Re: Strange issue with Site in firefox and VoiceOver.

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   Anders, what version of Firefox are you now running?

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On 8/6/2023 5:06 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
I have a page in Swedish where firefox and Voiceover doesn’t work 
properly together.
It’s  nearly impossible to navigate the page because things work so slow 
on just that page. 
https://friapsalmboken.blogspot.com/2018/11/halsokallan-flodde.html 

It works properly in Safari so I don’t see why its a pain in the but to 
view in Firefox.

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Re: Strange issue with Site in firefox and VoiceOver.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well, I  was a bit surprised since ff work so well for me elsewhere but this 
site things just did not work.
Bless.
/A

> 6 aug. 2023 kl. 14:48 skrev josephlho...@gmail.com:
> 
> Firefox is a different architecture in that what is powering Safari and 
> Firefox is completely different. It’s not surprising to me that things would 
> be a bit different from time to time. Now if you were using two Chromium 
> browsers and had different experiences then I would be a bit more perplexed. 
>  
>  
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> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 8:07 AM
> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  >
> Subject: Strange issue with Site in firefox and VoiceOver.
>  
> Hi!
> I have a page in Swedish where firefox and Voiceover doesn’t work properly 
> together.
> It’s  nearly impossible to navigate the page because things work so slow on 
> just that page. 
> https://friapsalmboken.blogspot.com/2018/11/halsokallan-flodde.html
> It works properly in Safari so I don’t see why its a pain in the but to view 
> in Firefox.
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RE: Strange issue with Site in firefox and VoiceOver.

[josephlhodge]

Firefox is a different architecture in that what is powering Safari and Firefox 
is completely different. It’s not surprising to me that things would be a bit 
different from time to time. Now if you were using two Chromium browsers and 
had different experiences then I would be a bit more perplexed. 

 

 

 

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Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 8:07 AM
To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Strange issue with Site in firefox and VoiceOver.

 

Hi!

I have a page in Swedish where firefox and Voiceover doesn’t work properly 
together.

It’s  nearly impossible to navigate the page because things work so slow on 
just that page. 
https://friapsalmboken.blogspot.com/2018/11/halsokallan-flodde.html

It works properly in Safari so I don’t see why its a pain in the but to view in 
Firefox.

/A

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Re: Strange issue with VoiceOver.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes and it worked just fine as you suggested.
Thanks for your help.
/A

> 17 dec. 2020 kl. 00:35 skrev Brad Snyder :
> 
> I have been using a Mac since OS X 10.8 (Mountain Lion), and in my 
> experience, auto-QuickNav on/off has only existed in iOS.
> On the Mac, if you want to type with QuickNav on, you need to make sure that 
> Quick Key Navigation is turned off using VO + Q.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Dec 16, 2020, at 17:22, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
> QuickNav will auto toggle off (just like in IOS) when you have the VO Cursor 
> inside a text input field on the web. My memory is that five years ago, when 
> composing e-mails (probably High Sierra ) the auto-toggling of QuickNav 
> happened in TextEdit and Mail also. So, perhaps it is a bug, but it has been 
> so long since this behaved the way I like, that I doubt it will ever change 
> back. 
> This is one reason, I prefer using a full keyboard with a numeric keypad for 
> Navigating. I can have single key storkes that do most of my navigation 
> without remembering if QuickNav mode is on or off.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2020, at 18:06, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I wonder if its a feature or a bug?
>> Really strange.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 16 dec. 2020 kl. 21:00 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>>> 
>>> In my experience, Anders, if quick nav is on, I could never type in text 
>>> boxes.  I have to disable quick nav in order to enter text in text boxes.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
 On 16 Dec 2020, at 19:57, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi!
 I  seem to have changed some setting on my Mac that makes quicknav to stop 
 the ability to type in textfields.
 Also YouTube shortcuts does not work if I have quicknav turned off.
 Any thoughts on this?
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Re: Strange issue with VoiceOver.

[Brad Snyder]

I have been using a Mac since OS X 10.8 (Mountain Lion), and in my experience, 
auto-QuickNav on/off has only existed in iOS.
On the Mac, if you want to type with QuickNav on, you need to make sure that 
Quick Key Navigation is turned off using VO + Q.

- Brad -


On Dec 16, 2020, at 17:22, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

QuickNav will auto toggle off (just like in IOS) when you have the VO Cursor 
inside a text input field on the web. My memory is that five years ago, when 
composing e-mails (probably High Sierra ) the auto-toggling of QuickNav 
happened in TextEdit and Mail also. So, perhaps it is a bug, but it has been so 
long since this behaved the way I like, that I doubt it will ever change back. 
This is one reason, I prefer using a full keyboard with a numeric keypad for 
Navigating. I can have single key storkes that do most of my navigation without 
remembering if QuickNav mode is on or off.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 16, 2020, at 18:06, Anders Holmberg  > wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I wonder if its a feature or a bug?
> Really strange.
> /A
> 
>> 16 dec. 2020 kl. 21:00 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>> 
>> In my experience, Anders, if quick nav is on, I could never type in text 
>> boxes.  I have to disable quick nav in order to enter text in text boxes.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 16 Dec 2020, at 19:57, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I  seem to have changed some setting on my Mac that makes quicknav to stop 
>>> the ability to type in textfields.
>>> Also YouTube shortcuts does not work if I have quicknav turned off.
>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>> /A
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Re: Strange issue with VoiceOver.

[Jonathan Cohn]

QuickNav will auto toggle off (just like in IOS) when you have the VO Cursor 
inside a text input field on the web. My memory is that five years ago, when 
composing e-mails (probably High Sierra ) the auto-toggling of QuickNav 
happened in TextEdit and Mail also. So, perhaps it is a bug, but it has been so 
long since this behaved the way I like, that I doubt it will ever change back. 
This is one reason, I prefer using a full keyboard with a numeric keypad for 
Navigating. I can have single key storkes that do most of my navigation without 
remembering if QuickNav mode is on or off.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 16, 2020, at 18:06, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I wonder if its a feature or a bug?
> Really strange.
> /A
> 
>> 16 dec. 2020 kl. 21:00 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> In my experience, Anders, if quick nav is on, I could never type in text 
>> boxes.  I have to disable quick nav in order to enter text in text boxes.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 16 Dec 2020, at 19:57, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I  seem to have changed some setting on my Mac that makes quicknav to stop 
>>> the ability to type in textfields.
>>> Also YouTube shortcuts does not work if I have quicknav turned off.
>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>> /A
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Re: Strange issue with VoiceOver.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I wonder if its a feature or a bug?
Really strange.
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> 16 dec. 2020 kl. 21:00 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> :
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> In my experience, Anders, if quick nav is on, I could never type in text 
> boxes.  I have to disable quick nav in order to enter text in text boxes.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 16 Dec 2020, at 19:57, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I  seem to have changed some setting on my Mac that makes quicknav to stop 
>> the ability to type in textfields.
>> Also YouTube shortcuts does not work if I have quicknav turned off.
>> Any thoughts on this?
>> /A
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Re: Strange issue with VoiceOver.

