Re: Accessible VPN

[Lorie McCloud]

I use tunnelbear. it’s paid but it’s easy to install and works reliabley.

> On Mar 21, 2023, at 5:46 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> What VPN service do people on the list use on iOS and mac computers, paid or 
> unpaid?  I’d appreciate your comments.
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Accessible VPN

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I use Nord Vpn which is quite accessible but  expensive though.
/A

> 21 mars 2023 kl. 11:46 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> :
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> Hi,
> 
> What VPN service do people on the list use on iOS and mac computers, paid or 
> unpaid?  I’d appreciate your comments.
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> Andrew
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Re: Accessible VPN

['Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries]

On 21/3/23 06:46, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:

What VPN service do people on the list use on iOS and mac computers, paid or 
unpaid?  I’d appreciate your comments.


WireGuard to my own server. It's working reliably on Mac OS, but on iOS 
the entire Internet connection fails when I activate the VPN. The VPN is 
configured only to route traffic that goes to the server's address; 
everything else is supposed to be unaffected.


Searching the Web indicates that other people have been having problems 
as well. It used to work, so I suspect it's an issue that started with 
an iOS update - possibly iOS 16.


It also runs reliably under Linux and even Windows. Only iOS is 
problematic currently.


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Accessible VPN

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

What VPN service do people on the list use on iOS and mac computers, paid or 
unpaid?  I’d appreciate your comments.

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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[joseph hudson]

Dave, he's not welcome in my inbox if you wanna know why I will talk with you 
privately.

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:09 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Kliph,
> And to you as well, being a moderator yourself, take your gripes to Joseph 
> off line, please.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer
> 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 8:34 PM, Kliph  > wrote:
> 
> I know its true, because I was that member.
> And I have been in bits, so I know that to be a fact also, everyone is in 
> titled to there opinion, and that’s mine, don’t care if you like it, but 
> there is no better teacher than experience.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 9:36 PM, joseph hudson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Absolutely not true about me. Don't spread information that you're not for 
>> sure about anymore in the bits group is not power-hungry. Either. I've 
>> talked to one of the moderators of that group. Or one of the members. I 
>> forget what she is. But I will not disclose our name here
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Kliph >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Its only 99 bucks a year, and you get 4 months free. I have already 
>>> apologized to the list mods, but my 1st reason for posting this was because 
>>> I have been using it on all my apple devices for over 3 years, and wanted 
>>> to let people know it is 100 percent accessible.  Most group mods are not 
>>> power hungry, or like to baby sit like the ACB bits list, or groups that 
>>> Joseph run.  He kicks people off for posting free resources that are apple 
>>> products, because either he didn’t post it, or its not his service.  Lame, 
>>> and bits and his groups wonder why people leave?
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:11 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi.
 I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going 
 to charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think 
 there are cheaper options.
 
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens,
> Certified assistive technology specialist
> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
 
 
 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
> /A
> 
>> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph > >:
>> 
>> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for 
>> those who use the referral link.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing 
>>> stop? I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
 >>> > wrote:
 
 Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on 
 Mac, iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link 
 below, we both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a 
 total of 4 months free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to 
 get promotion.
 https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
  
 
 
 This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
 
>>> 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[joseph hudson]

Dave, not griping. Just sticking up for my own reputation. And what else was 
mentioned here. Sorry that you feel like we're griping.

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:08 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Joseph,
> 
> You moderators need to take your gripes off list. 
> 
> Dave Carlson
>  Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker
> 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:36 PM, joseph hudson  > wrote:
> 
> Absolutely not true about me. Don't spread information that you're not for 
> sure about anymore in the bits group is not power-hungry. Either. I've talked 
> to one of the moderators of that group. Or one of the members. I forget what 
> she is. But I will not disclose our name here
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Kliph > > wrote:
>> 
>> Its only 99 bucks a year, and you get 4 months free. I have already 
>> apologized to the list mods, but my 1st reason for posting this was because 
>> I have been using it on all my apple devices for over 3 years, and wanted to 
>> let people know it is 100 percent accessible.  Most group mods are not power 
>> hungry, or like to baby sit like the ACB bits list, or groups that Joseph 
>> run.  He kicks people off for posting free resources that are apple 
>> products, because either he didn’t post it, or its not his service.  Lame, 
>> and bits and his groups wonder why people leave?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:11 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going 
>>> to charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there 
>>> are cheaper options.
>>> 
 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens,
 Certified assistive technology specialist
 Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
 /A
 
> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph  >:
> 
> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
> who use the referral link.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing 
>> stop? I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
>>> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 
>>> months free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get 
>>> promotion.
>>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Dave Carlson]

Kliph,
And to you as well, being a moderator yourself, take your gripes to Joseph off 
line, please.

Dave Carlson
Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer

On Feb 27, 2022, at 8:34 PM, Kliph  wrote:

I know its true, because I was that member.
And I have been in bits, so I know that to be a fact also, everyone is in 
titled to there opinion, and that’s mine, don’t care if you like it, but there 
is no better teacher than experience.


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 9:36 PM, joseph hudson  > wrote:
> 
> Absolutely not true about me. Don't spread information that you're not for 
> sure about anymore in the bits group is not power-hungry. Either. I've talked 
> to one of the moderators of that group. Or one of the members. I forget what 
> she is. But I will not disclose our name here
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Kliph > > wrote:
>> 
>> Its only 99 bucks a year, and you get 4 months free. I have already 
>> apologized to the list mods, but my 1st reason for posting this was because 
>> I have been using it on all my apple devices for over 3 years, and wanted to 
>> let people know it is 100 percent accessible.  Most group mods are not power 
>> hungry, or like to baby sit like the ACB bits list, or groups that Joseph 
>> run.  He kicks people off for posting free resources that are apple 
>> products, because either he didn’t post it, or its not his service.  Lame, 
>> and bits and his groups wonder why people leave?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:11 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going 
>>> to charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there 
>>> are cheaper options.
>>> 
 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens,
 Certified assistive technology specialist
 Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
 /A
 
> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph  >:
> 
> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
> who use the referral link.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing 
>> stop? I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
>>> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 
>>> months free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get 
>>> promotion.
>>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Dave Carlson]

Joseph,

You moderators need to take your gripes off list. 

Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Woodworker

On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:36 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:

Absolutely not true about me. Don't spread information that you're not for sure 
about anymore in the bits group is not power-hungry. Either. I've talked to one 
of the moderators of that group. Or one of the members. I forget what she is. 
But I will not disclose our name here

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Kliph  > wrote:
> 
> Its only 99 bucks a year, and you get 4 months free. I have already 
> apologized to the list mods, but my 1st reason for posting this was because I 
> have been using it on all my apple devices for over 3 years, and wanted to 
> let people know it is 100 percent accessible.  Most group mods are not power 
> hungry, or like to baby sit like the ACB bits list, or groups that Joseph 
> run.  He kicks people off for posting free resources that are apple products, 
> because either he didn’t post it, or its not his service.  Lame, and bits and 
> his groups wonder why people leave?
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:11 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going 
>> to charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there 
>> are cheaper options.
>> 
>>> God bless.
>>> Matthew Dierckens,
>>> Certified assistive technology specialist
>>> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
>>> /A
>>> 
 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph >>> >:
 
 Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
 who use the referral link.
 
 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson  > wrote:
> 
> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? 
> I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
>> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 
>> months free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get 
>> promotion.
>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>> 
> 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Kliph]

I know its true, because I was that member.
And I have been in bits, so I know that to be a fact also, everyone is in 
titled to there opinion, and that’s mine, don’t care if you like it, but there 
is no better teacher than experience.


