Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-19 Thread Scott Granados 
The one thing I get repeatedly is the system log in messages.  I’m using a 
watch to unlock though so that could be why.

I’m not sure about the other issue you raise.  SSD drives just make things load 
faster, much faster so reading form the disk is much more efficient.  That’s 
the best way to think of it.

> On Oct 19, 2016, at 2:59 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   Something that occurred to me here is that Voiceover speaks elements its 
> still focused on until a new app or window is opened.
> 
>   In other words, say I boot up and wait a while, then open Finder. VO does 
> not immediately refocus quickly, it will speak what it is still focused on a 
> desktop item. Would this be improved on with an SSD?
> 
>   Now this may not be related as its new in Sierra. When I close Finder, VO 
> will speak the first item on the desktop 3 times. I have not seen this when 
> closing other apps.
> 
>   VO can be too verbose for me. Its set to medium. Low is too little. high is 
> too much.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/17/2016 11:36 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I have a TB drive running and it’s blazingly fast.
>> 
>> I wonder about the memory as well.  The Mac Pro can be upgraded considerably 
>> maybe that’s the product they want to move but you’d think they would give 
>> more memory options to the laptops.
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Its too bad Apple does not consider memory above 16 to be worthy. Well I 
>>> am putting a 1tb SSD drive on my Santa wish list.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/17/2016 11:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Hi E.T, I would highly recommend the SSD upgrade.  Will make a massive
 difference.
 
 On the memory side, I believe it was 2013 when the change took place.
 The Laptops are all built this way, I believe the IMac is still
 upgradable via a small door on the back.
 
> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:25 PM, E.T.  > wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> When did Apple switch to non removable memory and does this apply to
> all Mac models?
> 
> I have a mid 2012 which I upgraded to 16 but at the time did not
> know I could go higher.
> 
> At this point, if I do anything, it would be an SSD drive.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> On 10/16/2016 2:46 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Kevin, I’m with you and I wish you could take the MacBook pro up higher
>> as well.
>> 
>> When the memory was removable I was able to upgrade a 2011 model to 32
>> GB.  Would be nice to have 32 or 64 in the current line.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Chao >> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. I'm
>>> replacing this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. Janky
>>> performance with loud fan/excessive heat got old :(
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver
>>>  user. My Macbook Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13
>>>  inch mac at this time.
>>>  > On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott >> 
>>>  > wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  > Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014,
>>>  and yeah, they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
>>>  >
>>>  > Portia.
>>>  >> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:25 AM, christopher hallsworth
>>>  >> > wrote:
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Hello everyone.
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Well just thought to let you know that for Christmas I will be
>>>  treating myself to the new 11 inch Macbook Air with base
>>>  configuration: 4 GB RAM, 1.6 GHZ processor with turbo boost up to
>>>  over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB pcie-based flash storage. Since
>>>  I have an old, but very much usable, 13 inch Macbook Pro this
>>>  should suit me fine.
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
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Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-19 Thread E.T. 

Scott,
   Something that occurred to me here is that Voiceover speaks elements 
its still focused on until a new app or window is opened.


   In other words, say I boot up and wait a while, then open Finder. VO 
does not immediately refocus quickly, it will speak what it is still 
focused on a desktop item. Would this be improved on with an SSD?


   Now this may not be related as its new in Sierra. When I close 
Finder, VO will speak the first item on the desktop 3 times. I have not 
seen this when closing other apps.


   VO can be too verbose for me. Its set to medium. Low is too little. 
high is too much.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/17/2016 11:36 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

I have a TB drive running and it’s blazingly fast.

I wonder about the memory as well.  The Mac Pro can be upgraded considerably 
maybe that’s the product they want to move but you’d think they would give more 
memory options to the laptops.


On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  Its too bad Apple does not consider memory above 16 to be worthy. Well I am 
putting a 1tb SSD drive on my Santa wish list.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/17/2016 11:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi E.T, I would highly recommend the SSD upgrade.  Will make a massive
difference.

