Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-09 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
How do you do the dot calibration? Chris. - Original Message - From: "David Chittenden" <dchitten...@gmail.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 12:25 AM Subject: Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-09 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, so then, how do you do it? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com> To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 12:27 AM Subject: Re: Incredibly irritating pro

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-09 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Sorry for asking this question. But i never got braille input to work on an ios device. Even though Alex Hall did a great podcast on it. Is an iphone 5S maybe a bit to small for a guy like me. My fingers are very long. Piano style fingers. /A > On 09 Oct 2015, at 04:57, Jeffrey Shockley

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-09 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
--- Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com> To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 12:27 AM Subject: Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S Calibration is

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-09 Thread Alex Hall
quot;Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com> > To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 12:27 AM > Subject: Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S > > > Calibration is a good poi

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-09 Thread David Chittenden
>> wrote: >> >> OK, so then, how do you do it? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com> >> To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-09 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
happen, and Alex is correct. It's definitely less reliable. Chris. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S I have pretty good

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-09 Thread Alex Hall
I have pretty good-sized hands too, enough that I can use my thumb to hit F# on the low E string of a guitar while my other fingers remain on the bottom strings; enough that I can, at a stretch, hit an octave plus two keys on a piano (not that I can really play one). I've used an iPhone 5 for

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread David Chittenden
Hello, When you turn the iPhone away from you, have the home button to the right. VO will announce home button to the left. This is correct, but the home button actually is on the right. Now, Away mode is correct. Dots 1 2 and 3 are on the left side, dots 4 5 6 are on the right side. Note:

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
workin'. LOL! Chris. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S Hello, When yo

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread Blee Blat
I've been reading this thread and I'm trying this out but I have large hands and long fingers and a 5s and I'm not sure how to hold the phone to comfortably reach the dots. So it's clearly something you have to screw with for more than 30 seconds to get to work but I could see where it could

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread Alex Hall
Calibration is a good point, as it might help resolve the problems Chris is running into. Once you get it down, you likely won't need to do it; I did it a good amount last year when BSI was new, but I haven't done it at all in months. I'm on the 5, though, and that's my only input source, so

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread Alex Hall
Stupid question: are you sure you're in Away mode? In Table mode, things are reversed until you force Away mode by turning the screen toward you, then lay it flat again, which trips a lot of people up. I've never heard of Away mode being reversed, though. My only other thought is that you've

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread Devin Prater
may just not be for me. Oh well, at least I tried. I'll give >> it another go if you all have an idea, but otherwise, this ain't workin'. >> LOL! >> >> Chris. >> >>> ----- Original Message - >>> From: David Chittenden >>> To: macvisionaries@g

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread David Chittenden
ut otherwise, this ain't workin'. > LOL! > > Chris. > > - Original Message - > From: David Chittenden > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread David Chittenden
Hello, It took me a couple weeks to figure out braille screen input. I practiced every day. It is now my primary form of input on my iPhone and my iPad. I usually write in 6-dot braille on the iPhone 6+ and the iPhone 5S. I write on both phones equally. I also write in contracted braille using

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread Jeffrey Shockley
Hi, Thank you for explaining this. I was trying to explain what was going on to someone the other day, and we never did come to any real conclusion. We thought it was my phone being crazy. LOL. I was wondering why it wasn’t working right for me.. Guess this is why. :) Thanks again for your

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread Alex Hall
; Frankly, this is totally unacceptable. >>> >>> Braille input may just not be for me. Oh well, at least I tried. I'll >>> give it another go if you all have an idea, but otherwise, this ain't >>> workin'. LOL! >>> >>> Chris. >>>

Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I'm not using a braille display or input keyboard. This is specifically on the braille input rotor setting, which I'm referring to. When I reach an edit field, and I turn the rotor to braille input, I am using contracted braille, not 6 dot, by the way. I'm noticing that it's reversed, when

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread Alex Hall
m> >> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 10:37 PM >> Subject: Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S >> >> Hello, >> >> When you turn the iPhone away from you, have the home button to the right. >> VO will announce home button to the l

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S Hello, When you turn the iPhone away from you, have the home button to the right. VO will announce home button to the left. This is correct, but the home button actually is on the right. Now, Away mode is correct. Dots 1 2 and 3

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread David Chittenden
Hello, I forgot to mention: I almost always use away mode on the iPhone, and table-top mode on the iPad. I hold the phone between my thumbs on the side with the mute switch and the pinkys on the opposite side. Note: beware with the 6 and 6+ not to press against the power button with the pinky.

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread Blee Blat
Oh, ok, yes I was able to make it work similar to what you're describing. You are right that you do have to play with it a bit. I'll screw around with it until it works. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

2015-10-08 Thread Blee Blat
Yeah, it's just training fingers that takes a bit of time but I could see how you could get really fast input with that. I type more than I braille but touch typing doesn't really lend itself well to tiny devices. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups