 40 page list of random commands, and 
 can't figure out what any of the are supposed to do.  A dictionary would 
 help.  Perhaps the lines above or below that don't make sense are supposed to 
 tell me what they do?  
 
 I used to be a web designer, and I thought a screen reader should be easy to 
 learn to use.  After all, I'm good with with computers.  
 
 I'm also horrible with foreign languages, and figured braille would be 
 impossible to learn.  I started the first contracted braille book I'm reading 
 last night.  I started learning braille last November.
 
 I still use a Windows 7 computer at night.  It takes about 15 minutes to turn 
 on, and every scroll of the screen takes forever.  I don't count on it for 
 anything.
 
 On Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:11:11 PM UTC-4, Scott Duck wrote:
 Hi,
 As I have said, I am thinking about switching to the Mac and have been trying 
 to gather more information about it.  To that end, I have been asking 
 specific questions.  I will continue to do that but I would like some general 
 feedback from people who have made the switch from Windows to the Mac.  Why 
 did you switch In the first place?  Having switched, do you feel that it was 
 the right choice for you?  Do any of you regret having switched or have you 
 even gone back to the PC?
 Thanks,
 Scott Duck
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Re: BusyCal Support

[Dan Eickmeier]

Good that you’d emailed busy  cal support.  Hopefully they’ll respond, and 
implement better accessibility.  I’d tried the app a couple years ago, and I 
found the same thing, the actual calendar area wasn’t visible to VO at all.  
And when I went to switch back to   what was iCal at the time, this was on Snow 
leopard, I found that it wouldn’t launch.  Well, it would launch, but VO would 
say iCal has no Windows.So somehow, putting on busy cal, totally messed up iCal 
for some reason.  Had to do a total reinstall of the OS at the time, to get it 
back.  Before doing that however, I tried rebuilding the launch services data 
base with Onyx, this would fix it temporarily so I could use iCal again, but 
then later, it’d act up again.  Don’t know why that happened.  After that 
experience, and the inaccessibility of busy cal, don’t think I’ll be installing 
it again, until there are improvements in accessibility.Luckily that time, 
I’d just installed a trial version, so I wasn’t out nay money. .
On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Dear BusyCal Support Team,
 
 I downloaded the trial of BusyCal for Mac. I absolutely love the features in 
 BusyCal, which are so sadly missing in the native OS X Calendar.
 
 However, unfortunately I haven't been able to use BusyCal properly.
 
 I use VoiceOver—Apple's built-in screen reader for OS X—to access my Mac. 
 Voiceover is a utility for people who are blind or have low vision. It reads 
 out information on the screen and allows users to control the Mac with the 
 keyboard.
 
 All the controls, preferences etcetera of BusyCal are accessible with 
 VoiceOver, but sadly the actual calendar part of the application—presumably 
 listing the days of the month and events etcetera—appears completely 
 inaccessible with VoiceOver. From a VoiceOver user's perspective, the 
 calendar part of the app is invisible.
 
 It would be fantastic if you could make your app accessible with VoiceOver. 
 Thankfully, Apple makes this much easier than one might expect, given the 
 support for VoiceOver it builds into the Mac.
 
 Apple provides an introduction for developers on accessibility in OS X, 
 including VoiceOver, at the following link:
 https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXIntro/OSXAXintro.html
 
 Apple provides a general overview of VoiceOver for consumers here:
 http://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/voiceover/
 
 Additional information for developing apps that are accessible to VoiceOver 
 users can be found on the AppleVis website at:
 http://www.applevis.com/information-app-developers
 
 I would gladly welcome any news from BusyMac if/when you improve its 
 accessibility so I can spread the word among the community of VoiceOver 
 users. Additionally, if there are any settings, configurations or the like 
 which you believe might assist VoiceOver users in accessing BusyCal please 
 let me know.
 
 Many thanks for your time and consideration.
 
 Kind regards,
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Re: dvd ripping software

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi May, I'd say Handbrake would probably be the best choice to go with.  It's 
available from handbrake.fr
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 Hi.
 
 Sorry if this thread was talked about before.
 
 What is the best dvd ripping software that works with voiceover that allows 
 me to rip both the audio and the picture?
 
 May and Prince Noah
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Re: Braille Display Questions

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I have a Brailliant BI 40, and it works nicely on the MAc, and iOS as well.  
On 2013-01-03, at 2:35 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a Braille conect and it works great with iOS windows and Mac. 
 Best of luck deciding on one!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think the code is  for the Focus.
 
 Les
 On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Kristeen. 
 VoiceOver should recognize your Focus 40 Blue, whether you are using your 
 Mac, your IOS device, or a Windows computer. I've connected to a Windows 
 compchter with Blue Tooth. I have with my Mac and iPhone. 
 
 The one thing that I am finding is that you will want to connect it within 
 the VoiceOver utility. With my braille display, even after it's on the list 
 of devices, if I go to the turn Bluetooth on and try that way, I get an 
 error message, even though it's on the list. 
 
 When you connect it within the VO utility, y'blind want to make sure you 
 have the braille display turned on before you tell Vo to find it. That 
 sounds obvious, but these things can be kind of sensitive if they don't 
 find each other right away. 
 
 After Vo finds your display you will then be asked to put in a code. Some 
 of them are 1234 and some are , so others here can tell you what the 
 code is for the Focus 40 Blue. 
 
 After that, you should do ok. Congratulations on getting a braille, of 
 things, for a Christmas present. I never got anything that good for 
 Christmas. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
 On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You can email me off list, but I think this discussion can most likely
 help others. Even if not imediatley, someone may later wish to search
 the list archives for this topic and will find the thread you started.
 
 Scott
 
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 you can email me off list if you like.
 
 Best,
 
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 I just receiveed a focus 40 Blue for a gift.  I am wondering a lot of
 things. Is there someone who would be willing to talk with me off list so
 as not to clutter? Please???
 
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Re: MacBook Pro changing timezones

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Hi, inn the past, under previous versions of the OS, you could type in the name 
of the city you're in, and hit return.  
On 2012-10-07, at 10:01 AM, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I just tried this week and found that VoiceOver is unable to interact with 
 the world map in the timezones tab under System Preferences. Because I have a 
 MacBook Pro, I don't have location services. So when I tried changing the 
 timezone, VoiceOver tells me no visible title to interact.
 I emailed accessibility at Apple and they insisted VoiceOver is able to 
 interact and change the timezone.
 So I'm wondering if anyone else with the latest Mountain Lion updates is able 
 to interact with the world map and change the timezone? Because I cannot for 
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Re: how to view the source contents of a page

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Hi Timothy,  the command  you're looking for, is command-option-u.  
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Re: are they joking with us

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Hi William, , not sure what issues you're exactly having when it comes to 
importing VO preferences.  To test it, I exported mine, saved the exported file 
onto my external Hharddrive, then reset all VO preferences back to defaults, 
and then imported the file that I'd saved previously, and it worked flawlessly. 
 
On 2012-08-20, at 2:30 PM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 I have done a clean-install of 10.8 on my new air since I had very strange 
 problems with my air and , I was using in installation of 10.8 with some 
 peaces of 10.7.x, 10.6.x and 10.5.x from my time-machine backup.
 So, a clean install seems a good idea to determine if I had software-problems 
 or other problems.
 
 I have discovered that I can't import all my preferences of voiceover even if 
 I use separated vopref-files by item or if I use a global vopref-file that 
 was created before or  after the introduction of mountain Lion.
 
 I can't understand this at all since that bug was also announced since 10.7 
 and since there where also other comments on this lists about this treads, I 
 am shore others have reported this also.
 
 Even, the speech bugs with the nuance voices aren't fixed where some things 
 are spoken strange if there is a dot in the word without spaces before or 
 after the dot.
 This is also a bug since 10.7 and, one year and a major release later, no 
 changes in this.
 
 Do they have other priorities are there not enough people, is the last time 
 of voiceover announced and perhaps something new is coming (with new problems 
 of course like outspoken before voiceover)?
 
 
 I am angry that this kind of bugs still exists after one year and a major 
 release.
 
 frustrated regards,
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Re: Exceedingly scary and confounding problem with on-line banking account

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Anohter thing you could try, is the Reset safari option, which is found in the 
safari menu.  In there, you can do things like clear history and other things.  
Try that, and then try going to your bank's site again.
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 I looked in Safari preferences, and under the Privacy tab, there is 
 references to which cookies to allow, but I did not see any option for 
 clearing them. I also cannot locate a general empty cache Looked in 
 Security as well. . 
 On Aug 14, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 The one good answer I can give you is that Cookies and clearing them is 
 found in Presences.
 
 
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Re: Voice Changer that Works Through Skype

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 Hi Kevin, what your friend could do after the call is initially recorded, is 
to edit the call in an audio editor, dropping the voice of the interviewee in 
pitch.  I'd say that'd be their best bet.
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 Kevin,
 
 I know there is an iPhone app called Voice Changer that will do this, but I 
 can't imagine any legitimate job position which would require this as an 
 initial part of the interview process.  That sounds very fishy to me.  
 however, please check out that app, which is mentioned as a way to have fun 
 with your friends, etc.
 
 I hope this helps.
 
 Harry
 
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 Hi gang,
 
 I've got a friend who needs to interview someone through Skype, but for 
 privacy reasons, the interviewee's voice needs to be changed/modulated. Does 
 anyone know of software that can do this?
 
 Any help is appreciated.
 
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Re: Preview versus skim?

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Skim is no better as far as access to things like tables in PDF's, compared to 
preview is it?  
On 2012-08-05, at 1:16 AM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi Chris,
 
 Skim has been referred to as Preview on steroids.  It's free and open 
 source with a creative commons license, and gets frequent updates.  You can 
 download the latest version from Source Forge:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/skim-app/files/
 I don't know that there are any cons about using Skim, except that since it 
 has a lot of options, there's more to navigate in the basic distribution, and 
 it has more features than you will use.  The quick description is that it is 
 laid out very much like Preview, but supports annotation, so there is a 
 second sidebar for notes.  Because it uses the same base as Preview, any 
 limitations that you find when reading PDFs in Preview will show up in Skim.  
 So, for example, bookmarks take you back to the page you were reading but not 
 to the exact spot in the page (unless you set hotspots).  On the other hand, 
 there are expanded features, such as being able to organize your bookmarks 
 into folders.
 