[Brad Snyder]

Try using VO + Q, to toggle Quick Key navigation off.

- Brad -


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In my experience, Anders, if quick nav is on, I could never type in text boxes. 
 I have to disable quick nav in order to enter text in text boxes.

Andrew
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> Also YouTube shortcuts does not work if I have quicknav turned off.
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Re: Strange issue with VoiceOver.

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

In my experience, Anders, if quick nav is on, I could never type in text boxes. 
 I have to disable quick nav in order to enter text in text boxes.

Andrew
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Re: Strange issue with the IPHone playing split tracks.

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Sorry, I just took a stab in the dark hoping it would help. I just listen to 
the same song on my phone and it sounded fine.
Hoe you manage to fix it.

> On 14/05/2020, at 10:17, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> I’ve noticed recently, that the feature before iOS 13, where you could simply 
> tilt your phone if you were playing a split track and wanted it to play in 
> stereo instead, seems to no longer be in existence.  Perfect example, if I 
> wanted to here “Aquarius” by “the Fifth Dimension,” I can barely hear the 
> lead vocalist, and what I can here sounds far away.  However, if I were to 
> listen to that same track on headphones, I could hear both, but the channels 
> for this track are separate, so I’d end up hearing the lead vocalist in my 
> right ear, and everything else in my left ear. Is there a feature I’m missing 
> as far as fixing this, or is it just something we just have to live with for 
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Re: Strange issue with the IPHone playing split tracks.

[Jessica Moss]

I didn’t think it was an EQ issue either, but decided to try it just to see if 
it changed anything, and unfortunately, that did nothing.  I didn’t notice this 
actually until iOS 13 came out, and it would just channel them and the function 
that used to be available, which was to tilt the phone, then hold it as if I 
were going to answer a call, and it would bring those channels to the center, 
but I had to continue to hold it straight and not lay it flat, or they would 
separate again.  However, with the onset of iOS 13, that feature seems to have 
disappeared.

> On May 13, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> I’ve done nothing special with the EQ setting in the Music app on my iPhone X 
> running iOS 13.4.1, and I just played the same track (Aquarius by the 5th 
> Dimension) and everything sounded good through both the iPhone’s speakers and 
> my AirPods Pro.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 13, 2020, at 20:06, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
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> Hi Jessica,
> Can’t say I’ve noticed this. But did you ever use the QE function on the 
> music app? If you go in to your settings on your phone and find the music app 
> settings you should find the QE settings in there. It is usually  turned off 
> by default but if you turn it on you can adjust your preferences for the type 
> of music and other stuff. This may have nothing to do with your issue but 
> it’s worth a look. 
> 
>> On 14/05/2020, at 10:17, Jessica Moss > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve noticed recently, that the feature before iOS 13, where you could 
>> simply tilt your phone if you were playing a split track and wanted it to 
>> play in stereo instead, seems to no longer be in existence.  Perfect 
>> example, if I wanted to here “Aquarius” by “the Fifth Dimension,” I can 
>> barely hear the lead vocalist, and what I can here sounds far away.  
>> However, if I were to listen to that same track on headphones, I could hear 
>> both, but the channels for this track are separate, so I’d end up hearing 
>> the lead vocalist in my right ear, and everything else in my left ear. Is 
>> there a feature I’m missing as far as fixing this, or is it just something 
>> we just have to live with for a while?
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Re: Strange issue with the IPHone playing split tracks.

[Brad Snyder]

I’ve done nothing special with the EQ setting in the Music app on my iPhone X 
running iOS 13.4.1, and I just played the same track (Aquarius by the 5th 
Dimension) and everything sounded good through both the iPhone’s speakers and 
my AirPods Pro.

- Brad -




On May 13, 2020, at 20:06, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

Hi Jessica,
Can’t say I’ve noticed this. But did you ever use the QE function on the music 
app? If you go in to your settings on your phone and find the music app 
settings you should find the QE settings in there. It is usually  turned off by 
default but if you turn it on you can adjust your preferences for the type of 
music and other stuff. This may have nothing to do with your issue but it’s 
worth a look. 

> On 14/05/2020, at 10:17, Jessica Moss  > wrote:
> 
> I’ve noticed recently, that the feature before iOS 13, where you could simply 
> tilt your phone if you were playing a split track and wanted it to play in 
> stereo instead, seems to no longer be in existence.  Perfect example, if I 
> wanted to here “Aquarius” by “the Fifth Dimension,” I can barely hear the 
> lead vocalist, and what I can here sounds far away.  However, if I were to 
> listen to that same track on headphones, I could hear both, but the channels 
> for this track are separate, so I’d end up hearing the lead vocalist in my 
> right ear, and everything else in my left ear. Is there a feature I’m missing 
> as far as fixing this, or is it just something we just have to live with for 
> a while?
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Re: Strange issue with the IPHone playing split tracks.

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi Jessica,
Can’t say I’ve noticed this. But did you ever use the QE function on the music 
app? If you go in to your settings on your phone and find the music app 
settings you should find the QE settings in there. It is usually  turned off by 
default but if you turn it on you can adjust your preferences for the type of 
music and other stuff. This may have nothing to do with your issue but it’s 
worth a look. 

> On 14/05/2020, at 10:17, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> I’ve noticed recently, that the feature before iOS 13, where you could simply 
> tilt your phone if you were playing a split track and wanted it to play in 
> stereo instead, seems to no longer be in existence.  Perfect example, if I 
> wanted to here “Aquarius” by “the Fifth Dimension,” I can barely hear the 
> lead vocalist, and what I can here sounds far away.  However, if I were to 
> listen to that same track on headphones, I could hear both, but the channels 
> for this track are separate, so I’d end up hearing the lead vocalist in my 
> right ear, and everything else in my left ear. Is there a feature I’m missing 
> as far as fixing this, or is it just something we just have to live with for 
> a while?
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RE: Strange issue.

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes under settings,
Phone
And then 
Calls on other devices, when near by,
 Click on this and then work your way down the page, it will list any devices 
on the same iCloud account, you can unselect the one you don't wish to have 
ring, so in each device untick the one that is the other device.

Good luck.

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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2017 3:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange issue.

Hi,

It sounds like your client has enabled the "Calls from other Devices" feature.  
That can be modified in the Phone pane of Settings.  Also, they may wish to 
check some of the settings within the FaceTime pane of Settings.  I would turn 
off any connections on the work device that may be forwarded from the personal 
device first.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 9, 2017, at 09:41, Jim Noseworthy  
wrote:

Hey Gang:

I have a client who has a work iPhone and one for personal use.  Both are using 
the same iCloud account.  When anyone calls either phone number, both phones 
ring and the call can be answered from either of the two phones.

Where is a setting that would disable/enable this?

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Re: Strange issue.