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 9:36 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Absolutely not true about me. Don't spread information that you're not for 
> sure about anymore in the bits group is not power-hungry. Either. I've talked 
> to one of the moderators of that group. Or one of the members. I forget what 
> she is. But I will not disclose our name here
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Kliph > > wrote:
>> 
>> Its only 99 bucks a year, and you get 4 months free. I have already 
>> apologized to the list mods, but my 1st reason for posting this was because 
>> I have been using it on all my apple devices for over 3 years, and wanted to 
>> let people know it is 100 percent accessible.  Most group mods are not power 
>> hungry, or like to baby sit like the ACB bits list, or groups that Joseph 
>> run.  He kicks people off for posting free resources that are apple 
>> products, because either he didn’t post it, or its not his service.  Lame, 
>> and bits and his groups wonder why people leave?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:11 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going 
>>> to charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there 
>>> are cheaper options.
>>> 
 God bless.
 Matthew Dierckens,
 Certified assistive technology specialist
 Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
 /A
 
> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph  >:
> 
> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
> who use the referral link.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing 
>> stop? I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
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>>> promotion.
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[joseph hudson]

Absolutely not true about me. Don't spread information that you're not for sure 
about anymore in the bits group is not power-hungry. Either. I've talked to one 
of the moderators of that group. Or one of the members. I forget what she is. 
But I will not disclose our name here

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Kliph  wrote:
> 
> Its only 99 bucks a year, and you get 4 months free. I have already 
> apologized to the list mods, but my 1st reason for posting this was because I 
> have been using it on all my apple devices for over 3 years, and wanted to 
> let people know it is 100 percent accessible.  Most group mods are not power 
> hungry, or like to baby sit like the ACB bits list, or groups that Joseph 
> run.  He kicks people off for posting free resources that are apple products, 
> because either he didn’t post it, or its not his service.  Lame, and bits and 
> his groups wonder why people leave?
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:11 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going 
>> to charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there 
>> are cheaper options.
>> 
>>> God bless.
>>> Matthew Dierckens,
>>> Certified assistive technology specialist
>>> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
>>> /A
>>> 
 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph >>> >:
 
 Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
 who use the referral link.
 
 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson  > wrote:
> 
> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? 
> I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
>> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 
>> months free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get 
>> promotion.
>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>> 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Kliph]

Its only 99 bucks a year, and you get 4 months free. I have already apologized 
to the list mods, but my 1st reason for posting this was because I have been 
using it on all my apple devices for over 3 years, and wanted to let people 
know it is 100 percent accessible.  Most group mods are not power hungry, or 
like to baby sit like the ACB bits list, or groups that Joseph run.  He kicks 
people off for posting free resources that are apple products, because either 
he didn’t post it, or its not his service.  Lame, and bits and his groups 
wonder why people leave?


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 3:11 PM, 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going to 
> charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there are 
> cheaper options.
> 
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens,
>> Certified assistive technology specialist
>> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph >> >:
>>> 
>>> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
>>> who use the referral link.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson >>> > wrote:
 
 I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? 
 I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>  > wrote:
> 
> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months 
> free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>  
> 
> 
> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
> 
 
 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Kliph]

Its only 99 a year, when discount is applied.  And I just renewed with 12 
months only costing me 99


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 4:21 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going to 
> charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there are 
> cheaper options.
> 
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens,
>> Certified assistive technology specialist
>> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph >> >:
>>> 
>>> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
>>> who use the referral link.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson >>> > wrote:
 
 I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? 
 I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>  > wrote:
> 
> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months 
> free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>  
> 
> 
> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
> 
 
 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi.
I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going to 
charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there are 
cheaper options.

> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens,
> Certified assistive technology specialist
> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer



> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
> /A
> 
>> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph > >:
>> 
>> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
>> who use the referral link.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
>>> don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
 >>> > wrote:
 
 Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
 iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
 both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months 
 free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
 https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
  
 
 
 This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Nord Vpn is less pricey.
I use that but I can’t remember how much it was.
/A

> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 22:11 skrev 'Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi.
> I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going to 
> charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there are 
> cheaper options.
> 
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens,
>> Certified assistive technology specialist
>> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph >> >:
>>> 
>>> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
>>> who use the referral link.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson >>> > wrote:
 
 I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? 
 I don’t want promotional emails on this list.
 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>  > wrote:
> 
> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
> both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months 
> free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>  
> 
> 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

['Matthew Dierckens' via MacVisionaries]

Hi.
I looked at this link as I am in the market for a good VPN. They are going to 
charge you $207 a year. Yes you get 4 months free, however I think there are 
cheaper options.

> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens,
> Certified assistive technology specialist
> Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainer



> On Feb 27, 2022, at 15:22, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
> /A
> 
>> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph > >:
>> 
>> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
>> who use the referral link.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
>>> don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>>> 
 On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
 >>> > wrote:
 
 Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
 iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we 
 both get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months 
 free.  Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
 https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
  
 
 
 This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well, there are others vin’s that are accessible too.
/A

> 27 feb. 2022 kl. 19:05 skrev Kliph :
> 
> Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those who 
> use the referral link.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
>> don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we both 
>>> get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months free.  
>>> Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
>>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

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Yeah this definitely wouldn't of been allowed on my list. But there are so many 
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> On Feb 27, 2022, at 1:48 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> This  announcement is completely self-serving in addition to being an 
> inappropriate  promotion.
> The whole point of this announcement is so that Kliph can get free VPN 
> service. Anyone who doesn't see right through this, is not only vision 
> impaired, but clueless as well. Can't imagine this is allowed by the group 
> owners/moderator.
> 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:05, Kliph  wrote:
> 
>  Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those 
> who use the referral link.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson > > wrote:
>> 
>> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
>> don’t want promotional emails on this list.
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we both 
>>> get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months free.  
>>> Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
>>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Brad Snyder]

This  announcement is completely self-serving in addition to being an 
inappropriate  promotion.
The whole point of this announcement is so that Kliph can get free VPN service. 
Anyone who doesn't see right through this, is not only vision impaired, but 
clueless as well. Can't imagine this is allowed by the group owners/moderator.


- Brad -

On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:05, Kliph  wrote:

 Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those who 
use the referral link.


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
> don’t want promotional emails on this list.
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we both 
>> get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months free.  
>> Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>> 
>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>> 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Dave Carlson]

Kliph,
I think you’re treading on thin ice. You are going to benefit by any of us 
using that link you sent along. So that is a solicitation.

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On Feb 27, 2022, at 10:05 AM, Kliph  wrote:

Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those who 
use the referral link.


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson  > wrote:
> 
> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
> don’t want promotional emails on this list.
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we both 
>> get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months free.  
>> Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
>> 
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Kliph]

Its not a promotion, its a accessible app that offers free time for those who 
use the referral link.


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 11:58 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
> don’t want promotional emails on this list.
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
>> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we both 
>> get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months free.  
>> Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
>> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
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>> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
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Re: Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[alia robinson]

I think this is highly inappropriate. where does this kind of thing stop? I 
don’t want promotional emails on this list.

