Re: Another Tough One

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

If your on an Intel based mack holding d9own the cmd key wile booting will 
bring up the boot menu or target disk mode and then  you should be able to left 
arrow once and boot into the installer on the external disk.  If this doesn't 
work, you may have to enable external disk boot.  If on an m1 or later not sure 
how this works as I never had to do this.

Matthew



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> LlerThis should not be too hard? Let’s see. I need to reinstall Ventura. 
> I have the USB installer plugged. What is the next steps I need to take? 
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Re: Warning to anyone looking to buy a HomePod: apparently Apple thinks it's OK to sell paperweights disguised as Homepods

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,


I have had my current homepod for several years and it works well with 
really only one problem which I have yet to figure out.  When playing 
music on any of my macs, the device will just randomly drop out for some 
reason.  I have consitered getting a mini, but have not desided yet.  I 
have a electa which works with my sirius XM account as well as my 
thurmastate.  Its certainly an intresting issue with my music cutting 
out.  This does not happen with my ipad mini 5.



Matthew



On 3/31/24 12:18 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Actually, the HomePod is a good product.  The problem isn’t that the 
HomePod was defective, it’s that Apple shouldn’t ship them out without 
first upgrading them to a software version supported by HomeKit.


In terms of performance, once it’s connected to Home, it does quite 
well, I think.  We used to have Sonos speakers, and they were 
constantly dropping out and needing to be reconnected or reset.  I 
don’t have any of that with the HomePods.  Also, I think Apple does a 
much better job of managing security than Amazon Alexa does.

Cheers,
Donna


On Mar 31, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:

Hello everybody I am inclined to agree with Anders Holmberg about the 
HomePod. I don’t want to get HomePod either. It sounds like Apple has 
turned out something that has some pretty serious defects in it. I am 
getting along with a Google home speaker and an Alexa device that my 
dad invited me to take with me when I moved out of his house. I also 
have a Google home hub which seems to work pretty good. Both of these 
devices can be updated. I would hope that Apple would understand 
about their defective product and work on a remedy to fix it. I feel 
bad for those people that were unfortunate enough to get a HomePod.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 31, 2024, at 10:57 AM, Anders Holmberg 
 wrote:


Hi!
I don’t want to get a HomePod.
Not for this reason but I do not need it.
However it seems very very clunky and unacceptable to me.
I once was an apple fanboy but now a days I am not a fanboy of any 
brand.

Bless.
/A

29 mars 2024 kl. 02:43 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
:


Hi all,

I just wanted to share this with the list, as it could potentially 
impact anyone considering the purchase of a HomePod or HomePod 
mini.  Feel free to share with anyone who might benefit.


After spending an entire afternoon trying to set up our new HomePod 
mini, I found the following article.  Buyer beware!  Apparently 
Apple thinks it’s just fine to sell these things.  I plan on 
returning mine, and will only buy another if the people at the 
Apple Store can definitively prove that it is running a more recent 
software version.


Apple Details What to Do If You Can't Update HomePod When Advanced 
Data Protection Is Enabled 

macrumors.com 





The text of the article follows:

To use Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, all the devices logged 
into your Apple ID require a minimum software version. That 
includes HomePod speakers, which must be running at least HomePod 
software 16.2.


However, according to /Bloomberg/'s Mark Gurman 
, there 
is a bug in the Home app that prevents HomePods running older 
versions of the software from being updated if iCloud end-to-end 
encryption has been turned on.


This means anyone buying a HomePod that ships with an OS older than 
16.2 won't be able to set it up, because doing so first requires an 
update.


Apple's support document explains what options are available to 
customers facing this predicament. If the speaker in question is a 
HomePod mini, users can connect it to a Mac via the USB-C cable and 
update it through Finder (or iTunes on a PC) by selecting the 
HomePod in the Finder sidebar and clicking the *Restore 
HomePod* option. This will update the speaker to the latest 
software, after which it can be properly set up.


The full-size first-generation HomePod and the new 2023 HomePod 
have no USB-C port, so unless Apple includes a fix in iOS 16.3, 
which is expected to be released next week, owners of these 
speakers will have to temporarily turn off Advanced Data Protection 
to update the HomePod software. Apple outlines how to do that in 
the following way:


 1. Turn off Advanced Data Protection in iCloud settings on your
iPhone, iPad, or Mac: In *Settings* or *System Settings*, tap
your name, then tap *iCloud*. Scroll to *Advanced Data
Protection* and turn off *Advanced Data Protection*.
 2. If you received an error message when you previously tried to
set up your HomePod, you may need to reset your HomePod
. Then
set up your HomePod

Re: Air vs. Pro

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I think that for basic use such as word processing and email/web browsing then 
the air should be fine.  If you however do a lot of file editing with audio, 
then you might want the pro.  I think it all really depends on what you are 
doing.  With that said, the air machines seem to be getting more powerful thees 
days.

Matthew



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> I’ve often wondered what are the use cases for having a MacBook Air vs. a 
> MacBook Pro. Which is better for what purpose?
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Re: Safe Mode

[matthew dyer]

I think there is a demo of this on applevis.com.
 They did a demo of this a few weeks ago.  HTH.

Matthew


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Apple mail acting strange in sanioma.

[matthew dyer]

Hi all,

For the last couple of days now I have had the strange problem where message I 
have deleted still sh9ow up in my inbox with sanoma 14.3.  I can restart my 
mail account seems ti salvo thus breaflly but then the issue returns again.  I 
have also restart my mea m1 which is what I am using and like with restarting 
the mail app, this is only tempary.  I am wondering if anyone else is seeing 
this and has a solution.  I am using the unified inbox if that matters.  Thanks 
all.

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Re: VMware Fusion/Player

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I have not tried UTM, but looked at it in the App Store.  Is it accessible?  
How does this work?  Thanks.

Matthew



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> This whole situation makes me sad. Of course it's less convenient to carry 
> multiple machines around, and there's basically no real choice to dual-boot, 
> so our VM tools have to work. When they're snatched away from us by 
> indifference to critical accessibility bugs, we suffer, not only lost 
> opportunity but arguably the entire value proposition of these expensive 
> machines, which need to run multiple operating systems to compensate for the 
> inadequacy of any single operating system. Sigh.
> 
> I'm looking at the possible options, but realistically if you need to use 
> Braille in your guest it's Parallels or UTM. You have various options if you 
> only need textmode access as such, like vmctl/vmcli or qemu, but that gets us 
> back to the problem of macOS Terminal. Certainly it can't hurt you to learn 
> tdsr, however it's not a substitute to Terminal or the Linux screen readers 
> for speech and braille, but an adjunct.
> 
> I hope vmWare is fixed soon, as I still find it to be the best option for me. 
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> passthrough and Ethernet bridging from a graphical and command line utility, 
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Re: Ailing 2013 MacBook Air

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I had an iMac from 2013 that could only run Catalina.  That thing ran pretty 
slow even after a fresh install and I just assumed it was old hardware.  The 
machine finally died after 10 years after a storm fried up the system.  I gave 
it to someone who need a system since hers was out.  In any event, I am 
suprizwed that the MBA from 2013 can even run mixer.  I have an Intel Mac mini 
from 2018 which is still kicking but will have to desire what to do with it at 
some point after it no goes out of software support.  I thought of turning it 
into a linux box, but not sure yet.

Matthew



> On Dec 29, 2023, at 5:59 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> Another possibility besides more resource intenvive software, is dust or link 
> buildup in the venting areas. If you have a nearby Apple store, there is a 
> good chance, that they will take the cover off the bak and blow out 
> accumulated dirt in the system for free.
> If not, iFixIt should have the tools to open a Macbook, I believe they use a 
> five pointed bolt head to prevent random folks from opening the case.
> 
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> On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 1:23 PM 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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>> 
>> I still use my 2013 era Mac Air. I am fully updated to Big Sur, the
>> lates it seems there will ever be for those older machines.
>> 
>> I can easily get my Air into a situations where the fans are running
>> almost constantly. My solution is to minimize how many applications I
>> keep open on the Air. There's an old saying about software expanding to
>> take advantage of newer, more powerful hardware. I've always thought
>> those fans are illustrating that old principle.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Janina
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>> Phil Halton writes:
>> > I have an older MacBook Air from 2013 that is exhibiting a heck of a lot 
>> > of fan activity these days. I upgraded to a MacBook Pro with the M3 Pro 
>> > chip and I???m very happy with it but I???m trying to put some use to the 
>> > old air. Last night I reinstalled the operating system after doing some 
>> > first aid through disc utility And there???s still fan activity as far as 
>> > I can tell. I reinstalled Catalina. I did not do a full erase and clean 
>> > install, only a reinstall of the OS. I???m wondering, any ideas why all 
>> > this fan activity is it aging Hardware? Or is it some kind of  Software 
>> > problem, or even just data problems from years built up without ever 
>> > erasing and reformatting. I???ll be glad to hear any ideas as to how I can 
>> > bring this thing back to a reasonably good state of operation and if that 
>> > means full of erasure and reinstall then I???d be willing to do that. 
>> > Frankly I don???t see why this thing should be  choking on itself the way 
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Re: Installing and using Lennox excessively on an old MacBook Air

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

The only guy screenreader alibi for linux at this time is orca.  As for text 
base, speak should work.  Which bistro are you looking at?  Ubuntu or fedora 
might work.  HTH.

Matthew



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> I’ve been hearing about people using Linux on this list for quite some time 
> and I never really cared until now. I’m wondering, how are people using 
> Lennox from an accessibility standpoint, what screen reader is out there for 
> use. I did my college independent studies using Lennox And so I’m not 
> unfamiliar with it, but I never thought to use it on a Mac. I have an old 
> MacBook Air, a 2013, that’s just collecting dust and I thought I might 
> install Lennox and have a little play around with it. Can someone tell me  
> How I would go about installing it on my old MacBook Air and what screen 
> reader can I use?
> Thanks for any information. By the way, I don’t care what happens to this old 
> MacBook Air, I’ll strip it down and do whatever with it, it’s lucky I didn’t 
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Re: List of mailboxes gone.

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CMD+shift+S should work.  HTH.

Matthew



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> Hi!
> What is the shortcut to show the mailboxes list with all the folders I’ve 
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> Its not there for some reason which makes med a bit mad.
> Bless.
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Re: How to check battery level on a M2 Mac?

[matthew dyer]

Hi,  Yes it works on all machines that are on m1 such as the Mac book air m1.

Matthew



> On Oct 28, 2023, at 2:15 PM, 'Ron S' via MacVisionaries 
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> Pressing VO plus F7 once, twice, three times speaks  time and date, Battery 
> level, signal strength respectively. I am running an Intel  Macbook air 
> Ventura but I would have thought it would work on an M series. 
> Ron.
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2023, at 17:41, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi morris, the quickest way, I've always just checked battery level is by 
>> hitting the OM twice and then using my quick navigation to get to where the 
>> battery is. I don't believe that there is a keystroke for that.
>> Joseph Hudson
>> 
>> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
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>> Connect with me on zoom
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>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2023, at 12:29 AM, Maurice A. Mines  wrote:
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>>> Hi  the  subject line says  it  all. Is  there a key stroke in Vo that will 
>>>  quickly give  me  battery info?
>>> 
>>> Maurice Mines.
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Re: Siri no longer plays a sound when activated with the side button on my iPhone

[matthew dyer]

Hi Running iOS 17.0.3 on both my iPhone 15 and my Ipad and both are silent.  
While this is a change by apple this would be nice to have an option to have 
audio feedback or not.  I have no problems with this.

Matthew



> On Oct 25, 2023, at 2:17 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Ios 17.1 release candidate.
> But the tone worked before that too.
> /A
> 
>> 25 okt. 2023 kl. 14:38 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Are you running IOS 17?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2023, at 7:25 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Not sure what’s going on with your phone Donna but here on my 12 pro it 
>>> works.
>>> Bless.
>>> /A
>>> 
 25 okt. 2023 kl. 02:01 skrev agent086b :
 
 Hi,
 interesting when I am using my hearing aids I can hear this sound. However 
 if bluetooth is turned off I can’t hear it.
 Max.
 
> On 25 Oct 2023, at 10:31, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> Anyone know how to fix this?  I’ve looked everywhere in Settings, 
> Accessibility, VO, Siri, and I can’t find it.  And no, my phone is not in 
> silent mode.  iPhone 14 Pro running IOS 17.03.
> TIA,
> Donna
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RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 15 Series

[matthew dyer]

Mark,  Just wondering, but, Have you upgraded to 17.0.3?  This is supposed to 
help wityh the heating issue.  This was all over the mac roomers and apple 
sites reasontly. B 

Matthew



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Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 
15 Series

Hello All,

Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been
putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device
heats up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.

It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14
series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?

Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10
case I purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted
length of time when performing longer tasks such as performing system
restores, lengthy GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the
phone really heats up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level
but I am saying that it is heating up so much and so fast that I have
decided to not purchase a 15 Pro Max, this year.

Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the
same level of screen brightness.

Okay, just thought I would pass this along.

Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.

I hope you are all doing well.

Mark


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Re: IOS17

[matthew dyer]

Hi,  What iPhone are you using?  It’s only works with the iPhone X and up if 
memery serve.  What do you get when you try to update?  IOS 17 is supposed to 
be released next week.  I am upgrading to the rc build on my iPad mini and 
things seem to be pritty stable here.

Matthew



> On Sep 12, 2023, at 5:11 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> does anybody know when IOS17 will be formally released? I ask because I try 
> to run 1 behind the current ios. I'm running 15 right now and I should 
> probably upgrade to 16 before 17 comes out, and I can't.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: Concerned about the future Mac accessibility

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Using an m1 Mac book air and do not have any of the crashing or busy messages 
mentioned.  That’s interesting.  I also have both an Intel Mac mini and a 
windows 11 desktop.  I find that my MBA is pretty stable.  I am able to do 
email and web browsing just fine without any problem.  Perhaps this has to do 
with certain websites.

Matthew



> On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:26 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> I second this.
> 
> I use both my Mac and my PC daily.  I teach online, and mostly I prefer the 
> way JAWS and Windows handles the LMS, so I doubt I’ll ever not have a PC.  
> But I’m also amazed at how frustrating things that should be simple can be on 
> Windows.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 12:32 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
>> 
>> I hate web Browsing on the mac. Most other things I am good with. I
>> use both platforms for different reasons, even having a 2023 MBP 14
>> with max chip. I still use my windows computers as my daily drivers. I
>> like my mac for vocr and logic, and a few other things. Some things
>> can just be slower on a mac  when it comes to page navagation and a
>> couple other things, I just would rather not deal with it.
>> 
>> On 9/7/23, Mohamed Fayed  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I’ve lately switched from 2016 15” MBP to 2023 M2Max 16””. The gain in
>>> performance is tremendous and you will notice it.
>>> 
>>> For issues related to “mail is not responding”, it occurs when you make the
>>> exact keystrokes, but Voiceover continues within a significantly shorter
>>> duration.
>>> 
>>> For web browsing, Safari nowadays is pretty bad. This is not related to VO.
>>> You may try Google Chrome or MS Edge instead.
>>> 
>>> Windows on Apple Silicon is significantly faster. If there is a chance to
>>> get to Apple Silicon device, and try it yourself, that would be great.
>>> 
>>> The issue that annoys me the most is VO stops talking. It is on Mac and iOS.
>>> I hope they fix it soon.
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps,
>>> 
>>> Mohamed E. Fayed
>>> 
>>> 
 On 7 Sep 2023, at 8:01 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
 
 My biggest gripe with Mac OS and VO is web browsing. It’s awful compared
 to Windows with JAWS or NNVDA. It is the main reason I would seriously
 consider going back to Windows if/when it’s time to get a new laptop.
 I use DuckDuckGo as my browser now to get away from that annoying “Safari
 is Busy” message that cripples my productivity.
 
 So I’m on the fence about switching back to Windows, but if VO on the Mac
 does not improve over time (and I doubt that it will) I might just flip a
 coin on the decision.
 