[Nickus de Vos]

Yes, this happens if both numbers are selected in FaceTime settings on either 
one or both of the phones. You must make sure that only The number Belonging to 
the phone is selected on it and also as said previously, turn off allow calls 
from other devices in the phone settings. While you are at it, also do the same 
in the iMessage settings.

Nickus
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> On 09 Aug 2017, at 19:06, Jim Noseworthy  
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> Tim:
> 
> Thanks all over the place.
> 
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Strange issue.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It sounds like your client has enabled the "Calls from other Devices" 
> feature.  That can be modified in the Phone pane of Settings.  Also, they may 
> wish to check some of the settings within the FaceTime pane of Settings.  I 
> would turn off any connections on the work device that may be forwarded from 
> the personal device first.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 09:41, Jim Noseworthy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey Gang:
> 
> I have a client who has a work iPhone and one for personal use.  Both are 
> using the same iCloud account.  When anyone calls either phone number, both 
> phones ring and the call can be answered from either of the two phones.
> 
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RE: Strange issue.

[Jim Noseworthy]

Tim:

Thanks all over the place.



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Subject: Re: Strange issue.

Hi,

It sounds like your client has enabled the "Calls from other Devices" feature.  
That can be modified in the Phone pane of Settings.  Also, they may wish to 
check some of the settings within the FaceTime pane of Settings.  I would turn 
off any connections on the work device that may be forwarded from the personal 
device first.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 9, 2017, at 09:41, Jim Noseworthy  
wrote:

Hey Gang:

I have a client who has a work iPhone and one for personal use.  Both are using 
the same iCloud account.  When anyone calls either phone number, both phones 
ring and the call can be answered from either of the two phones.

Where is a setting that would disable/enable this?

Thanks all over the place gang.


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Re: Strange issue.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It sounds like your client has enabled the "Calls from other Devices" feature.  
That can be modified in the Phone pane of Settings.  Also, they may wish to 
check some of the settings within the FaceTime pane of Settings.  I would turn 
off any connections on the work device that may be forwarded from the personal 
device first.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 9, 2017, at 09:41, Jim Noseworthy  
wrote:

Hey Gang:

I have a client who has a work iPhone and one for personal use.  Both are using 
the same iCloud account.  When anyone calls either phone number, both phones 
ring and the call can be answered from either of the two phones.

Where is a setting that would disable/enable this?

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Re: Strange Issue with Mail Preferences

[Jonathan Cohn]

Try moving the cursor away from the setting and back to make sure the right 
item was selected.
Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Jan 20, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
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> I’m looking for any suggestions to resolve an unusual problem in setting the 
> “Spell-Check” property in Mail Preferences.
> 
> A friend had the property set to “As You Type” and wanted to change it to 
> “Never.” I walked her through the “Mail Preferences” sheet; having her select 
> the “Composing Button” in the Tool Bar and then selecting “Never” in the 
> Pop-Up for Spell-Check.  I then advised her to close the window with 
> +W, but when she tried to compose a mail message with an 
> intentionally misspelled word the spell checking screen still appeared.
> 
> She is using a Mac Mini (2.6 GHz) with Sierra installed.
> 
> Does anybody have any thoughts on this.  I should add that I repeated the 
> exact steps on my Mac Mini and spelll check is naught coming up for me. (for 
> thoze that are able to vizhually read this message, yes, I’ve intentionally 
> put spelling airrors in these final lynes)! ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> Bill
> - "It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that 
> you would lie if you were in his place."
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[Roland Zitzke]

Hello Anne,

Am Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2015 13:38:38 UTC+2 schrieb Anne Robertson:
>
>
>
> I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my 
> MacBook Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact 
> with the document layout area and then with the text and the up and down 
> arrow keys work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text 
> pointer are not in the same place despite the fact that I have them 
> following each other. The mouse is somewhere else again! 
> I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m 
> looking at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a 
> time, and VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. 
> When I go to the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of 
> pages.. 
>
 I can fully confirm this behavior. It appears as if multipage documents 
simply do not work (yet).
This is a little surprising since the overall accessibility of Word looks 
quite good at a first glance.

/Roland

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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Eileen,

The beta still works but you have to download the updater and update the 
applications regularly. It seems that every time I open Word, the updater kicks 
in and downloads a new version.

The whole process was explained here a while ago but I don’t seem to have kept 
the message. Perhaps someone else has kept it.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 16 Jul 2015, at 19:24, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi There,
> 
> I hope I'm not hijacking this thread too much. I was a beta tester for Office 
> for the Mac. I don't have Office 365 that is offering the new version. My 
> question is: Does the beta still work or will I need to wait when the Office 
> product is released in the fall to use it again on the Mac? I did open Word, 
> interacted with the document, but no text was inputted there. That's why I'm 
> replying to this thread.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Warmest regards,
> Eileen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:47 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, this is the strange thing, it worked fine until a couple betas ago. Now 
>> if i interact only with the layout area VO can sometimes read one letter of 
>> a word and then is silent. If i interact with the text, nothing whatsoever 
>> is spoken except for the occational font- and size change, nothing more.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 16 juli 2015 kl. 13:38 skrev Anne Robertson :
>>> 
>>> Hello Krister,
>>> 
>>> I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my 
>>> MacBook Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact 
>>> with the document layout area and then with the text and the up and down 
>>> arrow keys work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text 
>>> pointer are not in the same place despite the fact that I have them 
>>> following each other. The mouse is somewhere else again!
>>> I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking 
>>> at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, 
>>> and VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I 
>>> go to the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom  
 wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
 try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
 only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
 cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
 the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
 vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but 
 when i try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is 
 read.
 I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but 
 what obvious thing im i missing?
 Anyone else come across this?
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi There,

I hope I'm not hijacking this thread too much. I was a beta tester for Office 
for the Mac. I don't have Office 365 that is offering the new version. My 
question is: Does the beta still work or will I need to wait when the Office 
product is released in the fall to use it again on the Mac? I did open Word, 
interacted with the document, but no text was inputted there. That's why I'm 
replying to this thread.

Thanks.