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Kliph via groups.io  
>  > wrote:
> 
> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we both 
> get 30 free days, and you as a new customer, get a total of 4 months free.  
> Let’s help each  other out.  Use this link to get promotion.
> https://www.expressrefer.com/refer-a-friend/30-days-free/?referrer_id=86044900_campaign=bonus_notification_referee_12_plus_4_campaign=referrals_medium=email_source=customer_email
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> 
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Accessible VPN for all devices, plus 30 days free

[Kliph]

> Ok, I have been using Express VPN for almost 3 years.  It works on Mac, 
> iPhone, iPad, and even windows.  If you use my referral link below, we both 
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> This VPN is 100 percent accessible on all devices!
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Re: accessible vpn

[Brad Snyder]

 this, because, when the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> app is 
>>>>> running, I can access it from the Menu Extras area, by pressing VO + M 
>>>>> twice.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 20:17, Lorie McCloud >>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> it created an alias probably on the desktop that shows up among my 
>>>>> volumes. I moved the app to my apps folder and made some progress but now 
>>>>> it presents a popover that I can't do anything with. I wonder if 
>>>>> anything's changed with the installer since you installed yours. I don't 
>>>>> know what to do with this.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Brad Snyder >>>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any 
>>>>>> other installer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud >>>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting 
>>>>>> the message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting 
>>>>>> into the apps folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder >>>>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I use encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> VPN.
>>>>>>> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a 
>>>>>>> year for unlimited access on all my devices.
>>>>>>> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud >>>>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an 
>>>>>>> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for 
>>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>> Lorie
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Re: accessible vpn

[Lorie McCloud]

gt;>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 20:17, Lorie McCloud >>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> it created an alias probably on the desktop that shows up among my 
>>>>> volumes. I moved the app to my apps folder and made some progress but now 
>>>>> it presents a popover that I can't do anything with. I wonder if 
>>>>> anything's changed with the installer since you installed yours. I don't 
>>>>> know what to do with this.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Brad Snyder >>>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any 
>>>>>> other installer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud >>>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting 
>>>>>> the message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting 
>>>>>> into the apps folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder >>>>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I use encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> VPN.
>>>>>>> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a 
>>>>>>> year for unlimited access on all my devices.
>>>>>>> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud >>>>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an 
>>>>>>> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for 
>>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>>> 
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Re: accessible vpn

[Brad Snyder]

t;>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Brad Snyder >>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any 
>>>>> other installer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud >>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting the 
>>>>> message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting into the 
>>>>> apps folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder >>>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I use encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> VPN.
>>>>>> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a 
>>>>>> year for unlimited access on all my devices.
>>>>>> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud >>>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an 
>>>>>> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for 
>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Visionaries list.
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>>>>>> at:  mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn 
>>>>>> - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>
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Re: accessible vpn

[Lorie McCloud]

after I go to menu extras and select encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> with 
vo-space, I don't get a menu. I can't navigate anywhere. I hear that sound you 
hear when a popover comes up. it's apparently not completely installed although 
it comes up in menu extras. I don't think it's actually running. how would I 
test that to make sure?

> On Feb 8, 2021, at 3:28 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> What do you mean by it is open when you try to delete it?
> The interface closes when you CMD + Tab, away from it.  It will return when 
> you go back to MenuExtras, and select it again.
> If you want to exit Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> while it is running, do 
> the following:
> 1.  Go to MenuExtras, and select Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> to open the 
> interface
> 2.  Navigate to Settings, and arrow down to Quit Encrypt.me 
> <http://encrypt.me/>.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 8, 2021, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> that works if I want to get out of there and do something else but it's still 
> open when I try to delete it.
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, now I know what you are referring to.
>> When you go to the MenuExtras area, and select the Encrypt.me 
>> <http://encrypt.me/> item, it opens an interface.
>> To close the interface, just do CMD + Tab, and select Finder or any running 
>> application, and this will close the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> 
>> interface.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 14:40, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> it's not in there but it's in the menu extras. I tried interacting with it 
>> and it said the popover was empty. it said to press escape to get out of it 
>> but that didn't work. I'd really like to delete it so I can start over but I 
>> can't because it's open. wondering if there's another way to get to it. 
>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 1:31 AM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I really have no idea what the pop-over you are experiencing could be.
>>> Try pressing VO + F1 twice, to open the Application Chooser, and look for a 
>>> system dialogue in the list of open applications.
>>> This may be the pop-over.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 01:16, Lorie McCloud >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did that with the version I downloaded. as I said, it gave me some kind 
>>> of inaccessible popover. now I can't delete it because it's open so I don't 
>>> know how to get it out of there and start over. I did download the version 
>>> you posted though. 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Brad Snyder >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> when you open the DMG, you are presented with 2 items, one is an alias and 
>>>> the other is the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> application.
>>>> You want to copy the application to your Applications folder.
>>>> Once the application has been copied to your applications folder, you can 
>>>> put the alias on your desktop if you want.
>>>> I never do this, because, when the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> app is 
>>>> running, I can access it from the Menu Extras area, by pressing VO + M 
>>>> twice.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 20:17, Lorie McCloud >>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> it created an alias probably on the desktop that shows up among my 
>>>> volumes. I moved the app to my apps folder and made some progress but now 
>>>> it presents a popover that I can't do anything with. I wonder if 
>>>> anything's changed with the installer since you installed yours. I don't 
>>>> know what to do with this.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Brad Snyder >>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any 
>>>>> other installer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud >>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>

Re: accessible vpn

[Brad Snyder]

What do you mean by it is open when you try to delete it?
The interface closes when you CMD + Tab, away from it.  It will return when you 
go back to MenuExtras, and select it again.
If you want to exit Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> while it is running, do the 
following:
1.  Go to MenuExtras, and select Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> to open the 
interface
2.  Navigate to Settings, and arrow down to Quit Encrypt.me 
<http://encrypt.me/>.

- Brad -


On Feb 8, 2021, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

that works if I want to get out of there and do something else but it's still 
open when I try to delete it.

> On Feb 8, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> Yes, now I know what you are referring to.
> When you go to the MenuExtras area, and select the Encrypt.me 
> <http://encrypt.me/> item, it opens an interface.
> To close the interface, just do CMD + Tab, and select Finder or any running 
> application, and this will close the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> 
> interface.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 8, 2021, at 14:40, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> it's not in there but it's in the menu extras. I tried interacting with it 
> and it said the popover was empty. it said to press escape to get out of it 
> but that didn't work. I'd really like to delete it so I can start over but I 
> can't because it's open. wondering if there's another way to get to it. 
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 1:31 AM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I really have no idea what the pop-over you are experiencing could be.
>> Try pressing VO + F1 twice, to open the Application Chooser, and look for a 
>> system dialogue in the list of open applications.
>> This may be the pop-over.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 01:16, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I did that with the version I downloaded. as I said, it gave me some kind of 
>> inaccessible popover. now I can't delete it because it's open so I don't 
>> know how to get it out of there and start over. I did download the version 
>> you posted though. 
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> when you open the DMG, you are presented with 2 items, one is an alias and 
>>> the other is the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> application.
>>> You want to copy the application to your Applications folder.
>>> Once the application has been copied to your applications folder, you can 
>>> put the alias on your desktop if you want.
>>> I never do this, because, when the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> app is 
>>> running, I can access it from the Menu Extras area, by pressing VO + M 
>>> twice.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 20:17, Lorie McCloud >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> it created an alias probably on the desktop that shows up among my volumes. 
>>> I moved the app to my apps folder and made some progress but now it 
>>> presents a popover that I can't do anything with. I wonder if anything's 
>>> changed with the installer since you installed yours. I don't know what to 
>>> do with this.
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Brad Snyder >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any other 
>>>> installer.
>>>> 
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud >>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting the 
>>>> message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting into the 
>>>> apps folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder >>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> VPN.
>>>>> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a 
>>>>> year for unlimited access on all my devices.
>>>>> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>> 

Re: accessible vpn

[Lorie McCloud]

that works if I want to get out of there and do something else but it's still 
open when I try to delete it.