On the memory side, I believe it was 2013 when the change took place.
The Laptops are all built this way, I believe the IMac is still
upgradable via a small door on the back.


On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:25 PM, E.T. mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Scott,
 When did Apple switch to non removable memory and does this apply to
all Mac models?

 I have a mid 2012 which I upgraded to 16 but at the time did not
know I could go higher.

 At this point, if I do anything, it would be an SSD drive.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 10/16/2016 2:46 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Kevin, I’m with you and I wish you could take the MacBook pro up higher
as well.

When the memory was removable I was able to upgrade a 2011 model to 32
GB.  Would be nice to have 32 or 64 in the current line.



On Oct 16, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Chao mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. I'm
replacing this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. Janky
performance with loud fan/excessive heat got old :(

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth
mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:

  Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver
  user. My Macbook Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13
  inch mac at this time.
  > On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott mailto:portia.sc...@gmail.com>
  > wrote:
  >
  > Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014,
  and yeah, they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
  >
  > Portia.
  >> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:25 AM, christopher hallsworth
  mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
  >>
  >> Hello everyone.
  >>
  >> Well just thought to let you know that for Christmas I will be
  treating myself to the new 11 inch Macbook Air with base
  configuration: 4 GB RAM, 1.6 GHZ processor with turbo boost up to
  over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB pcie-based flash storage. Since
  I have an old, but very much usable, 13 inch Macbook Pro this
  should suit me fine.
  >>
  >>
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Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-18 Thread Scott Granados 
Memory limitations aside, I’m very very happy with my mid 2015 MacBook pro. It 
does very well with virtual environments and performs very well on just about 
everything I can throw at it.  Upgradable no but I could see it lasting and 
being usable for quite a while.

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 4:52 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I’m kind of thinking that I'll go the 2012 mac book pro and up the ram and hd 
> to an ssd and just put up with the 2.5 ghz processor,
> 
> Oh and the weight gain in the mbp 2012.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2016 7:37 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas
> 
> I have a TB drive running and it’s blazingly fast.  
> 
> I wonder about the memory as well.  The Mac Pro can be upgraded considerably 
> maybe that’s the product they want to move but you’d think they would give 
> more memory options to the laptops.
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  Its too bad Apple does not consider memory above 16 to be worthy. Well I am 
>> putting a 1tb SSD drive on my Santa wish list.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 10/17/2016 11:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Hi E.T, I would highly recommend the SSD upgrade.  Will make a 
>>> massive difference.
>>> 
>>> On the memory side, I believe it was 2013 when the change took place.
>>> The Laptops are all built this way, I believe the IMac is still 
>>> upgradable via a small door on the back.
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:25 PM, E.T. >>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Scott,
>>>> When did Apple switch to non removable memory and does this apply 
>>>> to all Mac models?
>>>> 
>>>> I have a mid 2012 which I upgraded to 16 but at the time did not 
>>>> know I could go higher.
>>>> 
>>>> At this point, if I do anything, it would be an SSD drive.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/16/2016 2:46 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>> Kevin, I’m with you and I wish you could take the MacBook pro up 
>>>>> higher as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When the memory was removable I was able to upgrade a 2011 model to 
>>>>> 32 GB.  Would be nice to have 32 or 64 in the current line.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Chao >>>>> <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com> <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. 
>>>>>> I'm replacing this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. 
>>>>>> Janky performance with loud fan/excessive heat got old :(
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com><mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver
>>>>>>  user. My Macbook Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13
>>>>>>  inch mac at this time.
>>>>>>> On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott >>>>> <mailto:portia.sc...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>  <mailto:portia.sc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014,
>>>>>>  and yeah, they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Portia.
>>>>>>>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:25 AM, christopher hallsworth
>>>>>>  >>>>> <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com><mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello everyone.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well just thought to let you know that for Christmas I will be
>>>>>>  treating myself to the new 11 inch Macbook Air with

RE: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-18 Thread Simon Fogarty 
I’m kind of thinking that I'll go the 2012 mac book pro and up the ram and hd 
to an ssd and just put up with the 2.5 ghz processor,

Oh and the weight gain in the mbp 2012.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2016 7:37 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

I have a TB drive running and it’s blazingly fast.  