Warmest regards,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:47 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, this is the strange thing, it worked fine until a couple betas ago. Now 
> if i interact only with the layout area VO can sometimes read one letter of a 
> word and then is silent. If i interact with the text, nothing whatsoever is 
> spoken except for the occational font- and size change, nothing more.
> /Krister
> 
>> 16 juli 2015 kl. 13:38 skrev Anne Robertson :
>> 
>> Hello Krister,
>> 
>> I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my 
>> MacBook Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact 
>> with the document layout area and then with the text and the up and down 
>> arrow keys work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text 
>> pointer are not in the same place despite the fact that I have them 
>> following each other. The mouse is somewhere else again!
>> I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking 
>> at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, and 
>> VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I go 
>> to the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there.
>>> I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
>>> try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
>>> only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
>>> cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
>>> the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
>>> vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but when 
>>> i try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is read.
>>> I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
>>> obvious thing im i missing?
>>> Anyone else come across this?
>>> /Krister
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi, this is the strange thing, it worked fine until a couple betas ago. Now if 
i interact only with the layout area VO can sometimes read one letter of a word 
and then is silent. If i interact with the text, nothing whatsoever is spoken 
except for the occational font- and size change, nothing more.
/Krister

> 16 juli 2015 kl. 13:38 skrev Anne Robertson :
> 
> Hello Krister,
> 
> I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my MacBook 
> Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact with the 
> document layout area and then with the text and the up and down arrow keys 
> work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text pointer are not 
> in the same place despite the fact that I have them following each other. The 
> mouse is somewhere else again!
> I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking 
> at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, and 
> VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I go to 
> the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there.
>> I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
>> try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
>> only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
>> cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
>> the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
>> vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but when 
>> i try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is read.
>> I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
>> obvious thing im i missing?
>> Anyone else come across this?
>> /Krister
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Krister,

I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my MacBook 
Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact with the 
document layout area and then with the text and the up and down arrow keys work 
fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text pointer are not in the 
same place despite the fact that I have them following each other. The mouse is 
somewhere else again!
I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking at 
has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, and VO 
says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I go to the 
Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..

Cheers,

Anne


> On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> Hi there.
> I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
> try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
> only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
> cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
> the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
> vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but when i 
> try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is read.
> I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
> obvious thing im i missing?
> Anyone else come across this?
> /Krister
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Re: strange issue with my computer

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

i don't think so because i turn off quick nav to type on the edit filled
> On 14 Jun 2015, at 2:24 pm, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
> sounds like a quicknav issue?
> 
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone, i am having problem with my computer, like closing windows 
>> on my mac. I was working with imovie this morning but this strange issue 
>> came up. before i restarted my computer, i did open safari then i tried to 
>> type on the edit box, but on my surprise i can't type anything. can somebody 
>> help me. i already repair my disk.
>> thanks
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Re: strange issue with my computer

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

sounds like a quicknav issue?


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Jun 14, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
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> Hello everyone, i am having problem with my computer, like closing windows on 
> my mac. I was working with imovie this morning but this strange issue came 
> up. before i restarted my computer, i did open safari then i tried to type on 
> the edit box, but on my surprise i can't type anything. can somebody help me. 
> i already repair my disk.
> thanks
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Re: strange issue with my computer

[Shaf]

Be more specific.

On 6/14/2015 12:49 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:

Hello everyone, i am having problem with my computer, like closing windows on 
my mac. I was working with imovie this morning but this strange issue came up. 
before i restarted my computer, i did open safari then i tried to type on the 
edit box, but on my surprise i can't type anything. can somebody help me. i 
already repair my disk.
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Re: strange issue in Safari and bookmarks

[Anders Holmberg]

Hello!
I can not reproduce this.
When i press option command b it says edit text and then i am on a bookmarks 
page. Pressing the same keys again makes vo say edit text.
/A
> 23 dec 2014 kl. 21:04 skrev Faisal ali :
> 
> Hi all,
> I’m not sure if this has already been brought up but I think I found what 
> appears to be a bug in Safari. After doing a CMD Option b to bring up the 
> bookmarks folder for editing, everything works fine. But when doing the same 
> command of CMD option b to dismiss the editor, safari becomes unresponsive. 
> All I see is a scrolle  window with an empty HTML document. The only way to 
> restore Safari is by restarting it. Is anyone able to reproduce  this?
> Thanks
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Re: strange issue in Safari and bookmarks

[Faisal ali]

David,
CMD shit h might be my only option aside from restarting safari.
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:18 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
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> I will give it another try but so far I cannot replicate your problem.
> What happens for me when I quit the bookmark editor is that I am in the 
> Toolbar. Rather than navigating around this I routinely hit command shift H 
> to go to my home page with focus on the web page. This was habit I developed 
> under Mavericks for those occasions I wanted to quickly get out of the Tool 
> bar and this seems to work just as well under Yosemite.
> 
> As i say I will keep on trying to see if I can reproduce your problem.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
>> On 23 Dec 2014, at 20:04, Faisal ali  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I’m not sure if this has already been brought up but I think I found what 
>> appears to be a bug in Safari. After doing a CMD Option b to bring up the 
>> bookmarks folder for editing, everything works fine. But when doing the same 
>> command of CMD option b to dismiss the editor, safari becomes unresponsive. 
>> All I see is a scrolle  window with an empty HTML document. The only way to 
>> restore Safari is by restarting it. Is anyone able to reproduce  this?
>> Thanks
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Re: strange issue in Safari and bookmarks

[David Griffith]

I will give it another try but so far I cannot replicate your problem.
What happens for me when I quit the bookmark editor is that I am in the 
Toolbar. Rather than navigating around this I routinely hit command shift H to 
go to my home page with focus on the web page. This was habit I developed under 
Mavericks for those occasions I wanted to quickly get out of the Tool bar and 
this seems to work just as well under Yosemite.

As i say I will keep on trying to see if I can reproduce your problem.

David Griffith
   
> On 23 Dec 2014, at 20:04, Faisal ali  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I’m not sure if this has already been brought up but I think I found what 
> appears to be a bug in Safari. After doing a CMD Option b to bring up the 
> bookmarks folder for editing, everything works fine. But when doing the same 
> command of CMD option b to dismiss the editor, safari becomes unresponsive. 
> All I see is a scrolle  window with an empty HTML document. The only way to 
> restore Safari is by restarting it. Is anyone able to reproduce  this?
> Thanks
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Re: strange issue in Safari and bookmarks

[Lorie McCloud]

I’m having trouble getting to my bookmarks at all. even command-option-b won’t 
bring them up. if I go into the context menu and vo-right-arrow or left arrow 
it either doesn’t respond at all or I get a bonk. I wonder if that’s related. 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Faisal ali  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> I’m not sure if this has already been brought up but I think I found what 
> appears to be a bug in Safari. After doing a CMD Option b to bring up the 
> bookmarks folder for editing, everything works fine. But when doing the same 
> command of CMD option b to dismiss the editor, safari becomes unresponsive. 
> All I see is a scrolle  window with an empty HTML document. The only way to 
> restore Safari is by restarting it. Is anyone able to reproduce  this?
> Thanks
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Re: strange issue

[David Taylor]

Hi,

Whenever you get weird things like this, it's always worth quitting and 
restarting VoiceOver. Also, have you checked if you have any system dialogs? Do 
vo-f1 twice quickly, (written as VO-f1-f1) and if you have any system dialogs 
or notifications, right arrow into them, select them and act on them or close 
them. You will often find a scroll area to interact with to get details in 
these. 