 Dave Carlson
 Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
 dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Sep 7, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
 
 Hi all, it seems like we are having more than a few messages on this list
 about the disappointment in Mac’s VoiceOver performance.
 
 Are quite a few of you thinking of switching back to windows? Or are a lot
 of you overall still happy with the VoiceOver experience?
 
 I think I am mostly curious about this, because I have been talking about
 updating my MacBook Eyre. I guess part of me is beginning to wonder,
 should I get a Windows laptop instead? I would be very disappointed to
 spend $900 on a MacBook Air, and still have a lot of performance issues.
 
 What are your guises thoughts?
 
 Thank you,
 From Traci's MBA20.
 
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Re: More strange Mac mail behaviors.

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Check mailbox bdehavers and see if there is something in there.  So under 
prefrences, accounts.  Select the account and there is a mailbox behaviors tab 
where you can change the way mailboxes sync and other behavers.  Thanks.

Matthew



> On Jul 6, 2023, at 3:47 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> This happens regardless of whether I restart mail or not.  Also, How do I 
> check to see if I have messages marked as deleted or not?
>   I wouldn’t think anything has changed, since I honestly don’t know how 
> to/have any desire to change how messages behave for this vary reason, so I’m 
> really stumped on how this happened.
> 
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>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Whzat happens if you restart the mail app.  Also, do you have mail set to 
>> mark messages as deleted?  This is very strange.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 3:18 PM, 'Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OH wow, that’s weird, Jess.  Have never had anything like that happen in 
>>> mail where you can’t delete all messages, and having messages come back 
>>> that you delete.  That’s interesting.  
>>> Dan Eickmeier. Beamsville, Ontario Canada.  Amateur radio callsign: VA3ETS
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/va3ets Mastodon: @va3ets@mstdn.social 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 10:56 AM, Jessica Moss  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Honestly, I have no idea, I just no that at this point, something has 
>>>> somehow happened where all my deleted messages are now coming back as soon 
>>>> as I delete them, and command+shift+delete no longer erases everything 
>>>> like it used to on either of my mailboxes.  This just randomly happened 
>>>> yesterday, without me having done anything to my settings, so have no idea 
>>>> what needs to be fixed, let alone what could have caused it.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you perhaps, confusing filters and searches? If you do a search 
>>>>> within all mail that it will look at every folder, including your deleted 
>>>>> folder in some cases.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 9:03 AM, Jessica Moss  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just noticed yesterday, and have no idea what brought this on, that 
>>>>>> when I launched my Apple mail, everything in my personal mailbox looked 
>>>>>> like it it had completely been erased.  However, everything within my 
>>>>>> work e-mailbox, which is also gmail-based, was still in tact.
>>>>>> Then next thing I knew, Voiceover kept saying something about filters, 
>>>>>> upon mail being launched, which I never mess with, but figured I’d 
>>>>>> attempt to do so to see if I could recover them.  So after doing some 
>>>>>> playing around to see what would take, I somehow managed to get my mail 
>>>>>> back, but now on both sides, my erase-all command is now no longer 
>>>>>> working, and my messages are reappearing as fast as I delete them.  Does 
>>>>>> anyone know what I could’ve accidentally toggled on that I need to fix?
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Re: More strange Mac mail behaviors.

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Whzat happens if you restart the mail app.  Also, do you have mail set to mark 
messages as deleted?  This is very strange.

Matthew



> On Jul 6, 2023, at 3:18 PM, 'Dan Eickmeier' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> OH wow, that’s weird, Jess.  Have never had anything like that happen in mail 
> where you can’t delete all messages, and having messages come back that you 
> delete.  That’s interesting.  
> Dan Eickmeier. Beamsville, Ontario Canada.  Amateur radio callsign: VA3ETS
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/va3ets Mastodon: @va3ets@mstdn.social 
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 10:56 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> Honestly, I have no idea, I just no that at this point, something has 
>> somehow happened where all my deleted messages are now coming back as soon 
>> as I delete them, and command+shift+delete no longer erases everything like 
>> it used to on either of my mailboxes.  This just randomly happened 
>> yesterday, without me having done anything to my settings, so have no idea 
>> what needs to be fixed, let alone what could have caused it.
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you perhaps, confusing filters and searches? If you do a search within 
>>> all mail that it will look at every folder, including your deleted folder 
>>> in some cases.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 6, 2023, at 9:03 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
 
 I just noticed yesterday, and have no idea what brought this on, that 
 when I launched my Apple mail, everything in my personal mailbox looked 
 like it it had completely been erased.  However, everything within my work 
 e-mailbox, which is also gmail-based, was still in tact.
 Then next thing I knew, Voiceover kept saying something about filters, 
 upon mail being launched, which I never mess with, but figured I’d attempt 
 to do so to see if I could recover them.  So after doing some playing 
 around to see what would take, I somehow managed to get my mail back, but 
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Re: Notification times out before I can take an a hi, ction

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,  That should VO+CMD+space.  Sorry about that.



On 4/21/2023 3:32 PM, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I usually press VO+N which brings up the list of notifications and press enter 
on it which will then allow me to press VO+shift+space to bring up the acctions 
menu and deal with it.  HTH.

Matthew



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I also have trouble with this. sometimes we have to try 2 or 3 times before we 
can get it to work. I don’t have a solution but I do have the same problem.


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Hi,
On the several occasions I have attempted to obtain help from Apple 
Accessibility in the past several months, the screen share has failed because 
the notification times out before I can take the necessary actions.
Is there any way to solve this problem?
Thanks. Marlene.

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Re: Notification times out before I can take an a hi, ction

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,  That should VO+CMD+space.  Sorry about that.



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Hi,

I usually press VO+N which brings up the list of notifications and press enter 
on it which will then allow me to press VO+shift+space to bring up the acctions 
menu and deal with it.  HTH.

Matthew



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I also have trouble with this. sometimes we have to try 2 or 3 times before we 
can get it to work. I don’t have a solution but I do have the same problem.


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Re: New HomePods?

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Hi,

I am listening to the podcast and while doing so it set off my current HomePod 
and turned off VoiceOver.

Matthew

 

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> Thanks, Michael!
> Cheers,
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>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Michael Babcock > > wrote:
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>> I didn't hear them personally, but it's my understanding and my observations 
>> over an Internet connection that the new HomePods have a more brighter 
>> sound, and do sound a little cleaner. Everyone who I've heard that owns 
>> these devices, loves them and feel that the investment into them is well 
>> worth it. Hope this helps a little! Have a beautiful day and safe travels.
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>>> Oh great! Looking forward to listening to it. But I’m actually about to be 
>>> in transit to the local Apple store, or I should say nearest Apple store, 
>>> which is about two hours away. Any chance you could summarize your Takeaway?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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 We did a podcast recording of the new home pods, vs the previous gen and 
 HomePod MINI on the IA Cast at this link 
 . I 
 hope it helps!
 
 
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Re: iCloud Agreement

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I don’t recall what I did to get this working, but I do remember seeing this a 
couple oof weeks ago.  

Matthew



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>   Anyone getting this that requires you to agree to it? I cannot seem to get 
> it to work no matter how many times to tick the check box and hot the Agree 
> button. Thanks.
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> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: Accessible Twitter client for mac

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi, Not sure if you are aware but twitter has disabled thirdparty access 
to twitter so if things don't work, I would not be suprized.



Matthew



On 1/20/2023 1:54 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

hi,

Now that Twitterrific is no longer available, what is the best 
accessible Twitter client for a mac running Ventura?  I’m currently 
trying Twitter.app and Spring.app but both are behaving in an odd 
manner so that I never quite know how to jump to the top of the 
Tweets, the shortcut keys don’t seem to respond every time, sometimes 
when I do succeed to retweet, I’m thrown back to the top of the tweet 
list.  This is all rather disappointing.  I have tried Twitter.com 
 website but the keyboard shortcut keys they list 
there don’t seem to work.  Any suggestions?


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Re: Installer in Progress

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Hi,


I am glad someone else brought this up as I have 2 macs.  One is a mac 
mini from 2018 and is an intel machine with 16 GB of ram and a mac book 
air m1 which I just got about a month  ago and both have the instaololer 
in progress box that comes up a click of either the trackpad or 
vo+shift+sppace brings up the login screen.  I see this as an annoience, 
but perhaps an email yto accessibil...@apple.com is in order?



Matthew



On 1/16/2023 11:45 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:

For clarification: mine is an Apple Silicon Mac (M1 Pro).
Apparently, the boot process was reworked with the introduction of Apple 
Silicon.


On Jan 16, 2023, at 11:26, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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On 16/1/23 09:42, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

This happened in Monterey and started doing it in Ventura.

When I first boot up, Voiceover announces "installer in progress" then 
"authentication". I have to double click the mouse to get focus on the password. Is there 
a fix for this? Thanks.


I've never encountered this issue, so the interesting question is why you're 
experiencing it and I'm not.

I've had File Vault enabled for a while, but all was fine even before that. 
When my machine is booted, focus goes straight to the password prompt.

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Re: Erasing drive formatted for Windows

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Hi,


If you just want to use it for storing stuff you copy over, then xfat 
should work just fine.  If you want to use it as a backup then apfs is 
what you want.



HTH.


Matthew



On 12/23/2022 4:04 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi again.  What format do I need for erasing a hard disc to use on the Mac?  It 
is currently formatted for Windows, which means I can’t write to it.  I plan to 
use it to store things like books, movies, music and the like.  APFS case 
sensitive, encrypted, etc?  I was about to erase it when I realized I was not 
quite sure what format to choose.  I do not need to keep the two or three PDF 
files that came with it, and that is all that is on the disc.

Thanks for any help.




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Re: Unresponsive Finder, M1 Mac mini, Ventura 13.1

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,


I have a mac book air m1 with no problems  with finder infact, I find it 
to be faster than my intel mac mini from 2018.



Matthew



On 12/23/2022 3:13 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Thanks, John.  Sometimes and works better than it does at other times. 
 But I finally got it to work at an acceptable level.



On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:44 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

   I am experiencing this at times as well. I am not sure why but if 
I command-tab away and restart VoiceOver and go back to Finder, it 
seems to fix the problem.



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On Dec 23, 2022, at 1:28 PM, 'Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries 
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This problem with the unresponsive finder has been getting worse for 
a while now, but it is making it more difficult for me to use the 
machine now.  I had to wait several minutes this time after I 
rebooted the Mac.  Then it just was very slow instead of completely 
unresponsive.  I know that something is wrong but I can’t figure out 
what it is.


Do I need to just bite the bullet and call AppleCare?  Thanks for 
any pointers.



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Re: Voiceover at Login

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Look under accessibility.  I think it is login options.  HTH.

Matthew



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>   Before Ventura, this option was found in User and Groups, and Login Options 
> under my name. Where is this now located? Thanks.
> 
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Re: Mac Mail

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Move to the splitter just to the rite of the message list and interact with it. 
 Now vo rite till you hear 100% and stop interacting.  Ow if you vo to the rite 
you should hear the preview pain is gone.  HTH.

Matthew



> On Dec 9, 2022, at 3:54 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
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> Hi,
> thanks for the reply. How do I close the preview pain? I tried cmd W but that 
> didn’t work.
> Thanks again.
> Max. 
> 
>> On 9 Dec 2022, at 11:35 pm, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> If you close the mail, preview pane, then the VO J will jump between the 
>> toolbar the mailbox list and the list of messages.
>> 
>> You know, of course, there is the command one through 9 to jump to favorite 
>> mailboxes. Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2022, at 12:29 AM, Agent086b  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I know my question has been asked in the past but I did not need it then.
>>> I have got my new iMac today so am learning the differences between one 
>>> built in 2011 and 2021.
>>> In Mail  there appears to be another tab or window when in message view. I 
>>> can be on the message being sender subject etc. In the past I use VO + J to 
>>> jump back to the mailbox list but I now jump into what appears to me to be 
>>> the open message. The jump does not go back to the mailbox list. I hav mail 
>>> set to show no lines under settings.
>>> How can I return mail to what it is was or can’t I?
>>> Thanks for any help,.
>>> Max.
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Re: VMware Fusion and Login Items

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,



I used vmware fusion in the beta and had the same thing it is quite 
annoying.



Matthew



On 11/2/2022 2:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
   This question is for anyone who is running VMware Fusion under 
Ventura. That app is not in the login items list relating to 
background checks. When I launch the app, I always get a notification 
that suggests I can enable this which I do not want.


   The app appears in the list and I toggle it to 'no'. Makes no 
difference. I haven't found any setting that might resolve this. Any 
ideas? Thanks much.


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Re: Ventura and Voiceover

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I have seen the message about the bacround apps in the betas.  I find it to be 
very aannoyikng at best.

Matthew



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>   After tweaking this and that, Voiceover seems to be decent. Even though I 
> have set one voice (Samantha) to handle all speaking tasks, I am still 
> hearing Alex speak on certain elements. I checked that all elements are 
> spoken by the default voice. Thia is in System settings, Accessibility, 
> Spoken Content.
> 
>   Also when I launch a third party app, I get a notification that I can 
> enable its background access in Login Items. It is on so why I still get the 
> notification?
> 
>   Thanks!
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Re: Command in Monterrey to Eject an external disk?

[Matthew Dyer]

CMD plus E should do it.  Has this changed somewh?


Matthew



On 10/14/2022 7:41 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi Janet

It is a backup drive, and that is what I have been doing.  I was just hoping 
there was a single key-press option for performing this function, as there was 
prior to Monterrey.

Thanks to all who responded.
Cheers,
Donna


On Oct 13, 2022, at 8:42 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:

Hi Donna,
Is the item you want to eject a backup drive? If so, go to Finder and VO-Left 
and Right Arrow until you hear the name of your drive. Then do Shift-VO-M and 
arrow down to eject. It may take a minute or two before the drive is ready to 
be ejected.

Hope this helps.

Janet



On Oct 13, 2022, at 9:36 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi all,

I notice that in Monterrey CMD-E no longer works to eject an external disk 
drive.  Anyone know if there’s a new command?  I tried CMD-Option-E but that 
didn’t do it.
TIA,
Donna

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RE: Mac mini with M1 chip and questions

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I have the intel mac mini from 2018 and it runs fine without a screen 
connected.  Bootcamp also runso fine on it although I know longer have bootcamp 
setup, but either way it should work.

Matthew



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Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 11:49 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac mini with M1 chip and questions

As I said, a Mac with Apple Silicon will not run Boot Camp. That means any Mac 
with Apple Silicon will not run Boot Camp.

I do not use a Mac without a monitor, nor do I use a Mac with Boot Camp, 
running windows, therefore, I cannot answer your question.

- Brad -

On Sep 22, 2022, at 08:26, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Thank you, Brad for this.  I’d consider an intel based mac mini. I have no 
sight so a monitor is of little use to me but will mac mini run properly 
without it and more importantly will Windows be happy running in bootcamp 
without a monitor?  Won’t there be issues of either the mac os or Windows 
demanding a monitor be present?

Regarding the silicon imac 24 inch, I assume it won’t run windows in bootcamp 
either?

Andrew 

> On 22 Sep 2022, at 13:30, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
> 
> A Mac with Apple silicon will not run Bootcamp.  There are some other 
> options, but there may be some accessibility issues with some of these 
> options.
> Apple does still sell a Mac mini with an Intel processor, and this Mac will 
> run bootcamp.
> A Mac mini does not require a monitor to function, however if you want a 
> monitor, pretty much any monitor will work, but be advised that the mini has 
> both a HDMI port, and Thunderbolt ports, so you will need an adapter for some 
> monitors.
> Another option to consider is the 24” iMac with apple silicon.  My wife, who 
> is sighted, has one of these, and it is a very nice option worth considering 
> if you want a Mac with a very good monitor.
> 
> If you are considering a new Mac with Apple silicon, I would wait until after 
> the yet to be announced October Apple event, where new Macs are expected to 
> be announced.
> If you are interested in the mini with the Intel processor, you might want to 
> act soon, because it is unknown how long Apple will continue selling this 
> option, and it could easily disappear once the October event is held, though 
> I would assume some of these models could still be purchase from the Apple 
> Refurbished store. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 22, 2022, at 04:47, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Yesterday my 2012 imac died.  I’m trying to decide what to buy.  I’m thinking 
> of getting a mac mini with M1 chip.
> 
> My questions are:
> 1. Could I run windows in bootcamp on it?
> 2. What sort of monitor I need to get? I don’t thinkk it comes with a monitor.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew 
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Re: IOS 16 for iPad Air?