> On Feb 8, 2021, at 3:09 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Yes, now I know what you are referring to.
> When you go to the MenuExtras area, and select the Encrypt.me 
> <http://encrypt.me/> item, it opens an interface.
> To close the interface, just do CMD + Tab, and select Finder or any running 
> application, and this will close the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> 
> interface.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 8, 2021, at 14:40, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> it's not in there but it's in the menu extras. I tried interacting with it 
> and it said the popover was empty. it said to press escape to get out of it 
> but that didn't work. I'd really like to delete it so I can start over but I 
> can't because it's open. wondering if there's another way to get to it. 
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 1:31 AM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I really have no idea what the pop-over you are experiencing could be.
>> Try pressing VO + F1 twice, to open the Application Chooser, and look for a 
>> system dialogue in the list of open applications.
>> This may be the pop-over.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 01:16, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I did that with the version I downloaded. as I said, it gave me some kind of 
>> inaccessible popover. now I can't delete it because it's open so I don't 
>> know how to get it out of there and start over. I did download the version 
>> you posted though. 
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> when you open the DMG, you are presented with 2 items, one is an alias and 
>>> the other is the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> application.
>>> You want to copy the application to your Applications folder.
>>> Once the application has been copied to your applications folder, you can 
>>> put the alias on your desktop if you want.
>>> I never do this, because, when the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> app is 
>>> running, I can access it from the Menu Extras area, by pressing VO + M 
>>> twice.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 20:17, Lorie McCloud >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> it created an alias probably on the desktop that shows up among my volumes. 
>>> I moved the app to my apps folder and made some progress but now it 
>>> presents a popover that I can't do anything with. I wonder if anything's 
>>> changed with the installer since you installed yours. I don't know what to 
>>> do with this.
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Brad Snyder >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any other 
>>>> installer.
>>>> 
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud >>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting the 
>>>> message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting into the 
>>>> apps folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder >>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> VPN.
>>>>> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a 
>>>>> year for unlimited access on all my devices.
>>>>> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud >>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an 
>>>>> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for 
>>>>> phones.
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> The following information is important fo

Re: accessible vpn

[Brad Snyder]

Yes, now I know what you are referring to.
When you go to the MenuExtras area, and select the Encrypt.me 
<http://encrypt.me/> item, it opens an interface.
To close the interface, just do CMD + Tab, and select Finder or any running 
application, and this will close the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> interface.

- Brad -


On Feb 8, 2021, at 14:40, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

it's not in there but it's in the menu extras. I tried interacting with it and 
it said the popover was empty. it said to press escape to get out of it but 
that didn't work. I'd really like to delete it so I can start over but I can't 
because it's open. wondering if there's another way to get to it. 

> On Feb 8, 2021, at 1:31 AM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> I really have no idea what the pop-over you are experiencing could be.
> Try pressing VO + F1 twice, to open the Application Chooser, and look for a 
> system dialogue in the list of open applications.
> This may be the pop-over.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 8, 2021, at 01:16, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I did that with the version I downloaded. as I said, it gave me some kind of 
> inaccessible popover. now I can't delete it because it's open so I don't know 
> how to get it out of there and start over. I did download the version you 
> posted though. 
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> when you open the DMG, you are presented with 2 items, one is an alias and 
>> the other is the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> application.
>> You want to copy the application to your Applications folder.
>> Once the application has been copied to your applications folder, you can 
>> put the alias on your desktop if you want.
>> I never do this, because, when the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> app is 
>> running, I can access it from the Menu Extras area, by pressing VO + M twice.
>> 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 20:17, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> it created an alias probably on the desktop that shows up among my volumes. 
>> I moved the app to my apps folder and made some progress but now it presents 
>> a popover that I can't do anything with. I wonder if anything's changed with 
>> the installer since you installed yours. I don't know what to do with this.
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any other 
>>> installer.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting the 
>>> message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting into the 
>>> apps folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I use encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> VPN.
>>>> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a year 
>>>> for unlimited access on all my devices.
>>>> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
>>>> 
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud >>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an 
>>>> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>> 
>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>> 
>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>>>> at:  mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
>>>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>
>>>&

Re: accessible vpn

[Lorie McCloud]

it's not in there but it's in the menu extras. I tried interacting with it and 
it said the popover was empty. it said to press escape to get out of it but 
that didn't work. I'd really like to delete it so I can start over but I can't 
because it's open. wondering if there's another way to get to it. 

> On Feb 8, 2021, at 1:31 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I really have no idea what the pop-over you are experiencing could be.
> Try pressing VO + F1 twice, to open the Application Chooser, and look for a 
> system dialogue in the list of open applications.
> This may be the pop-over.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 8, 2021, at 01:16, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I did that with the version I downloaded. as I said, it gave me some kind of 
> inaccessible popover. now I can't delete it because it's open so I don't know 
> how to get it out of there and start over. I did download the version you 
> posted though. 
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> when you open the DMG, you are presented with 2 items, one is an alias and 
>> the other is the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> application.
>> You want to copy the application to your Applications folder.
>> Once the application has been copied to your applications folder, you can 
>> put the alias on your desktop if you want.
>> I never do this, because, when the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> app is 
>> running, I can access it from the Menu Extras area, by pressing VO + M twice.
>> 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 20:17, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> it created an alias probably on the desktop that shows up among my volumes. 
>> I moved the app to my apps folder and made some progress but now it presents 
>> a popover that I can't do anything with. I wonder if anything's changed with 
>> the installer since you installed yours. I don't know what to do with this.
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any other 
>>> installer.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting the 
>>> message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting into the 
>>> apps folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I use encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> VPN.
>>>> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a year 
>>>> for unlimited access on all my devices.
>>>> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
>>>> 
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud >>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an 
>>>> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
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Re: accessible vpn

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I use Nord Vpn and that is also very accessible.
A bit more expensive though I think.
I can’t remember now because I just starting using it.
/A

> 8 feb. 2021 kl. 00:33 skrev jeff `greene :
> 
> Hi Lorie,
> I use ExpressVPN and its very accessible on both mac and pc. I believe
> the company worked with the NFB to get their software up to snuff. It
> costs like $90 a year but they do have discount codes.
> Hope this helps Jeff
> 
> 
> On 2/7/21, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an
>> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: accessible vpn

[Brad Snyder]

I really have no idea what the pop-over you are experiencing could be.
Try pressing VO + F1 twice, to open the Application Chooser, and look for a 
system dialogue in the list of open applications.
This may be the pop-over.

- Brad -


On Feb 8, 2021, at 01:16, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I did that with the version I downloaded. as I said, it gave me some kind of 
inaccessible popover. now I can't delete it because it's open so I don't know 
how to get it out of there and start over. I did download the version you 
posted though. 

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> when you open the DMG, you are presented with 2 items, one is an alias and 
> the other is the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> application.
> You want to copy the application to your Applications folder.
> Once the application has been copied to your applications folder, you can put 
> the alias on your desktop if you want.
> I never do this, because, when the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> app is 
> running, I can access it from the Menu Extras area, by pressing VO + M twice.
> 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 7, 2021, at 20:17, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> it created an alias probably on the desktop that shows up among my volumes. I 
> moved the app to my apps folder and made some progress but now it presents a 
> popover that I can't do anything with. I wonder if anything's changed with 
> the installer since you installed yours. I don't know what to do with this.
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any other 
>> installer.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting the 
>> message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting into the 
>> apps folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> VPN.
>>> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a year 
>>> for unlimited access on all my devices.
>>> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an 
>>> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
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Re: accessible vpn

[Lorie McCloud]

I did that with the version I downloaded. as I said, it gave me some kind of 
inaccessible popover. now I can't delete it because it's open so I don't know 
how to get it out of there and start over. I did download the version you 
posted though. 

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> when you open the DMG, you are presented with 2 items, one is an alias and 
> the other is the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> application.
> You want to copy the application to your Applications folder.
> Once the application has been copied to your applications folder, you can put 
> the alias on your desktop if you want.
> I never do this, because, when the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> app is 
> running, I can access it from the Menu Extras area, by pressing VO + M twice.
> 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 7, 2021, at 20:17, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> it created an alias probably on the desktop that shows up among my volumes. I 
> moved the app to my apps folder and made some progress but now it presents a 
> popover that I can't do anything with. I wonder if anything's changed with 
> the installer since you installed yours. I don't know what to do with this.
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any other 
>> installer.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting the 
>> message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting into the 
>> apps folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> VPN.
>>> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a year 
>>> for unlimited access on all my devices.
>>> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an 
>>> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
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Re: accessible vpn

[Karen Lewellen]

Jason,
Others might have shared this, but your link produces a 404 page not found 
error.