Cheers
Dave

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> Hmm, yes it is off, but didn't fix the issue.
> 
> Weird!
> 
> May, RIP Prince Noah, May 31, 2009 to April 1, 2014
> www.canadianlynx.ca
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> On May 4, 2014, at 6:59 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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>> Do you have quick nav on? It sounds like you do, and are set to characters. 
>> Hit the left and right arrows together to turn it off.
>> On May 4, 2014, at 6:53 PM, May McDonald Homuth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Good day everyone.
>>> 
>>> i have this strange thing going on and I can't figure out how to unbreak it.
>>> 
>>> Whenever I'm on a website that requires me to enter in text like username 
>>> or address or things like that if I go back to look over what I put in with 
>>> the up and down arrows it is reading character by character and not the 
>>> line. If I do right and left arrows they will just say blank.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas on what some how broke and how to fix it?
>>> 
>>> May, RIP Prince Noah, May 31, 2009 to April 1, 2014
>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
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Re: strange issue

[May McDonald Homuth]

Hmm, yes it is off, but didn't fix the issue.

Weird!

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> Hit the left and right arrows together to turn it off.
> On May 4, 2014, at 6:53 PM, May McDonald Homuth  wrote:
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>> Good day everyone.
>> 
>> i have this strange thing going on and I can't figure out how to unbreak it.
>> 
>> Whenever I'm on a website that requires me to enter in text like username or 
>> address or things like that if I go back to look over what I put in with the 
>> up and down arrows it is reading character by character and not the line. If 
>> I do right and left arrows they will just say blank.
>> 
>> Any ideas on what some how broke and how to fix it?
>> 
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>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
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Re: strange issue

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Do you have quick nav on? It sounds like you do, and are set to characters. Hit 
the left and right arrows together to turn it off.
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> 
> i have this strange thing going on and I can't figure out how to unbreak it.
> 
> Whenever I'm on a website that requires me to enter in text like username or 
> address or things like that if I go back to look over what I put in with the 
> up and down arrows it is reading character by character and not the line. If 
> I do right and left arrows they will just say blank.
> 
> Any ideas on what some how broke and how to fix it?
> 
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Re: strange issue, please help

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

There should be no need to Interact with the actual folder or Alias.  As long 
as you navigate to the specific item and that item is selected, everything will 
work as outlined.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-09, at 2:24 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Gi,
> Thank you, both Tim & Nick for your specific instructions. I still have one 
> question. At any time during the process must one interact with the folder or 
> ailius?
> Thanks much
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Jun 9, 2013, at 2:15 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
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> Tim's instructions should work fine. If, however, you have any difficulties, 
> you can also try the following:
>   •Make an alias of whatever file you want to put on your desktop with 
> Command-L as Tim said.
>   •Press command-C on that alias to copy it.
>   •Navigate to your Home folder with Command-Shift-H.
>   •Press right arrow once to select your Desktop folder.
>   •Once you've selected the Desktop folder, press command-option-V to 
> move the alias to the desktop.
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Re: strange issue, please help

[ppowells09]

Gi,
Thank you, both Tim & Nick for your specific instructions. I still have one 
question. At any time during the process must one interact with the folder or 
ailius?
Thanks much

Pam Francis

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wrote:

Tim's instructions should work fine. If, however, you have any difficulties, 
you can also try the following:
   •Make an alias of whatever file you want to put on your desktop with 
Command-L as Tim said.
   •Press command-C on that alias to copy it.
   •Navigate to your Home folder with Command-Shift-H.
   •Press right arrow once to select your Desktop folder.
   •Once you've selected the Desktop folder, press command-option-V to move 
the alias to the desktop.

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Re: strange issue, please help

[Nicholas Parsons]

Tim's instructions should work fine. If, however, you have any difficulties, 
you can also try the following:
•   Make an alias of whatever file you want to put on your desktop 
with Command-L as Tim said.
•   Press command-C on that alias to copy it.
•   Navigate to your Home folder with Command-Shift-H.
•   Press right arrow once to select your Desktop folder.
•   Once you've selected the Desktop folder, press command-option-V 
to move the alias to the desktop.

Cheers,
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Re: strange issue, please help

[ppowells09]

Thank you Tim for your step by step instructions. Much appreciated.

Pam Francis

On Jun 8, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

The Applications folder is where all the apps are normally stored by default.  
Your Home folder is where your personal data is normally stored.  When in the 
Finder, cmd-shift-a takes you to your Applications folder and cmd-shift-h takes 
you to your Home folder.  Applications should remain in the Applications folder 
and, as you've mentioned, an alias is what needs placed on your Desktop.  
Moving the actual Application out of the Applications folder may cause strange 
behaviours.

So, when in the Finder,

• press cmd-shift-a to open your Applications folder.
• Navigate to the app you wish to make an alias for.
• Press cmd-l to make the alias.
4.  Press cmd-c on that alias.
5.  Navigate to your Desktop with VO-shift-d.
6.  Press cmd-option-v to Move the alias to your Desktop.

When on your Desktop, you can clean things up buy making sure that your Desktop 
is active then going up to the View menu and choosing Cleanup.  You can also 
have the icons on your Desktop quickly be cleaned up and alphabetized by 
pressing cmd-option-1.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-08, at 12:40 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hello &thank you,
> The tech told me to use my applications folder to find the given app I want 
> to create an ailius for. What is the difference in the applications folder & 
> the home folder? Please forgive my ignorance. Yes I have used the dock. 
> However, I changed my desktop background to allow for tthe contrast I need to 
> see where I am without turning on magnification. I am a vo user, yet have a 
> little vision. I want to maximize both assets. When one turns on the machine, 
> it lands on the desktop anyhow. Arrowing around to my most used apps would 
> save some keystrokes, yet allowing secondary apps to remain on my dock.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:54 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
> desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
> to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
> on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
> correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check 
> or uncheck to make this work properly?
> Please help. Anything would be appreciated.
> 
> Pam Francis
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Re: strange issue, please help

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The Applications folder is where all the apps are normally stored by default.  
Your Home folder is where your personal data is normally stored.  When in the 
Finder, cmd-shift-a takes you to your Applications folder and cmd-shift-h takes 
you to your Home folder.  Applications should remain in the Applications folder 
and, as you've mentioned, an alias is what needs placed on your Desktop.  
Moving the actual Application out of the Applications folder may cause strange 
behaviours.

So, when in the Finder,

• press cmd-shift-a to open your Applications folder.
• Navigate to the app you wish to make an alias for.
• Press cmd-l to make the alias.
4.  Press cmd-c on that alias.
5.  Navigate to your Desktop with VO-shift-d.
6.  Press cmd-option-v to Move the alias to your Desktop.

When on your Desktop, you can clean things up buy making sure that your Desktop 
is active then going up to the View menu and choosing Cleanup.  You can also 
have the icons on your Desktop quickly be cleaned up and alphabetized by 
pressing cmd-option-1.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-08, at 12:40 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hello &thank you,
> The tech told me to use my applications folder to find the given app I want 
> to create an ailius for. What is the difference in the applications folder & 
> the home folder? Please forgive my ignorance. Yes I have used the dock. 
> However, I changed my desktop background to allow for tthe contrast I need to 
> see where I am without turning on magnification. I am a vo user, yet have a 
> little vision. I want to maximize both assets. When one turns on the machine, 
> it lands on the desktop anyhow. Arrowing around to my most used apps would 
> save some keystrokes, yet allowing secondary apps to remain on my dock.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:54 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
> desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
> to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
> on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
> correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check 
> or uncheck to make this work properly?
> Please help. Anything would be appreciated.
> 
> Pam Francis
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Re: strange issue, please help

[ppowells09]

Hi 
I failed to answer a part of your question. Yes, the second ailius drops on the 
first.
Thanks much.

