Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-08 Thread Kaare Dehard
serious? I would much rather buy it! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: All the new features in Lion i think

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-08 Thread Kaare Dehard
rather buy it! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: All the new features in Lion i think the size

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-08 Thread Ricardo Walker
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: All the new features in Lion i think the size of the download will be 4gb. On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi all, I think it's

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-08 Thread Doug Lawlor
much rather buy it! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: All the new features in Lion i think the size

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
I wonder how such a backup DVD might work for people with multiple Mac machines, right now I have the iMac, Air and Mini, each of the recovery DVD's has different components, some give me Garage Band free others don't, the two desktops have printer drivers in the setup options, the Air does

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Ricardo Walker
Really? So what features will be found in voiceover on Lion and IOS 5? Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:49 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Ricardo, They do mention VO on both the Lion and iOS 5 sites, as a matter

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Ricardo, Let's see, international Braille tables, a mechanism for app-specific settings on OS X, custom element labeling for IOS 5, and probably many other minor things. Along with the already-advertised new voices for download. No offense intended, but couldn't you check that for yourself?

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Donna Goodin
Yeah, there's a fair amount about VO in the list of new features that Seren forwarded yesterday. Donna On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:49 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Ricardo, They do mention VO on both the Lion and iOS 5 sites, as a matter of fact. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Ricardo

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Nickus de Vos
Hi all, I think it's going to be a problem for a lot of people that the lion isn't availible on disc, one reason would be as you mentioned hard drive chrashes etc and the other is that you would have to download it and I saw something about a 4 GB download. Everybody doesn't have fast uncapped

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread erik burggraaf
They were right at the top under accessibility. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 10:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: I wish they would at least put out some notes about

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Brandon Misch
i think the size of the download will be 4gb. On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi all, I think it's going to be a problem for a lot of people that the lion isn't availible on disc, one reason would be as you mentioned hard drive chrashes etc and the other is that you would

RE: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Chantel Cuddemi
Dude, are you serious? I would much rather buy it! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: All the new features

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Tammy
-Mark Gilland Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: All the new features in Lion We know july, but do we specifically know yet the exact date it'll be available for non developers as myself? Chris. - Original Message - From: Søren Jensen

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Brandon Misch
, June 07, 2011 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: All the new features in Lion i think the size of the download will be 4gb. On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi all, I think it's going to be a problem for a lot of people that the lion isn't availible

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Shen
Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: All the new features in Lion i think the size of the download will be 4gb. On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi all, I think it's going to be a problem for a lot of people

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Ricardo Walker
Ah! Sorry about that. lol. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 7, 2011, at 6:44 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Yeah, there's a fair amount about VO in the list of new features that Seren forwarded yesterday. Donna On Jun 7,

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Caitlyn Furness
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: All the new features in Lion i think the size of the download will be 4gb. On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi all, I think it's going to be a problem for a lot of people that the lion isn't availible on disc, one reason would be as you mentioned hard

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Ricardo Walker
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: All the new features in Lion i think the size of the download will be 4gb. On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:10 AM

RE: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Chantel Cuddemi
Hmmm, well, still, I'd rather buy Lion. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:51 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: All the new features in Lion i read

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Jon Cohn
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: All the new features in Lion i read somewhere about it being 4gb. On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Dude, are you serious? I would much rather buy it! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread Donna Goodin
There was a lot of info on that page. :) Donna On Jun 7, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Ah! Sorry about that. lol. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 7, 2011, at 6:44 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Yeah,

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-07 Thread erik burggraaf
@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: All the new features in Lion i think the size of the download will be 4gb. On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Nickus de Vos

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread erik burggraaf
Aghch! from the looks of it they didn't fix braille input. That is appalling if true. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-06-06, at 4:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. You can

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Eric, I'd email accessibil...@apple.com about this, but I personally don't know why you get the impression they didn't fix Braille input. They might have done so an not noted it on that page, which seemed primarily devoted to new features rather than bug fixes. More over, the iOS Braille

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Mike Arrigo
There are some good new features. What concerns me though is that it will only be available through the app store, there seems to be no way to get an install DVD. I know it creates a recovery partition on your drive and you can use that to reinstall, but what happens if your hard drive crashes

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Colin M
Hi there! It's been suggested that we might be able to make our own back up dvd! We will see! Colin On 7 Jun 2011, at 01:18, Mike Arrigo wrote: There are some good new features. What concerns me though is that it will only be available through the app store, there seems to be no way to get an

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Ricardo Walker
Its not even worthing e-mailing them in my opinion. Apple won't talk about anything that wasn't already mentioned today. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Eric, I'd email

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Ricardo Walker
Whats the difference between an dvd and an external drive? They serve the same function. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:18 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: There are some good new features. What concerns me though is

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
We know july, but do we specifically know yet the exact date it'll be available for non developers as myself? Chris. - Original Message - From: Søren Jensen s...@coolfortheblind.dk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 4:23 PM Subject: All the new features

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Ricardo Walker
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 4:23 PM Subject: All the new features in Lion Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Ricardo, I agree, those items you listed definitely intrigue me. MOre over, I like the idea of iCloud in general. The way they describe it makes things seem so seamless and as if they'll just work. Remarkable stuff. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Is there

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Mary Otten
I am intrigued by the references to the gestures in Lion and wondering how all this will play out with trackpad commander and VO. With all the emphasis on Pages and the cloud, I wish they'd come out with a new version that fixed the problems noted by people on this list as it relates to voice

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Mary, Unless I miss my guess, a new version of Pages to integrate iCloud functionality will have to come out. Here's hoping they do fix some VoiceOver related issues as well. Personally, I've found Pages quite adequate for my word processing needs once I got used to its interface. Best,

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Brandon Misch
this all sounds great. good thing voiceover has some new features. On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: Hi. You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link: http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN:

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Mary Otten
I find myself having to look at tables quite a bit, and the work around involving numbers that Anne has talked about seems like a hassle. So I just keep using MS Word. Most people with whom I share documents still use that program. It and scanning are the two things I still need a pc for, and

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I think to do those gestures, you will need to turn trackpad commander off. They would surely conflict with the voiceover gestures. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I am

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Ricardo Walker
I wish they would at least put out some notes about voiceover when they put out the features list for the new OS. I don't expect Apple to devote time to Voiceover in the keynote of course but, I don't think it should be much trouble to mention new VO features on the site. JMO. Ricardo

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi, I have a mac mini, if I get lion on it, will I have to have a trackpad, or can I go without? Courtney On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:11 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Mary, Unless I miss my guess, a new version of Pages to integrate iCloud functionality will have to come out. Here's hoping they do

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Ricardo Walker
No, I'm pretty certain you can go on using your mac with just the keyboard. These multi gesture features they were talking about seemed to be more geared for the sighted user. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jun 6, 2011, at

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Ricardo, They do mention VO on both the Lion and iOS 5 sites, as a matter of fact. Best, Zack. On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: I wish they would at least put out some notes about voiceover when they put out the features list for the new OS. I don't expect Apple to devote

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Mike Arrigo
Actually, docuscan plus works on the mac quite well, assuming you have a scanner or camera that works with the mac On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I find myself having to look at tables quite a bit, and the work around involving numbers that Anne has talked about seems like a

Re: All the new features in Lion

2011-06-06 Thread Mike Arrigo
You don't need a track pad, you can continue to use the keyboard in the usual way. On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:58 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I have a mac mini, if I get lion on it, will I have to have a trackpad, or can I go without? Courtney On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:11 PM, Zachary Kline