 One situation where someone might clearly want to use Skim over Preview, is 
 if they were reviewing a PowerPoint or Keynote presentation that was exported 
 to PDF.  These don't play nicely with Preview, even using Full Screen mode.  
 But Skim has an additional Presentation mode for viewing, and you can 
 easily display presentations in this mode, controlling page transitions, etc. 
  So this is an easy and accessible way to give a text-based presentation or 
 to review notes from the text content of a presentation.  
 
 I originally started using Skim because it maintained more stable focus 
 behavior than Preview in operations like search and find.  When there are 
 really good Skim features eventually they get adopted and show up in later 
 versions of Preview.
 
 By the way, since Skim is supported as an open source effort at Source Forge 
 and is freely available there and not through the Mac App Store, there's a 
 Skim rip-off being sold in the Mac App Store as PDF Reader.  It's based on 
 an old version of Skim, and I'm rather surprised that Apple hasn't pulled 
 this, since there's no support, and the distributor is just profiting from 
 the (old version) open source efforts of Skim.  Since a number of Mac users 
 follow Skim, and it's highly rated at various download sites like MacUpdate, 
 a few people bought the version in the App Store when it showed up thinking 
 that it was put out by the people who work on Skim.  It's not, and you'll 
 just be paying for an unsupported, old version.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:28 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:
 
 The subject says it all. What are the pros and cons please. Thanks!
 - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac-access.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 2:43 AM
 Subject: Re: merging several PDF files into one.
 
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 It's actually possible to merge PDF files with Preview if you can drag and 
 drop to the thumbnails in the sidebar, but I don't think this works with 
 VoiceOver drag and drop -- at the very least it would be difficult.  If you 
 have Skim downloaded there's an embedded SkimPDF command line tool that lets 
 you perform operations like merging and extracting PDF files in Terminal.
 
 If you look under: /Applications/Skim.app/Contents/SharedSupport/  there are 
 three applications: displayline, skimnotes, and skimpdf.  You need to copy 
 skimpdf to somewhere in your default path with executable permission using 
 your Admin password.
 
 Open Terminal and type or paste in:
 sudo cp -p /Applications/Skim.app/Contents/SharedSupport/skimpdf /usr/bin/
 
 and press Return.  You'll be prompted to authorize with your Admin 
 password. The cp -p does the copy preserving permissions so you can 
 execute the commands.
 
 Then to merge two pdf files from the command line you can type:
 skimpdf merge file1.pdf file2.pdf merged.pdf
 
 The specification of an output file like merged.pdf  is optional.  I think 
 if you don't specify an output file, the second file just gets appended to 
 the first, but you should experiment.  You can also find out the syntax of 
 commands by typing:
 skimpdf help
 
 For more information, take a look at the SourceForge wiki for Skim:
 http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/skim-app/index.php?title=Main_Page
 
 Then use the link for the SkimPDF Command Line Tool to find out more. 
 There's also a specific SourceForge wiki for the SkimPDF command line tool:
 http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/skim-app/index.php?title=SkimPDF_Tool
 
 There are probably other sources of merge tools around the web, but this 
 works if you already have Skim anyway, and are comfortable with the Terminal 
 command line.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Aug 3, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
 
 okay, so here's the deal.
 
 I was 

Re: + Skype has new window!

[Dan Eickmeier]

I was getting this at first, and I disabled visual notifications entirely,  and 
am now not getting any announcements that Skype has a new window.   
On 2012-08-03, at 5:30 PM, Rachel Feinberg walksi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a way to use the system voice with Skype to announce who comes 
 online? Perhaps that would get around Skype saying it has a new window when 
 someone comes online or sends a chat, so it could be put to good use.
 Thanks,
 Rachel
 On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Doug Lee d...@dlee.org wrote:
 
 If your directions are correct, I am curious why just turning off
 visual notifications entirely does not get rid of the Skype has new
 window announcements. I don't have Growl, so that choice is dimmed in
 my case. But I unchecked Display visual notifications, and I still
 get numerous new window announcements. I want them to go away.
 
 On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 01:16:21PM -0500, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
  Gee, you made much too much work for yourself for nothing.  All you
  really needed to do was go in to your Sype prefs window via
  command/comma, and, from there, go to the tool bar and choose the
  notifications tab.  From there, choose the overview tab.  Inside here,
  just VO=right until you see the type of notification style.  If it
  keeps saying Skype has new window, it's set for default
  notifications.  You want to set this for Growl.  then, you're set.
 
  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
  Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
  Skype name:
  barefootedray
  On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter
  [1]markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
I just stopped Growl, and before that I removed Skype from its table
of applications for which it has set preferences, trying to get this
to stop, and that was before I updated Skype.  The behavior hasn't
changed from before the update.  I'll reboot with Growl up and the
Skype references changed to see if that fixes it.
o Mark BurningHawk Baxter
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Re: Microsoft Outlook web access and Safari

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Apple mail does support  exchange.  I'm assuming that your work account is 
probably an exchange account, so you could probably set it up in Apple mail, if 
they're using exchange 2007 or later.  I'd do that, to avoid the head aches of 
dealing with any kind of   web mail  
On 2012-08-03, at 5:18 PM, Allison Mervis alliso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone!
 In order to check my work email when I'm out of the office, I have to use MS 
 Outlook web access. On Windows, I can select either a premium or basic radio 
 button when logging in. The basic view is much more accessible. 
 Unfortunately, I'm not able to access these radio buttons on the Mac. It's as 
 though Safari skips over them. I really would rather not boot into windows 
 every time I want to quickly look at my work email. Does anyone have any 
 suggestions? I know people had previously talked about installing Chrome. Is 
 it still VO accessible or do I need to install ChromeVox? I've also heard 
 mention of something called Webkit. Is that some kind of Safari extension? 
 Forgive my ignorance on this matter, but I'm very new to the world of 
 extensions and the like. Might this webkit provide a solution? Thanks so much.
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Re: Mac mail help

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Hi kirsten, i'd say that Apple mail  is one of the best mail clients i've used. 
 I'd used outlook 2003 for a while, but didn't really like it, that was back 
when i was on Windows though.  WHat it sounds like to me, from  what you're 
describing, is that you have two accounts  set up in mail, or that you've set 
up the same account twice?  I'd take a look in Mail, preferences, accounts, to 
see if somehow,  you may have done that.  ?  Also, to get new mail, you can 
just hit command-shift-N.  HOpe this helps.
On 2012-08-03, at 4:50 PM, Kirsten Edmondson kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com 
wrote:

 Hi all, 
 I quite often have an issue with my time capsule and my BT hub/modem and I 
 lose my internet/network and can only get it back once I've unplugged the 
 time capsule and plugged it in again. Earlier this week it was gone for 
 several hours before a lot of fighting with it fixed it. Actually I had to go 
 onto BT.com and reset my password (or rather, my dad had to as I couldn't 
 because of audio capture issues) ... Because my iphone had tried to connect 
 to my email three times, and failed, BT blocked me so I had to go in and 
 reset my password ... 
 I had issues when I got it back with my iphone and my mac. 
 On my iphone I seem to have two mailboxes 
 one which seems to refer to my user name kirsten.edmondson and the other 
 which refers to my domain btinternet 
 I think it is similar with my Mac, and when I was trying to input my reset 
 password into my mac mail I found I didn't know what I was doing with mail. 
 I found the get mail button somewhere and pressed and for some reason that 
 got my mail coming in again and it's been fine since then. 
 But I have lost all my emails since before that time ... Although I regularly 
 delete, I like to keep some (those with usernames etc) and now they're all 
 gone. 
 Is there anywhere they are likely to be lurking? Or are they lost forever? 
 Aso, how do I go about changing my mail settings - if needed in future? (I'm 
 used to using outlook and this seems to be so totally different-not that I'm 
 seeking to compare, but thought it might be of use if you knew my 
 background). 
 I think I am using pop3, should I be using that or imap? 
 I wonder if this is the reason for the different mail boxes? One is perhaps 
 imap and the other perhaps pop3? I have no idea which I'm using now, though 
 it looks the same as before except for the missing messages, but might I have 
 inadvertently entered the other one without knowing? I think I did go in 
 somewhere and put in my password, but that made no difference. 
 I feel a bit stupid about this, but I'm quite confused about how to work mail 
 properly and am not sure where to look in the help. 
 
 Any advice appreciated. 
 Thanks. 
 Kirsten 
 (PS. currently still on Lion, but moving shortly). 
 
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Re: Mac mail help

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Well, the btinternet account sounds like an ISP provided account.  Not sure  if 
your ISP provides  iMap, POP3, or both.  Most ISP provided email is Pop3 
though.  You might want to call your ISP and check to see wihcih they support.  
If I have multiple devices, say a Mac, and an iPhone for example, iMap would be 
better to use.
On 2012-08-03, at 6:03 PM, Kirsten Edmondson kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com 
wrote:

 So, as you suggested I've just been in the accounts part of the preferences 
 ... thanks for reminding me where to find it - obvious really ... 
 There's only one account there, the one which says btinternet and is 
 apparently an imap and says yahoo in the description 
 I am fairly certain this is different to before Tuesday, but there is 
 definitely only one account in the accounts table. 
 Should I be using pop3? 
 Thanks. 
 Kirsten. 
 