I wonder about the memory as well.  The Mac Pro can be upgraded considerably 
maybe that’s the product they want to move but you’d think they would give more 
memory options to the laptops.

> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Its too bad Apple does not consider memory above 16 to be worthy. Well I am 
> putting a 1tb SSD drive on my Santa wish list.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/17/2016 11:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Hi E.T, I would highly recommend the SSD upgrade.  Will make a 
>> massive difference.
>> 
>> On the memory side, I believe it was 2013 when the change took place.
>> The Laptops are all built this way, I believe the IMac is still 
>> upgradable via a small door on the back.
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:25 PM, E.T. >> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>>  When did Apple switch to non removable memory and does this apply 
>>> to all Mac models?
>>> 
>>>  I have a mid 2012 which I upgraded to 16 but at the time did not 
>>> know I could go higher.
>>> 
>>>  At this point, if I do anything, it would be an SSD drive.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>> 
>>> On 10/16/2016 2:46 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>> Kevin, I’m with you and I wish you could take the MacBook pro up 
>>>> higher as well.
>>>> 
>>>> When the memory was removable I was able to upgrade a 2011 model to 
>>>> 32 GB.  Would be nice to have 32 or 64 in the current line.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Chao >>>> <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com> <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. 
>>>>> I'm replacing this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. 
>>>>> Janky performance with loud fan/excessive heat got old :(
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com><mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver
>>>>>   user. My Macbook Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13
>>>>>   inch mac at this time.
>>>>>   > On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott >>>> <mailto:portia.sc...@gmail.com>
>>>>>   <mailto:portia.sc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>   >
>>>>>   > Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014,
>>>>>   and yeah, they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
>>>>>   >
>>>>>   > Portia.
>>>>>   >> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:25 AM, christopher hallsworth
>>>>>   >>>> <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com><mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>   >>
>>>>>   >> Hello everyone.
>>>>>   >>
>>>>>   >> Well just thought to let you know that for Christmas I will be
>>>>>   treating myself to the new 11 inch Macbook Air with base
>>>>>   configuration: 4 GB RAM, 1.6 GHZ processor with turbo boost up to
>>>>>   over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB pcie-based flash storage. Since
>>>>>   I have an old, but very much usable, 13 inch Macbook Pro this
>>>>>   should suit me fine.
>>>>>   >>
>>>>>   >>
>>>>>   >> --
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>>>>>   Mac Visionaries list.
>>>>>   >>
>>>>>   >> If you have any questions or concerns about the

Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-17 Thread E.T. 

   It will be a while before I have a spare $249. :(

   Have wondered about this. Windows offers a defrag tool which I used 
in versions prior to 7. So macOS has no such facility? I reckon I can do 
it someday and use Carbon Copy Cloner.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/17/2016 7:36 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I have replaced a standard with an SSD and it makes a huge difference in 
performance as well as voiceover.  One important thing as well, remember as 
time passes on the mechanical hard drives the data becomes less and less 
contiguous.  This is why reformatting and restoring once in a while makes a 
difference.

SSD doesn’t do this either.



On Oct 17, 2016, at 5:32 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  Did you a standard hard drive with the SSD? I am more and more curious to 
know if a lot of the Voiceover chatter would go away because the Mac loads 
things faster.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/17/2016 11:36 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

I have a TB drive running and it’s blazingly fast.

I wonder about the memory as well.  The Mac Pro can be upgraded considerably 
maybe that’s the product they want to move but you’d think they would give more 
memory options to the laptops.


On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:

 Its too bad Apple does not consider memory above 16 to be worthy. Well I am 
putting a 1tb SSD drive on my Santa wish list.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/17/2016 11:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi E.T, I would highly recommend the SSD upgrade.  Will make a massive
difference.

On the memory side, I believe it was 2013 when the change took place.
The Laptops are all built this way, I believe the IMac is still
upgradable via a small door on the back.