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,


To be c9orrect, ipad os has skipped 16.0 and is going to 16.1 which is 
still in beta.  I think it is comming in October.



Matthew



On 9/16/2022 10:20 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

   Its iPadOS 16 and its still in bata. Possibly be released before 
end of month.


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On 9/16/2022 6:56 AM, Patrick Ford wrote:
Hi, I have the update on my phone but when will IOS 16 be available 
for my iPad Air? Thanks.

Patrick

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Re: Mac vs. iPad

[matthew dyer]

Matthew



On 8/24/2022 1:12 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>
> On 24/8/22 09:51, Herbie Allen wrote:
>> This is good to know. I have contemplated the iPad over the years, 
>> especially when they introduce interesting t    hings like the four 
>> speaker setup, and m1. However, I’ve resisted at the same time 
>> because it’s always struck me as an  overgrown iPhone. I’m glad I 
>> went the Mac route instead.
>
> It depends on what your needs are, of course, but I don't think an 
> iPad can be substituted for a Mac by people who are doing more than 
> consumer tasks, light e-mail and some Web browsing.
>
>
I have a mac mini and an ipad mini 5th and  Tend to use my ipad for 
things like music and acagenal email use, but use my mac for more hevy 
work like web browsing and other things.  Hth.




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RE: Some Mac questions

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

If you are using the mail app, you can use Cmd d.  I don’t use word for mac so 
can’t help with that one.

Matthew



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Subject: Some Mac questions

Hi all
I have some Mac questions again.
What is the command to send a email ?
I installed Microsoft word on my Mac , what are the different commands in 
editing a document?
Becky
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RE: M1 Mac mini just beeps

[matthew dyer]

Hi,  Perhaps this is different, but I have never had to connect a mouse to go 
through the first setup.  I have always just pressed enter on the keyboard to 
get get things going.  Maybe this is different on the m1 machines.  I can not 
test as I have no m1 here to test with.

Matthew



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Violet Gill
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 8:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: M1 Mac mini just beeps

Yes I can do that I’m meeting someone this weekend so I  will ask them.

 Violet.
She/her.


On Jul 15, 2022, at 20:01, 'ja...@jasonjgw.net' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Can you attach a mouse and a display temporarily, just to set it up?
If you don’t have any, perhaps you know someone who could allow you to use 
theirs just for an hour or so.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on 
behalf of Violet Gill 
mailto:logicalviol...@gmail.com>>
Date: Friday, 15July, 2022 at 19:13
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: M1 Mac mini just beeps
No I don’t have any mouse attached currently.
 Violet.
She/her.



On Jul 15, 2022, at 18:42, Jonathan Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Do you have a mouse attached? I believe you need one for first boot, you might 
also need a display.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn





On Jul 15, 2022, at 00:02, Violet Gill 
mailto:logicalviol...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I’m using the apple magic keyboard with Touch ID.
 Violet.
She/her.



On Jul 15, 2022, at 00:00, Dave Carlson 
mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Don’t think you hold the control key while pressing the power button three 
time. Try without the control key. Also, are you using the built-in keyboard, 
or a Bluetooth or USB  connected keyboard? If so, you may need to press a 
different key to emulate control.

Dave Carlson
Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, Musician, and Oregonian



On Jul 14, 2022, at 8:46 PM, Violet Gill 
mailto:logicalviol...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have tried holding the command key and pressing the Touch ID button 3 times 
but with no result. This is very frustrating as I was hoping to use my new Mac 
mini today.


Violet.
She/her.



On Jul 14, 2022, at 23:37, Janet Ingber 
mailto:janet.ing...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Have you tried holding down the Command key and pressing the Touch ID sensor   
 three times?  Here is the number for Apple’s help  for people who have 
disabilities. This is a free service. 877 204-3930.

Hope this helps.

Janet



On Jul 14, 2022, at 10:41 PM, Violet Gill 
mailto:logicalviol...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes I hope this can get resolved soon I can use sited assistance but I’m 
stubborn lol hopefuly someone in this group has some answers maybe its a quick 
thing that can be solved independently.


Violet.
She/her.



On Jul 14, 2022, at 22:18, Paul Mimms 
mailto:paul8...@gmail.com>> wrote:

it will probably be most effective to use something like AIRA or be my eyes, 
if not a sighted person, to tell you what’s going on by viewing the screen. 
Wish I could come up with an answer but I hope you can find one yourself soon.

paul8...@gmail.com




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and what you make of it.
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro



On Jul 14, 2022, at 7:16 PM, Violet Gill 
mailto:logicalviol...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello, when I turn my mac on I do not get any message to activate voiceover 
and I have tried pressing command f5 but all i get is a beep same goes for 
pressing any other key on the keyboard.  Yes this is my first mac.

Violet.
She/her.



On Jul 14, 2022, at 20:05, Janet Ingber 
mailto:janet.ing...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Violet,

Is this your first Mac? When you turn your Mac on, Do you get a message to 
activate VoiceOver.? If not, type Command-F5. Let me know what happens.

Best,
Janet





On Jul 14, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Violet Gill 
mailto:logicalviol...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello. I’m relatively new here. I just acquired a new M1 Mac mini. I’m trying 
to set it up with voiceover enabled but when I turn it on and press buttons on 
the keyboard all I get is beep beep no matter what key I press.
I hope this can be solved. Thank you so much.


Violet.
She/her.

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Re: Outlook Server Name

[Matthew Dyer]

Matthew



Yes.  It is what is configure when seting up an outlook account.




On 7/10/2022 2:30 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:

   Is this currently a valid server name for Outlook? Thanks.

outlook.office365.com

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Re: Anyone have any experience with the Airpods Max?

[Matthew Dyer]

Matthew



I have a pair ofthe airpods max and really love them and sound really 
great.  I use them on my apple tv sometimes and love the sound you get.




Hi,




On 4/29/2022 11:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Oh, how odd.  Thanks for the heads up.
Cheers,
Donna



On Apr 29, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

The AirPod Max only works with the Lightning to 3.5 mm cable sold by Apple. It 
is my understanding that third-party cables will not work with the AirPod max.

- Brad -

On Apr 29, 2022, at 10:17, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

This is really good to hear.  And thanks for the recommendation of the cable.  
I actually think I have one, but I’ll double-check to be sure.
Cheers,
Donna



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The sound quality is phenomenal. The AirPod max headphones are  worth every 
penny of what they cost. ANC and transparency mode are in a class of their own. 
The unit is a bit heavy and they are somewhat bulky for travel, but that's a 
small consideration considering the quality experience they provide.
If you get them, you will not be sorry you made the purchase.
I do recommend you spend the extra $40 to purchase the lightning to 3.5mm 
cable. This will allow The AirPod max to be used with a victor reader stream or 
other device that does not have Bluetooth and is outside the Apple verse.

- Brad -

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Good morning, all,

I’ve had the AirPods Pro for years, and in terms of performance and sound am 
quite happy with them.  But the left one has never really fit snugly in my ear, 
and because of my involvement with the clinical trial I mentioned a few weeks 
back, I’m going to be doing a lot of plane travel over the next several years.  
I don’t use my Airpods on the plane, because I’m afraid one of them will fall 
out and I’ll never find it again.  So, I’m thinking about investing in a good 
set of over-the-ear headphones, and since I’ve been happy with my Airpods Pro, 
the Max are currently at the top of my list..

Anyone on the list using them? If yes, are you happy with them?  Pros? Cons?
TIA,
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Re: trouble upgrading MacBook Pro 2019 to Monterey

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I w9ould do a clean install consideringg that you are jumping several versions 
behind.   This should give you a clean install truly.

Matthew



> On Dec 27, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Raul Gallegos  wrote:
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> Hello everyone, I have recently purchased a MacBook Pro 2019 from someone who 
> has upgraded to something else. This Mac was reset to all factory defaults 
> and there are no problems there. It is currently using Mohave and is running 
> fine. I am trying to upgrade it to the Monterey OS but running into a snag. 
> After the download is done and I choose to upgrade, the standard Agree of 
> license terms comes up. I do that, and then it gets stuck on checking with 
> (null), no percentage. No other windows seem to be open. I have tried 
> shutting it down and starting over, I have removed the install icon from the 
> Applications finder folder and re-downloaded the 12 GB size file, and I have 
> connected and reconnected it to the WiFi. Still, no go. Do others have ideas 
> of what else I may be able to try? I have not done any other kind of 
> configuration or customization other than the standard Apple ID and one Gmail 
> account on it, so if I need to erase it completely and start all over, no 
> data will get lost.
> 
> 
> Thanks all for any suggestions you may offer.
> 
> 
> /Raul
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Re: Any tweescake users on this list.

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Hi,

I looked there several times and did not see the option to allow it.  I am 
guessing that it may just not be commpatible with montorety.  There must be 
something I am missing something somewhere.

Matthew



> On Dec 12, 2021, at 6:16 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> I would try the privacy and security settings in System Preferences and see 
> if you can allow it  through that way.
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2021, at 16:27, matthew dyer  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am trying to get tweescake to open, but Mac OS does not see this as a 
>> known developer.  Usually bringing up the menu and selecting open works, but 
>> in this case this does not work.  Is there a work around for this.  I did 
>> not see the open anyway option.  Are there any users here who have gotten 
>> this to wo work?  Thanks.
>> 
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Any tweescake users on this list.

[matthew dyer]

Hi all,

I am trying to get tweescake to open, but Mac OS does not see this as a known 
developer.  Usually bringing up the menu and selecting open works, but in this 
case this does not work.  Is there a work around for this.  I did not see the 
open anyway option.  Are there any users here who have gotten this to wo work?  
Thanks.

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Re: My HomePod will not play music

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Hi,

I have the same problemm with airplay.  I am wondering if there is a contact to 
report this.  I have been dealing with this f9or some time.  It is very 
ann0oying and have given up on air play for now.

Matthew



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> Hi, Mary,
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> I’m having a similar issue, though it sounds like it’s not as severe as the 
> one you’re having. Whenever I play a playlist, the Homepod just skips a bunch 
> of songs.  This morning, this happened, and when I tried to go back to an 
> earlier title using the Previous Track button, I could only go back so far, 
> and then it treated that track as though it were the first song in the 
> playlist, even though it was probably the sixth or seventh track. For me this 
> started happening some time on Friday.  I’m thinking something must be 
> screwed up on Apple’s end, though I can’t imagine what would cause this.  And 
> I agree, it’s bloody annoying.
> 
> Hoping someone on this list has a solution, but I suspect there won’t be one 
> until Apple fixes whatever’s causing the problem.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 6:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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>> I have googled this, and follow the suggestions to restart my HomePod and 
>> to sign in and out, or I should say out and in my iCloud on my HomePod using 
>> the Home app. Originally, it was still playing stuff from my library, but I 
>> couldn’t get it to play anything from Apple Music that wasn’t already in my 
>> library. Now, it will play nothing. Not my library, not Apple Music. I can 
>> hand off to it from my phone, but that’s a waste of time. These things used 
>> to work fine. Now I might as will not even have them. Does anybody have any 
>> suggestions?
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Re: A problem with Monterey

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Hi,

Not seeing this here.  First off, what kind of Mac are you using?  MBP? Air, or 
something else.  Also, are you using an intelligent or M1?  I find that if 
doing a clean install of any major os clears up; any problems that might come 
up.

Matthew



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> I upgraded last night and all seems to be well with the exception of Music. 
> When I try to go into a playlist from the sidebar, Music stops responding. 
> Anyone see this and know what may be happening?
> 
> Kristeen
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Re: Major problem with Monterey installer if you use vo.

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I find this an accessibility regression.  I went ahead and bought a mouse from 
apple and connected it to my Mac mini and then did the install.  It was a pain. 
 I feel that having a mouse just to get things going is a regression in my book.

Matthew



> On Oct 31, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> By the way, this is not just an issue with macOS Monterey.
> The 24 inch M1 iMac I was setting up was running macOS Big Sur.
> Not sure when Apple began requiring that a mouse be connected when setting up 
> or upgrading a Mac, but it was definitely before macOS Monterey.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Oct 31, 2021, at 11:05, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> What kind of mouse are we talking about here? Well any off the rack an 
> expensive USB mouse do the trick or does it need to be some kind of Apple 
> Bluetooth mouse? I haven’t used one in so long I don’t know what’s out there 
> anymore or what would be required here.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2021, at 7:30 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>> I had the same issue with the Big Sur install as well. As you said, there 
>> is no way around it, I have to keep a mouse around for that purpose. Once 
>> you get to the install screen you can disconnect it but yes, you will need 
>> to connect a mouse or track pad to continue.
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2021, at 9:38 PM, matthew dyer  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Evening Mac users.  I have a Mac mini 2018 and just created a USB installer 
>>> and was able to boot from it.  However, I have found a major bug that I 
>>> would consider  a show stopper if uou want to do a clean install.  If you 
>>> do not have a mouse or trackpad, There is a window that comes up which has 
>>> a mouse image and a trackpad image that seems to be rotating..  No amount 
>>> of vo shift space or any other keystroke will make it go away.  Has anyone 
>>> else ran into thisI  intend to report this to apple accessibility, but 
>>> wanted to see if anyone else had this problem and found a work around.  I 
>>> think I have an old track pad around somewhere, but it needs batteries as 
>>> this is an older one from an older iMac which I no longer have.  
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
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Re: Monterey Loses Voiceover?

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I have been using Monterey for a day and have not seen any major issues so far. 
 I am using a 2018 Mac mini and a clean install if that matters.  HTH.

Matthew



> On Oct 31, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
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> Hi,
> Well, what I have noticed is that when I lift the lid of my MacBook Air, I no 
> longer hear anything from VoiceOver about entering my password. I just touch 
> the power button as I have Touch I.D enabled, and then VoiceOver comes on. I 
> spoke with Apple Accessibility on Friday, and many VoiceOver issues have been 
> reported. I also have had some difficulty with my Logitech k860 keyboard. It 
> does not always respond appropriately to commands I type. Turning off the 
> keyboard and then turning it back on usually resolves any issues I have. I 
> called Logitech and after the rep checked, he informed me that the Logitech 
> keyboards are not totally compatible with Monterey. An update is supposed to 
> be released by Logitech between November 10-15.
> Best,
> 
> Les
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2021, at 10:00 AM, Jeff Berwick > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> 
>> Since Big Sur, on an Apple M1 chip computer, I have had Voiceover crash all 
>> the time.  I have gone into Voiceover preferences and reset all Voiceover 
>> preferences and it has solved that issue.
>> 
>> A new issue, in Monterey is that, when your computer goes to sleep and 
>> requires a password, Voiceover doesn’t always come on and it doesn’t always 
>> play the clicks to indicate that you are typing in your password.
>> 
>> Try entering your password and hitting enter and see what results you get.
>> 
>> Hth,
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2021, at 9:53 AM, fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Group.
>>> I am having a lot of problems with Voiceover ever since I have upgraded to 
>>> Monterey.
>>> One of them is that Monterey does not keep voiceover active for long. After 
>>> few hours of inactivity, Voiceover does not come back and I have to 
>>> restart. Sometimes voiceover does not start with computer and I have to 
>>> start it manually.
>>> I heard that when VO does not come up after remaining inactive for 
>>> sometimes, there is a windows popping up with some sort of image that needs 
>>> to be clicked on. Since VO does not identify this Windows, I can not do 
>>> anything.
>>> Is it me alone having those issues?
>>> Thanks!
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Major problem with Monterey installer if you use vo.