 On 3 Aug 2012, at 22:53, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
 
 Hi kirsten, i'd say that Apple mail  is one of the best mail clients i've 
 used.  I'd used outlook 2003 for a while, but didn't really like it, that 
 was back when i was on Windows though.  WHat it sounds like to me, from  
 what you're describing, is that you have two accounts  set up in mail, or 
 that you've set up the same account twice?  I'd take a look in Mail, 
 preferences, accounts, to see if somehow,  you may have done that.  ?  Also, 
 to get new mail, you can just hit command-shift-N.  HOpe this helps.
 On 2012-08-03, at 4:50 PM, Kirsten Edmondson 
 kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Hi all, 
 I quite often have an issue with my time capsule and my BT hub/modem and I 
 lose my internet/network and can only get it back once I've unplugged the 
 time capsule and plugged it in again. Earlier this week it was gone for 
 several hours before a lot of fighting with it fixed it. Actually I had to 
 go onto BT.com and reset my password (or rather, my dad had to as I 
 couldn't because of audio capture issues) ... Because my iphone had tried 
 to connect to my email three times, and failed, BT blocked me so I had to 
 go in and reset my password ... 
 I had issues when I got it back with my iphone and my mac. 
 On my iphone I seem to have two mailboxes 
 one which seems to refer to my user name kirsten.edmondson and the other 
 which refers to my domain btinternet 
 I think it is similar with my Mac, and when I was trying to input my reset 
 password into my mac mail I found I didn't know what I was doing with mail. 
 I found the get mail button somewhere and pressed and for some reason that 
 got my mail coming in again and it's been fine since then. 
 But I have lost all my emails since before that time ... Although I 
 regularly delete, I like to keep some (those with usernames etc) and now 
 they're all gone. 
 Is there anywhere they are likely to be lurking? Or are they lost forever? 
 Aso, how do I go about changing my mail settings - if needed in future? 
 (I'm used to using outlook and this seems to be so totally different-not 
 that I'm seeking to compare, but thought it might be of use if you knew my 
 background). 
 I think I am using pop3, should I be using that or imap? 
 I wonder if this is the reason for the different mail boxes? One is perhaps 
 imap and the other perhaps pop3? I have no idea which I'm using now, though 
 it looks the same as before except for the missing messages, but might I 
 have inadvertently entered the other one without knowing? I think I did go 
 in somewhere and put in my password, but that made no difference. 
 I feel a bit stupid about this, but I'm quite confused about how to work 
 mail properly and am not sure where to look in the help. 
 
 Any advice appreciated. 
 Thanks. 
 Kirsten 
 (PS. currently still on Lion, but moving shortly). 
 
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Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion

[Dan Eickmeier]

Agreed, and   If you're outside the US, like I am, bookshare in my opinion, 
isn't really any use.  
On 2012-07-31, at 7:54 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not everyone can aford Bookshare though.
 
 Chris.
 
 On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:17 AM, David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I would definately agree, but if you remember, last year when Lion came out 
 we went through this same complaint cycle.   People want all the new stuff, 
 but they want it to all work the same and don't want to take the time and 
 energy to learn the new stuff.  Some how it should just jump into their 
 minds how to do everything.
 
 Perhaps, people should get the two new books from Bookshare about Mountain 
 Lion and study those and learn before complaining.
 
 - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:42 AM
 Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
 
 
 Hello All.
 
 Now what I might say may be something that people may not like but I am one 
 for plain speaking and will not mince my words.  However, this is my opinion.
 
 People say that they may be disappointed with one thing or another and it is 
 their right to do so of course.
 
 But when anything new is released, there is going to be bugs etc as I have 
 been a beta tester and know how hard people work to get a product into shape.
 
 So rather than people complaining as people seem to do, why not just send 
 your concerns to Apple Accessibility and rather than bashing a product work 
 with them to improve a producct?  It would be so positivve to do that and 
 sit and be passive about things as everyone would make a difference.  If 
 everything was plain sailing, life would be dull.  So chill and think to do 
 something positive.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 31 Jul 2012, at 04:41 AM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 And when the accessible web browsing experience on the mac at least
 matches windows, I'll buy it. busy busy busy, can't handel large
 amounts of text, ignores this and that on the page, the entire web
 thing was why I gave up on the mac thing and sold my mac mini. To do
 the web on the mac you have to put on those rose colored glasses that
 view everything from a pro Apple perspective and you can't require
 that it gets the job done.
 
 Jim
 
 On 7/30/12, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Been reading all these posts the last few days about how amazed
 everyone is with Mountain Lion, and not sure what all the amazement
 iss about.
 
 It only took three days as I just had to use the Force Quit for
 Safari, and all it took was actually trying to login to my Yahoo
 Fantasy Baseball Page. I pulled it up and first the first time ever
 got a cookie message that said my safari cookie had expired, after I
 got out of that window safari did nothing but Busy Busy Busy for the
 better part of ten minutes before I went to force quit.
 
 I already had been very unimpressed with Mountain Lion between the VO
 space bar not properly selecting items I clicked on to the features
 being very blah Seriously dictation is useless for anyone who knows
 how to type. The notification center is useless especially if you keep
 Night Owl open like I do to Tweet, and Imessage, I'm sorry but I fail
 to see the point as most of us have our Iphone sitting right next to
 us. I hate to be so negative, but considering how many people were
 bashing Lion which didn't have that many problems, I fail to see where
 the significant upgrade is.
 
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Re: Can't find gatekeeper settings

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They're on the general tab of security and privacy.  What you're looking for, 
is something that'll say, Allow applications downloaded from, and then there 
will be three radio buttons.  Hope that helps.
On 2012-07-28, at 9:57 PM, Allison Mervis alliso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone!
 Where do I go to change gatekeeper settings? I've been all over the various 
 tabs in security and privacy, and I can't see them anywhere. Thanks so much.
 Allison
 
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Re: Drop Box issues

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi Ray, running the latest version of the dropbox client, and am having that 
same issue with the loss of the dropbox  sub menu when hitting VO-shift-m on a 
file in my dropbox folder.  .   I was having that earlier in Lion, and I 
figured a clean install of Mountain Lion might give me that back, but nope, 
still no dropbox sub menu in the contextual menu.
On 2012-07-26, at 1:37 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 Okay.
 
 Didn't someone say we had access now to such things as the drop Box menu?  I 
 can't seem to find it.  I look on the menu bar that comes up when I press 
 control+F8 but cannot see it.  Worse yet, when I click on a file in the 
 public folder off my Drop Box dolder which is off my Home folder, I focus on 
 the file and open the short cut menu; but, cannot locate the Drop Box 
 submenu.  Any thoughts?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
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Re: Drop Box issues

[Dan Eickmeier]

THat's good, that the issue of not seeing the dropbox submenu is also something 
that you've seen on Windows as well Jeff.  Was looking in the dropbox forums 
when I was first experiencing that, particularly for some way to fix that on 
the mac, and there were some suggestions, but none of them worked for me.  Any 
ideas on that one?  What have people done to resolve it that you know of?  
Figured maybe a clean install of Mountain Lion would do the trick, as i'd 
started to have that issue in Lion as well.  After the clean install, still no 
dropbox menu off of a file.  
On 2012-07-26, at 1:56 PM, Jeff Bishop j...@jeffbishop.com wrote:

 Which version of Dropbox are you using? Use VO-Shift-M twice to get to the 
 Extras Menu and then VO left and right to see if it exists. The issue of not 
 seeing the Dropbox Submenu off of a file is something I have seen on both the 
 Mac and on Windows, it is hugely frustrating.
  
  
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
 On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:38 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Drop Box issues
  
 Okay.
  
 Didn't someone say we had access now to such things as the drop Box menu?  I 
 can't seem to find it.  I look on the menu bar that comes up when I press 
 control+F8 but cannot see it.  Worse yet, when I click on a file in the 
 public folder off my Drop Box dolder which is off my Home folder, I focus on 
 the file and open the short cut menu; but, cannot locate the Drop Box 
 submenu.  Any thoughts?
  
  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
  
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
  
 Skype name:
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Re: Drop Box issues

[Dan Eickmeier]

Interacting with the file name doesn't work here either.  Frustrating Stuff!  
Jeff, what kind of response if any, did you get from Dropbox support on this 
issue?
  
On 2012-07-26, at 3:27 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 Nope. Interacting with the filename does not work.
 
 It is rather annoying! By the way, I'm dictating my reply to this message 
 using that dictation. So, if this message looks perhaps a little strange, 
 that's why.  Seems to be working alright though. By the way, I'm using the FM 
 key twice do this.Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Did you try interacting with the filename first? I had the dropbox submenu 
 in Lion constantly, but only after interacting with the filename.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ray, running the latest version of the dropbox client, and am having 
 that same issue with the loss of the dropbox  sub menu when hitting 
 VO-shift-m on a file in my dropbox folder.  .   I was having that earlier 
 in Lion, and I figured a clean install of Mountain Lion might give me that 
 back, but nope, still no dropbox sub menu in the contextual menu.
 On 2012-07-26, at 1:37 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 Didn't someone say we had access now to such things as the drop Box menu?  
 I can't seem to find it.  I look on the menu bar that comes up when I 
 press control+F8 but cannot see it.  Worse yet, when I click on a file in 
 the public folder off my Drop Box dolder which is off my Home folder, I 
 focus on the file and open the short cut menu; but, cannot locate the Drop 
 Box submenu.  Any thoughts?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 
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Re: Braille Support Broken in Mountain Lion!

[Dan Eickmeier]

Cool, when you pair a bluetooth display on the mac, do you have to do it 
through system preferences, bluetooth, ?  Like you would with a keyboard, 
headset or any other device like that first?  And then go into VO utility under 
Braille, and set it up there?  Or is it all done in VO utility?  Was going to 
try my Humanware Brailliant BI40 over Bluetooth, and I was  assuming that I'd 
have to go into system prefs, and bluetooth, , but that didn't seem to work.  
It'd see the device, but refuse to pair.  Should I actually be doing it all 
through VO utility?  And avoid the bluetooth system preference pane, and the 
area where I can set up devices in there altogether?
On 2012-07-26, at 9:02 PM, David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have gotten both the Braille Edge and HandyTech Active Braille to work with 
 ML with no real problem other than the second time I used the Edge it ask for 
 me to pear it and the time for entering the code was very short, but I did 
 finally get it done.
 