On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:25 PM, E.T. mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Scott,
When did Apple switch to non removable memory and does this apply to
all Mac models?

I have a mid 2012 which I upgraded to 16 but at the time did not
know I could go higher.

At this point, if I do anything, it would be an SSD drive.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 10/16/2016 2:46 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Kevin, I’m with you and I wish you could take the MacBook pro up higher
as well.

When the memory was removable I was able to upgrade a 2011 model to 32
GB.  Would be nice to have 32 or 64 in the current line.



On Oct 16, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Chao mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. I'm
replacing this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. Janky
performance with loud fan/excessive heat got old :(

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth
mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:

 Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver
 user. My Macbook Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13
 inch mac at this time.
 > On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott mailto:portia.sc...@gmail.com>
 > wrote:
 >
 > Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014,
 and yeah, they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
 >
 > Portia.
 >> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:25 AM, christopher hallsworth
 mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
 >>
 >> Hello everyone.
 >>
 >> Well just thought to let you know that for Christmas I will be
 treating myself to the new 11 inch Macbook Air with base
 configuration: 4 GB RAM, 1.6 GHZ processor with turbo boost up to
 over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB pcie-based flash storage. Since
 I have an old, but very much usable, 13 inch Macbook Pro this
 should suit me fine.
 >>
 >>
 >> --
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 Mac Visionaries list.
 >>
 >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this
 list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please
 contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on
 the list itself.
 >>
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 reach mark at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com

 > and your
 owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at
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Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-17 Thread Scott Granados 
I have replaced a standard with an SSD and it makes a huge difference in 
performance as well as voiceover.  One important thing as well, remember as 
time passes on the mechanical hard drives the data becomes less and less 
contiguous.  This is why reformatting and restoring once in a while makes a 
difference.

SSD doesn’t do this either.
 

> On Oct 17, 2016, at 5:32 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Did you a standard hard drive with the SSD? I am more and more curious to 
> know if a lot of the Voiceover chatter would go away because the Mac loads 
> things faster.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/17/2016 11:36 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I have a TB drive running and it’s blazingly fast.
>> 
>> I wonder about the memory as well.  The Mac Pro can be upgraded considerably 
>> maybe that’s the product they want to move but you’d think they would give 
>> more memory options to the laptops.
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Its too bad Apple does not consider memory above 16 to be worthy. Well I 
>>> am putting a 1tb SSD drive on my Santa wish list.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/17/2016 11:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Hi E.T, I would highly recommend the SSD upgrade.  Will make a massive
 difference.
 
 On the memory side, I believe it was 2013 when the change took place.
 The Laptops are all built this way, I believe the IMac is still
 upgradable via a small door on the back.
 
> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:25 PM, E.T.  > wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> When did Apple switch to non removable memory and does this apply to
> all Mac models?
> 
> I have a mid 2012 which I upgraded to 16 but at the time did not
> know I could go higher.
> 
> At this point, if I do anything, it would be an SSD drive.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> On 10/16/2016 2:46 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Kevin, I’m with you and I wish you could take the MacBook pro up higher
>> as well.
>> 
>> When the memory was removable I was able to upgrade a 2011 model to 32
>> GB.  Would be nice to have 32 or 64 in the current line.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Chao >> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. I'm
>>> replacing this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. Janky
>>> performance with loud fan/excessive heat got old :(
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver
>>>  user. My Macbook Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13
>>>  inch mac at this time.
>>>  > On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott >> 
>>>  > wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  > Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014,
>>>  and yeah, they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
>>>  >
>>>  > Portia.
>>>  >> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:25 AM, christopher hallsworth
>>>  >> > wrote:
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Hello everyone.
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Well just thought to let you know that for Christmas I will be
>>>  treating myself to the new 11 inch Macbook Air with base
>>>  configuration: 4 GB RAM, 1.6 GHZ processor with turbo boost up to
>>>  over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB pcie-based flash storage. Since
>>>  I have an old, but very much usable, 13 inch Macbook Pro this
>>>  should suit me fine.
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >> --
>>>  >> The following information is important for all members of the
>>>  Mac Visionaries list.
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Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-17 Thread E.T. 
   Did you a standard hard drive with the SSD? I am more and more 
curious to know if a lot of the Voiceover chatter would go away because 
the Mac loads things faster.