[matthew dyer]

Evening Mac users.  I have a Mac mini 2018 and just created a USB installer and 
was able to boot from it.  However, I have found a major bug that I would 
consider  a show stopper if uou want to do a clean install.  If you do not have 
a mouse or trackpad, There is a window that comes up which has a mouse image 
and a trackpad image that seems to be rotating..  No amount of vo shift space 
or any other keystroke will make it go away.  Has anyone else ran into thisI  
intend to report this to apple accessibility, but wanted to see if anyone else 
had this problem and found a work around.  I think I have an old track pad 
around somewhere, but it needs batteries as this is an older one from an older 
iMac which I no longer have.  

Thanks.

Matthew


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Re: Keyboard trap in Monterey and possibly Big Sur

[matthew dyer]

Dug,

Have you tried VO Shift space?  This usually works for me.  I am running Bixer  
at the moment as I have not upgraded.  Also, did you do a straits upgrade or a  
clean install?  Thanks.

Matthew



> On Oct 27, 2021, at 6:04 PM, Doug Lee  wrote:
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> Wondering if anyone else has seen this, and if anyone knows a way out.
> 
> I upgraded to Monterey from Big Sur today. After the final system restart, I 
> landed in the following, seemingly impossible situation:
> 
> Focus is in an Installer Progress thing for which VoiceOver says, "Installer 
> Progress has no windows."
> 
> VO-N says there are no notifications available, which surprises me because of 
> the next item and because I am getting the regular little pings that 
> typically mean I have a pending notification.
> 
> Typing VO-F1 twice brings up a two-item list. From this, I can see that I 
> have a System Dialogs item where VoiceOver is asking permission to use
> BlueTooth, and a Setup Assistant item called Analitics. However, activating 
> either of these does not move focus or allow the VO cursor to navigate. VO 
> cursoring continues to say "Installer Progress has
> no windows."
> 
> Command-Tab dings and does nothing, VO-F2 twice says there are no windows, 
> and trying to move focus to VO or VO to mouse both fail with messages.
> 
> Cursor tracking is enabled; I toggled that just to make sure.
> 
> This funny inability to get into popups started in Big Sur for me, which is 
> why my subject line says "and possibly Big Sur."
> 
> Ideas welcome.
> 
> -- 
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> path? Turn aside. That is enough. Do not go on to say, `Why were
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Cloneing the recovery HD is this still supported?

[matthew dyer]

Evening all,

I am wondering if it is still possible to clone the recovery HD to a usb thumb 
drive.  I have downloaded the recovery disk assistant but it doesn’t seem to be 
working. I reoalize I could make a installer, but was wondering if anyone has 
tried to clone the recovery disk with the recovery disk assistant inn a while.  
Thanks.

Matthew


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Re: How to respond to notifications

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,

You need to press vo+CMD+space to bring up the menu and select the opsion 
you want.  This assooms you are running bixer of corse.


Matthew



On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, christopher moore wrote:


I’m receiving notifications on the mac but can’t figure out how to respond to 
them.
VO says: actions available.  How do I respond to those actions with VO?

TIA
Chris

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Re: Interested in purchasing a Macbook Air

[matthew dyer]

Tery,

Youmight be able to get something from apple that is closer to want.  Apple 
sometimes has refurbished devices on the apple store with better ram and 
storage as well as a more mother and could still get at least a couple of 
updates at least.  HTH.

Matthew




> On Aug 20, 2021, at 8:36 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
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> Hello to all who responded to this.
> 
> 
> 
> First of all, thank you so very much. This is why I am very grateful for 
> lists like this. It is helpful for someone like myself who is interested. But 
> also who doesn't know enough, to know what really to look for.
> 
> 
> 
> I really appreciate this. I wasn't planning to make this purchase, until I 
> had some other thoughts and opinions. I have learned that when making such a 
> purchase like this, all the information I can have, helps me to make the best 
> decision.
> 
> 
> 
> I will not be buying this Mac Air. I think now it makes sense as to why it is 
> such a deal. Well, according to the App my boyfriend got this from, anyway.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm not sure if this was the one from Walmart, or not. I didn't even know, in 
> all honesty, that Walmart was selling Mac products. But I wouldn't purchase 
> such things from Walmart.
> 
> My boyfriend has a few different Apps that he checks out regularly, and they 
> share all kinds of different deals with him. He knew I was interested in 
> something like this. So he past it on to me. Like myself, he doesn't know 
> enough about them, to really know what to look for.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you again. I really do appreciate it.
> 
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
> On 8/20/2021 5:25 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>> I wouldn’t get a MacBook Air with less than 8 GB RAM, and at least 256 SSD 
>> HD.
>> I’d pass on this one.
>> 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 20, 2021, at 17:00, Terri Stimmel > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry, I didn't mean to leave that information out. It states that it is the 
>> latest model. Just that it is refurbished. The model number is, MC969LL/A.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I hope this helps?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Terri
>> 
>> On 8/20/2021 4:53 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
>>> Hi we need to know how old is
>>>  
>>> It?
>>> Sent from Mail  for Windows 
>>> 10
>>>  
>>> From: Terri Stimmel 
>>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 4:42 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Interested in purchasing a Macbook Air
>>>  
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>  
>>>  
>>> My boyfriend found a deal for a refurbished Macbook Air. I am very 
>>> interested in purchasing this.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> However, I would like to get some opinions on it, if at all possible. I 
>>> don't know much about using a Mac. I have always wanted to use one. I 
>>> know in some ways they can have limits though.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I would mainly like to be able to do a lot of different audio recording. 
>>> I currently use an HP laptop for the majority of things. And probably 
>>> still will.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Anyway, this Macbook Air has 4 Gigs of RAM, Intel Core I 5, 1.6 GHZ, 128 
>>> GB SSD. It doesn't state what version of the operating system it comes with.
>>>  
>>> Does this possibly mean it doesn't include one?
>>>  
>>> Also, how likely is it that this could be updated, if at some point I 
>>> wanted to do this?
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Any thoughts are much appreciated.
>>>  
>>>  
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>>>  
>>>  
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Any one have problems updating payment info on Apple ID?

[matthew dyer]

Hi all,

I have a problem trying to update my payment info on my Apple ID.  The card 
info is from an old card and I just got my new  card this week.  Any way I 
clicked on Apple ID and selected payment info and selected edit.  I see my bank 
card info, but after seleting edit, I do not see a way to change the info.  I 
can remove it but not change it.  What am I doing wrong?  Note the only 2 
things that need changed is the exp date and the the 3 digit code.  This card 
is connected to Apple Pay.  Thanks.  I have tried this on both my Mac as well 
as my old iPhone 8 Plus with iOS 14.6.  Thanks.

Matthew


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Re: A basic Mail question

[Matthew Dyer]

Matthew



Cmd-up arrow to go to the top and cmd-down arrow to go to the bottom.  HTH.



Hi,




On 5/26/2021 1:56 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

I've started using Mac Mail more frequently, but I'm not finding the
keyboard shortcut to jump to the top (or bottom) of a list. For example
when in a mailbox on the list of all the messages in that mailbox, how
do I jump to the top of the list? And how to the bottom of the list?

It's a simple basic question, but I've failed to find the answer. Must
be looking in all the wrong places! 

Thanks in advance,

Janina




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Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

[Matthew Dyer]

Matthew



Hi I have been a mac user for years.  I have an el-braille which of 
corse uses windows 10, but I find Mac os to be a much more stable system 
and you don't have to pay for SMA'S to keep your screen reader update.  
Also, if you need to do a fresh instally don't need a seporate sound 
card to get sound with narorator.  The *stall can do be done without 
sited help to do this.





On 5/10/2021 12:17 PM, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I purchased my M1 MacBook Pro after using Windows since 1995 for the express 
purpose of leaving Windows and third party screen readers behind. I love Jaws 
and retired from teaching assistive technology in 2018 in order to go back to 
my chosen profession.  I still have a seven year old Windows 10 Lenovo that 
updates. And occasionally I still have to go to it mostly I think because I 
still have not learned to do a certain task on the Mac. But I learn more every 
day.
I do not use Alex and in fact cringe at his voice.  I use Allison on my Mac, 
iPad and iPhone.
I love having all four of my devices including my watch on the same 
environment. If the HomePod was as good as my Alexa was I would have them in 
every room as well. But they communicate with my Toshiba Fire TV very well so 
four now I’ll keep them.
But I hope to never have to purchase another Windows machine or another 
subscription to Office. I am doing fine with the Mac, voiceover, and their 
native apps such as pages and mail.
Merv



On May 10, 2021, at 11:46 AM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, I like the Alex voice better than JAWS, but my inability to find an 
inexpensive OCR app is one reason why I will continue to use Mac and Windows.


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Herbie Allen
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:44 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

I originally thought I would be using my 2019 Mac as a Winode’s machine 
primarily,  but some things have always appealed to me with the Mac that make 
me use it a lot more. First, I can use the Siri Voice for VO on the Mac and 
phone. I cannot with jaws. Second, iMessaging on the Mac is convenient and I 
can paste stuff from it into other documents which has come in handy. The Mac 
has improved sound quality even compared to Window’s on Bootcamp. Mac Mail is 
the best, and I love being able to take Phone  and FaceTime calls n my Mac 
allowing me to multi-task.


On May 10, 2021, at 08:44, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:

I am not a Windows switcher so to speak.
I will continue to use both operating systems, but I was interested in the 
ability to use IOS apps on the Mac.
Sadly, there are not as many as I'd like, but I can at least play swift 
playgrounds and enjoy a consistent interface, a responsive system, and great 
VoiceOver support for native apps.
Catalyst apps leave a lot to be desired.
Curiosity got me into the Mac world.

-Original Message-
From: 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 

Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 9:42 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Mac's Appeal to New Switchers?

I notice a steady stream of new VO-using Mac switchers, and I was just 
wondering what brought them all to the fold in recent times. Is it all about 
Apple Silicon, or are there other developments out there in the Windows world 
that are driving this? Something else, perhaps?

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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Re: Would love to hear from anyone who owns an M1 MBA

[matthew dyer]

Donna,

Good morning.  While this does not have to do with the M1 directly, I would 
sirtently speak to them at the apple store assuming that is where you got it.  
Explane them the problem you had and maybe they would be able to take a closer 
look at it.  I would also  see if they would be able to try getting your 
settings over to a replacement and let you see if it works before you leave the 
store and if not then at least you would be able to roll out rather or not it 
is a setting somewhare in your backup.  My advice would be to setup the machine 
as a new system and then if things are working, you can copy over things from 
your backup drive manually.  Thanks Do let us know how it goes.  

BTW, I would suspect that the number of conpatible apps will grow over time as 
the M1 matures.

Matthew



> On May 6, 2021, at 11:40 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Okay,
> He goes over the basics of installing which you already know, but his 
> insights as a user are invaluable.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 7:12 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Would love to hear from anyone who owns an M1 MBA
> 
> Thanks. I'll check those out.  His podcasts are very good.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 6, 2021, at 6:06 PM,   
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> I'm estimating.
>> I just know that not many apps on my phone were compatible with the Macbook 
>> Air.
>> I advise you to listen to David Woodbridge's podcasts on the Macbook Air.
>> He also mentions his disappointment on the lack of IOS compatible with 
>> catalyst.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
>> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 7:04 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Would love to hear from anyone who owns an M1 MBA
>> 
>> Wow, those aren't good numbers.  But I'm hoping you are right that more will 
>> become available for Mac.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2021, at 6:01 PM,   
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, not many.
>>> I've probably got close to 100 apps and maybe five or six will load.
>>> However, I think that is an issue with the developers not supporting the 
>>> Mac.
>>> I want to learn how to code, and I heard you can do this using playgrounds 
>>> and XCode.
>>> I don't like the iPad split screen so got the Mac last Christmas.
>>> Overtime, I think more apps may become available.
>>> I found that even when putting apps on the Mac, not all were accessible 
>>> because they were not optimized for the Mac.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 6:57 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Would love to hear from anyone who owns an M1 MBA
>>> 
>>> You used to be able to load any IOS app onto the new Macs, but Apple put a 
>>> stop to that. Just out of curiosity--and I know my mileage may vary--what 
>>> percentage of your iPhone apps would you say you can run? That's also one 
>>> of the things that appeals to me about having an M1 Mac.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 6, 2021, at 5:51 PM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The only problem I had was getting it to recognize an external Bluetooth 
 keyboard, but it gave me instructions on which keys to press so it could 
 create a mapping of some sort.
 I'm new to the Mac.
 Sometimes, I do not get any speech for a few seconds on bootup.
 The most disappointing thing is that I can't run all of my IOS apps on the 
 Mac.
 I thought you could run an emulator of some sort.
 All of these issues likely have nothing to do with the MBA.
 Thanks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
 Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 6:29 PM
 To: via MacVisionaries 
 Subject: Would love to hear from anyone who owns an M1 MBA
 
 Hi all,
 
 As I mentioned, I'll now be returning my MBA.  I have to decide whether to 
 return it, or exchange it.  After my experience this week, I am very 
 concerned that this computer just may not be ready for prime-time.  I 
 don't mean to go negative, but I would appreciate it if anyone who owns 
 one of these machines could share about any problems that you have 
 encountered.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air

[matthew dyer]

Hi Donna,

I am so sorry that you have been having so many problems with getting this 
machine running and and that you have to send it back for return.  I am very 
convinced that whatever was trancefered over from your Time Machine backup is 
the proble.  I hope that you are able to get some sort of conciliation out of 
this.  Maybe explaining the situation to them that they will be able to help.  
I wish you luck with everything.
Matthew



> On May 5, 2021, at 9:25 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks everyone for your helpful suggestions. But I think there’s a point 
> that has been lost, perhaps in all the messages involved in this thread. 
> There’s something really messed up on this computer. When I open 
> accessibility preferences, and try to check voiceover, I get the spinning 
> Beachball of death. So the problem isn’t that the volume of the voice is 
> turned down to low. There’s something that is keeping VoiceOver speech from 
> running. And I have no idea what it is or how to find it. Clearly, neither 
> did the people at the service provider I went to today. This is something 
> deep in the system somewhere and I don’t know how to find it. And I don’t 
> know anyone who can help me find it. That’s why I’m going to return this 
> computer.
> 
> Thanks for all your helpful suggestions, though. In a normal situation, they 
> would have made sense.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 5, 2021, at 7:12 PM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Another option to try is connecting a USB headset to the Mac if you can get 
>> a USB adapter for the USBC port.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Behalf Of alia robinson
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 6:56 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>> 
>> can you not try to get speech on with your braille display? I know I had to 
>> do that once, did a read all then used the display to turn up my VO volume, 
>> maybe speech volume got muted or turned down.
>> 
>>> On May 5, 2021, at 6:42 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Update finished, still no speech.
>>> Cheers,
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Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air

[matthew dyer]

Yes.  Wile in recovery mode.  CMD+F5 will bring up VO.  You can then go into 
disk utility and erase the drive then chuse reinstall Mac OS from there.