 - Original Message - From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:06 PM
 Subject: Braille Support Broken in Mountain Lion!
 
 
 I just tried to use my RefreshaBraille 18 display this evening and it doesn't 
 work here anymore.  First off, I had previously defined it under Lion and 
 successfully used it several times.  Tonight after the ML install, it would 
 never connect.  So then I removed the device from the bluetooth list in the 
 Braille device section of VO.  Then when I tried to pair it back up, I kept 
 getting an error that VO couldn't load a device driver for this device.  Has 
 anyone else had success getting any braille displays to work under Mountain 
 Lion?
 
 I will probably give Apple a call about this.  I sure hope they didn't break 
 support like they did with the Hims devices on IOS.  BTW, I never got 
 prompted to enter any pairing codes and I usually do when hooking up the 
 Refreshabraille display.
 
 Any ideas here?
 
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Re: Braille Support Broken in Mountain Lion!

[Dan Eickmeier]

Ok cool.  Got it.  It paired up nicely, with no problem at all.  
On 2012-07-26, at 9:24 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, it is all through the vo utility. Go there, select braille from
 the table, select the displays tab, select your display (which should
 be on and ready at this point) from the table, and hit pair. You will
 then be prompted for a pairing code, and be ready as you may not have
 much time to type it. My apex's code is  (four zeros), so I
 imagine all hw displays have that same code. Type in the code as soon
 as you hear the new window sound, then hit enter as the pair button is
 default (or should be). After a second, the display should pair. If
 you have problems, try going back into bluetooth preferences and
 forgetting the display in there, then do the above procedure again.
 Also, double check the documentation to be sure the pairing code is
 right.
 
 On 7/26/12, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote:
 Cool, when you pair a bluetooth display on the mac, do you have to do it
 through system preferences, bluetooth, ?  Like you would with a keyboard,
 headset or any other device like that first?  And then go into VO utility
 under Braille, and set it up there?  Or is it all done in VO utility?  Was
 going to try my Humanware Brailliant BI40 over Bluetooth, and I was
 assuming that I'd have to go into system prefs, and bluetooth, , but that
 didn't seem to work.  It'd see the device, but refuse to pair.  Should I
 actually be doing it all through VO utility?  And avoid the bluetooth system
 preference pane, and the area where I can set up devices in there
 altogether?
 On 2012-07-26, at 9:02 PM, David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have gotten both the Braille Edge and HandyTech Active Braille to work
 with ML with no real problem other than the second time I used the Edge it
 ask for me to pear it and the time for entering the code was very short,
 but I did finally get it done.
 
 - Original Message - From: Steve Holmes
 steve.holme...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:06 PM
 Subject: Braille Support Broken in Mountain Lion!
 
 
 I just tried to use my RefreshaBraille 18 display this evening and it
 doesn't work here anymore.  First off, I had previously defined it under
 Lion and successfully used it several times.  Tonight after the ML
 install, it would never connect.  So then I removed the device from the
 bluetooth list in the Braille device section of VO.  Then when I tried to
 pair it back up, I kept getting an error that VO couldn't load a device
 driver for this device.  Has anyone else had success getting any braille
 displays to work under Mountain Lion?
 
 I will probably give Apple a call about this.  I sure hope they didn't
 break support like they did with the Hims devices on IOS.  BTW, I never
 got prompted to enter any pairing codes and I usually do when hooking up
 the Refreshabraille display.
 
 Any ideas here?
 
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Re: Drop Box issues

[Dan Eickmeier]

Nope, just install over top.  
On 2012-07-27, at 1:01 AM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 HI.  do i need to uninstall drop box before installing the new one?
  
 thanks
 
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 On 27/07/2012, at 8:30 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Well, it will tell you that when you come to an the menu.
 Or, you could just go to www.dropbox.com, and there you will find the latest 
 version of dropbox. You just install that, and then you're good to go.
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI.  how do you check which version of drop box you have?  
 
 thanks
 
 Maria Chapman
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - 
 Mahatma Gandhi 
 
 On 27/07/2012, at 7:34 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 Just make sure you have the latest version of dropbox installed. When you 
 do that, you will find that you will be able to see the dropbox menu for 
 many foggy Jews in the public folder. Just thought that might help. This 
 message has been dictated
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote:
 
 Interacting with the file name doesn't work here either.  Frustrating 
 Stuff!  Jeff, what kind of response if any, did you get from Dropbox 
 support on this issue?
   
 On 2012-07-26, at 3:27 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:
 
 Nope. Interacting with the filename does not work.
 
 It is rather annoying! By the way, I'm dictating my reply to this 
 message using that dictation. So, if this message looks perhaps a little 
 strange, that's why.  Seems to be working alright though. By the way, 
 I'm using the FM key twice do this.Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Did you try interacting with the filename first? I had the dropbox 
 submenu in Lion constantly, but only after interacting with the 
 filename.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ray, running the latest version of the dropbox client, and am 
 having that same issue with the loss of the dropbox  sub menu when 
 hitting VO-shift-m on a file in my dropbox folder.  .   I was having 
 that earlier in Lion, and I figured a clean install of Mountain Lion 
 might give me that back, but nope, still no dropbox sub menu in the 
 contextual menu.
 On 2012-07-26, at 1:37 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:
 
 Okay.
 
 Didn't someone say we had access now to such things as the drop Box 
 menu?  I can't seem to find it.  I look on the menu bar that comes up 
 when I press control+F8 but cannot see it.  Worse yet, when I click 
 on a file in the public folder off my Drop Box dolder which is off my 
 Home folder, I focus on the file and open the short cut menu; but, 
 cannot locate the Drop Box submenu.  Any thoughts?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
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Re: The drop box issue has apparently been solved

[Dan Eickmeier]

Very cool.  THey must've updated it in the last couple days or so.  At the 
release of ML, the latest dropbox version was 1.4.11, and now it's 1.4.12.  
It's been fixed for me too, in 1.4.12.  Cool.  THat was so frustrating, to not 
have that submenu off of a file.  NOw with the update to 1.4.12, i have it 
again.  Awesome.  
On 2012-07-26, at 4:07 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 Hi everyone, the subject line says it all. All I had to do was install the 
 latest version of dropbox, and, the dropbox menu no-shows exactly as it 
 should. I just don't let you all know. Thanks.
 Sincerely,
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 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
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Re: Accessible newsreader similar to Agent.

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi, not sure  who the developer is, but I believethere's an app called 
unison, that you can use for this.  I don't subscribe to any of these news 
groups, so have not tried it for accessibility.
On 2012-07-07, at 5:38 AM, Allison Mervis alliso...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi everyone.
I am interested in downloading files from binary newsgroups. I to use agent on 
my Windows machines, and was wondering if there was a feature-rich and 
accessible newsreader for the Mac. Thanks so much.
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Re: most accessible anti virus app out there for Macs

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi Ray, I really like, and have used clamxav for quite a while now. Hope this 
helps. 

Sent from my iPhone

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 Hi,
 
 I know this has come up before; but, who out there can tell me the most 
 accessible anti virus app for the Mac; or, at least, anti virus apps they 
 found most useful?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
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Re: accessibile blogspot client?

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi Eric, I would definitely recommend Mars edit. This is an awesome app for 
posting to any kind of blog. It is totally accessible with VO.  
On 2012-06-29, at 4:10 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:

I have been looking around for an accessible blogging client for the mac for a 
while. I post on bloodspot and wordpress, but the web interface doesn't play 
well with voiceover. does anyone have any suggestions for an accessible 
blogging client that I can use from my machine?

-eric

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Re: is a paid screenreader for the mac a option?

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi all, I think a paid screenreader would create an environment like we have in 
the Windows world, relying on third parties to develop scripts for apps that 
don't work well out of the box, having to wait for those scripts to be updated 
if something is broken in an app update, OS update etc.  I got tired of this 
reliance on third parties, and a  reliance   on scripts in general to make  an 
app accessible.  Also   having to spend a lot just to get access to the system, 
was somehting that I'm happy not to see on the mac.  Love it that you can just 
get a Mac, and have access to it right out of the box.  .  I like Apple's 
model, as it allows developers to test their apps, just by hitting command-f5, 
and having knowledge of three or four VO keystrokes.Usually dialog with 
developers in my experience has been good, some hasn't  been  as good, but if 
anything, we can make developers aware of the fact that their app could 
potentially be made accessible.  Regarding later versions of Skype, I'd compare 
the UI to iTUnes, where you have your source list which  in the case  of skype, 
contains items like contacts, and then recent events, such as chats,etc. Then 
to the right of that table, you have  information related  to whatever you have 
selected  in that table.  I found the skype 5 interface to be a good change, 
and haven't   had the need to use Skype 2.8 since.  
On 2012-06-26, at 4:27 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

I am aware. I have troubles with the newer version of Skype. I cannot get it to 
speak messages in the text window automatically with growl. that and the 
interface is a bit more confusing. I think I will need someone sighted to help 
me with the layout when I do get around to it.

-eric

On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

 Hi.
 I'm sure you do realize that there is a newer version of Skype available?
 This version has that keystroke.
 
 
 On 2012-06-25, at 11:14 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
 
 that key assignment was not set as default and in Skype 2.8 (which I use on 
 OS X 10.6) it doesn't even show as an assignment at all. I had to use a mute 
 Skype script. also, I have to set Skype to auto-answer as there doesn't 
 appear to be any way I can access the answer dialog (I know, I have tried 
 every method available here and no joy).
 
 -eric
 
 On Jun 25, 2012, at 6:07 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
 
 Hi.
 What's wrong with pressing command shift M to mute Skype?
 On 2012-06-25, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
 
 applescript is as (if not more) powerful than the scripting interface for 
 jaws. since it is built-on to OS X, you can do a lot more with it than you 
 could in windows with jaws scripts. Apple scripts can be set up as system 
 services, application interfaces or even assigned to shortcuts. I use one 
 such to allow me to mute the mic in Skype. I am not sure you can do this 
 with jaws. anyway, that is my take on applescripts and OS X. at least, OS 
 X is designed with accessibility in mind (of which windows is not).
 