Karen



On Sun, 7 Feb 2021, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:



On 7/2/21 6:22 pm, Lorie McCloud wrote:

 I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an
 accessible vpn for my Mac?
At least for a VPN that uses IPSec, it's already built into Mac OS. Apple's 
documentation is at


https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/set-up-a-vpn-connection-on-mac-mchlp2963/mac

You'll need to obtain server details from your employer, your home router, or 
whoever is providing you with the VPN service.


Other kinds of VPN will generally require their own software, with 
accessibility that probably varies depending on the software involved.



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Re: accessible vpn

[Brad Snyder]

when you open the DMG, you are presented with 2 items, one is an alias and the 
other is the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> application.
You want to copy the application to your Applications folder.
Once the application has been copied to your applications folder, you can put 
the alias on your desktop if you want.
I never do this, because, when the Encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> app is 
running, I can access it from the Menu Extras area, by pressing VO + M twice.


- Brad -


On Feb 7, 2021, at 20:17, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

it created an alias probably on the desktop that shows up among my volumes. I 
moved the app to my apps folder and made some progress but now it presents a 
popover that I can't do anything with. I wonder if anything's changed with the 
installer since you installed yours. I don't know what to do with this.

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any other 
> installer.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting the 
> message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting into the 
> apps folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I use encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> VPN.
>> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a year 
>> for unlimited access on all my devices.
>> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an 
>> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
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Re: accessible vpn

[Brad Snyder]

Sorry, it is not an installer.  It is a DMG.
See the below Dropbox link for the DMG.
It will be available for 48 hours.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8069mvjedtafnrf/EncryptMe-4.3.0.dmg?dl=0

- Brad -


On Feb 7, 2021, at 20:12, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

that's what I did but it kept giving me that message about not being able to 
run on a read-only volume. what's that abouat?

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any other 
> installer.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting the 
> message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting into the 
> apps folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I use encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> VPN.
>> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a year 
>> for unlimited access on all my devices.
>> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an 
>> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
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Re: accessible vpn

[Lorie McCloud]

it created an alias probably on the desktop that shows up among my volumes. I 
moved the app to my apps folder and made some progress but now it presents a 
popover that I can't do anything with. I wonder if anything's changed with the 
installer since you installed yours. I don't know what to do with this.

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any other 
> installer.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting the 
> message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting into the 
> apps folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I use encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> VPN.
>> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a year 
>> for unlimited access on all my devices.
>> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
>> 
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>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an 
>> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: accessible vpn

[Lorie McCloud]

that's what I did but it kept giving me that message about not being able to 
run on a read-only volume. what's that abouat?

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any other 
> installer.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting the 
> message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting into the 
> apps folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> I use encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> VPN.
>> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a year 
>> for unlimited access on all my devices.
>> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an 
>> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: accessible vpn

[Brad Snyder]

Download the installer to your Downloads folder, and run it like any other 
installer.

- Brad -


On Feb 7, 2021, at 19:46, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting the 
message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting into the apps 
folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?

thanks.
Lorie

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> I use encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/> VPN.
> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a year 
> for unlimited access on all my devices.
> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud  <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an 
> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.
> 
> thanks.
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Re: accessible vpn

[Lorie McCloud]

I'm trying to install encrypt.me <http://encrypt.me/>. I keep getting the 
message that it can't run from a read-only disk. I tried putting into the apps 
folder but the message was repeated. what do I need to do?

thanks.
Lorie

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a year 
> for unlimited access on all my devices.
> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an 
> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: accessible vpn

[Lorie McCloud]

based in Dallas? I'm in the metroplex too. looks like they have a 2 week trial 
period which is great because I want to see if this addresses a problem I've 
been having.

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a year 
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> I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: accessible vpn

[Eric Oyen]

Try private internet access. I use them on my Mac mini with very little trouble.

-Eric


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Re: accessible vpn

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

On 7/2/21 6:22 pm, Lorie McCloud wrote:

I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an accessible 
vpn for my Mac?
At least for a VPN that uses IPSec, it's already built into Mac OS. 
Apple's documentation is at


https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/set-up-a-vpn-connection-on-mac-mchlp2963/mac

You'll need to obtain server details from your employer, your home 
router, or whoever is providing you with the VPN service.


Other kinds of VPN will generally require their own software, with 
accessibility that probably varies depending on the software involved.



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Re: accessible vpn

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I use encrypt.me VPN.
Their apps are completely accessible on both Mac and iOS. I pay $99 a year for 
unlimited access on all my devices.
I also liked that the company is based in Dallas.

- Brad -

On Feb 7, 2021, at 17:22, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an accessible 
vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: accessible vpn

[jeff `greene]

Hi Lorie,
I use ExpressVPN and its very accessible on both mac and pc. I believe
the company worked with the NFB to get their software up to snuff. It
costs like $90 a year but they do have discount codes.
Hope this helps Jeff


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> I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an
> accessible vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.
>
> thanks.
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accessible vpn

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I know this has been discussed before but can anybody recommend an accessible 
vpn for my Mac? I have one on my phone but it's only for phones.

thanks.
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RE: accessible vpn

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah interesting,

Guess it’s a way of making things more difficult to get to.

I noticed that my fritz box also has gre and another protocol starting with e 
that I’ve only ever seen in high end systems


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Angus MacKinnon
Sent: Friday, 27 October 2017 8:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible vpn

Simon

I think using UDP is for security and switching between different TCIPs. Scot 
has more Knowledge about this stuff.

Angus MacKinnon


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RE: accessible vpn

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

My DNS is handled by an internet based provider,
The problem is that fritzbox have updated their firmware for my routerr and 
it’s crap for accessibility
I’m wishing I hadn’t updated now as the forwarding interface is bloody 
difficult to setup,
Unlike the previous version which was bloody simple.

Still not giving up as I want this working sooner rather than later

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 27 October 2017 3:13 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible vpn

Simon,

If your connection to the Internet is fine with the Mini Server, then the best 
thing to do would be to enable the DNS service on the Mini Server.  You can set 
up a forwarder to your other boxes within the DNS settings on the Mini as well. 
 This simply allows the DNS service on the Mini server to automatically point 
to other DNS servers if there isn't a reference in its database.  With the DNS 
begin active on the Mini, and the VPN using the MIni's DNS first, most DNS 
lookups are handled quick and easy.  You'll still need to make sure the 
appropriate ports are open for the VPN service to do it's thing, but this may 
help.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 26, 2017, at 01:29, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Angus,

Thanks for this,
Giving it a try now,

Just questioning though and may be scott can put something forward on this also,
Why are the ports for VPN all UDP
Why is VPN not using TCP

Will see how this new VPN port forwarding in my fritzbox works if at all.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angus MacKinnon
Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2017 12:45 PM
To: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: accessible vpn

How to setup your own VPN with macOS Server
Monday, May 29, 2017 at 8:00 am EDT

Want a VPN but don't want to trust a third-party service? Roll your own with 
macOS Server!
If you've decided you need a virtual private network 
(VPN) but you don't want to pay for a 
third-party VPN service, 
then macOS Server can be a great alternative. It's built on the macOS you 
already know and love and lets you quickly and easily get your very own VPN up 
and running.
Set up macOS Server
If you haven't already done so, download and install macOS 
Server and 
optionally enable remote 
administration
 for easier setup.
Find your router's internet facing IP Address
Before we begin with the actual setup of the VPN service, you'll need to know 
your internet "co-ordinates" — your router's IP address.
It's quite easy to determine your current IP address simply by Googling: "What 
is my IP Address". Most home users have what's called a dynamic IP 
address<http://whatismyipaddress.com/dynamic-static>, though. That means that 
your router's IP address may change every so often.
<https://go.nordvpn.net/aff_c?offer_id=15_id=940_id=164>
Advertisement
If you use a dynamic IP address to setup your VPN service, there is no 
guarantee that you'll have that IP address will still be yours in the future, 
and the remote connection will fail.
To work around this, there are a number of dynamic domain name 
services<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_DNS> you can purchase. That way, 
you'll get an alias known as a "host name" that won't change, even if your IP 
address does.
Many ISP's also offer what's known as static IP address. These are typically 
used for business accounts but, depending on your ISP, can be available for an 
addition fee.
Once you have your static IP address or have a host name for your dynamic IP 
address, you can go on and configure your VPN service in macOS Server.
Configure the macOS Server VPN service