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On 10/17/2016 11:36 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

I have a TB drive running and it’s blazingly fast.

I wonder about the memory as well.  The Mac Pro can be upgraded considerably 
maybe that’s the product they want to move but you’d think they would give more 
memory options to the laptops.


On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  Its too bad Apple does not consider memory above 16 to be worthy. Well I am 
putting a 1tb SSD drive on my Santa wish list.

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On 10/17/2016 11:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi E.T, I would highly recommend the SSD upgrade.  Will make a massive
difference.

On the memory side, I believe it was 2013 when the change took place.
The Laptops are all built this way, I believe the IMac is still
upgradable via a small door on the back.


On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:25 PM, E.T. mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Scott,
 When did Apple switch to non removable memory and does this apply to
all Mac models?

 I have a mid 2012 which I upgraded to 16 but at the time did not
know I could go higher.

 At this point, if I do anything, it would be an SSD drive.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 10/16/2016 2:46 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Kevin, I’m with you and I wish you could take the MacBook pro up higher
as well.

When the memory was removable I was able to upgrade a 2011 model to 32
GB.  Would be nice to have 32 or 64 in the current line.



On Oct 16, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Chao mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. I'm
replacing this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. Janky
performance with loud fan/excessive heat got old :(

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth
mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:

  Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver
  user. My Macbook Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13
  inch mac at this time.
  > On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott mailto:portia.sc...@gmail.com>
  > wrote:
  >
  > Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014,
  and yeah, they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
  >
  > Portia.
  >> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:25 AM, christopher hallsworth
  mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
  >>
  >> Hello everyone.
  >>
  >> Well just thought to let you know that for Christmas I will be
  treating myself to the new 11 inch Macbook Air with base
  configuration: 4 GB RAM, 1.6 GHZ processor with turbo boost up to
  over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB pcie-based flash storage. Since
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Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-17 Thread Scott Granados 
I have a TB drive running and it’s blazingly fast.  

I wonder about the memory as well.  The Mac Pro can be upgraded considerably 
maybe that’s the product they want to move but you’d think they would give more 
memory options to the laptops.

> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:34 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Its too bad Apple does not consider memory above 16 to be worthy. Well I am 
> putting a 1tb SSD drive on my Santa wish list.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/17/2016 11:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Hi E.T, I would highly recommend the SSD upgrade.  Will make a massive
>> difference.
>> 
>> On the memory side, I believe it was 2013 when the change took place.
>> The Laptops are all built this way, I believe the IMac is still
>> upgradable via a small door on the back.
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:25 PM, E.T. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>>  When did Apple switch to non removable memory and does this apply to
>>> all Mac models?
>>> 
>>>  I have a mid 2012 which I upgraded to 16 but at the time did not
>>> know I could go higher.
>>> 
>>>  At this point, if I do anything, it would be an SSD drive.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> 
>>> On 10/16/2016 2:46 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Kevin, I’m with you and I wish you could take the MacBook pro up higher
 as well.
 
 When the memory was removable I was able to upgrade a 2011 model to 32
 GB.  Would be nice to have 32 or 64 in the current line.
 
 
> On Oct 16, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Chao  
> > wrote:
> 
> I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. I'm
> replacing this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. Janky
> performance with loud fan/excessive heat got old :(
> 
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth
>  > wrote:
> 
>   Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver
>   user. My Macbook Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13
>   inch mac at this time.
>   > On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott  
>   > wrote:
>   >
>   > Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014,
>   and yeah, they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
>   >
>   > Portia.
>   >> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:25 AM, christopher hallsworth
>    > wrote:
>   >>
>   >> Hello everyone.
>   >>
>   >> Well just thought to let you know that for Christmas I will be
>   treating myself to the new 11 inch Macbook Air with base
>   configuration: 4 GB RAM, 1.6 GHZ processor with turbo boost up to
>   over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB pcie-based flash storage. Since
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Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-17 Thread E.T. 
   Its too bad Apple does not consider memory above 16 to be worthy. 
Well I am putting a 1tb SSD drive on my Santa wish list.