 -eric
 
 On Jun 25, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote:
 
 VoiceOver has grown very fast in the last 3 years. Wait until Next OS is 
 released, there are going to be nice surprises on accessibility. I have 
 being working with tables in pages lastly and there is always a work 
 around things. Why don't somebody, instead of creating a separated screen 
 reader, makes Apple scripts to solve some issues? I think that VoiceOver 
 y very powerful in combination with Applescript.
 
 SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T.
 MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE.
 EN TWITTER: @macneticos
 NUESTRO BLOG EN:
 www.macneticus.blogspot.com
 Y EL PODCAST EN:`
 http://macneticos.libsyn.com
 
 
 
 El 25/06/2012, a las 20:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribió:
 
 Whole heartedly! agree.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ray Foret Jr
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:42 AM
 Subject: Re: is a paid screenreader for the mac a option?
 
 Couldn't be more wrong.  Why you want to make the Mac more like clunky 
 crashy windows?  It's not up to the screen reader to make things more 
 accessible with more and more scripts which you have to keep up with; 
 rather, that's up to the app developers.  That's how it is in the Mac 
 world.  FS make a Mac screen reader?  Are you seriously kidding me?  No 
 way it ain't gonna happen.
 
 GWMicro neither.  They already have enough on their plate worying about 
 windows type stuff.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 On Jun 25, 2012, at 7:08 AM, William Windels wrote:
 
 Hello,
 After working for more than 3 years with the mac , it's my personal 
 opinionthat more basic programs are accessible on windows then on the 
 mac platform.
 
 I find it more stable to work on the mac because of the integration of 
 the screenreader voiceover with the osx.
 The fact that the hardware is also adapted for us by the trackpad and 
 

Re: can't rewind or fast forward in iTunes.

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi Maria, I find this happens to me, particularly when listening to podcasts.  
One that it consistently seems to happen with is Tech Access weekly.  Are 
you  finding that this is happening with podcasts?  Music or what?  If 
podcasts, and if you are subscribed to TAW, let me know if you can reproduce 
this, with that specific podcast.  .  
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HI.

i believe the command for fast forwarding is command option right arrow? is 
this correct? 
 if I hold down command option and press right arrow usually the file im 
trying to play goes back to the start. 

does anyone have any idea why i can't rewind or fast forward?

thanks
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Re: completely removing mail accounts from the computer

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi May,  go to mail, preferences, , accounts. Once in there you can remove any 
accounts that you have set up so you can set up new ones. Take care, hope this 
helps.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-06-12, at 2:02 PM, May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi there. Can someone tell me where I go to remove all information in regards 
 to mail accounts from my mac? I want no saved settings of it anywhere.
 
 I need to set up my new accounts and don't need it keep trying to pull up the 
 old stuff from somewhere in it's memory.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: No Carbonite on the Mac

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My experience with carbonite is that it actually is  fairly accessible.  ONe 
issue  I do have, is  when I attempt to look at my backup, I can't  drill down 
into my backup, like I can any folder that has sub-folders   in finder, I seem 
to get taken back to the top level of my backup when attempting to do this.  
It's interesting that Carbonite support actually said it's totally inaccessible 
with VO.  the  system pref pane is actually not too bad in my opinion, with the 
 exception of that one issue.  Carbonite like a lot of third-party  apps does 
have an item in the menu bar, which we cannot access.  Aside from  that, I've 
actually been very happy with carbonite  on the mac.  

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Re: Is Piezo Accessible?

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Yes, Piezo is very very accessible.  I've had no problems with it.  Take care.  
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Hello List:

Is the Piezo app accessible? If not, which app could I use as an alternative? I 
am trying to record activities from other apps, such as Radium.

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Re: program to convurt *.ogg files to *.mp3 files?

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Hi, the batch converter in Amadeus pro will do this very nicely. Hth

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 hey all i have some *.ogg files that i want to convert to *.mp3 files
 please can some one recommend a program to do this with?
 
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Re: Autologin and auto start VO?

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Hi Bill, those options are under the users and groups preference pane in system 
preferences.  ONce you click the users and groups  button, you'll find an item 
that'll   say Users, groups, and log in options, list.  Interact with that, and 
go down to log in options.  Stop interacting, then if you VO-right arrow from 
there, you'll find both the settings you want, to control auto-login, and 
whether   VoiceOver will start on the log in screen or not.  HTH.  
On Nov 26, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

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 I had to reinstall Lion, and now for the life of me I can’t remember where or 
 find the settings for auto login and to start VO automatically.  Any reminder 
 much appreciated.
  
 
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Re: Still having dropbox issues

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi, This menu bar icon that he's referring  to, is on the status  menu where 
you have your wifi status, the clock, your bluetooth status, etc.  A lot of 
apps will  put status icons up there.  Unfortunately, we do not have access to 
those which are  put there by third-party developers with VoiceOver.  We sort 
of had access in previous versions of Mac OS X, but even that, wasn't proper 
keyboard access like we should have.  We had to route the mouse, to the 
VoiceOver cursor, and then use the  physical mouse, or the trackpad, constantly 
checking where the mouse was with the VO keystroke to do that.  With the 
release of Lion, that access that we did have, via that workaround, 
unfortunately has broke.  For some reason, from what i've heard, developers 
can't even expose their menu bar icons  to VoiceOver, so that we can  have 
access to them,  , as that is an API which Apple does not make available to 
developers.  Why they never did make it available in the first place, , is 
beyond me.  As I have done, I'd encourage you to write to Apple accessibility, 
to let them know about this issue.  If we could have access to these 
third-party menu bar icons, that would take away barriers that we currently 
have, with the lack of access that we have to them now.   .   
On Nov 24, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Kirsten Edmondson wrote:

 Hi, I'm still not having any luck with dropbox. 
 I got a response from the tech guys at dropbox.com and he said I should try 
 unlinking and re-linking my dropbox so that hopefully I would then get access 
 to all my files-as it is currently empty and I know it's quite full in 
 reality. 
 He said to go 
 1) Right click the Dropbox icon in the system tray at the bottom right of 
 your screen, by the clock on Windows or menu bar at the top of your screen on 
 Mac.
 2) Select 'Preferences'
 3) Click the Account tab and then the 'Unlink' button
 
  So where is this menu bar/icon he's talking about? I know exactly what he's 
 talking about regarding Windows, but not for Mac. 
 If I open dropbox in the applications window it says 'dropbox has no windows' 
 and every time I try to get to preferences it says 'finder preferences'. 
 Thanks. 
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Re: Trouble with moving items dock

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Hi Tracy, i'm assuming you're wanting to do this on the mac.  IF you want to 
put anything  on the doc, find the folder, application, or whatever it  is you 
want to put on there, and hit command shift-t, hope this helps.  
On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Traci wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Lately, I'm having a hard time moving items to the dock.  Lol, I've 
 successfully done this before, but just recently I must be messing up.
 
 I'd appreciate some troubleshooting tips, or guesses on where I'm going wrong.
 
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Re: Getting Rid Of A Password.

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Hi George, actually.  IT's a good idea to have it.  If you left it blank, don't 
know how you could authenticate, for anyhting that mayprompt for an admin 
password.  
On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote:

 Hello!
 
 I happened to type a password when I went through the setup process on my 
 iMAC, how do I get rid of it?  I don't want it anymore, thanks.
 
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Re: cleaning out mac hard drive?

[Dan Eickmeier]

Ah ok cool.  I've been interested in Drive genius, and I think a Podcast on it 
will definitely decide whether I get it or not.   
On Apr 4, 2011, at 5:57 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

 It is very accessible for most functions. THe only thing that is not apparent 
 is the warning window that you need to access via window chooser. THis window 
 just warns you that data loss could occur, but hey anytime you start mucking 
 about with the data, anything is possible. I want to do a podcast or at least 
 a recording on this. SO, on my list of things to do and hope to get to it 
 shortly. 
 On Apr 3, 2011, at 11:43 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
 
 I've heard a lot about Drive Genius in a lot of hte Main stream mac 
 podcasts.  Exactly how accessible is this App?  
 On Apr 3, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
 Yes it does. I picked up a copy of Drive Genius more for its capabilities 
 to repair damaged drives etc. An expensive program, but one that is worth 
 having in the toolkit for sure. I'm also working with Prosoft Engineering 
 on some tweaks to their Data Rescue package, which is again,perhaps a 
 little expensive for some, but another tool well worth having when you 
 consider the cost of data recovery services. :)
 
 On Apr 3, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Ashley Cox wrote:
 
 Yes, true. there is a nice program called iDefrag if you really want to 
 defrag. But OSX does some defragmentation automatically.
 
 
 On 03/04/2011 11:14, Scott Howell wrote:
 Hi Ashley,
 
 You are correct; however, if you work with large files or move a lot of 
 data around, your drive can become fragmented and may require some help.I 
 do not know about all the different utilities available, but I found 
 Drive Genius at http://www.prosofteng.com that does a number of things as 
 well as defrag the drive. Of course the most valuable features of this 
 program is not defragging.
 
 Scott Howell
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Apr 3, 2011, at 5:04, Ashley Coxashleycox...@googlemail.com  wrote:
 
 there is little to know defragmenting needed, and the mac doesn't use a 
 registry. Repair permissions and check the disk using disc utility. Then 
 under applications in utilities, go into terminal. In the terminal, type 
 this:
 sudo periodic daily weekly monthly
 press enter, type your password, and press enter again. that'll run the 
 mac's built in maintanance scripts.
 ash
 
 
 On 03/04/2011 02:38, Alex Hall wrote:
 Hi all,
 Can anyone recommend some free utilities to defragment a hard drive
 and clear out registry? Here is how little I know about macs: do they
 even use a registry? Does the file system fragment like Windows' ntfs?
 I am asking on behalf of a friend who has an older mac with 10.4. TIA.
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Re: cleaning out mac hard drive?