Pam Francis

On Jun 8, 2013, at 1:40 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

Hello &thank you,
The tech told me to use my applications folder to find the given app I want to 
create an ailius for. What is the difference in the applications folder & the 
home folder? Please forgive my ignorance. Yes I have used the dock. However, I 
changed my desktop background to allow for tthe contrast I need to see where I 
am without turning on magnification. I am a vo user, yet have a little vision. 
I want to maximize both assets. When one turns on the machine, it lands on the 
desktop anyhow. Arrowing around to my most used apps would save some 
keystrokes, yet allowing secondary apps to remain on my dock.

Pam Francis

On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:54 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check or 
uncheck to make this work properly?
Please help. Anything would be appreciated.

Pam Francis

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Re: strange issue, please help

[ppowells09]

Hello &thank you,
The tech told me to use my applications folder to find the given app I want to 
create an ailius for. What is the difference in the applications folder & the 
home folder? Please forgive my ignorance. Yes I have used the dock. However, I 
changed my desktop background to allow for tthe contrast I need to see where I 
am without turning on magnification. I am a vo user, yet have a little vision. 
I want to maximize both assets. When one turns on the machine, it lands on the 
desktop anyhow. Arrowing around to my most used apps would save some 
keystrokes, yet allowing secondary apps to remain on my dock.

Pam Francis

On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:54 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check or 
uncheck to make this work properly?
Please help. Anything would be appreciated.

Pam Francis

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Re: strange issue, please help

[Ray Foret jr]

Just thinking here.  Can you not just cut and paste the items you wish on the 
desk top folder right off your home folder?  I mean when you create the alious 
for one app, it goes to the desk top right?  So, when you create the second 
one, is that when you get the "second has droped on the first" thingy?  Another 
thought.  While I can see why you might want to do this for quickness of access 
to your favorite apps, why not just add these apps to the doc and save yourself 
a lot of trouble?  After all, it might have benefited to add apps to the desk 
top under the W operating system:  But, under the Mac, I can't really see much 
of an advantage to doing it this way.  Still, just thinking.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:54 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi folks, I am at my wits end. I want to put some of my most used app on my 
> desktop vs the dock.I understand how to create an ailius. However, when I try 
> to put more than one on my desktop, voiceover says the second one has dropped 
> on the first one. I have been on the accessibility support line to try to 
> correct the issue. They too, are puzzled. Is there a setting I have to check 
> or uncheck to make this work properly?
> Please help. Anything would be appreciated.
> 
> Pam Francis
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Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery

[John Panarese]

   I've had situations where the volume has been quite low.  I have no idea 
what effects it, but I would say that the volume is definitely lower than what 
you'd expect during the installation.  


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On May 1, 2013, at 4:05 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

> Tim, I don't recall it being all that low before restarting in recovery, but 
> you are correct in what you said about the p ram also helping.  After I wrote 
> the message to the list, I thought about that, and was like... dang it I feel 
> smart right about now!
>  
> Not?
>  
> Chris.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Tim Kilburn
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery
> 
> Chris,
> 
> First, your regular volume commands of F11/F12 are not usable in Recovery 
> mode or in ASR kinds of partitions.  That's normal behaviour.  Two ways to 
> get around this is to either press VO-cmd-right arro until you hear VO say 
> "volume", then press VO-cmd-up arrow to raise the volume.  Alternatively, you 
> can reset the PRAM which will put the volume back to a default level which is 
> likely at a more ear friendly level.  What probably happened is that her 
> computer volume was set really low when you restarted and entered the 
> Recovery partition so that's the level you get.
> 
> Hope this makes sense.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-05-01, at 10:36 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
>> I have a client who has brought me her 2009 white 13 inch macbook as she 
>> needed a recovery done of Mountain Lion and needed her drive wiped.  I'm not 
>> gonna go into the specifics, but her hard disk was pretty bad off, let's 
>> just put it that way.  Anyway, I've managed to get into the recovery, and 
>> with her help, we got the installation started, but here is my questino. The 
>> startup chime, as well as Voiceover with the Fred voices in the recovery is 
>> profoundly! quiet!  I can't hit F12 nor fn+F12 to bring it up any. Before 
>> you all say it's gonna be way quieter than it is when you're actually booted 
>> into the OS... I completely realize that, remember, I do this stuff for a 
>> living, but when I say quiet,  I mean quiet!  this sucker's barely! and 
>> I mean, barely! audible!  Putting my ear literally touching the plastic 
>> casing of the system doesn't even make it
>> intelligible.  What in the heck could be causing this.  She's paying me 
>> hourly to do this, and have left the system in my care while running some 
>> arrends.  I'm just wonderring if  there is anything maybe I coudl check 
>> that could be going wrong.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery

[Chris Gilland]

Tim, I don't recall it being all that low before restarting in recovery, but 
you are correct in what you said about the p ram also helping.  After I wrote 
the message to the list, I thought about that, and was like... dang it I feel 
smart right about now!

Not?

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Kilburn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery


  Chris,


  First, your regular volume commands of F11/F12 are not usable in Recovery 
mode or in ASR kinds of partitions.  That's normal behaviour.  Two ways to get 
around this is to either press VO-cmd-right arro until you hear VO say 
"volume", then press VO-cmd-up arrow to raise the volume.  Alternatively, you 
can reset the PRAM which will put the volume back to a default level which is 
likely at a more ear friendly level.  What probably happened is that her 
computer volume was set really low when you restarted and entered the Recovery 
partition so that's the level you get.


  Hope this makes sense.


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada


  On 2013-05-01, at 10:36 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:


I have a client who has brought me her 2009 white 13 inch macbook as she 
needed a recovery done of Mountain Lion and needed her drive wiped.  I'm not 
gonna go into the specifics, but her hard disk was pretty bad off, let's just 
put it that way.  Anyway, I've managed to get into the recovery, and with her 
help, we got the installation started, but here is my questino. The startup 
chime, as well as Voiceover with the Fred voices in the recovery is profoundly! 
quiet!  I can't hit F12 nor fn+F12 to bring it up any. Before you all say it's 
gonna be way quieter than it is when you're actually booted into the OS... I 
completely realize that, remember, I do this stuff for a living, but when I say 
quiet, I mean quiet!  this sucker's barely! and I mean, barely! audible!  
Putting my ear literally touching the plastic casing of the system doesn't even 
make it
intelligible.  What in the heck could be causing this.  She's paying me 
hourly to do this, and have left the system in my care while running some 
arrends.  I'm just wonderring if there is anything maybe I coudl check that 
could be going wrong.



Chris.