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On 10/17/2016 11:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi E.T, I would highly recommend the SSD upgrade.  Will make a massive
difference.

On the memory side, I believe it was 2013 when the change took place.
 The Laptops are all built this way, I believe the IMac is still
upgradable via a small door on the back.


On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:25 PM, E.T. mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Scott,
  When did Apple switch to non removable memory and does this apply to
all Mac models?

  I have a mid 2012 which I upgraded to 16 but at the time did not
know I could go higher.

  At this point, if I do anything, it would be an SSD drive.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

On 10/16/2016 2:46 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Kevin, I’m with you and I wish you could take the MacBook pro up higher
as well.

When the memory was removable I was able to upgrade a 2011 model to 32
GB.  Would be nice to have 32 or 64 in the current line.



On Oct 16, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Chao mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. I'm
replacing this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. Janky
performance with loud fan/excessive heat got old :(

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth
mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:

   Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver
   user. My Macbook Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13
   inch mac at this time.
   > On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott mailto:portia.sc...@gmail.com>
   > wrote:
   >
   > Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014,
   and yeah, they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
   >
   > Portia.
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   mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
   >>
   >> Hello everyone.
   >>
   >> Well just thought to let you know that for Christmas I will be
   treating myself to the new 11 inch Macbook Air with base
   configuration: 4 GB RAM, 1.6 GHZ processor with turbo boost up to
   over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB pcie-based flash storage. Since
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Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-17 Thread Scott Granados 
Hi E.T, I would highly recommend the SSD upgrade.  Will make a massive 
difference.

On the memory side, I believe it was 2013 when the change took place.  The 
Laptops are all built this way, I believe the IMac is still upgradable via a 
small door on the back.

> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:25 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   When did Apple switch to non removable memory and does this apply to all 
> Mac models?
> 
>   I have a mid 2012 which I upgraded to 16 but at the time did not know I 
> could go higher.
> 
>   At this point, if I do anything, it would be an SSD drive.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> On 10/16/2016 2:46 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Kevin, I’m with you and I wish you could take the MacBook pro up higher
>> as well.
>> 
>> When the memory was removable I was able to upgrade a 2011 model to 32
>> GB.  Would be nice to have 32 or 64 in the current line.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Chao >> 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. I'm
>>> replacing this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. Janky
>>> performance with loud fan/excessive heat got old :(
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth
>>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>> 
>>>Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver
>>>user. My Macbook Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13
>>>inch mac at this time.
>>>> On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott >> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014,
>>>and yeah, they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
>>>>
>>>> Portia.
>>>>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:25 AM, christopher hallsworth
>>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well just thought to let you know that for Christmas I will be
>>>treating myself to the new 11 inch Macbook Air with base
>>>configuration: 4 GB RAM, 1.6 GHZ processor with turbo boost up to
>>>over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB pcie-based flash storage. Since
>>>I have an old, but very much usable, 13 inch Macbook Pro this
>>>should suit me fine.
>>>>>
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Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-17 Thread E.T. 

Scott,
   When did Apple switch to non removable memory and does this apply to 
all Mac models?


   I have a mid 2012 which I upgraded to 16 but at the time did not 
know I could go higher.


   At this point, if I do anything, it would be an SSD drive.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/16/2016 2:46 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Kevin, I’m with you and I wish you could take the MacBook pro up higher
as well.

When the memory was removable I was able to upgrade a 2011 model to 32
GB.  Would be nice to have 32 or 64 in the current line.