Matthew



> On May 5, 2021, at 4:33 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> How can you wipe a Mac if you have no speech?
> Command f5 should start VoiceOver.
> Can you wipe the Mac in recovery mode and get speech separate from the OS?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Brad Snyder
> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 4:31 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>  
> I know several VoiceOver users who have new MacBook Airs with the M1 
> processor, and none of them have experienced the issues you report.
> I think your issue stems from doing the Time Machine backup from your old Mac 
> to the new M1 Mac.
> I don’t necessarily think the macOS update will make any difference, but it 
> can’t hurt either.
> I suggest wiping the Mac, and starting over as a completely new Mac.  Then 
> transfer your old data to the new Mac manually.
> I think you will have a lot less trouble doing this.
>  
> - Brad -
> 
>  
> On May 5, 2021, at 13:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
> 
> Recently there has been a discussion about the new MBA, so I thought I would 
> share my experience.
> 
> I unboxed my MBA yesterday afternoon, and it's been nothin but a headache 
> since.  When I booted it for the first time, all seemed fine.  But after I 
> migrated my data using a time machine backup, VO went silent.
> 
> Yesterday afternoon I called Apple Accessibility, and spent a half hour on 
> hold, then another half hour on the phone with some idiot who spent the call 
> directing me to position the camera on my phone with one hand so she could 
> see the screen, while she directed the finger on my other hand to select and 
> activate items on the trackpad.  to say the least, the experience was 
> unpleasant and frustrating, and I finally just gave up and hung up.  My 
> husband and I spent most of last night trying to troubleshoot the problem, as 
> I could do nothing without sighted assistance.  We were not successful.
> 
> This morning I called Apple to request a replacement.  I spent another half 
> hour on the phone with a very nice support person, at the end of which, he 
> directed me to take my computer to the local authorized Apple Service dealer. 
>  My husband and I both just took two hours off work to do that.  I just got 
> back from there.  They weren't able to fix it either.  He said that it looks 
> like VO is unable to select a voice, and has recommended that I install the 
> latest Big Sur update.  I'm downloading it now.  If that doesn't work, I'm 
> going to demand a return, and go back to using my 2017 MacBook Pro, which 
> works just fine.
> 
> So, that's my experience with the new MBA, FWIW.
> Best,
> Donna
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Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air

[matthew dyer]

Hi Donnwa,
Have you tried resetting things and then during the setup, chusing not to 
migrate your settings?  Also, are you tried playing anything to see if by 
chance the sound may be either muted or down in some way?  Just a thoought.  As 
a rool
 Of thumb, I usually do not migrate my things from a backup, but if I need 
something I can just copy it over manually.

Matthew


> On May 5, 2021, at 3:16 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, if I could get the computer to speak.  But so far, neither I nor several 
> others have been able to make that happen.  There should not be compatibility 
> issues, since my MBP is also running Big Sur and has been kept updated.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 5, 2021, at 2:10 PM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Okay,
>> I should have clarified.
>> Can you move all your documents to the cloud and use that instead of Time 
>> Machine?
>> Maybe something in the previous backup isn't compatible between the two 
>> computers?
>> I'm new to the Mac, but I remember a time when there were compatibility 
>> issues between JAWS and older versions of Windows. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:08 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>> 
>> Not quite sure what you're asking.  A lot of my documents are in the cloud, 
>> but not all.  If you're asking about signing out of iCloud, my husband will 
>> have to help me do that, since I have no access to the computer without 
>> speech.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 5, 2021, at 2:01 PM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Can you get your data from the cloud? 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 2:59 PM
>>> To: via MacVisionaries 
>>> Subject: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Recently there has been a discussion about the new MBA, so I thought I 
>>> would share my experience.
>>> 
>>> I unboxed my MBA yesterday afternoon, and it's been nothin but a headache 
>>> since.  When I booted it for the first time, all seemed fine.  But after I 
>>> migrated my data using a time machine backup, VO went silent.
>>> 
>>> Yesterday afternoon I called Apple Accessibility, and spent a half hour on 
>>> hold, then another half hour on the phone with some idiot who spent the 
>>> call directing me to position the camera on my phone with one hand so she 
>>> could see the screen, while she directed the finger on my other hand to 
>>> select and activate items on the trackpad.  to say the least, the 
>>> experience was unpleasant and frustrating, and I finally just gave up and 
>>> hung up.  My husband and I spent most of last night trying to troubleshoot 
>>> the problem, as I could do nothing without sighted assistance.  We were not 
>>> successful.
>>> 
>>> This morning I called Apple to request a replacement.  I spent another half 
>>> hour on the phone with a very nice support person, at the end of which, he 
>>> directed me to take my computer to the local authorized Apple Service 
>>> dealer.  My husband and I both just took two hours off work to do that.  I 
>>> just got back from there.  They weren't able to fix it either.  He said 
>>> that it looks like VO is unable to select a voice, and has recommended that 
>>> I install the latest Big Sur update.  I'm downloading it now.  If that 
>>> doesn't work, I'm going to demand a return, and go back to using my 2017 
>>> MacBook Pro, which works just fine.
>>> 
>>> So, that's my experience with the new MBA, FWIW.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
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RE: Using a VM for windows.

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Vertual box is free, but not sure how well it works with windows.  I use fusion 
and it is the most accessible.  Not sure how much it costs as I bought it a 
while ago.

Matthew



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Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using a VM for windows.

Hi folks.
Was wondering if anyone new of a free option for a VM, or should i just use 
Fusion?
Also I was curious about something call CrossOver. It says it will let you run 
windows apps without using a vm? but I wasn’t sure if that would actually work 
with VO.

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RE: Bootable Bigsur Backup?

[matthew dyer]

Paul,

You need to fix this in the recovery partition.  You need to enable booting of 
external drives.  HTH. Sorry can’t remember what the opsion is called, but you 
should find it in the menu.

Matthew



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From: Paul Hopewell
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 11:43 AM
To: macvisionaries
Subject: Bootable Bigsur Backup?

Hello,
Have any listers successfully created a Bigsure bootable backup on an external 
disk for a 2018 iMac? I used SuperDuper for this for many years on prior Mac/OS 
releases which have rescued my system on several occasions but this no longer 
works on Bigsur. I have looked at the Carbon Copy Cloner web site but this also 
does not seem to easily fix this problem. It seems that I have to first install 
Bigsur on my backup disk so that I can boot from it, but I am then unclear on 
whether I can then use SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner to add my latest user 
data to this external disk say every month or so. The problem seems to be that 
Apple do not offer an interface for these products to copy the now protected 
files to allow booting to an external disk.
Many thanks for any tips … Paul Hopewell

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Re: mac os big sur: insertion on word annoyance

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I get this in mail and find it extremely obnoxious.  have not found a way to 
fix this.

Matthew
from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2021, at 1:32 AM, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm still quite annoyed by the "insertion on word" rpetition I get in many 
> webpages. is there a voice over parameter somewhere to silence this? I'd like 
> to have the cleanest possible navigation experience with the least possible 
> explanations of what is under the cursor or around it, etc. Just a clean 
> voice over experience with nothing spurious.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> A++
> 
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RE: Music doesn't seem to be the same with Big Sur

[matthew dyer]

My problem Is that sometime more often than not, vo gets stuck near the top of 
the window which close and full screen are.  Tabbing around will get me between 
the side bar and the list of tracks, but moving with vo-cursor  doesn't move.  
Anyone else see this?

Matthew



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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Music doesn't seem to be the same with Big Sur

Hi Christine,
The sidebar for me seems to move  and land on the left or right - this may be 
that I had not made the app full size. But, what I do is VO left arrow or right 
arrow and find it. Sometimes, as I had mentioned, it is all the way to the left 
and other times it is to the right. But I don't have a problem in finding it. 
With Catalina it was always in the same position.
Patrick 
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> On Mar 30, 2021, at 5:59 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
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> Is there a way to reliably get to the sidebar? I don't seem to be able to do 
> this. I would like to be able to because I choose playlists a lot. I have to 
> close the app and reopen it, hoping for the sidebar when I do.
> 
> Kristeen
> 
> 
> On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:56 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> You have to VO left and right for the situations where you can no longer use 
> VO J.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 19:33, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I used VO+j all the time. Now there's no reliable to get from a playlist 
>> back to the sie ar.
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>> 
>> I agree. The one big difference that I can recall is you cannot rely on VO J 
>> but otherwise, it’s not that different.
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 10:39, Patrick Ford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I find the functions seem the same as far as searching, and downloading 
>>> and playlists, but the layout is a bit different as far as vo and arrowing.
>>> Patrick  
>>> Come and See
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  wrote:
 
 Are there any tweaks that can make it function the way it did under 
 previous operating systems? It seems a bit broken.
 
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Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I am referring to being able to tell the HomePod to play it directly without 
having to use your phone.  For example, on my android phone and probably.e on 
my iPhone 8+ though I have not tested this I should be able to tell Sirri to 
play a station on Sirius-xm.  I can tell my Samsung device to do this and 
google speakers can do this after you set it up.  You can not do this on apple 
speakers,  HTH.

Matthew



On Mar 16, 2021, at 9:42 AM, kliph miller Sr 
mailto:kliph.miller...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Its been publicly announced that serious XM will be allowed to be your default 
music service in IOS14.5

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together!

On Mar 15, 2021, at 5:28 PM, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi,

My only complante with apple is þ they don't have access to Sirius XM as least 
not through the speaker.  I have considered a google home for that or an amazon 
speaker.

Matthew



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 11:38 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod 
Mini, USA Today

Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. My 
problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. And the 
Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri won’t. Why not? And 
even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web far too often. Even on the 
watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the leading AI of its time and totally 
lost it. I don’t want apple digging into my privacy matters. So I totally agree 
with you there. But I don’t think you have to know all about me in order to 
play a given radio station in a foreign country that exists on a service with 
which Apple supposedly has connections. It’s just screwed up. This is one area 
where Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. The homePod‘s are really nice 
speakers in my opinion.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, at 
least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play every 
station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or iHeart.  You 
might give that another try.

I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I mean, 
it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some of the albums 
that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by creating  playlist 
with the album, and giving it a different name. But you're right, that 
shouldn't be necessary.

All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those 
issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the mini.
Cheers,
Donna


On Mar 14, 2021, at 10:03 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Donna,
I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t think 
Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and never mind 
privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter in these cases. Why, 
for instance, can’t you get radio stations around the world to play reliably? 
Why doesn’t music always play reliably? Why can’t you switch among music 
providers? Apple made a really nice speaker, better than Google certainly, and 
I don’t have the Amazon studio, so I can’t compare. I mean really. HomePod 
aside, Siri still get an awful lot of stuff wrong, and still sends you to the 
web Waymore than it should. Didn’t Apple say that was one of their big focuses 
for this year? Well, they blew it. So now, I have my nice HomePods which may or 
may not ever see any more upgrades. The performance is not reliable. It’s not 
the speaker. It’s the infrastructure. Apple screwed up.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi, Mary,

I'm sure everyone on this list knows I've had my frustrations with Siri. lol 
That said, I'd still rather have Siri than either Alexa or Google. Not that any 
company has a flawless track record, but I trust Apple's handling of privacy 
issues much more than either Amazon or Google. Also, none of the Amazon devices 
I've listened to sound as good as the HomePod does.

I have a couple of minis and they're fine as sort of satellite  Siris that can 
al

RE: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod Mini, USA Today

[matthew dyer]

Hi, 

My only complante with apple is þ they don't have access to Sirius XM as least 
not through the speaker.  I have considered a google home for that or an amazon 
speaker.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 11:38 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple HomePod Discontinued: Apple to Focus on Smaller, HomePod 
Mini, USA Today

Thanks for the link you sent in another message, I will be responding. My 
problem is that a lot of the stations I want our foreign language. And the 
Amazon devices and the Google devices will play them. Siri won’t. Why not? And 
even HomePod aside, Siri just sends me to the web far too often. Even on the 
watch. That’s ridiculous. Apple bought the leading AI of its time and totally 
lost it. I don’t want apple digging into my privacy matters. So I totally agree 
with you there. But I don’t think you have to know all about me in order to 
play a given radio station in a foreign country that exists on a service with 
which Apple supposedly has connections. It’s just screwed up. This is one area 
where Apple totally lost it. And it’s so sad. The homePod‘s are really nice 
speakers in my opinion.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 14, 2021, at 8:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, far be it from me to defend Siri, but she's gotten a lot better, at 
> least with regard to playing radio stations. I can now get her to play every 
> station I want to hear, either from public radio, Tune-In, or iHeart.  You 
> might give that another try.
> 
> I don't get why some music just won't play, and that's still an issue. I 
> mean, it would make sense if they had foreign language titles, but some of 
> the albums that give the most trouble don't. I've just solved that by 
> creating  playlist with the album, and giving it a different name. But you're 
> right, that shouldn't be necessary.
> 
> All this said, I don't see how focusing on the Mini is going to fix those 
> issues. The albums that won't play on my HomePod, also won't play on the mini.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 10:03 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> I agree with you with regard to privacy issues. But I honestly don’t think 
>> Apple has done what they could or should have done with Siri and never mind 
>> privacy issues. That is, privacy issues shouldn’t matter in these cases. 
>> Why, for instance, can’t you get radio stations around the world to play 
>> reliably? Why doesn’t music always play reliably? Why can’t you switch among 
>> music providers? Apple made a really nice speaker, better than Google 
>> certainly, and I don’t have the Amazon studio, so I can’t compare. I mean 
>> really. HomePod aside, Siri still get an awful lot of stuff wrong, and still 
>> sends you to the web Waymore than it should. Didn’t Apple say that was one 
>> of their big focuses for this year? Well, they blew it. So now, I have my 
>> nice HomePods which may or may not ever see any more upgrades. The 
>> performance is not reliable. It’s not the speaker. It’s the infrastructure. 
>> Apple screwed up.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 14, 2021, at 7:44 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Mary,
>>> 
>>> I'm sure everyone on this list knows I've had my frustrations with Siri. 
>>> lol That said, I'd still rather have Siri than either Alexa or Google. Not 
>>> that any company has a flawless track record, but I trust Apple's handling 
>>> of privacy issues much more than either Amazon or Google. Also, none of the 
>>> Amazon devices I've listened to sound as good as the HomePod does.
>>> 
>>> I have a couple of minis and they're fine as sort of satellite  Siris that 
>>> can also play music. I have one in the bedroom, and one down in the 
>>> exercise room. Neither are places where I'm totally focused on the sound 
>>> quality so it's fine. But I would never want a Mini in one of the main 
>>> living spaces of the house.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 I couldn’t agree more, Donna. I was really disappointed. The problem with 
 the homePod isn’t the speaker, it’s Apple and that god awful Siri. They 
 really have not done what they should be doing with that. And there’s no 
 way I’m interested in any HomePod mini. Why? I bought a pair of HomePods 
 for the sound, and it’s very good. For 400 bucks, it sounds almost as good 
 as speakers I paid more for in the past. But now it’s discontinued, so I 
 guess maybe it won’t get more updates? What a rip! Apple, you really 
 screwed it up!
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 5:55 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Wow, that’s too bad. The sound on the HomePod is much better than the 
> mini.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my 

RE: Query regarding Mail in MacOS Big sur.

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Are you using colom view by chance?  If so, that may be the reason.  What you 
could do is setup an activity with verbosity level set to the lowest setting 
and this should saulve your problem.  The other thing you could is seþ the view 
to standdered view.  HTH.

Matthew

us

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Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 6:27 AM
To: Mac Visionaries List 
Subject: Query regarding Mail in MacOS Big sur.

Morning everyone!

Please has anyone on here noticed something really annoying in Mail on MacOS 
Big sur.
VoiceOver has started saying Column one then a certain row number.
Is there any way of stopping this?

I've tried looking in VoiceOver utility under verbossity which my friend 
Christopher Hallsworth suggested. I tried unchecking speak column slash row in 
table headers or something like that wording, this didn't make a difference.
Thanks very much.
Look forward to any responses.
Gary Price
Sent from my 13 inch Mac book pro.

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RE: New Mac.

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

If you want something with a camera, you will want a mac book, Vidio imo is not 
that important to me as I can't see it any how.  

Matthew



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:07 AM
To: 'Stur It Up Productions' via MacVisionaries 

Subject: New Mac.

Hi!
I am thinking of upgrading to the one of the M1 Macs.
So i am comparing the Mac mini with the MacBook Air.
These are the ones I  want.
The Mac Pro has a Touch Bar so that’s not something I never going to use.
But that’s just me.
aTHey’re a bit to expensive also which is something I have to consider but I am 
a bit wondering.
If I get me a Mac  I would like to have as much storage as possible.
Its going to be quite expensive which is strange as you can by a 2 tb ssd for 
less money if you have a pc.
Anyway I wonder how many USB ports and thunderbolt ports there are on the 
respective Mac mini or MacBook Air.
And if I get a Mac mini I would like to have a good camera so I can use 
together with zoom.
All the best from a cold Sweden.
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Re: Dock issue in Big Sur

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Not sure if this is related, but I am having a problem where voice over 
gets stuck in the music app. Fore example, there are three buttons near 
the top of the window close, minize and fullscreen.  The wayI get around 
it is to restart the app.  If I use the tab key, i can get to some of 
the other items.  VO however does not let me vo past the fullscreen 
button.  Anyone else have this problem?

Thanks.

Matthew



On 12/21/20 1:08 PM, 'Larry Honaker' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Greetings All,
>
> As several folks have reported, I have experienced the bug in Big Sur in 
> regards to invoking the menu on items in the dock. I am using a new M1 
> MacBookAir.
>
> I have spent some time with Apple Support and they have provided a sort of 
> workaround for this issue. It certainly is  not as convenient as the original 
> VO+Shift+m; however, it works “most” of the time—and I emphasize , “most” as 
> the workaround does not always open the menu for me.
>
> Anyway, here is the workaround and it is better than nothing until they get 
> the bug fixed.
>
> 1. Go to the dock with VO+d
> 2. Navigate to the item you wish to work with
> 3. Press the key combination of VO+function+Command+5
>(VO says the name of the app you are focused on in the dock)
> 4. Press VO+h+H
> 5. Type r I (no space between the r and i)
> 6. VO will say right mouse click; press return
> This usually opens up the menu where you can access options and other choices 
> usually displayed thru the VO+Shift+m menu.
>
> Again, not perfect but it has worked fairly reliably for me so far.
>
> Hope this helps anyone else dealing with this issue.
>
> Larry W. Honaker
>
> kc8...@icloud.com
>
> Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
> (Psalm 119:105 KJV)
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Anyone here have problems with airplay on there HomePods?

[matthew dyer]

Evening all,

For the last few days now I have had problems with airplay not working with the 
homepod.  I usually,ly can get this fixed with a restart of the device.  That 
is by unpluging and pluging in again.  This seems to work fora while but then 
the problem continues.  I do not want to remove it if I don’t have to.  The 
device is running 14.3 according to the home app.  The strange thing is that 
Siri works just fine.  I am able to do things like ask the time and things like 
that.  However restart is not an option  in the settings.  Anyone else seeing 
this lately?  Like I said this has been going on now for some time.  It 
happened to me twice yesterday and now tonight.  I don’t know if pausing and 
playing music has anything else to do with it, but it is really driving me 
crazy and making it very unreliable to use.

Thanks all.

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Re: VMware and no audio while using windows 10 as the guest operating system. Any suggestions on how I can get audio?

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Is VMware tools installed?

I have no problems with audio here 0on any of my virtual machines I use with 
windows or others.

Matthew



> On Dec 5, 2020, at 4:31 PM, maurice Mines  wrote:
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> Good afternoon my subject line put in much states my problem. The only access 
> that I have to my virtual machine it is an older brilliant 40 Braille 
> display. When I woke and the notification area the message appears no audio 
> output device installed. Just for the record I am running vmware fusion 
> Version 12 which of course is running. Mac OS Big Sur. This is running on a 
> 2020 MacBook Pro 13 inch. If I can't come up with a good solution to this 
> problem, i'll have to pay VMware $30 for tech-support. From what I've been 
> able to read it doing some research it appears to be a known issue but the 
> solution does not appear to be rattle at hand. Does anyone have any 
> suggestions? I am pretty much open to anything. Hopefully someone else on the 
> list has had this situation and hopefully has found a solution for it?
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
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Re: Mac Mail on Big Sur

[Matthew Dyer]

Matthew



My preview pain is hidon.  If you switch to colum layout, this is fine, 
but the normal standderedview this happens.





On 12/1/2020 5:07 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Try this: find with vo+right arrow the vertical spliter just after messages pain. 
Interact with it & vo+down arrow until you hear 100%.  Stop interacting and see 
if it does the trick.

On 1 Dec 2020, at 22:00, Matthew Dyer  wrote:

I am using bixer on a mac mini.  The problem I have is that despite mail set 
not to show preview lines, previews are still spoken.  Is this what we are 
talking about?  If so, this was a problem in catilina.  I have not found a way 
to fix this.  Hth.



Hi,




On 12/1/2020 8:13 AM, 'KliphnShari Miller' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I was actually having this issue with Catalina.  All message preview was turned 
off, but it was still giving me sender, subject, and 1st 2 lines.  Info I don’t 
want to here.


Sent from my iPadPro


On Nov 30, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

True, but this changes the displayed layout of the selected mailbox. This does 
not resolve the issue.

- Brad -

On Nov 30, 2020, at 09:44, John Panarese  wrote:

   You can also uncheck the box in the view menu that says, use column layout. 
I think this might be checked by default in Big Sur.



On Nov 30, 2020, at 9:44 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

I am also experiencing this issue.
This seems to occur only on items that are not “unread” in the mailbox list.
I have gone to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Speech, and have attempted to 
make adjustments in the Custom Verbosity Table, but have not been successful in 
modifying this behavior.

This may be something we just have to live with in Big Sur.

- Brad -


On Nov 28, 2020, at 14:59, Jeff Berwick  wrote:

Hi all,

So I had to upgrade to Big Sur to try to solve an issue I was having with Xcode 
and my iPhone (it didn’t help).

At any rate, I am now hearing too much informationabout the table in mail.  
Every time I curser down to a new message, Voiceover announces “Column 1” prior 
to reading the sender.

I can stop this behaviour by setting the verbosity to low, but I’m wondering if 
there is a way to set this verbosity on a per app bases?

I’ve googled this, but haven’t found anything.

Thanks for any help.
Jeff

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Re: Mac Mail on Big Sur

[Matthew Dyer]

I am using bixer on a mac mini.  The problem I have is that despite mail 
set not to show preview lines, previews are still spoken.  Is this what 
we are talking about?  If so, this was a problem in catilina.  I have 
not found a way to fix this.  Hth.




Hi,




On 12/1/2020 8:13 AM, 'KliphnShari Miller' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I was actually having this issue with Catalina.  All message preview was turned 
off, but it was still giving me sender, subject, and 1st 2 lines.  Info I don’t 
want to here.


Sent from my iPadPro


On Nov 30, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

True, but this changes the displayed layout of the selected mailbox. This does 
not resolve the issue.

- Brad -

On Nov 30, 2020, at 09:44, John Panarese  wrote:

   You can also uncheck the box in the view menu that says, use column layout. 
I think this might be checked by default in Big Sur.



On Nov 30, 2020, at 9:44 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

I am also experiencing this issue.
This seems to occur only on items that are not “unread” in the mailbox list.
I have gone to VoiceOver Utility > Verbosity > Speech, and have attempted to 
make adjustments in the Custom Verbosity Table, but have not been successful in 
modifying this behavior.

This may be something we just have to live with in Big Sur.

- Brad -


On Nov 28, 2020, at 14:59, Jeff Berwick  wrote:

Hi all,

So I had to upgrade to Big Sur to try to solve an issue I was having with Xcode 
and my iPhone (it didn’t help).

At any rate, I am now hearing too much informationabout the table in mail.  
Every time I curser down to a new message, Voiceover announces “Column 1” prior 
to reading the sender.

I can stop this behaviour by setting the verbosity to low, but I’m wondering if 
there is a way to set this verbosity on a per app bases?

I’ve googled this, but haven’t found anything.

Thanks for any help.
Jeff

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Re: major issue with Big Sur install

[matthew dyer]

Hi Mike. 

I just did a start upgrade.  I can give this a look at some point, have you 
contacted apple accessibility about this?  Thanks.

Matthew



> On Nov 21, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> I went ahead and created a Big Sur install on a USB flash drive. After 
> booting from it, I discovered a major issue with Voiceover. When installing a 
> new major operating system, I prefer to erase my drive and install from 
> scratch. Wehn trying to access the list of drives in disk utility, voiceover 
> crashes making this task impossible at this point. Wondering if anyone else 
> can reproduce this. I know there have been several other issues with using 
> Voiceover in Big Sur recovery as well.
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RE: Am I write and thinking that the Mac mini from 2018 does not have a headset jack?

[matthew dyer]

Good morning,

I unfortionetly opened the box and tore it opened it, but will be looking 
forsomething else for sure.  Will have to see whart I can come up with.  
Anyqway.  I'm sure I will see what I can do.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:31 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Am I write and thinking that the Mac mini from 2018 does not have 
a headset jack?

Don't bother replacing the speakers. The same thing will happen. Unless they 
have a model specificallyh designed for Apple Mac or IOS devices, I would 
simply return them for a refund and look for a different option.

Best,

Janina

matthew dyer writes:
> Hi Brad and all,
> 
> Just tried pair of ear buds with a 3.5 jack and they work fine.  I am incline 
> to thingk it is a bad set they gave me since they do not work on any of my 
> other devices.  What a shame.  They power up, but they do not show up as an 
> option in sound preferences. There is  9only internal speaker, then an empty 
> item which vo just says name then airplay device.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Brad Snyder 
> mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> I’ve had speakers similar to this that I used on a Windows PC at work.  They 
> functioned just fine on my Windows machine, so I am wondering why you are 
> having a problem using them on a Mac mini.
> I know you said you can see a little green light, so you know the speakers 
> have power.
> I’m wondering if there is a way to make sure there is not a problem with the 
> audio output jack.
> Perhaps you could try plugging in a pair of 3.5 mm headphones into the audio 
> output jack to see if they will work,, or try a different pair of speakers.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2020, at 15:54, matthew dyer 
> mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi PPeet,
> 
> Here you,.  Thees are usb speakers and are suposivly plug and play.  You plug 
> in the usb end into the USB port of your machine which is how they get power 
> and then youplugin the 3.5 mm end into the jack for sound output.  With that 
> here is the link.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DDK3W5D/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_titl
> e_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Pete De Vasto 
> mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Matthew,
> 
> Would you be willing to share the brand and model of your speakers? I’m 
> intrigued by you saying that the cord has a USB plug on one end and a 
> 3.5-inch plug on the other, and I’d like to learn more about the concept.
> 
> Thanks,
> Pete De Vasto
> 
> On Nov 14, 2020, at 12:26 PM, matthew dyer 
> mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Peet,
> 
> I still have sound through the internal speeker even wile the speakers 
> connected.  Other headphones work far as I know.  I am guessing it is the 
> speakers themselfs but not sure as I sill have a surface pro I might be able 
> to test with.  My linux machine did not work there either.
> 
> The cord has a usb connecter on one end which plugs into a USB port and the 
> other  end is a 3.5 mm jack which plugs into a  3.5 jack.  Both are plugged 
> in so not sure.  What is going on.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 14, 2020, at 12:55 PM, Pete De Vasto 
> mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a couple of questions about this, and I’m sure you’ve looked at these, 
> but I feel better at least asking. First, do you have any other devices with 
> 3.5-inch jacks that you can connect your speakers to, do they work with these 
> other devices? Next, do you by chance have a pair of headphones that have a 
> 3.5-inch mini plug? If so, have you tried connecting these headphones to the 
> jack on your Mac mini? Also, if there’s a volume adjustment somewhere in 
> System Prefs, have you checked it to make sure you have it at any level, like 
> maybe even 50%? Another idea, if you have music on your computer, try playing 
> a song or other audio content. I’m wondering if there may be something in VO 
> that’s affecting things when you switch audio output from internal speakers 
> to the output jack. Finally, perhaps something is muted? I hope these aren’t 
> too goofy a bunch of questions.
> 
> Pete De Vasto.
> 
> On Nov 14, 2020, at 8:27 AM, matthew dyer 
> mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Yes and this is a shame as I really want to get thees speakers running on 
> this machine.  Oh well I guess I will have to keep hunting for something that 
> works.  Like I said I can confirm that they have power.  VO just says name 
> which

Re: Am I write and thinking that the Mac mini from 2018 does not have a headset jack?

[matthew dyer]

Hi Brad and all,

Just tried pair of ear buds with a 3.5 jack and they work fine.  I am incline 
to thingk it is a bad set they gave me since they do not work on any of my 
other devices.  What a shame.  They power up, but they do not show up as an 
option in sound preferences. There is  9only internal speaker, then an empty 
item which vo just says name then airplay device.

Matthew



On Nov 15, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

I’ve had speakers similar to this that I used on a Windows PC at work.  They 
functioned just fine on my Windows machine, so I am wondering why you are 
having a problem using them on a Mac mini.
I know you said you can see a little green light, so you know the speakers have 
power.
I’m wondering if there is a way to make sure there is not a problem with the 
audio output jack.
Perhaps you could try plugging in a pair of 3.5 mm headphones into the audio 
output jack to see if they will work,, or try a different pair of speakers.

- Brad -


On Nov 15, 2020, at 15:54, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi PPeet,

Here you,.  Thees are usb speakers and are suposivly plug and play.  You plug 
in the usb end into the USB port of your machine which is how they get power 
and then youplugin the 3.5 mm end into the jack for sound output.  With that 
here is the link.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DDK3W5D/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1

Matthew


On Nov 15, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Pete De Vasto 
mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Matthew,

Would you be willing to share the brand and model of your speakers? I’m 
intrigued by you saying that the cord has a USB plug on one end and a 3.5-inch 
plug on the other, and I’d like to learn more about the concept.

Thanks,
Pete De Vasto

On Nov 14, 2020, at 12:26 PM, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Peet,

I still have sound through the internal speeker even wile the speakers 
connected.  Other headphones work far as I know.  I am guessing it is the 
speakers themselfs but not sure as I sill have a surface pro I might be able to 
test with.  My linux machine did not work there either.

The cord has a usb connecter on one end which plugs into a USB port and the 
other  end is a 3.5 mm jack which plugs into a  3.5 jack.  Both are plugged in 
so not sure.  What is going on.

Matthew



On Nov 14, 2020, at 12:55 PM, Pete De Vasto 
mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I have a couple of questions about this, and I’m sure you’ve looked at these, 
but I feel better at least asking. First, do you have any other devices with 
3.5-inch jacks that you can connect your speakers to, do they work with these 
other devices? Next, do you by chance have a pair of headphones that have a 
3.5-inch mini plug? If so, have you tried connecting these headphones to the 
jack on your Mac mini? Also, if there’s a volume adjustment somewhere in System 
Prefs, have you checked it to make sure you have it at any level, like maybe 
even 50%? Another idea, if you have music on your computer, try playing a song 
or other audio content. I’m wondering if there may be something in VO that’s 
affecting things when you switch audio output from internal speakers to the 
output jack. Finally, perhaps something is muted? I hope these aren’t too goofy 
a bunch of questions.

Pete De Vasto.

On Nov 14, 2020, at 8:27 AM, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Yes and this is a shame as I really want to get thees speakers running on this 
machine.  Oh well I guess I will have to keep hunting for something that works. 
 Like I said I can confirm that they have power.  VO just says name which is 
empty.

Matthew




On Nov 14, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

I do notice that on my 2019 MacBook Pro, also running macOS Catalina 10.15.7, 
the Headphone jack does not show up int the list of Output devices when nothing 
is plugged into the jack.

- Brad -


On Nov 14, 2020, at 09:20, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Well, I have no explanation for this.  The external audio jack shows up on my 
2018 Mac mini with or without anything connected.
I am running macOS Catalina 10.15.7.

- Brad -


On Nov 14, 2020, at 08:34, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi, it doesn’t show up at all. I have internal speakers  and airplay device. 
Very strange.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 13, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

 In System Preferences > Sound > Output Devices, the Audio output port on the 
back of the Mac mini will show as External Headphones, even when speakers are 
connected.

HTH

- Brad -


On Nov 13, 2020, at 17:12, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi Brad,

I think I got it.  Only problem is that in sound settings is not showing i

Re: Am I write and thinking that the Mac mini from 2018 does not have a headset jack?

[matthew dyer]

Hi PPeet,

Here you,.  Thees are usb speakers and are suposivly plug and play.  You plug 
in the usb end into the USB port of your machine which is how they get power 
and then youplugin the 3.5 mm end into the jack for sound output.  With that 
here is the link.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DDK3W5D/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1

Matthew


On Nov 15, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:

Matthew,

Would you be willing to share the brand and model of your speakers? I’m 
intrigued by you saying that the cord has a USB plug on one end and a 3.5-inch 
plug on the other, and I’d like to learn more about the concept.