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Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery

[Chris Gilland]

It was incredibly quiet.  I still to this very minute don't know what on 
earth the issue was.


Once the installation finnished, the volume was perfect.  the startup chime 
went back to its normal volume, and the recovery volume also went back to 
normal.  I'm wonderring if something in the efi firmware may have middle 
mucked before the install was done.  God only knows.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Blouch" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery


Not sure why but how's the sound out the headphone jack?

CB

On 5/1/13 12:36 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
I have a client who has brought me her 2009 white 13 inch macbook as she 
needed a recovery done of Mountain Lion and needed her drive wiped. I'm 
not gonna go into the specifics, but her hard disk was pretty bad off, 
let's just put it that way. Anyway, I've managed to get into the recovery, 
and with her help, we got the installation started, but here is my 
questino. The startup chime, as well as Voiceover with the Fred voices in 
the recovery is profoundly! quiet! I can't hit F12 nor fn+F12 to bring it 
up any. Before you all say it's gonna be way quieter than it is when 
you're actually booted into the OS... I completely realize that, remember, 
I do this stuff for a living, but when I say quiet, I mean quiet! this 
sucker's barely! and I mean, barely! audible! Putting my ear literally 
touching the plastic casing of the system doesn't even make it
intelligible. What in the heck could be causing this. She's paying me 
hourly to do this, and have left the system in my care while running some 
arrends. I'm just wonderring if there is anything maybe I coudl check that 
could be going wrong.




Chris.





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Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Chris,

this happens all the time for me.  What I do is, Press VO Command left or right 
arrow until you get to the Voiceover volume.  Now, although its at 100%, press 
VO command up arrow.  You will here the system volume increase.

hth   

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 1, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> I have a client who has brought me her 2009 white 13 inch macbook as she 
> needed a recovery done of Mountain Lion and needed her drive wiped.  I'm not 
> gonna go into the specifics, but her hard disk was pretty bad off, let's just 
> put it that way.  Anyway, I've managed to get into the recovery, and with her 
> help, we got the installation started, but here is my questino. The startup 
> chime, as well as Voiceover with the Fred voices in the recovery is 
> profoundly! quiet!  I can't hit F12 nor fn+F12 to bring it up any. Before you 
> all say it's gonna be way quieter than it is when you're actually booted into 
> the OS... I completely realize that, remember, I do this stuff for a living, 
> but when I say quiet, I mean quiet!  this sucker's barely! and I mean, 
> barely! audible!  Putting my ear literally touching the plastic casing of the 
> system doesn't even make it
> intelligible.  What in the heck could be causing this.  She's paying me 
> hourly to do this, and have left the system in my care while running some 
> arrends.  I'm just wonderring if there is anything maybe I coudl check that 
> could be going wrong.
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
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Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery

[Tim Kilburn]

Chris,

First, your regular volume commands of F11/F12 are not usable in Recovery mode 
or in ASR kinds of partitions.  That's normal behaviour.  Two ways to get 
around this is to either press VO-cmd-right arro until you hear VO say 
"volume", then press VO-cmd-up arrow to raise the volume.  Alternatively, you 
can reset the PRAM which will put the volume back to a default level which is 
likely at a more ear friendly level.  What probably happened is that her 
computer volume was set really low when you restarted and entered the Recovery 
partition so that's the level you get.

Hope this makes sense.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> I have a client who has brought me her 2009 white 13 inch macbook as she 
> needed a recovery done of Mountain Lion and needed her drive wiped.  I'm not 
> gonna go into the specifics, but her hard disk was pretty bad off, let's just 
> put it that way.  Anyway, I've managed to get into the recovery, and with her 
> help, we got the installation started, but here is my questino. The startup 
> chime, as well as Voiceover with the Fred voices in the recovery is 
> profoundly! quiet!  I can't hit F12 nor fn+F12 to bring it up any. Before you 
> all say it's gonna be way quieter than it is when you're actually booted into 
> the OS... I completely realize that, remember, I do this stuff for a living, 
> but when I say quiet, I mean quiet!  this sucker's barely! and I mean, 
> barely! audible!  Putting my ear literally touching the plastic casing of the 
> system doesn't even make it
> intelligible.  What in the heck could be causing this.  She's paying me 
> hourly to do this, and have left the system in my care while running some 
> arrends.  I'm just wonderring if there is anything maybe I coudl check that 
> could be going wrong.
> 
> 
> 
> Chris.
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Re: Strange issue with Mountain Lion Recovery

[Chris Blouch]

Not sure why but how's the sound out the headphone jack?

CB

On 5/1/13 12:36 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
I have a client who has brought me her 2009 white 13 inch macbook as 
she needed a recovery done of Mountain Lion and needed her drive 
wiped. I'm not gonna go into the specifics, but her hard disk was 
pretty bad off, let's just put it that way. Anyway, I've managed to 
get into the recovery, and with her help, we got the installation 
started, but here is my questino. The startup chime, as well as 
Voiceover with the Fred voices in the recovery is profoundly! quiet! I 
can't hit F12 nor fn+F12 to bring it up any. Before you all say it's 
gonna be way quieter than it is when you're actually booted into the 
OS... I completely realize that, remember, I do this stuff for a 
living, but when I say quiet, I mean quiet! this sucker's barely! and 
I mean, barely! audible! Putting my ear literally touching the plastic 
casing of the system doesn't even make it
intelligible. What in the heck could be causing this. She's paying me 
hourly to do this, and have left the system in my care while running 
some arrends. I'm just wonderring if there is anything maybe I coudl 
check that could be going wrong.




Chris.





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Re: Strange issue with roland juno G and windows side

[Matt Dierckens]

Nope. Just install the juno g driver for lion, set your USB mode to midi, and 
your all set.

Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2011-09-21, at 10:51 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Really? I'll have to try that. I had been putting it off because I thought 
> I'd need a MIDI interface and hadn't had the time to slog through all the 
> various options.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 9/20/11 5:02 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
>> 
>> I'm glad that you've got a g as well. Its a great keyboard. You just hook it 
>> in using the USB port.
>> Matt
>> Sent from my macbook pro
>> 
>> On 2011-09-20, at 3:50 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a Juno G but haven't tried to hook it to the Mac yet. So do you use 
>>> a USB MIDI controller or can you hook it up directly via the USB port?
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 9/18/11 8:44 PM, James Malone wrote:
 I actually think its a driver issue. Roland did say that you couldn't
 actually use it on a Mac running Windows, and that they won't support
 it. That goes with any Roland driver.
 
 On 9/19/11, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a roland juno g keyboard which I can use perfectly fine on the mac
> side using garage band. Seing as I can't figure out how to use the juno's
> instruments with gb, I use qws on the widnows side with vm fusion. Problem
> is, I can only use qws on the windows side with the juno g for about 20
> minutes and then the thing just stops responding to key presses. But I can
> use the on screen keyboard just fine. So I'm not sure what the heck to do
> about this, as I can't seem to use the instruments with gb.
> If anyone has this keyboard and has this issue or can hep me resolve this
> please let me know.
> Thanks
> 
> Matt
> Sent from my macbook pro
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Re: Strange issue with roland juno G and windows side

[Chris Blouch]

Really? I'll have to try that. I had been putting it off because I 
thought I'd need a MIDI interface and hadn't had the time to slog 
through all the various options.