On Oct 16, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Chao mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. I'm
replacing this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. Janky
performance with loud fan/excessive heat got old :(

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth
mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver
user. My Macbook Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13
inch mac at this time.
> On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott mailto:portia.sc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014,
and yeah, they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
>
> Portia.
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:25 AM, christopher hallsworth
mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone.
>>
>> Well just thought to let you know that for Christmas I will be
treating myself to the new 11 inch Macbook Air with base
configuration: 4 GB RAM, 1.6 GHZ processor with turbo boost up to
over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB pcie-based flash storage. Since
I have an old, but very much usable, 13 inch Macbook Pro this
should suit me fine.
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RE: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-17 Thread Simon Fogarty 
Kevin,

I fully agree, I’m waiting until the new line is released and hopefully then I 
can get 16gb in an BA

I really don’t want to go to a pro.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2016 10:44 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. I'm replacing 
this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. Janky performance with loud 
fan/excessive heat got old :(

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth 
mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver user. My Macbook 
Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13 inch mac at this time.
> On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott 
> mailto:portia.sc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014, and yeah, 
> they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
>
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>>
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>> GHZ processor with turbo boost up to over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB 
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Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-16 Thread Scott Granados 
Kevin, I’m with you and I wish you could take the MacBook pro up higher as well.

When the memory was removable I was able to upgrade a 2011 model to 32 GB.  
Would be nice to have 32 or 64 in the current line.
 

> On Oct 16, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
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> I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. I'm 
> replacing this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. Janky performance 
> with loud fan/excessive heat got old :(
> 
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth 
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> Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver user. My 
> Macbook Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13 inch mac at this 
> time.
> > On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott  > > wrote:
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> > Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014, and yeah, 
> > they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
> >
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Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-16 Thread Kevin Chao 
I wish the MBA's, whether it be 11" or 13" could accept 16GB RAM. I'm
replacing this 13" Air with 8GB RAM for Pro with 16GB RAM. Janky
performance with loud fan/excessive heat got old :(

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:49 AM christopher hallsworth <
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> Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver user. My
> Macbook Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13 inch mac at this
> time.
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> > Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014, and
> yeah, they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
> >
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Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-03 Thread christopher hallsworth 
Screen size doesn’t bother me since I am a full time VoiceOver user. My Macbook 
Pro is 13 inches anyway so don’t need another 13 inch mac at this time.
> On 3 Oct 2016, at 09:41, Portia Scott  wrote:
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> Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014, and yeah, 
> they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
> 
> Portia.
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>> GHZ processor with turbo boost up to over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB 
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Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-03 Thread christopher hallsworth 
Ok thanks for advice very much appreciated.

> On 3 Oct 2016, at 11:23, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> If you can, try to get 256GB instead of 128GB. I've used a 64GB, and my 
> sister currently has a 128GB. The space just isn't as much as you'd think; a 
> couple movies or a season of a TV show and suddenly you're getting the 
> "startup disk is almost full" warning all the time. It's just me, but I'd 
> increase the storage if at all possible.
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 04:41, Portia Scott  wrote:
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>> Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014, and yeah, 
>> they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
>> 
>> Portia.
>>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:25 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone.
>>> 
>>> Well just thought to let you know that for Christmas I will be treating 
>>> myself to the new 11 inch Macbook Air with base configuration: 4 GB RAM, 
>>> 1.6 GHZ processor with turbo boost up to over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB 
>>> pcie-based flash storage. Since I have an old, but very much usable, 13 
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Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-03 Thread Alex Hall 
If you can, try to get 256GB instead of 128GB. I've used a 64GB, and my sister 
currently has a 128GB. The space just isn't as much as you'd think; a couple 
movies or a season of a TV show and suddenly you're getting the "startup disk 
is almost full" warning all the time. It's just me, but I'd increase the 
storage if at all possible.
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 04:41, Portia Scott  wrote:
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> Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014, and yeah, 
> they are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.
> 
> Portia.
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:25 AM, christopher hallsworth  
>> wrote:
>> 
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>> GHZ processor with turbo boost up to over 2 GHZ, Intel Core i5, 128 GB 
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Re: New Macbook Air for Christmas

2016-10-03 Thread Portia Scott 
Aww that is so awesome. I have the base 13 inch model from 2014, and yeah, they 
are awesome. I have a feeling you will love it.

Portia.
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:25 AM, christopher hallsworth  
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