Thanks,
Pete De Vasto

On Nov 14, 2020, at 12:26 PM, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Peet,

I still have sound through the internal speeker even wile the speakers 
connected.  Other headphones work far as I know.  I am guessing it is the 
speakers themselfs but not sure as I sill have a surface pro I might be able to 
test with.  My linux machine did not work there either.

The cord has a usb connecter on one end which plugs into a USB port and the 
other  end is a 3.5 mm jack which plugs into a  3.5 jack.  Both are plugged in 
so not sure.  What is going on.

Matthew



On Nov 14, 2020, at 12:55 PM, Pete De Vasto 
mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I have a couple of questions about this, and I’m sure you’ve looked at these, 
but I feel better at least asking. First, do you have any other devices with 
3.5-inch jacks that you can connect your speakers to, do they work with these 
other devices? Next, do you by chance have a pair of headphones that have a 
3.5-inch mini plug? If so, have you tried connecting these headphones to the 
jack on your Mac mini? Also, if there’s a volume adjustment somewhere in System 
Prefs, have you checked it to make sure you have it at any level, like maybe 
even 50%? Another idea, if you have music on your computer, try playing a song 
or other audio content. I’m wondering if there may be something in VO that’s 
affecting things when you switch audio output from internal speakers to the 
output jack. Finally, perhaps something is muted? I hope these aren’t too goofy 
a bunch of questions.

Pete De Vasto.

On Nov 14, 2020, at 8:27 AM, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Yes and this is a shame as I really want to get thees speakers running on this 
machine.  Oh well I guess I will have to keep hunting for something that works. 
 Like I said I can confirm that they have power.  VO just says name which is 
empty.

Matthew




On Nov 14, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

I do notice that on my 2019 MacBook Pro, also running macOS Catalina 10.15.7, 
the Headphone jack does not show up int the list of Output devices when nothing 
is plugged into the jack.

- Brad -


On Nov 14, 2020, at 09:20, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Well, I have no explanation for this.  The external audio jack shows up on my 
2018 Mac mini with or without anything connected.
I am running macOS Catalina 10.15.7.

- Brad -


On Nov 14, 2020, at 08:34, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi, it doesn’t show up at all. I have internal speakers  and airplay device. 
Very strange.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 13, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

 In System Preferences > Sound > Output Devices, the Audio output port on the 
back of the Mac mini will show as External Headphones, even when speakers are 
connected.

HTH

- Brad -


On Nov 13, 2020, at 17:12, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi Brad,

I think I got it.  Only problem is that in sound settings is not showing it,  
That might be do to not having restarted yet, but there is a device that is not 
speaking.  The light is on on the speaker so I know it is getting power.  
Thanks.

Matthew



On Nov 13, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Mac mini 2018 has a 3.5 mm audio output located on the back of the unit, below 
the 2 USB-A ports.
The unit does not have an audio input jack.



- Brad -


On Nov 13, 2020, at 15:47, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi all,

I have a Mac mini 2018 and unless I am missing something, Ido not see a headset 
jack on the machine.  Does this machine not have one?  If not, is there a usb 
adaptor that I can get for this as I just got a new set of speakers with a 3.5 
jack on one end and a usb connecter on the other.  Thanks.

Matthew


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Re: Am I write and thinking that the Mac mini from 2018 does not have a headset jack?

[matthew dyer]

Peet,

I still have sound through the internal speeker even wile the speakers 
connected.  Other headphones work far as I know.  I am guessing it is the 
speakers themselfs but not sure as I sill have a surface pro I might be able to 
test with.  My linux machine did not work there either.

The cord has a usb connecter on one end which plugs into a USB port and the 
other  end is a 3.5 mm jack which plugs into a  3.5 jack.  Both are plugged in 
so not sure.  What is going on.

Matthew



On Nov 14, 2020, at 12:55 PM, Pete De Vasto 
mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I have a couple of questions about this, and I’m sure you’ve looked at these, 
but I feel better at least asking. First, do you have any other devices with 
3.5-inch jacks that you can connect your speakers to, do they work with these 
other devices? Next, do you by chance have a pair of headphones that have a 
3.5-inch mini plug? If so, have you tried connecting these headphones to the 
jack on your Mac mini? Also, if there’s a volume adjustment somewhere in System 
Prefs, have you checked it to make sure you have it at any level, like maybe 
even 50%? Another idea, if you have music on your computer, try playing a song 
or other audio content. I’m wondering if there may be something in VO that’s 
affecting things when you switch audio output from internal speakers to the 
output jack. Finally, perhaps something is muted? I hope these aren’t too goofy 
a bunch of questions.

Pete De Vasto.

On Nov 14, 2020, at 8:27 AM, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Yes and this is a shame as I really want to get thees speakers running on this 
machine.  Oh well I guess I will have to keep hunting for something that works. 
 Like I said I can confirm that they have power.  VO just says name which is 
empty.

Matthew




On Nov 14, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

I do notice that on my 2019 MacBook Pro, also running macOS Catalina 10.15.7, 
the Headphone jack does not show up int the list of Output devices when nothing 
is plugged into the jack.

- Brad -


On Nov 14, 2020, at 09:20, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Well, I have no explanation for this.  The external audio jack shows up on my 
2018 Mac mini with or without anything connected.
I am running macOS Catalina 10.15.7.

- Brad -


On Nov 14, 2020, at 08:34, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi, it doesn’t show up at all. I have internal speakers  and airplay device. 
Very strange.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 13, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

 In System Preferences > Sound > Output Devices, the Audio output port on the 
back of the Mac mini will show as External Headphones, even when speakers are 
connected.

HTH

- Brad -


On Nov 13, 2020, at 17:12, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi Brad,

I think I got it.  Only problem is that in sound settings is not showing it,  
That might be do to not having restarted yet, but there is a device that is not 
speaking.  The light is on on the speaker so I know it is getting power.  
Thanks.

Matthew



On Nov 13, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Mac mini 2018 has a 3.5 mm audio output located on the back of the unit, below 
the 2 USB-A ports.
The unit does not have an audio input jack.



- Brad -


On Nov 13, 2020, at 15:47, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi all,

I have a Mac mini 2018 and unless I am missing something, Ido not see a headset 
jack on the machine.  Does this machine not have one?  If not, is there a usb 
adaptor that I can get for this as I just got a new set of speakers with a 3.5 
jack on one end and a usb connecter on the other.  Thanks.

Matthew


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Re: Am I write and thinking that the Mac mini from 2018 does not have a headset jack?

[matthew dyer]

Yes and this is a shame as I really want to get thees speakers running on this 
machine.  Oh well I guess I will have to keep hunting for something that works. 
 Like I said I can confirm that they have power.  VO just says name which is 
empty.

Matthew




On Nov 14, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

I do notice that on my 2019 MacBook Pro, also running macOS Catalina 10.15.7, 
the Headphone jack does not show up int the list of Output devices when nothing 
is plugged into the jack.

- Brad -


On Nov 14, 2020, at 09:20, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Well, I have no explanation for this.  The external audio jack shows up on my 
2018 Mac mini with or without anything connected.
I am running macOS Catalina 10.15.7.

- Brad -


On Nov 14, 2020, at 08:34, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi, it doesn’t show up at all. I have internal speakers  and airplay device. 
Very strange.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 13, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

 In System Preferences > Sound > Output Devices, the Audio output port on the 
back of the Mac mini will show as External Headphones, even when speakers are 
connected.

HTH

- Brad -


On Nov 13, 2020, at 17:12, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi Brad,

I think I got it.  Only problem is that in sound settings is not showing it,  
That might be do to not having restarted yet, but there is a device that is not 
speaking.  The light is on on the speaker so I know it is getting power.  
Thanks.

Matthew



On Nov 13, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Mac mini 2018 has a 3.5 mm audio output located on the back of the unit, below 
the 2 USB-A ports.
The unit does not have an audio input jack.



- Brad -


On Nov 13, 2020, at 15:47, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi all,

I have a Mac mini 2018 and unless I am missing something, Ido not see a headset 
jack on the machine.  Does this machine not have one?  If not, is there a usb 
adaptor that I can get for this as I just got a new set of speakers with a 3.5 
jack on one end and a usb connecter on the other.  Thanks.

Matthew


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Re: Am I write and thinking that the Mac mini from 2018 does not have a headset jack?

[matthew dyer]

Hi, it doesn’t show up at all. I have internal speakers  and airplay device. 
Very strange.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 13, 2020, at 8:39 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

 In System Preferences > Sound > Output Devices, the Audio output port on the 
back of the Mac mini will show as External Headphones, even when speakers are 
connected.

HTH

- Brad -


On Nov 13, 2020, at 17:12, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi Brad,

I think I got it.  Only problem is that in sound settings is not showing it,  
That might be do to not having restarted yet, but there is a device that is not 
speaking.  The light is on on the speaker so I know it is getting power.  
Thanks.

Matthew



On Nov 13, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Mac mini 2018 has a 3.5 mm audio output located on the back of the unit, below 
the 2 USB-A ports.
The unit does not have an audio input jack.



- Brad -


On Nov 13, 2020, at 15:47, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi all,

I have a Mac mini 2018 and unless I am missing something, Ido not see a headset 
jack on the machine.  Does this machine not have one?  If not, is there a usb 
adaptor that I can get for this as I just got a new set of speakers with a 3.5 
jack on one end and a usb connecter on the other.  Thanks.

Matthew


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Re: Am I write and thinking that the Mac mini from 2018 does not have a headset jack?

[matthew dyer]

Hi Brad,

I think I got it.  Only problem is that in sound settings is not showing it,  
That might be do to not having restarted yet, but there is a device that is not 
speaking.  The light is on on the speaker so I know it is getting power.  
Thanks.

Matthew



On Nov 13, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Mac mini 2018 has a 3.5 mm audio output located on the back of the unit, below 
the 2 USB-A ports.
The unit does not have an audio input jack.



- Brad -


On Nov 13, 2020, at 15:47, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Hi all,

I have a Mac mini 2018 and unless I am missing something, Ido not see a headset 
jack on the machine.  Does this machine not have one?  If not, is there a usb 
adaptor that I can get for this as I just got a new set of speakers with a 3.5 
jack on one end and a usb connecter on the other.  Thanks.

Matthew


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Am I write and thinking that the Mac mini from 2018 does not have a headset jack?

[matthew dyer]

Hi all,

I have a Mac mini 2018 and unless I am missing something, Ido not see a headset 
jack on the machine.  Does this machine not have one?  If not, is there a usb 
adaptor that I can get for this as I just got a new set of speakers with a 3.5 
jack on one end and a usb connecter on the other.  Thanks.

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VLC not coming through headset but all other audio works just fine.

[matthew dyer]

Evening all,

I am wondering if anyone has had the following problem.  

I have a beets solos pro headset which works fine, but there is one problem 
which just started happening the other day and I could not find a fix for this. 
 All audio comes through the headset with no problem that is except audio 
played through VLC media player.  The audio still comes through the internal 
speaker of my Mac mini.  I am running cattlenia. With all updates.  Any way to 
fix this?  I looked in sound preferences and it. Did not see any way to fix it. 
 

THanks.

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RE: really slow Mac Mini

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Hi,

Using 10αeγ do not have this problem.  What year mac mini is it?  I have the 
2018 mottle with 16 GB of ram and a 1 tb SSD.  HTH.

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Subject: really slow Mac Mini

some update has really slowed my Mac Mini down. I don't know what it was but I 
restarted in order to install something and now my Mac is really dragging. 
anybody else having problems like this? I'm running Mojave still but I'm 
planning to upgrade to Big Sir sometime in the near future.

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RE: Twitterrific for Mac?

[matthew dyer]

I,

Have it on my mac mini and it wporks with no problem all though I have not used 
in a while, but had no problems with it last time I tried it.

Matthew


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Subject: Twitterrific for Mac?

Hey all, looking around the app store for a Twitter client that will work on 
High Sierra. Twitterrific fits the bill. Anyone use this on the Mac? Could you 
give some feedback on your experience?

In the mean time, I’ve installed Friendly for Twitter, but I’m not loving it. 
Lol

Thanks,
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RE: Mac Mini Now On Order

[matthew dyer]

Hey,

Oh yeah.  On wifi so yes.  Dlad you got your new keyboard. Keyboar I just have 
the apple keyboard with numpad.  Works for me.

Matthew



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Subject: Re: Mac Mini Now On Order

Hey, Matthew. I bet you forgot to mention a network connection? Surely your 
Mini isn't off the grid? 

Just teasing you a little!

PS: My bluetooth keyboard arrived today. What an elegant unit. However, I may 
not be comfortable with it as my main board, though I am likely to pack it for 
travel on longer trips (when travel is again routine).

Best,

Janina

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> I hhsave nothing connected at the moment.  Just a wierles apple keyboard and 
> my external HD for backups.  HTH.
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> presents of a monitor?
> I have been under the belief that either a monitor must be connected to a Mac 
> mini, or an adapter must be plugged into the HDMI port to simulate the 
> presents of a monitor.  I have been told this was the case on 2012 and 2014 
> minis.  Perhaps this is no longer the case with the 2018 model.
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> Alsa, a slite correction, you do not need to connect a monitor.  I am using a 
> mac mini 2018 just fine without one.  As for a usb keyboard, yes you should 
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RE: Mac Mini Now On Order

[matthew dyer]

Brad,

I hhsave nothing connected at the moment.  Just a wierles apple keyboard and my 
external HD for backups.  HTH.

Matthew



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To clarify, you are using a 2018 Mac mini without a monitor.  Are you using a 
DVI or VGA to HDMI adapter plugged into the HDMI port to simulate the presents 
of a monitor?
I have been under the belief that either a monitor must be connected to a Mac 
mini, or an adapter must be plugged into the HDMI port to simulate the presents 
of a monitor.  I have been told this was the case on 2012 and 2014 minis.  
Perhaps this is no longer the case with the 2018 model.
- Brad -

On Mar 25, 2020, at 09:48, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
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Alsa, a slite correction, you do not need to connect a monitor.  I am using a 
mac mini 2018 just fine without one.  As for a usb keyboard, yes you should be 
fine.  The windows key is your command key and your ault key is your opsion 
key.  Outside of that, it will work.

Matthew



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RE: Mac Mini Now On Order

[matthew dyer]

Alsa, a slite correction, you do not need to connect a monitor.  I am using a 
mac mini 2018 just fine without one.  As for a usb keyboard, yes you should be 
fine.  The windows key is your command key and your ault key is your opsion 
key.  Outside of that, it will work.

Matthew



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Re: Mac Mini Builtin Speaker

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,


I have a 2018 mac mini and the sound is just fine for speech.  I usually 
just put the sound all the way up but even with that it works fine.  If 
not, there is a headset jack  whare you could plugin a cheep speaker if 
need be, but I find the sound quility HTH.



Matthew



On 3/24/20 4:39 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi All:

Wondering whether anyone here has experience of the newer, 2018
generation Mac Mini. I'm particularly interested in the builtin speaker.
Is it adequate for Voice Over use? Is the volume and sound quality
adequate for TTS? Where is the speaker located on the unit physically?

Thanks in advance for any guidance. I'm contemplating placing an order
for one of these loaded to the gills.

Best,

Janina



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RE: Writing .iso images to a usb thumb drive in cattleina is this possible?

[matthew dyer]

I have several.  UBUNTU comes to mind.  I also have Fedora 31.  Would each 
distro be different in how it works.  Thanks.

Matthew



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possible?

What is the iso of 

If you  tell us that it might help with a solution.

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Subject: Writing .iso images to a usb thumb drive in cattleina is this possible?

Hi all,

Hope someone can help me with this one since I have looked online for an answer 
but have not found anything that would help.  I am trying to find a way to 
write an iso file to a usb thumb drive that would work with 10.15.3.  I did 
some searching around and found some directions which require converting the 
iso file first, but is there an easier way to do this either with a GUI program 
or through something like DD for example?  If anyone has any idea  it would be 
greatly helpful.

Thanks.

Matthew

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RE: Writing .iso images to a usb thumb drive in cattleina is this possible?