  1.  Launch the Server app from your applications.
  2.  Log into your macOS Server.
  3.  Select VPN under the Services listings.
<https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge/public/field/image/2017/05/macos-server-vpn-1.jpeg?itok=V6TMFLXC>

  1.  Under VPN Host Name, enter either your static IP address or dynamic host 
name depending the method you used when finding out your IP address above.
  2.  Click Edit Permissions and select the users you want to be able to 
connect to your VPN.
<https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge/public/field/image/2017/05/macos-server-vpn-2.jpeg?itok=Ke-kKfZL>

  1.  Create a new Shared Secret. The more complicated and random the better.
  2.  Optionally click Client Addresses if you want to change the number of VPN 
clients that can simultaneously connect to your VPN server.
  3.  Optionally click DNS Settings if you want to change the default DNS 
server your VPN clients will use when connected to your VPN server.

Re: accessible vpn

[Angus MacKinnon]

Simon

I think using UDP is for security and switching between different TCIPs. Scot 
has more Knowledge about this stuff.

Angus MacKinnon

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Re: accessible vpn

[Tim Kilburn]

Simon,

If your connection to the Internet is fine with the Mini Server, then the best 
thing to do would be to enable the DNS service on the Mini Server.  You can set 
up a forwarder to your other boxes within the DNS settings on the Mini as well. 
 This simply allows the DNS service on the Mini server to automatically point 
to other DNS servers if there isn't a reference in its database.  With the DNS 
begin active on the Mini, and the VPN using the MIni's DNS first, most DNS 
lookups are handled quick and easy.  You'll still need to make sure the 
appropriate ports are open for the VPN service to do it's thing, but this may 
help.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 26, 2017, at 01:29, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Hi Angus,
 
Thanks for this,
Giving it a try now,
 
Just questioning though and may be scott can put something forward on this also,
Why are the ports for VPN all UDP
Why is VPN not using TCP
 
Will see how this new VPN port forwarding in my fritzbox works if at all.
 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Angus MacKinnon
Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2017 12:45 PM
To: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: accessible vpn
 
How to setup your own VPN with macOS Server
Monday, May 29, 2017 at 8:00 am EDT

Want a VPN but don't want to trust a third-party service? Roll your own with 
macOS Server!
If you've decided you need a virtual private network (VPN) 
 but you don't want to pay for a third-party 
VPN service , then macOS 
Server can be a great alternative. It's built on the macOS you already know and 
love and lets you quickly and easily get your very own VPN up and running.
Set up macOS Server

If you haven't already done so, download and install macOS Server 
 and optionally 
enable remote administration 
 
for easier setup.
Find your router's internet facing IP Address

Before we begin with the actual setup of the VPN service, you'll need to know 
your internet "co-ordinates" — your router's IP address.
It's quite easy to determine your current IP address simply by Googling: "What 
is my IP Address". Most home users have what's called a dynamic IP address 
<http://whatismyipaddress.com/dynamic-static>, though. That means that your 
router's IP address may change every so often.
 <https://go.nordvpn.net/aff_c?offer_id=15_id=940_id=164>
Advertisement
If you use a dynamic IP address to setup your VPN service, there is no 
guarantee that you'll have that IP address will still be yours in the future, 
and the remote connection will fail.
To work around this, there are a number of dynamic domain name services 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_DNS> you can purchase. That way, you'll 
get an alias known as a "host name" that won't change, even if your IP address 
does.
Many ISP's also offer what's known as static IP address. These are typically 
used for business accounts but, depending on your ISP, can be available for an 
addition fee.
Once you have your static IP address or have a host name for your dynamic IP 
address, you can go on and configure your VPN service in macOS Server.
Configure the macOS Server VPN service

Launch the Server app from your applications.
Log into your macOS Server.
Select VPN under the Services listings.
 
<https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge/public/field/image/2017/05/macos-server-vpn-1.jpeg?itok=V6TMFLXC>
Under VPN Host Name, enter either your static IP address or dynamic host name 
depending the method you used when finding out your IP address above.
Click Edit Permissions and select the users you want to be able to connect to 
your VPN.
 
<https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge/public/field/image/2017/05/macos-server-vpn-2.jpeg?itok=Ke-kKfZL>
Create a new Shared Secret. The more complicated and random the better.
Optionally click Client Addresses if you want to change the number of VPN 
clients that can simultaneously connect to your VPN server.
Optionally click DNS Settings if you want to change the default DNS server your 
VPN clients will use when connected to your VPN server.
Optionally click Routes if you need special networking routes you need to 
configure.
Optionally click Save Profile if you wish to create a configuration file so 
that clients can simply load your server's connection information for easier 
client setup.
Select your macOS Server computer name.
Select the Access tab.
 
<https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge/public/field/image/2017/05/macos-server-vpn-3.jpeg?itok=j2Hbe1nc>
Click the Add button (looks like +) and select VPN.
Select Allow Connections From only some users.
Enter the users you wish to have VPN access.
Click OK.

RE: accessible vpn

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

I can’t get it to see my dns,
Mind you I’ve just updated the firmware on my fritzbox and it’s new system is 
rather crap for usability let alone port forwarding,

So it’s possible my mini server isn’t seeing passed the router.

I’m going to have to have another look at it as I’ve not touched it in a month 
or so.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2017 4:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible vpn

Simon,

I run VPN service successfully on MacOS Server.  What error or errors are you 
having that are causing you difficulty?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 22, 2017, at 18:26, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Thanks for this, might help me sort out the problems I’m having with my vpn 
setup on my mac server


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angus MacKinnon
Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2017 12:45 PM
To: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: accessible vpn

How to setup your own VPN with macOS Server
Monday, May 29, 2017 at 8:00 am EDT

Want a VPN but don't want to trust a third-party service? Roll your own with 
macOS Server!
If you've decided you need a virtual private network 
(VPN) but you don't want to pay for a 
third-party VPN service, 
then macOS Server can be a great alternative. It's built on the macOS you 
already know and love and lets you quickly and easily get your very own VPN up 
and running.
Set up macOS Server
If you haven't already done so, download and install macOS 
Server and 
optionally enable remote 
administration
 for easier setup.
Find your router's internet facing IP Address
Before we begin with the actual setup of the VPN service, you'll need to know 
your internet "co-ordinates" — your router's IP address.
It's quite easy to determine your current IP address simply by Googling: "What 
is my IP Address". Most home users have what's called a dynamic IP 
address<http://whatismyipaddress.com/dynamic-static>, though. That means that 
your router's IP address may change every so often.
<https://go.nordvpn.net/aff_c?offer_id=15_id=940_id=164>
Advertisement
If you use a dynamic IP address to setup your VPN service, there is no 
guarantee that you'll have that IP address will still be yours in the future, 
and the remote connection will fail.
To work around this, there are a number of dynamic domain name 
services<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_DNS> you can purchase. That way, 
you'll get an alias known as a "host name" that won't change, even if your IP 
address does.
Many ISP's also offer what's known as static IP address. These are typically 
used for business accounts but, depending on your ISP, can be available for an 
addition fee.
Once you have your static IP address or have a host name for your dynamic IP 
address, you can go on and configure your VPN service in macOS Server.
Configure the macOS Server VPN service