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I've heard a lot about Drive Genious in a lot of hte Main stream mac podcasts.  
Exactly how accessible is this App?  
On Apr 3, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

 Yes it does. I picked up a copy of Drive Genius more for its capabilities to 
 repair damaged drives etc. An expensive program, but one that is worth having 
 in the toolkit for sure. I'm also working with Prosoft Engineering on some 
 tweaks to their Data Rescue package, which is again,perhaps a little 
 expensive for some, but another tool well worth having when you consider the 
 cost of data recovery services. :)
 
 On Apr 3, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Ashley Cox wrote:
 
 Yes, true. there is a nice program called iDefrag if you really want to 
 defrag. But OSX does some defragmentation automatically.
 
 
 On 03/04/2011 11:14, Scott Howell wrote:
 Hi Ashley,
 
 You are correct; however, if you work with large files or move a lot of 
 data around, your drive can become fragmented and may require some help.I 
 do not know about all the different utilities available, but I found Drive 
 Genius at http://www.prosofteng.com that does a number of things as well as 
 defrag the drive. Of course the most valuable features of this program is 
 not defragging.
 
 Scott Howell
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Apr 3, 2011, at 5:04, Ashley Coxashleycox...@googlemail.com  wrote:
 
 there is little to know defragmenting needed, and the mac doesn't use a 
 registry. Repair permissions and check the disk using disc utility. Then 
 under applications in utilities, go into terminal. In the terminal, type 
 this:
 sudo periodic daily weekly monthly
 press enter, type your password, and press enter again. that'll run the 
 mac's built in maintanance scripts.
 ash
 
 
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Re: Can voiceover speak Kurgish or Russian?

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I'd have a look at the assistiveware site, , or maybe Cepstral would have 
voices in those languages, if Assistiveware doesn't?  
On Feb 18, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote:

 Hey folks. An instructor in training here at the Louisiana Center for the 
 Blind is from Kurgistan. She was curious if there were voices available for 
 either Kurgish or Russian. I'm sure it's not available by default in the OS 
 itself, but I know that their are folks who have purchased voices in several 
 different languages. Any help would be very much appreciated in helping her 
 figure this out. Thanks so much.
 
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Re: adium and adding contacts?

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HEy jOhn, so I'm not alone.  Good to hear that.  .  I'm getting the same hting 
here with a contact of mine, and  they can't seem to add me either.  
On Feb 6, 2011, at 5:53 PM, John D. Lipsey wrote:

 Hi guys:
 
 I've been using Adium forever, well since I got my mac, and am over all happy 
 with it.  Recently, I've tried to add three people to MSN messenger.  One 
 with a hotmail, and two with non-SN addresses.  That is they're not 
 associated with hotmail, live.com, etc.  In all three cases, I was unable to 
 add them.  One of them was able to add me, but the others weren't.  All I 
 know for sure is I'm not the only person having this issue.  One of the 
 people I'm trying to add is using Miranda on a windows machine.  I'm not sure 
 if that would make a difference or not, but just figured I'd throw it out 
 there.
 
 Any assistance in this matter would be awesome.
 Thanks.
 
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Date received column only showing the date, and not the time as well?

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HI, I noticed that in my inbox particularly, that my date received column, is 
only showing as yesterday, or if I go further back, January 13, 2011, and not 
the time as well.  In other mailboxes, the time is showing as well, like it 
should.  COuld I somehow ahve acccidentally resized  the date received column 
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Re: 1password for Mac is now even more accessible

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Hey that's great.  I'd gotten this app before,  and not really made any  use 
out of it due to the issues it had, and couldn't really understand how to put 
stuff into it.  So took it off and haven't installed it since.  wanted  to wait 
until accessibility improved.  And from your email here Bret, it looks like it 
finally has.  Will definitely be giving it another shot .  
On Jan 2, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Brett Campbell wrote:

   1password on the Mac has just become even more accessible with 
 VoiceOver.  It worked great before, but now your individual log ins, wallet 
 items etc. are labeled in their perspective table.  The developers were kind 
 enough to give me a heads up, following an email I sent to them months ago.  
 The update is in beta, so if you wish to try it prior to it's official 
 release, enable beta updates in the 1password preferences.
 
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Re: IPad questions

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Carolyn, regarding the bluetooth keyboard, when I got one, i had used it with 
my 3rd gen iPot touch, and then I wanted to use it on my Mac.  The mac was 
never seeing it as an available device.  Finally, I went into settings, on hte 
iPod, and then bluetooth, and told the iPod to forget the device.  I was then 
able to pair it just fine with my mac.  hth

On Dec 25, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

 Hi listers:
 I sent my first ever email on the iPad to this group.  What do you know: it 
 got rejected.  It said the message was rejected by the recipient, and that I 
 should check with the recipient's domain.  That makes no sense, as it is 
 receiving emails from this group.  Any thoughts?
 
 Ok, second:  I keep getting a message saying, double-tap to dismiss pop-up 
 window.  I don't understand why there's a pop-up window, and why that message 
 seems to take up the whole screen?
 
 3rd: My Apple Wireless keyboard works fine with my iPhone, but will not pair 
 with the iPad.  it seems to turn off when it sees the iPad, or something 
 strange like that.  (who'd have thought these two wouldn't get along?  It 
 seemed like a match made in Heaven.:)
 
 Ok, 4th and last for now:  How can I change the archive mail option to 
 delete instead?  I don't find it in settings under mail.
 I would really appreciate any help.  Please feel free to email off list if 
 these are just too much.:)
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Re: anyone using skype 5 beta with os10 having this issue

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Hi Sarah, i'm experiencing this as well, and I find it happens after i've 
cleared my recent conversations, and I get a chat after that. I've found that 
going back and  forth a bit between that conversation, and the next item above 
or below that, and then stoping interaction with the sources list, can get it 
to refresh.  THis is a very annoying bug however.  HOpe it'll be fixed in 
another build, whenever another build will be released.  
On Dec 14, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 Hello to all. When a chat comes in sometimes the chat  html frame won't  
 refresh. I've made sure dom mode is on and the only way to do this that is 
 refresh the window is to restart skype. I cannot consistently reproduce this. 
 but I sent feedback about this. I don't know if this  is a voice over bug 
 with skype tat all or not but can anyone provide a fix or a work around 
 besides restarting skype and explaining to the contact that refreshing the 
 window is not working.
 
 
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Re: mudding on the mac

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mudding is playing text adventure games.  WHich i never did on WIndows  and  
don't really care for at all.  Certainly for those that  like to do it, there 
clearly isn't an accessible  solution for the mac yet.  
On Dec 9, 2010, at 4:26 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote:

 Hello!
 Has anyone found a proper mudding client for the mac?
 I have mushclient on windows but  I just got a mac and I'd like to
 find a mud client.
 
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Re: apple mail question

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 Hi marlaina, there absolutely is.  Try the address panel, which you can access 
from the window menu in mail.  This should  give you what you're  looking for.  
HTH.   
On Dec 8, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

 In Outlook and Outlook express, i could visit my address list and choose 
 individually from among the contacts to send a group email either in the to, 
 cc or bcc field.  I could arrow down and do alt t, alt c or alt b as the case 
 may warrant.  Is there any way to do this in apple mail?
 
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Re: WMA fileson the mac

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Hi, try vlc from http://videolan.org/
This will play .WMA  files just fine.  So long as they aren't  protected WMA 
files.  As far as playing protected  WMA's, not sure  what you could  do about 
that.  
On Dec 8, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Christina wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Is there a way to play or convert a WMA audio file to mp3 or something that 
 will play on my mac or iphone?  I don't think these WMA files are the 
 protected WMA files but I do not know how to find this information out for 
 sure.  All I know is that the files I want to hear are in WMA format.
 
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Re: problems saving using save as in text edit and pages

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H, interesting.  Can't say I've experienced this in either app.  Maybe try 
a permissions repair?  Don't know for sure , but maybe something  is screwed up 
with permissions somehow?  To do this do the following:
1.  Go to the finder,
2.  HIt command-shift-U to go to your utilities folder, which is a sub-folder 
of your applications folder
3.  Find disc utility, and VO space on that, or command-O, either will open it
4.  ONce in disc utility,  one of the first things  you'll come across is  a  
table where you can select the drive you want.  IN that table, select macintosh 
HD by interacting with VO-shift-down arrow, and VO up or down arrow, until you 
hear Macintosh Hd.  5.  ONce you've selected MAcintosh HD, stop interacting 
with that table with VO-shift-up arrow.  6.  VO-right arrow over to the first 
aid tab, and select it with VO-space.   7.  On that tab, you'll find a repair 
permissions button, click that with  VO-space.  If you go further to the right, 
you'll then see progress as to how the permissions repair is coming  along.  
When it is done, try saving a file in either text edit or pages again.  Even 
thoughyou  probably  already know about interacting and stopping 
interacting in tables Marlaina, I'm posting these detailed steps , as it seems 
we're getting people new to the mac, or who are thinking  about getting a mac,  
on this list all the time.  
On Nov 28, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

 Ok, this is a weird one!  I suddenly, as of about 3 days ago, can't do 
 save-as in either Text Edit or Pages and make my work save.  In each app, I 
 do these steps and get the same results:
 
 press command shift s for save as
 type in the new file name (I have to do this because of a need to save 
 previous drafts)
 navigate using either vo right or tab to select the file type which is always 
 word 97
 navigate using vo right or tab to the default save button
 press vo space and vo says save button pressed
 
 results:  nothing; the save-as dialogue box is still open, and the file does 
 not save.  I have tried all the above and pressing enter on the default save 
 button but sill get the same result.  My husband turns vo off and mouses 
 around and it works for him just fine.  I have checked with vo f5 to see that 
 the mouse is on the save button, and it always is.
 
