Re: Speed test comparison between Google Pixel and iPhone 7+

2016-10-23 Thread David Chittenden 
The Pixel phone is designed to work all over the world. Google has set it up to 
work with their forthcoming Fi network. They will be charging $10 per GB of 
data, which they round to the nearest MB, and credit back the money for the 
data not used. They also state the $10 per GB is active in over 135 countries. 
Their basic plan is $20 per month for unlimited calls and text through the US. 
Calls outside the US start at $.02 per minute. Roaming outside the US is $0.20 
per minute for voice calls.

On the low end, the costs look pretty good. On the higher end, the costs for 
data look expensive. Also, Fi only works with Pixel phones and Nexus 5 and 
Nexus 6 phones, according to the Google web site.


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> On 23/10/2016, at 15:48, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I’m not sure the phone is built to work anywhere in the world.  Verizon is 
> the only US carrier that sells it in their stores but places like Best Buy in 
> the US carry it.  I think it’s for global consumption.
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
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>> I didn’t think google were releasing that phone to the world markets?
>> I thought it was only available from the play store in the USA?
>>  
>> Or am I thinking of another google device!
>>  
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Re: Speed test comparison between Google Pixel and iPhone 7+

2016-10-22 Thread Scott Granados 
I’m not sure the phone is built to work anywhere in the world.  Verizon is the 
only US carrier that sells it in their stores but places like Best Buy in the 
US carry it.  I think it’s for global consumption.

> On Oct 22, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
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> I didn’t think google were releasing that phone to the world markets?
> I thought it was only available from the play store in the USA?
>  
> Or am I thinking of another google device!
>  
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RE: Speed test comparison between Google Pixel and iPhone 7+

2016-10-22 Thread Simon Fogarty 
I didn’t think google were releasing that phone to the world markets?
I thought it was only available from the play store in the USA?

Or am I thinking of another google device!

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Re: Speed test comparison between Google Pixel and iPhone 7+

2016-10-21 Thread Scott Granados 
This is true.  Apple just hired a professor of AI from CMU to catch them up.

About time!

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Re: Speed test comparison between Google Pixel and iPhone 7+

2016-10-21 Thread Kevin Chao 
If it were Google Assistant against Siri - we know who would win

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Re: Speed test comparison between Google Pixel and iPhone 7+

2016-10-21 Thread Scott Granados 
Mary, agreed, the Pixels though I believe have 4 GB of program memory so that 
should be a pretty close comparison.  I doubt anything in that test used up 3 
gigs.  I believe the two phones were selected because their hardware was 
similarly configured and the number of pixels on the screen were the same. Both 
were run in 1080P so no one phone was unfairly taxed on the graphics side.

I’m sure we can find a test matchup with the devices you mention though.

> On Oct 21, 2016, at 11:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I wonder what the difference might have been had they used an iPhone 7 and 
> set up a plus against the pixel. It has less ram. Would that of made any 
> difference? Same chip, so maybe not. It seems like four things that matter to 
> us, that is not games, they're pretty close. The pixel even did a little 
> better and somethings. So if you're not doing heavy lifting like games, or 
> other things that really tax the chip, it may be a draw or close to one.
> Mary
> 
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> On Oct 21, 2016, at 7:56 PM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
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>> Thought some might find this interesting, especially since Apple wins.
>> 
>> Well, some of you can probably guess how this turns out since I’m posting.:)
>> 
>> Here’s an interesting speed test that shows the difference in performance 
>> between the flagship iPhone 7+ and a Pixel.  A Pixel was used to insure the 
>> resolutions were as close as possible and to not favor one over the other by 
>> the number of pixels (graphics elements) being generated.  On simple 
>> applications the Pixel does well.  Things like the calculator and twitter 
>> are very close and sometimes favor the Pixel.  On Bench marks, the Pixel 
>> isn’t even in the game.  The iPhone crushes the pixel so score one for the 
>> A10 over the Snapdragon.  On more complex applications like gaming there’s 
>> no contest, the iPhone smokes the Pixel.  Both single core and multicore 
>> performance on the pixel pales in comparison to the iPhone 7+.  I’d have 
>> liked to have seen more network tests because I think the Pixel would win 
>> but this video doesn’t contain much in that area.  The Pixel is starting to 
>> find it’s way and be a competitor to Apple but it’s not there yet, 
>> especially on complex tasks.  At least on simple applications it’s not a 
>> blood bath like previous years but the heavy lifting is still got a long way 
>> to go for Google.  This plays along with what I’ve been saying about the 
>> inferior Snapdragon processors and other companies doing more exciting 
>> things with mobile processors like Samsung, several Chinese manufacturers 
>> and of course Apple.
>> 
>> View the tests here
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejWHaGjSQGs 
>> 
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Re: Speed test comparison between Google Pixel and iPhone 7+

2016-10-21 Thread Mary Otten 
I wonder what the difference might have been had they used an iPhone 7 and set 
up a plus against the pixel. It has less ram. Would that of made any 
difference? Same chip, so maybe not. It seems like four things that matter to 
us, that is not games, they're pretty close. The pixel even did a little better 
and somethings. So if you're not doing heavy lifting like games, or other 
things that really tax the chip, it may be a draw or close to one.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2016, at 7:56 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Thought some might find this interesting, especially since Apple wins.
> 
> Well, some of you can probably guess how this turns out since I’m posting.:)
> 
> Here’s an interesting speed test that shows the difference in performance 
> between the flagship iPhone 7+ and a Pixel.  A Pixel was used to insure the 
> resolutions were as close as possible and to not favor one over the other by 
> the number of pixels (graphics elements) being generated.  On simple 
> applications the Pixel does well.  Things like the calculator and twitter are 
> very close and sometimes favor the Pixel.  On Bench marks, the Pixel isn’t 
> even in the game.  The iPhone crushes the pixel so score one for the A10 over 
> the Snapdragon.  On more complex applications like gaming there’s no contest, 
> the iPhone smokes the Pixel.  Both single core and multicore performance on 
> the pixel pales in comparison to the iPhone 7+.  I’d have liked to have seen 
> more network tests because I think the Pixel would win but this video doesn’t 
> contain much in that area.  The Pixel is starting to find it’s way and be a 
> competitor to Apple but it’s not there yet, especially on complex tasks.  At 
> least on simple applications it’s not a blood bath like previous years but 
> the heavy lifting is still got a long way to go for Google.  This plays along 
> with what I’ve been saying about the inferior Snapdragon processors and other 
> companies doing more exciting things with mobile processors like Samsung, 
> several Chinese manufacturers and of course Apple.
> 
> View the tests here
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejWHaGjSQGs
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