  1.  Launch the Server app from your applications.
  2.  Log into your macOS Server.
  3.  Select VPN under the Services listings.
<https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge/public/field/image/2017/05/macos-server-vpn-1.jpeg?itok=V6TMFLXC>

  1.  Under VPN Host Name, enter either your static IP address or dynamic host 
name depending the method you used when finding out your IP address above.
  2.  Click Edit Permissions and select the users you want to be able to 
connect to your VPN.
<https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge/public/field/image/2017/05/macos-server-vpn-2.jpeg?itok=Ke-kKfZL>

  1.  Create a new Shared Secret. The more complicated and random the better.
  2.  Optionally click Client Addresses if you want to change the number of VPN 
clients that can simultaneously connect to your VPN server.
  3.  Optionally click DNS Settings if you want to change the default DNS 
server your VPN clients will use when connected to your VPN server.
  4.  Optionally click Routes if you need special networking routes you need to 
configure.
  5.  Optionally click Save Profile if you wish to create a configuration file 
so that clients can simply load your server's connection information for easier 
client setup.
  6.  Select your macOS Server computer name.
  7.  Select the Access tab.
<https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge/public/field/image/2017/05/macos-server-vpn-3.jpeg?itok=j2Hbe1nc>

  1.  Click the Add button (looks like +) and select VPN.
  2.  Select Allow Connections From only some users.
  3.  Enter the users you wish to have VPN access.
  4.  Click OK.
  5.  Select VPN under the Services listings.
  6.  Toggle the ON/OFF switch to

RE: accessible VPN

[jeff `greene]

Hi Matthew,
Thank you for the recommendation of encript.me. I just signed up for
their two week trial. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks Jeff

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Re: accessible vpn

[Tim Kilburn]

Simon,

I run VPN service successfully on MacOS Server.  What error or errors are you 
having that are causing you difficulty?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 22, 2017, at 18:26, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Thanks for this, might help me sort out the problems I’m having with my vpn 
setup on my mac server
 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Angus MacKinnon
Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2017 12:45 PM
To: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: accessible vpn
 
How to setup your own VPN with macOS Server
Monday, May 29, 2017 at 8:00 am EDT

Want a VPN but don't want to trust a third-party service? Roll your own with 
macOS Server!
If you've decided you need a virtual private network (VPN) 
 but you don't want to pay for a third-party 
VPN service , then macOS 
Server can be a great alternative. It's built on the macOS you already know and 
love and lets you quickly and easily get your very own VPN up and running.
Set up macOS Server

If you haven't already done so, download and install macOS Server 
 and optionally 
enable remote administration 
 
for easier setup.
Find your router's internet facing IP Address

Before we begin with the actual setup of the VPN service, you'll need to know 
your internet "co-ordinates" — your router's IP address.
It's quite easy to determine your current IP address simply by Googling: "What 
is my IP Address". Most home users have what's called a dynamic IP address 
<http://whatismyipaddress.com/dynamic-static>, though. That means that your 
router's IP address may change every so often.
 <https://go.nordvpn.net/aff_c?offer_id=15_id=940_id=164>
Advertisement
If you use a dynamic IP address to setup your VPN service, there is no 
guarantee that you'll have that IP address will still be yours in the future, 
and the remote connection will fail.
To work around this, there are a number of dynamic domain name services 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_DNS> you can purchase. That way, you'll 
get an alias known as a "host name" that won't change, even if your IP address 
does.
Many ISP's also offer what's known as static IP address. These are typically 
used for business accounts but, depending on your ISP, can be available for an 
addition fee.
Once you have your static IP address or have a host name for your dynamic IP 
address, you can go on and configure your VPN service in macOS Server.
Configure the macOS Server VPN service

Launch the Server app from your applications.
Log into your macOS Server.
Select VPN under the Services listings.
 
<https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge/public/field/image/2017/05/macos-server-vpn-1.jpeg?itok=V6TMFLXC>
Under VPN Host Name, enter either your static IP address or dynamic host name 
depending the method you used when finding out your IP address above.
Click Edit Permissions and select the users you want to be able to connect to 
your VPN.
 
<https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge/public/field/image/2017/05/macos-server-vpn-2.jpeg?itok=Ke-kKfZL>
Create a new Shared Secret. The more complicated and random the better.
Optionally click Client Addresses if you want to change the number of VPN 
clients that can simultaneously connect to your VPN server.
Optionally click DNS Settings if you want to change the default DNS server your 
VPN clients will use when connected to your VPN server.
Optionally click Routes if you need special networking routes you need to 
configure.
Optionally click Save Profile if you wish to create a configuration file so 
that clients can simply load your server's connection information for easier 
client setup.
Select your macOS Server computer name.
Select the Access tab.
 
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Click the Add button (looks like +) and select VPN.
Select Allow Connections From only some users.
Enter the users you wish to have VPN access.
Click OK.
Select VPN under the Services listings.
Toggle the ON/OFF switch to On.
 
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If you're on a Apple-centric network with an Airport Base Station, you'll be 
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connections to your macOS Server VPN service.
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your router to allow for VPN traffic to travel through your router to your 
macOS Server. Here's how!
Allow VPN traffic through your router to macOS Server

Depending on who manufactured your router, y

RE: accessible vpn

[Simon Fogarty]

Using mac os server would cost nothing if you have it.


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Subject: Re: accessible vpn

I use a service called “hide my ass”. HMA.  It is very accessible, and price 
was very fair.  I paid for a whole year for just over 50 bucks.  It even shows 
up in your status menu.  YOu can connect and disconnect instantly.
> On Oct 20, 2017, at 10:59 AM, jeff `greene <greenebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
> I think this has been asked before, but here goes! Does anybody know 
> of a good VPN that is accessible on the mac and windows?
> I recently signed up with Nord VPN because it was an editor's choice 
> on pc magazine. While the service was great, the price fair, and 
> support pretty good, the software was crap! I finally got it set on 
> the mac to connect on boot-up, and sometimes it actually did! I 
> couldn't tell what server I was connected to though. On windows it was 
> worse. I could connect using the wizzard but no other way, and the 
> settings were totally unaccessible.
> I've just got my money back from Nord and am looking for something better!
> Thanks Jeff
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Re: accessible vpn

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I am not sure yet.
THe help was unavaillable so i could not get much of help there.
BUt i guess you can do a google search on this topic.
/A