 Did my Air get ticked off at me because I took it on a great cruise, or is it 
 ticked off at me because we're back on dry land!  Seriously, I'm looking at 
 having to do a good bit of editing in the next couple of days and this is 
 making me crazy!  Any help would be really appreciated.  As far as I know, I 
 have not changed anything anywhere; this just started and at first it was 
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Re: selling old macbook?

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Hi Erik, not sure if the site is US only, or whehter it's a golobal site, but 
to get a good idea on what she should sell it for, try putting information 
about it into gazelle.com

On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:03 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

 Hi guys,
 
 one of my clients bought a macbook in 2009 and then shelved mac OS in favour 
 of windows.  Now of course her laptop isn't working properly and she is 
 feeling defeatist about the whole thing.  One of her lines of enquiry has to 
 do with selling her current macbook and buying a reasonable windows 7 
 machine.  I'm not really in favour of this no matter what she decides, but I 
 need to know, what is fare market value for her notebook, assuming that she 
 still has a year and a half worth of apple care on the thing?
 
 I think it's the very first 13 inch macbook pro.  The one with the sd card 
 slot on the left hand side.  It's not customized in any way, so 2.2 ghz 
 processer, 250 gb hard drive, 4 gb ram, OS10.5 leopard.
 
 assuming that it has the remainder of her apple care, what would you say is 
 fare market value for the computer?  I tried looking it up on Ebay, but I 
 can't find anyone selling used macbooks.  They are all new, and priced 
 accordingly of course.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Doing a put in the land of ftp

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Hi marlaina,  I'm assuming you're trying  to do  this via the ,  finder, don't 
think you can upload this way, think you can only download.  I'd highly 
recommend checking out Transmit  from  http://panic.com
It's an absolutely excellent client.  Hope that helps.  If you need help with  
Transmit if you decide to get it, email me off  list and I can work with  you.  

On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

 Hi folks, or should I say gurus.
 
 I need to ftp a file to the ACB Radio incoming folder.  I can get there just 
 fine, navigate to the file I want to put, but then I'm dead in the water.  I 
 tried doing a copy of the file, then navigating back to the location in which 
 I want to put it and pressing cmd-v to paste but all I get is a beep.  This 
 is how put can be accomplished in windows; how do I do it with Mac?
 
 Thanks again for all the help.  I'd prefer to be able to do this using only 
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Re: Been away too long from Yurufukuru - a couple of stupid questions

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I've also disabled auto complete, as I found it to get in the way, rather than 
help me to use the client the way I wanted.  .  
On Nov 13, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 Hello. contact the dev about the auto complete issue. As far as your first 
 question I hit cmd n and hit follow @username. Oh and I turn auto complete 
 off btw. I also can't get that sucker to work. lol!
 
 S
 On Nov 13, 2010, at 7:00 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 
 Hello.
 Here comes the second stupid question. This time, it's about the Twitter 
 client Yurufukuru. I was playing with it a while a couple days ago and i had 
 a hard time, or rather a struggle to make it do what i wanted. I couldn't 
 for the life of me figure out how to follow a user. No matter where i 
 looked, there didn't seem to be a way to follow a user.
 Secondly i had a really hard time with the auto completion feature. No 
 matter how i did it, i could not get it to accept that i wanted to DM a user 
 not in the list, i had to give up alltogether, because the autocompletion 
 put the cursor where i didn't want it and i couldn't find a way to actually 
 place the cursor where i wanted it, so that i could complete the name of the 
 user i wished to DM. Once i managed to convinse the auto completion that i 
 would write to a person not in the auto completion list, but that was only 
 once, and Lord knows how i did it, so if anyone has some hints about how one 
 goes about to make working with Yurufukuru less of a battle and more of a 
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Re: Getting rid of DropBox

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Dropbox is an absolute hastle to work with on the Mac,   And it's a shame, but 
the dropbox people do not seem to be the most responsive when it comes to 
accessibility  of the mac client.  
On Nov 8, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 Has anybody tried deleting the DropBox application from the MAC yet?
 
 When I go to the application in the applications folder and choose the move 
 to trash option, I get the message that the program is open so it can't be 
 trashed.
 
 Now, when I go ahead and do a cmd+o to open it, I get the message saying that 
 DropBox has no windows and I can't do anything to close the program.
 
 I think that some info is escaping VO, so therefore this question here on 
 this list.
 
 Could be a general procedure that I am doing wrong here.
 
 Hope to hear from someone who managed to delete the application.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Skype 5

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Not hearing any  sounds when people come online, or go offline, even though  I 
have those set.  I've got the speak text checkbox also checked for both of 
those events,  and am getting no spoken notifications either for   contacts 
coming online, or going off.  
On Nov 6, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:

 I can confirm that I am not hearing any other son effects from Skype 5 other 
 than the one that rings when I have a call.  Also, when that call does come 
 in, it doesn't speak the name of the party calling, just says contact.   
 I've made sure that the mute all sound effects box, is *UN*-checked, and 
 wonder if I'm missing something, or is that just a big?
 
 
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Re: [Bulk] skype 5 pretty nice though

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I've found this as well Ray, with the  alerts.  Even though i have them set up, 
I'm getting no sounds, or no spoken notifications when people are coming  
online, or going offline.
On Nov 5, 2010, at 4:05 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 the thing I have found is that none of the alerts work.  contacts signing in, 
 or out, no alerts play sounds or speak, with the exception of receiving 
 calls.  Some custom sounds witch are correctly formatted will not play 
 either.  As for conference calling, I understand they are working on this and 
 will have a more accessible fix for the next release, which, as I gather it, 
 will be the actual public version of the 5.0 or maybe even 5.1 release.  I 
 didn't see any 5.1 but the latest build I saw for this version was 5.0.0.6378
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype Name:
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 On Nov 5, 2010, at 2:58 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 I have just finished looking at the alerts customisations and wondered if 
 anyone knew if growl notifications broke when receiving messages etc.
 
 I'm a bit confused about the interface when it comes to someone texting so i 
 placed all the alerts so i know where to head when i receive something.
 
 And its always better to choose when to reply to a dialogue as before skype 
 used to force a new contact's message on oneself while typing to someone 
 else for example.
 
 Diving back to it 
 
 
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Re: Skype 5.0 Beta and conference calling

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You can use command-option-left and right arrow to switch conversations.  HTH.  
 
On Nov 5, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Brandon Misch wrote:

 has anyone figured out how to move from one conversation to another when you 
 have more than one or how to get skype to behave like it does in the release 
 version so conversations appear in a different window? 
 
 On Nov 4, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:
 
 I was wondering if anyone has figured out how to do Skype conferences with 
 the new Skype 5 beta? I've looked everywhere and can't quite figure out how 
 to do it. If anyone has figured this out, please let us know?
 Thanks,
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Re: Conversations View

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Yes it certainly is.  SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by thread. 
 
On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

 
 
 All,
 
 is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view,
 in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that
 you can delete entire threads if you wish.
 
 I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I
 have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of.
 
 thanks.
 
 
 
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Re: messengers

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Hi Damon, yep, Adium works really well,  with MSN messenger,  AOL messenger, 
and a whole bunch of other IM services.  If you need help feel free to email  
off-list.   
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 OK, so I realize that I can do mail on my mac, but what can I do about 
 accessing aol or msn messengers on the Mac. Here’s my deal.
  
 Been using a MacBook pro for a while, mostly booting into win xp using 
 bootcamp. Well, kind of think I am stupid for doing this, and figured that 
 maybe it’s time to learn mac osx leopard. So, going to remove the bootcamp 
 partition, at least I think I may do that, not entirely sure, and want to 
 make sure I can still get on msn or aol. I think there’s a program called 
 adium, but not sure. Haven’t gotten very far into this. So, any help you can 
 give me would be huge. Thanks.
  
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Re: password protecting documents

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Hi Laura, what you could do, if you wanted to password protect a document, or a 
set of documents, is use disk utility to created an incripted .dmg file.  Disk 
utility is foun under /applications/utilities.  Open it, and you'll find 
options under a new submenu uner hte file menu for createing disk images.  YOu 
can create one from a folder, or create a blank one, and put files in it as you 
want.  
Hope this helps.  .  
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 Is it possible to password protect documents? In MS word I could set 
 documents so that you have to have a password to open the document. IS this 
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 Thanks,
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Cannot get an Apple bluetooth keyboard to pair with my Mac, but it'll pair with my iPod touch?

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Hey all, got an Apple bluetooth keyboard today, so I could use the bluetooth 
keyboard support in iOS on my iPod touch.  I was able to pair it successfully 
with  my touch, and it worked  well.  However I cannot seem to pair it with  my 
Mac, as i want to use it with my iMac as well.  I turned off bluetooth on my 
iPod so  that the  keyboard wouldn't be connected to it.  Went into the status  
menus on my Mac, under bluetooth, , turned bluetooth on, and went to setup 
bluetooth device, and there weren't any discoverable devices.  WOuld've thought 
that the keyboard would've been seen, but it wasn't.  Any thoughts anyone?  

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Re: Cannot get an Apple bluetooth keyboard to pair with my Mac, but it'll pair with my iPod touch?

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What would be the best way to unpair the  keyboard from my iPod touch?  Turn 
bluetooth off on the touch?  
On Sep 9, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

 Hi.
 
 Try to unpair it with your IPhone, and then pair it with the mac.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Sep 9, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 Try turning the keyboard off, then back on. When a device first connects to 
 it, it turns off Discoverable so other devices will not see it. Turning it 
 back on puts it in discovery mode again if nothing connects to it right away.
 
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 Hey all, got an Apple bluetooth keyboard today, so I could use the 
 bluetooth keyboard support in iOS on my iPod touch.  I was able to pair it 
 successfully with  my touch, and it worked  well.  However I cannot seem to 
 pair it with  my Mac, as i want to use it with my iMac as well.  I turned 
 off bluetooth on my iPod so  that the  keyboard wouldn't be connected to 
 it.  Went into the status  menus on my Mac, under bluetooth, , turned 
 bluetooth on, and went to setup bluetooth device, and there weren't any 
 discoverable devices.  WOuld've thought that the keyboard would've been 
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Re: Cannot get an Apple bluetooth keyboard to pair with my Mac, but it'll pair with my iPod touch?