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Correct, the option you are referring to is called DD which is disk image mode. 
 I am wanting to install fresh on an olderolder machine.  This older machine 
has mo operating system at the moment.  Thanks.  I did come across “ß mac 
prog’rams which would do this, but none which are accessible.

Matthew



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 3:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Writing .iso images to a usb thumb drive in cattleina is this 
possible?

I believe there is a function within linux itself that will allow you to from 
the iso create a bootable installer on to a USB device.

I did have one of these a few years back but it was created for me I didn’t do 
it myself.

You can also in the same way install linux on to the USB Flash drive so it is 
bootable as a fully functioning  Usb  linux installation.

I’ve got a feeling ubuntu allow this from their image.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
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possible?

Hi,

You are correct in that it will not be bootable when just copied over.  Sorry, 
making a MacOS installer bootable works for me, but Linux is a different 
animal.  I'm not sure how it can be done.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:57, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
wrote:

Tim, I am wanting to make it bootable.  Simply copy and pasting will not do 
this to my knowledge or am I wrong?  For example, I have a linux distribution I 
wanna to install on another machine I would need to make it bootable in order 
to use it.  HTH.

Matthew



On Mar 19, 2020, at 10:06 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

If you already have the ISO image file, just copy and paste it to the external 
media.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 19, 2020, at 07:23, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> 
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Hi all,

Hope someone can help me with this one since I have looked online for an answer 
but have not found anything that would help.  I am trying to find a way to 
write an iso file to a usb thumb drive that would work with 10.15.3.  I did 
some searching around and found some directions which require converting the 
iso file first, but is there an easier way to do this either with a GUI program 
or through something like DD for example?  If anyone has any idea  it would be 
greatly helpful.

Thanks.

Matthew

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Re: Writing .iso images to a usb thumb drive in cattleina is this possible?

[matthew dyer]

Tim, I am wanting to make it bootable.  Simply copy and pasting will not do 
this to my knowledge or am I wrong?  For example, I have a linux distribution I 
wanna to install on another machine I would need to make it bootable in order 
to use it.  HTH.

Matthew



> On Mar 19, 2020, at 10:06 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> If you already have the ISO image file, just copy and paste it to the 
> external media.
> 
> Later...
> 
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> Tim Kilburn
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Hope someone can help me with this one since I have looked online for an 
> answer but have not found anything that would help.  I am trying to find a 
> way to write an iso file to a usb thumb drive that would work with 10.15.3.  
> I did some searching around and found some directions which require 
> converting the iso file first, but is there an easier way to do this either 
> with a GUI program or through something like DD for example?  If anyone has 
> any idea  it would be greatly helpful.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
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Writing .iso images to a usb thumb drive in cattleina is this possible?

[matthew dyer]

Hi all,

Hope someone can help me with this one since I have looked online for an answer 
but have not found anything that would help.  I am trying to find a way to 
write an iso file to a usb thumb drive that would work with 10.15.3.  I did 
some searching around and found some directions which require converting the 
iso file first, but is there an easier way to do this either with a GUI program 
or through something like DD for example?  If anyone has any idea  it would be 
greatly helpful.

Thanks.

Matthew

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Re: Silencing Voice over

[matthew dyer]

Hi Eric,

Sorry  not having this problem on a mac mini with 16 gb of ram and a 1 TB SSAID 
 f 2018.  Also using Catilina.  Thanks.

Matthew

On Mar 15, 2020 10:38 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
Hi listers,

I remember in the past using the control key to stop VO from talking.  
Than a second press to start speech again.

In the last two operating systems I don’t seem to be able to do this any 
longer.  Am I missing something?

In most cases when I press the control key  VO just keeps talking and than at 
the end says control.  This is because I have the modifier keys set to speak 
when pressed.

So, for example in mail I may press down arrow to hear a message and then want 
to stop speech with control.  I press it and it just keeps talking.

Is there another key now to obtain silence and then return to speech?
A little more experimentation is indicating to me that if I turn VO off and on 
again the function seems to work again for a time.

Are others experiencing the same?

I find I have to toggle VO off and on a lot lately to get it to work correctly. 
This happens a lot when editing text in mail.


Eric Caron


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Re: google notification re apple event

[matthew dyer]

Yes it was announced in Mac daily news.  The new Iphone se2 is delade as well.  

Matthew



> On Mar 12, 2020, at 3:53 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Hi Lists,
>  
> I’ve cross posted to get this to everyone,
>  
> I’ve been doing some hunting online using chrome as my browser,
>  
> While I was searching a auto popup from chrome spoke to me saying that the 
> March Apple event has been cancelled.
> Has anyone else heard this as yet?
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RE: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to Inbox in Mail

[matthew dyer]

I am using outlook 365 and have the same problem.  It mkes me have to run my 
filters manualy every time.

Matthew



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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Subject: How to change an incoming e-mail from going to Junk to going to Inbox 
in Mail

Guys,
I almost never post here.  I’ve just noticed that one of the mailing lists to 
which I subscribe is having its posts always sent to the Junk box in Mac aMail. 
 I have no idea why.  I’ve been a member of this list for years and this 
behavior seems to have just started within the last week.  I’ve tried 
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success.  No idea what to do.
Sorry if I’m not giving you enough information.

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Re: iPad Models

[matthew dyer]

Hi e.t. The ipad mini uses the a12 chip.  I think the iphone 8 uses the a10 
chip.  HTH.

Matthew

On Jan 3, 2020 1:17 AM, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
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Simon,
I like the mini 4 only because it is the only iPad I have used,
except for the mini 3. Just took a quick look at specs and prices. The
mini 5 might do well. I'm getring used to the BT keyboard which can
connect to up to 3 devices. And there is iCloud Drive so all devices can
share.

Given the difference in cost between Pro and mini, I can live with
the mini. I don't know what chip the mini 4 has but my iPhone 8 has it
beat. :) Ok found the chip. Yes the mini 5 will almost match the iPhone
8. Close enough.

Thanks Simon. Appreciate the overview.

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On 1/2/2020 9:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> I found the pro I had great,
>
> That's an 11" with smart keyboard etc,
>
> I never connected to a 1TB drive But I did connect to my network drive to 
> view a movie and that worked fine.
>
> The air I viewed as being just a slightly larger screen size which now takes 
> a smart keyboard folio and first gen pencil,
> But doesn't have the quad speakers
> Face ID
>
> The other thing to think about though is if your liking the iPad mini 4
> Then the iPad mini 5 has features of the pro / air but just in the smaller 
> profile.
>
>   Th eonly thing I'm not happy about with the mini 5 is I can't find a good 
> quality keyboard folio
> I'd love to see apple produce a pro mini version
> Or at least a mini with the folio keyboard and face id.
> Good luck.
>
>
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>  One aspect of the Pro is ability to connect external drives. Any 
> limitations on what the Pro can access? Like a 1tb plus iTunes library?
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Re: Question about mouse click on the Mac

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Could you not try a vo-shift-space?  Is that not  a simulation of a mouse 
click? Thanks:

Matthew

On Dec 25, 2019 6:27 PM, 'Gail Selfridge' via MacVisionaries 
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I have come across a problem for which I can find no solution. I am using a Mac 
book air running Sierra. I am staying with Sierra because I have a job right 
now that will end shortly and I don’t want to mess up that job by bringing on a 
new operating system that may puzzled me. But I have come across something in 
my personal use that puzzles me anyway. I have come across a situation which 
demands a mouse click and of coarse I have no mouse. I probably could click it 
if I had one but I don’t. And I don’t really want to mess with a mouse for one 
little problem. I just got a Google home speaker and I am really fascinated 
with it but I would like to sign up for something that will make it so that I 
can ask for songs individually. The problem is that I have to change my 
password. That usually is no big deal but this one has a link which it demands 
I click. I can’t find a way of clicking this link on my Mac. Since I have no 
Mouse I would have to do it using the keyboard but I don’t know how to do that. 
Is there a keyboard command that will act like a mouse click on the Mac? I know 
there is on the windows computer and I have a Windows computer but it gave me 
so many problems I have pretty well trashed it and I wouldn’t like to try to 
get it up just to solve this problem.



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Re: Audio Improvement With Boot Camp

[matthew dyer]

Hi

Y" go through apple soutware update. and if there are any update it should 
notify you and allow you to download and insta'll.
Hth.

Matthew

On Dec 25, 2019 11:50 AM, joseph hodge  wrote:
How do you update the boot camp drivers?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 25, 2019, at 2:04 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> By default boot camp sets the windows partition at approx. 40 gig
>
> I then using the slider change my windows partition to allow for apps and 
> everything else to be installed so I set the win partition to approx. 50% of 
> the available size.
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>Also it being a partition which will not shrink or expand as needed, you 
> need to plan ahead. VMware Fusion on the other hand creates a folder in 
> Documents so total disk space that macOS includes both. But if you use Time 
> Machine you need to exclude that folder for it will backup the whole folder 
> every time you do something in Windows.
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>> E.T., Okay, that sounds less than the 128Gb suggested for a Boot Camp
>> partition. Other than the cost for VMWare Fusion, why is that option
>> seeming a bit frightening?
>>
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Re: Audio Improvement With Boot Camp

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Hi,

I  still noticed this on my Mac mini after an update all though not as bad.  

Matthew



> On Dec 24, 2019, at 10:15 AM, ke...@kellford.com wrote:
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> Hi,
>  
> I am curious if anyone else has noticed an improvement with the audio when 
> running Windows under Boot Camp.  With the most recent update, the issue of 
> missing the first syllable of speech is so far gone for me with the different 
> screen readers.  I’m not sure when the updated drivers and such were released 
> but when I ran Windows on my Mac this morning there were updates from Apple.
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Re: Turing off preview in Catalina Mail problem

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I am wondering if this is a bug in vo? I run into the same problem. THANKS.

On Dec 21, 2019 5:49 PM, Christian  wrote:
Hi Jeff,

I have already set it to 100, but VoiceOver still speaks the message content in 
the message list in Catalina Mail.
Many thanks,
Christian

21 dec. 2019 kl. 20:07 skrev Jeff Berwick 
mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name>>:

I experienced it as well and solved it by setting the horizontal scroll bar to 
100%.  It is the next item past the message list.

Hth,
Jeff


On Dec 21, 2019, at 2:05 PM, Christian 
mailto:christia...@runbox.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I have turned off preview in mail, but VoiceOver keeps reading the message 
content, but it is not shown on my braille display. This happens in the message 
list. Has anyone else experienced this?
Best regards,
Christian

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RE: Problems trying to create bootable USB Drive

[matthew dyer]

Hi,  Are you by chance able to boot into recovery?  If so, you will want to 
enable the ability to boot from external usb drives.  I am running into the 
same similar problem whare booting into recovery does not work.

Matthew



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Subject: Re: Problems trying to create bootable USB Drive

Hello,
Well I downloaded install disk creator and it does have a much better interface 
than disk maker X. When I used it, it appeared to have worked. However when I 
go into system preferences/startup disk the flash drive is not listed. No 
matter what I do I cannot get this to work. I have a new flash drive on order 
from amazon that comes tomorrow. Both of the ones I have are older ones. They 
are USB 2.0 and 16GB. The new one is USB 3.1 and is 32GB. Anything else I can 
try while waiting on the new flash drive? Also if I do a restart and hold 
option down is there a way for me to tell if it did use the USB drive to boot?

Thanks,
Greg Wocher


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>   I would suggest this app, Install Disk Creator insteaa of DiskMaker X. I 
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>> Hello all,
>> I have been trying for the last several days to create a bootable USB drive 
>> so I can do a clean install on my mac. I am using a 2015 MacBook air that I 
>> bought in 2016. It is running the latest version of Catalina. I am using a 
>> program called Disk Maker X to create the USB drive. I have used two 
>> different flash drives I own. After completing the process, neither flash 
>> drives are recognized as start up disks. I am not sure what I am doing 
>> wrong. Anyone have any advice on what I can try so I can get a bootable USB 
>> drive?
>> Thanks,
>> Greg Wocher
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RE: downloading Mac OS Mojave

[matthew dyer]

Hi all,

While we are on the subject, I have a mac mini from 2018 and I need to get into 
the recovery partition to enable booting from external drives, but I am finding 
that using cmd+R is not working for some reason.  Anyone else having  issues 
with this?  I do not have a motor connected nore do I have one to connect if 
that matter.  If I do the cmd+R at boot, it just goes strate to the standered 
hd mac os partition.  Any ideas on this one.  I am using mac os 10.15.1.  
Thanks.

Matthew



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 3:23 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Interesting,

I’m using cmd r not cmd option r so it’s getting Yosemite from some where.

Either way it’s bloody slow downloading and I’ll run with it now and see what 
happens.

Cheers.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 9:16 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hi,

If it is trying to install Yosemite, then it is most likely using an Internet 
Recovery option instead of the local recovery partition.  I did state the 
commands incorrectly in my last post, it should be cmd-option-r for Internet 
recovery.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 25, 2019, at 13:12, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Ann,

Well it turns out I’ve solved the problem and well it’s simply a timing issue.

 I used the cmd r option again and just gave it more time.

Then got voiceover up and running.

Note this is a 2015 13inch mac book pro with custom specs


I had Mojave running on it before I wiped it last week,

However when doing cmd r it turns out it’s trying to now install Yosemite hence 
the speed of the installation over internet seems to be a bit slower than 
average

Thanks for the ideas though,
They are appreciated.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 2:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hello Simon,

If you have an iPhone, you might try Seeing AI to read the screen to see what’s 
happening.
Cheers,

Anne





On 25 Nov 2019, at 07:58, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Ann,

Great to know it’s happening to others,

But I’m not getting voiceover speaking either so either it’s taking a long time 
to start up or something more is happening,

But until I get vo running I’m kind of stuck as to where I am in the start up

Thanks though I’ll keep giving it a try.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 6:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: downloading Mac OS Mojave

Hello Simon,

My husband had a similar problem last Friday. He had to try a couple of times 
before Cmd-r would work. After the language chooser screen, if it asks for the 
network password, you should be good to go.
Cheers,

Anne






On 25 Nov 2019, at 03:46, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Morning world,

I’ve just wiped a mac book pro I have
Which  had Mojave installed on to it,

  I completely wiped it and now when trying to do a command plus r to install 
from the net
I’m getting all counts of nothingness,

I’ve left it 5 minutes before trying CMD plus f5  to start up vo and still get 
nothing.

I’ve got a number of Mojave installers but it would appear Apple have killed 
the certs on older installers as these of mine give a corruption message when I 
try to run them.

I’m not wanting to install Catalina as the machine is being used as a server 
and my server version is for Mojave so I need to install that before updating.

Anyone got an installer I can grab a copy of or other ideas on how to get this 
thing setup?

Cheers.

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CCC backups give an error during an auto backup.

[matthew dyer]

Hi all,

I am using CCC (carbon copy cloner) and have  a scedualed backup which takes 
place dayly.  Lastnight I had to do it manually since the auto backup 
compleated with errors.  Any one using this program have any ideas on how to 
get around this.  

On another note, I noticed on my Mac mini 2018  will not boot into recovery.  I 
need to do this to enable external drive boot.  When I use cmd+R to get into 
recovery, the system just boots back into the main system.  An I doing 
something wrong?  

Thanks.

Matthew


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Re: Clean install of Catalina with Boot Camp?

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Not in my case.  The bootcamp partition. Was untoucheded in my system.  Thanks.

Matthew



> On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:09 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Matthew,
> Does Catalina recognize the boot camp partition since it wasn’t created with 
> Catalina?
> I thought that erasing the Mac HD, would also erase the windows partition.
> 
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>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 4:05 PM, matthew dyer  
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> I just did this on my iMac from, 2013 a few days ago and if you hav  a 
>> bootable usb installer you should be good to go.  Just make sure that you 
>> select your Mac OS partition  and select erase from the toolbar and then do 
>> the install in the usual way.  HTH,
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 8:54 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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>>> Yes but I would be very very carefull doing it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> Dear List,
>>> Is there a way to do a Clean install of Catalina with Boot Camp without 
>>> deleting the Windows partition?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rob
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