> 22 okt. 2017 kl. 01:44 skrev Angus MacKinnon :
> 
> How to setup your own VPN with macOS Server
> 
> Monday, May 29, 2017 at 8:00 am EDT
> 
> 
> Want a VPN but don't want to trust a third-party service? Roll your own with 
> macOS Server!
> 
> If you've decided you need a virtual private network (VPN) 
>  but you don't want to pay for a 
> third-party VPN service 
> , then macOS Server can 
> be a great alternative. It's built on the macOS you already know and love and 
> lets you quickly and easily get your very own VPN up and running.
> 
> Set up macOS Server
> 
> If you haven't already done so, download and install macOS Server 
>  and 
> optionally enable remote administration 
> 
>  for easier setup.
> 
> Find your router's internet facing IP Address
> 
> Before we begin with the actual setup of the VPN service, you'll need to know 
> your internet "co-ordinates" — your router's IP address.
> 
> It's quite easy to determine your current IP address simply by Googling: 
> "What is my IP Address". Most home users have what's called a dynamic IP 
> address , though. That means 
> that your router's IP address may change every so often.
> 
> <20160616034751-NordVPN_970x250_1.gif> 
> 
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> 
> If you use a dynamic IP address to setup your VPN service, there is no 
> guarantee that you'll have that IP address will still be yours in the future, 
> and the remote connection will fail.
> 
> To work around this, there are a number of dynamic domain name services 
>  you can purchase. That way, 
> you'll get an alias known as a "host name" that won't change, even if your IP 
> address does.
> 
> Many ISP's also offer what's known as static IP address. These are typically 
> used for business accounts but, depending on your ISP, can be available for 
> an addition fee.
> 
> Once you have your static IP address or have a host name for your dynamic IP 
> address, you can go on and configure your VPN service in macOS Server.
> 
> Configure the macOS Server VPN service
> 
> Launch the Server app from your applications.
> Log into your macOS Server.
> Select VPN under the Services listings.
> 
>  
> 
> Under VPN Host Name, enter either your static IP address or dynamic host name 
> depending the method you used when finding out your IP address above.
> Click Edit Permissions and select the users you want to be able to connect to 
> your VPN.
> 
>  
> 
> Create a new Shared Secret. The more complicated and random the better.
> Optionally click Client Addresses if you want to change the number of VPN 
> clients that can simultaneously connect to your VPN server.
> Optionally click DNS Settings if you want to change the default DNS server 
> your VPN clients will use when connected to your VPN server.
> Optionally click Routes if you need special networking routes you need to 
> configure.
> Optionally click Save Profile if you wish to create a configuration file so 
> that clients can simply load your server's connection information for easier 
> client setup.
> Select your macOS Server computer name.
> Select the Access tab.
> 
>  
> 
> Click the Add button (looks like +) and select VPN.
> Select Allow Connections From only some users.
> Enter the users you wish to have VPN access.
> Click OK.
> Select VPN under the Services listings.
> Toggle the ON/OFF switch to On.
>  
> 
> If you're on a Apple-centric network with an Airport Base Station, you'll be 
> prompted to automatically setup your Airport Base Station to allow for 
> connections to your macOS Server VPN service.
> 
> If you don't have an Apple Airport Base Station, you'll have to manually 
> setup your router to allow for VPN traffic to travel through your router to 
> your macOS Server. Here's how!
> 
> Allow VPN traffic through your router to macOS Server
> 
> Depending on who manufactured your router, you'll have to consult the 
> documentation from the manufacturer to be able to allow VPN traffic to your 
> internally networked macOS Server running the VPN service. The ports you need 
> to have forwarded to your macOS Server are UDP 500, UDP 1701 and UDP 4500. 
> Here is what it would like like on an Airport Base Station if you were to 
> manually 

Re: accessible vpn

[Kliphton Miller]

I use a service called “hide my ass”. HMA.  It is very accessible, and price 
was very fair.  I paid for a whole year for just over 50 bucks.  It even shows 
up in your status menu.  YOu can connect and disconnect instantly.
> On Oct 20, 2017, at 10:59 AM, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
> I think this has been asked before, but here goes! Does anybody know
> of a good VPN that is accessible on the mac and windows?
> I recently signed up with Nord VPN because it was an editor's choice
> on pc magazine. While the service was great, the price fair, and
> support pretty good, the software was crap! I finally got it set on
> the mac to connect on boot-up, and sometimes it actually did! I
> couldn't tell what server I was connected to though. On windows it was
> worse. I could connect using the wizzard but no other way, and the
> settings were totally unaccessible.
> I've just got my money back from Nord and am looking for something better!
> Thanks Jeff
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Re: accessible vpn

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
There are tons of them out there.
I have mac os server here and am thinking of building my own VPN with that.
/A

> 20 okt. 2017 kl. 16:59 skrev jeff `greene :
> 
> Hi List,
> I think this has been asked before, but here goes! Does anybody know
> of a good VPN that is accessible on the mac and windows?
> I recently signed up with Nord VPN because it was an editor's choice
> on pc magazine. While the service was great, the price fair, and
> support pretty good, the software was crap! I finally got it set on
> the mac to connect on boot-up, and sometimes it actually did! I
> couldn't tell what server I was connected to though. On windows it was
> worse. I could connect using the wizzard but no other way, and the
> settings were totally unaccessible.
> I've just got my money back from Nord and am looking for something better!
> Thanks Jeff
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Re: accessible vpn

[jeff `greene]

Hi Matthew,
Thank you for the information! I've never heard of that particular vpn service.
Best, Jeff


On 10/20/17, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> I use a service call encrypt.me .
> Its easily usable with iOS, MacOS and Windows.
> You can switch between countries with a press of a button, and the price is
> fair for the unlimited data plan.
> If you need any help with it let me know.
>
> God bless.
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>> On Oct 20, 2017, at 10:59, jeff `greene  wrote:
>>
>> Hi List,
>> I think this has been asked before, but here goes! Does anybody know
>> of a good VPN that is accessible on the mac and windows?
>> I recently signed up with Nord VPN because it was an editor's choice
>> on pc magazine. While the service was great, the price fair, and
>> support pretty good, the software was crap! I finally got it set on
>> the mac to connect on boot-up, and sometimes it actually did! I
>> couldn't tell what server I was connected to though. On windows it was
>> worse. I could connect using the wizard but no other way, and the
>> settings were totally unaccessible.
>> I've just got my money back from Nord and am looking for something
>> better!
>> Thanks Jeff
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Re: accessible vpn

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hi Jeff,
I use a service call encrypt.me .
Its easily usable with iOS, MacOS and Windows.
You can switch between countries with a press of a button, and the price is 
fair for the unlimited data plan.
If you need any help with it let me know.

God bless.
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JAWS for windows Certified - 2016
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> On Oct 20, 2017, at 10:59, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
> I think this has been asked before, but here goes! Does anybody know
> of a good VPN that is accessible on the mac and windows?
> I recently signed up with Nord VPN because it was an editor's choice
> on pc magazine. While the service was great, the price fair, and
> support pretty good, the software was crap! I finally got it set on
> the mac to connect on boot-up, and sometimes it actually did! I
> couldn't tell what server I was connected to though. On windows it was
> worse. I could connect using the wizard but no other way, and the
> settings were totally unaccessible.
> I've just got my money back from Nord and am looking for something better!
> Thanks Jeff
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accessible vpn

[jeff `greene]

Hi List,
I think this has been asked before, but here goes! Does anybody know
of a good VPN that is accessible on the mac and windows?
I recently signed up with Nord VPN because it was an editor's choice
on pc magazine. While the service was great, the price fair, and
support pretty good, the software was crap! I finally got it set on
the mac to connect on boot-up, and sometimes it actually did! I
couldn't tell what server I was connected to though. On windows it was
worse. I could connect using the wizzard but no other way, and the
settings were totally unaccessible.
I've just got my money back from Nord and am looking for something better!
Thanks Jeff

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Re: accessible VPN

[Scott Granados]

A great way to go is to set up a server for like $5 per month and install open 
VPN.  There are totally accessible clients for Mac, Windows, IOS and Android 
and you can have as many clients as you want when you run your own server with 
out a per seat price.  Open VPN software is also totally open source.

> On Jun 24, 2017, at 2:17 AM, masood B <mbamy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> hello. I would like to know if there is any accessible VPN for Windows and 
> mac? thanks.
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RE: accessible VPN

[David & his pack of dogs]

I use Private internet access.  It tells you where to put in the user name and 
password.  Once it is put in, you don’t have to enter it again.  Also, it gives 
you a list of several countries where you can appear to be in.  Such as, if you 
live in the U S, you can appear as if you are in the U K.  Both U K and the U S 
have different areas.  In the U S you could be in New York but, look like you 
are in California.  There are a lot more countries you could appear to be in, I 
just gave some exapmles.  The main thing is, it is accessible for the blind and 
it works. When last I checked it costs $59 for 2 years.   

 

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On Behalf Of masood B
Sent: June 23, 2017 11:18 PM
To: MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: accessible VPN

 

hello. I would like to know if there is any accessible VPN for Windows and mac? 
thanks.

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accessible VPN

[masood B]

hello. I would like to know if there is any accessible VPN for Windows and 
mac? thanks.

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