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Hey Ricardo, thanks a bunch.  THat totally helped.  
On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:20 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 No.
 
 Double tap on more under the name of the BT keyboard and delete the info from 
 the touch.
 
 hth
 On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
 
 What would be the best way to unpair the  keyboard from my iPod touch?  Turn 
 bluetooth off on the touch?  
 On Sep 9, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 Try to unpair it with your IPhone, and then pair it with the mac.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Sep 9, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 Try turning the keyboard off, then back on. When a device first connects 
 to it, it turns off Discoverable so other devices will not see it. 
 Turning it back on puts it in discovery mode again if nothing connects to 
 it right away.
 
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 bluetooth keyboard support in iOS on my iPod touch.  I was able to pair 
 it successfully with  my touch, and it worked  well.  However I cannot 
 seem to pair it with  my Mac, as i want to use it with my iMac as well.  
 I turned off bluetooth on my iPod so  that the  keyboard wouldn't be 
 connected to it.  Went into the status  menus on my Mac, under bluetooth, 
 , turned bluetooth on, and went to setup bluetooth device, and there 
 weren't any discoverable devices.  WOuld've thought that the keyboard 
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Re: mail cliant.

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Hi Ian, this is what I think you're wanting here.  YOu can go into the mailbox 
menu, select the new mailbox item,  and setup what Mail  refers to as a 
mailbox, and then move messages into there.  Hope this helps.  
On Sep 5, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Ian McNamara wrote:

 hi all how do i create a folder in the mail cliant as i have an email i need 
 to keep. 
 
 thanks very much 
 
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Re: Saving VO Preferences

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Hi linda, it shouldn't  matter where you save this file.  HOpe this helps.  
On Aug 26, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Linda Adams wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I haven't had any problems with Voiceover but after reading some recent 
 messages, I decided I should save my preferences which I haven't done since 
 buying my Macbook.
 
 My question is the best way to do this and where to save the file.
 
 I located the export preferences in the file menu under preferences in the  
 VO utility  which seems very simple.  I've read older messages which talked 
 about going to the library and saving the Voiceover 3 folder and others 
 saying to save plist files.
 
 Will the export preferences be all inclusive?
 
 Now, the silly question is where to save it?  It seems to not matter but I'm 
 still wondering where.
 
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Re: Logging On to My College's Wi-Fi

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Hi Kimberly, do you have cursor tracking turn on?  And your keyboard focus set 
to follow where  you are with Voiceover in VO utility?  THat's what   it sounds 
like is happening for you there. .  
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 Hi Folks:
 
 As the subject states, I am having difficulty getting on to my college's 
 Wi-Fi with the Mac.  My Mac sees the Wi-Fi okay, but the trouble comes when I 
 try to log in with a user name and password.  When I open Web Kit or Safari, 
 I am presented with a Clean Access Authorization screen (I believe the name 
 Cisco is on there somewhere) which asks me for my user name and password.  
 Here's where the trouble begins.
 
 I VO right and left arrow to the user name and password fields and begin to 
 type my user name.  I then right VO right arrow over to the password field, 
 which is confirmed by VO and begin to type, however, the characters are just 
 added to my user name in the user name field even though VO has confirmed 
 that I am in the password field.  Very frustrating.  It is as if VO doesn't 
 read this page correctly.  I tried interacting on the user name and password 
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Re: External HD

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Was going to suggest the same thing, since storage is getting cheaper and 
cheaper, even though there are ways that you could get a mac to both read and  
write to NTFS formatted drives.  
On Aug 7, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote:

 The Mac can read NTFS partitions, but out of the box, it can't write to them. 
  With that said, it'd probably best if you were able to reformat the disc to 
 the Mac format.
  In my opinion, go head and get another 1TB drive, as they just keep 
 getting cheaper and cheaper, and have that Mac formatted.  Then, you can copy 
 the files over to the Mac formatted and have 2 copies of all your files.  You 
 can never back that stuff up enough:)
 
 Hope that helps
 Justin
 On Aug 7, 2010, at 2:10 AM, AndyBaracco wrote:
 
 i just realized that I posted this inquiry to the wrong list.  it happens 
 when you have been up since 4:15 AM.
 i am considering buying a mac. I have a  Seagate 1 TB external USB HD that 
 is about 3 quarters full of audio books, music, etc.  it is formatted NTFS. 
 Could i use this HD on a Mac, and what would i have to do first?  Would it 
 have to be reformatted and, if so, would i have to back up the media 
 somewhere else and restore it when the reformat was accomplished?
  
 Andy
  
 
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Re: Iphone and braille note apex

[Dan Eickmeier]

In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't  supported by iOS 4  to be 
used as braille displays.  Best idea though to be sure,  is to check the apple 
accessibility page at http://apple.com/accessibility.  
On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote:

 I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the
 services offered were things like hands-free and serial. somehow the
 iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying searching
 but nothing appears
 
 Isaac Obie wrote:
 Hello Sonia,
 If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user guide, in
 there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones.
 Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my braille
 display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide and see
 what you can find on pairing with a cellphone
 Isaac
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 To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM
 Subject: Iphone and braille note apex
 
 
 Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to
 pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused.
 Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I read
 something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need
 one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks
 everyone. :-)
 
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Re: Keeping a folder synchronized with an SD card?

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Not sure how accessible this app is, but i've heard of an app called Chrono 
sync from Leo Laporte, and I guess it essentially uses RSync to do what it 
does, but.   you'd get a GUI instead.  
On Aug 5, 2010, at 11:09 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 would RSync work? I dont' use the command line but just wondering.
 
 Takje care.
 
 S
 On Aug 5, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I don't use an IPod, so I doubt ITunes will do this. I keep all of my music 
 and podcasts on my Victer reader stream. Does anyone know of any software 
 that can automatically keep a folder on the hard drive synchronized with the 
 SD card from the stream? If I add or remove anything from either location, 
 I'd like that to be automatically reflected on the other side the next time 
 I insert the card.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: skype question

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Hi Greg, if you tab around in there, you'll find areas where you can enter your 
skype name, and password.  It requires use of the tab key to get around that.  
HTH.  
On Aug 6, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:

 Hello all,
 I just got my mac last saturday and I'm really liking it so far. The
 learning curve is quite a challenge but I can at least use it.
 
 I'm having trouble setting up skype on my machine. I have downloaded
 and opened the software, but when it is running I can't find where to
 put my log in information. All I see on the main screen besides the
 title, close and minimize buttons, is an image I can interact with. I
 tried looking in the menus and preferences dialogue for some setting
 to change but couldn't come up with anything. Any suggestions of how
 to log in with an existing account? How do I find that screen?
 
 Thanks for the help.
 
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Re: Keeping a folder synchronized with an SD card?

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Tried Chrono sync very briefly, and it looks very accessible.  

On Aug 6, 2010, at 2:46 AM, Alfredo wrote:

 If chrono syncs works for you, can you please let me know.  If it is
 not accessible please let us know so taht we can all ask the developer
 of chrono sync to make accessible.
 Alfredo
 
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Re: getting status of skype contacts

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As far as changing the mood message, what you can do, is use your VO keys to go 
to the edit profile button, and  then hit tab.  After you hit tab, you'll be 
put into an edit box where  you can type your mood text and hit return.  
On Aug 6, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:

 Hi Chris,
 
 I don't know if there is a way to see status in Skype. If  there is, I'm 
 unsure what it is. As far as the mood message, I think it is in the file menu 
 or maybe in preferences. I'm not sure.  I know I have change mine, but can't 
 remember how I did it. Well, I hope that helped. Have a great day!
 
 Allison
 
 My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
 
 
 On Aug 6, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote:
 
 Is there a way to see the status of a contact like away, available, etc. in 
 skype?  
 also how do you change your mood text in skype for the mac?
 
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Re: playlists in itunes

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Hi Sonia, you certainly can add tracks to playlists, it's just a matter of 
selecting them, doing a VO-shift-M, and in that contextual menu, there'll be an 
add to playlist submenu, and in there, you can select the playlist you created, 
and  then hit VO-space on that.  As far as deleting tracks from  that playlist, 
select that playlist in the sources  table, go over to the  songs table, and 
then you'll see the  tracks which you've put into that playlist, and you can  
delete from there.  Hope this helps.  Are you relatively new to the mac?  If so 
welcome to  the mac community.  THis list is very helpful.   
On Aug 5, 2010, at 3:41 PM, Sonnia wrote:

 Hi all. I'm trying to organize my itunes library content by playlist.
 I got some sighted assistance with it. My brother clicked on new
 playlist and dragged/dropped the particular songs in to that new
 playlist. Is there anyway that can be done using voice over commands?
 Also, I'm not sure how to edit these playlists if i wish to do so
 later (like if i want to remove a song or add a new song to one of the
 playlists.) Thanks, Sonnia
 
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Re: mail question

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I usually just select that contents in the body of the email, and hit delete.   
On Aug 3, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:

 Hey, all, 
 When I want to forward something, how do I delete the email address of the 
 sender of the forward from the email? 
 Thx, 
 Chantel. 
 
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Re: mail and contacts

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Hey John, there is an add sender to address book command, which has a shortcut 
key of command-shift-y.  HTH.  
On Aug 2, 2010, at 1:37 PM, John D. Lipsey wrote:

 I'm confused!
 
 I want to add someone who sent me an email to my address book, but I've 
 brought up the context menu for the message and looked in all of the menus on 
 the menu bar, and I can't seem to find an option to do this.  So I thought, 
 maybe replying to a message will create a new contact in my address book, but 
 the only contact cards in my address book are for myself and Apple.  Which 
 brings up another question... how do I import the contacts from my IPhone 
 into my MacBook's address book?
 
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