CB

On 9/20/11 5:02 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
I'm glad that you've got a g as well. Its a great keyboard. You just 
hook it in using the USB port.

Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2011-09-20, at 3:50 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

I have a Juno G but haven't tried to hook it to the Mac yet. So do 
you use a USB MIDI controller or can you hook it up directly via the 
USB port?


CB

On 9/18/11 8:44 PM, James Malone wrote:

I actually think its a driver issue. Roland did say that you couldn't
actually use it on a Mac running Windows, and that they won't support
it. That goes with any Roland driver.

On 9/19/11, Matt Dierckens>  wrote:

Hi all,
I have a roland juno g keyboard which I can use perfectly fine on 
the mac
side using garage band. Seing as I can't figure out how to use the 
juno's
instruments with gb, I use qws on the widnows side with vm fusion. 
Problem

is, I can only use qws on the windows side with the juno g for about 20
minutes and then the thing just stops responding to key presses. 
But I can
use the on screen keyboard just fine. So I'm not sure what the heck 
to do

about this, as I can't seem to use the instruments with gb.
If anyone has this keyboard and has this issue or can hep me 
resolve this

please let me know.
Thanks

Matt
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Re: Strange issue with roland juno G and windows side

[Matt Dierckens]

I'm glad that you've got a g as well. Its a great keyboard. You just hook it in 
using the USB port.
Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2011-09-20, at 3:50 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> I have a Juno G but haven't tried to hook it to the Mac yet. So do you use a 
> USB MIDI controller or can you hook it up directly via the USB port?
> 
> CB
> 
> On 9/18/11 8:44 PM, James Malone wrote:
>> I actually think its a driver issue. Roland did say that you couldn't
>> actually use it on a Mac running Windows, and that they won't support
>> it. That goes with any Roland driver.
>> 
>> On 9/19/11, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I have a roland juno g keyboard which I can use perfectly fine on the mac
>>> side using garage band. Seing as I can't figure out how to use the juno's
>>> instruments with gb, I use qws on the widnows side with vm fusion. Problem
>>> is, I can only use qws on the windows side with the juno g for about 20
>>> minutes and then the thing just stops responding to key presses. But I can
>>> use the on screen keyboard just fine. So I'm not sure what the heck to do
>>> about this, as I can't seem to use the instruments with gb.
>>> If anyone has this keyboard and has this issue or can hep me resolve this
>>> please let me know.
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Matt
>>> Sent from my macbook pro
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Re: Strange issue with roland juno G and windows side

[Chris Blouch]

I have a Juno G but haven't tried to hook it to the Mac yet. So do you 
use a USB MIDI controller or can you hook it up directly via the USB port?


CB

On 9/18/11 8:44 PM, James Malone wrote:

I actually think its a driver issue. Roland did say that you couldn't
actually use it on a Mac running Windows, and that they won't support
it. That goes with any Roland driver.

On 9/19/11, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

Hi all,
I have a roland juno g keyboard which I can use perfectly fine on the mac
side using garage band. Seing as I can't figure out how to use the juno's
instruments with gb, I use qws on the widnows side with vm fusion. Problem
is, I can only use qws on the windows side with the juno g for about 20
minutes and then the thing just stops responding to key presses. But I can
use the on screen keyboard just fine. So I'm not sure what the heck to do
about this, as I can't seem to use the instruments with gb.
If anyone has this keyboard and has this issue or can hep me resolve this
please let me know.
Thanks

Matt
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Re: Strange issue with roland juno G and windows side

[James Malone]

I actually think its a driver issue. Roland did say that you couldn't
actually use it on a Mac running Windows, and that they won't support
it. That goes with any Roland driver.

On 9/19/11, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a roland juno g keyboard which I can use perfectly fine on the mac
> side using garage band. Seing as I can't figure out how to use the juno's
> instruments with gb, I use qws on the widnows side with vm fusion. Problem
> is, I can only use qws on the windows side with the juno g for about 20
> minutes and then the thing just stops responding to key presses. But I can
> use the on screen keyboard just fine. So I'm not sure what the heck to do
> about this, as I can't seem to use the instruments with gb.
> If anyone has this keyboard and has this issue or can hep me resolve this
> please let me know.
> Thanks
>
> Matt
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Re: Strange Issue with Macbook Pro

[Eric Oyen]

I hope you have one close by.

-Eric

On Dec 26, 2010, at 4:11 PM, dan wrote:

> No reset button on this 1, thanks anyway!  It looks like a trip to the apple 
> store for sure!
> 
> 
> On Dec 26, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> 
>> the pram may need to be reset. there should be a recessed reset button 
>> somewhere on the back of that machine. mind you, I am operating from the old 
>> powerbook instructions so it might not be correct.
>> 
>> you might also see if there is anyone in your area with the same model and 
>> see if their charger works. if it does, then your charger is dead. if not, 
>> then its something inside your MBP that needs to be reset or replaced.
>> 
>> -Eric
>> 
>> On Dec 26, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Dan Roy wrote:
>> 
>>> This isn't Vo related, however, it is definitely Apple!  This might be a 
>>> bit off-topic fir this list.  However, this type of thing has come up 
>>> before and people have been willing to help. I hope, in this case, someone 
>>> has an answer.
>>> 
>>> Recently, there was a thread on battery maintenance, and, just like Apple 
>>> suggests, once a month, i leave the macbook pro on battery power until the 
>>> battery completely drains.  Well, I have done this several times and no 
>>> issues.  thursday night, I did the same as usual and left the macbook 
>>> running on battery power.  I had it streaming something so it wouldn't go 
>>> to sleep.  however, the only thing different this time was that I got busy 
>>> the next day and didn't come back to check it until yesterday morning.  
>>> Well, of course, as expected, it was totally dead. So, as usual, I plugged 
>>> in the charger and attempted to power up.  The macbook wouldn't turn on at 
>>> all.  It acted like it would if the battery was dead, but, the charger was 
>>> powered on now!  Well, it was Christmas and I didn't have a great deal of 
>>> time to mess with it.  So, I left the charger connected and went about my 
>>> Christmas activities.  I came back to it last night, the same thing, 
>>> totally dead.  I removed the charger and tried a different AC outlet with 
>>> the vary same results.
>>> 
>>> i checked things out with my sighted spouse, she said no charger light, 
>>> nothing at all.  So, I have no idea what could have happened.  i know, the 
>>> charger could have suddenly gone bad or any number of other things as well. 
>>>  Before I fight the madness at the apple store, I wanted to check to see if 
>>> anyone here has ever experienced something like this and, if so, what if 
>>> anything did you try to solve the problem.
>>> 
>>> Again, the MBp was working just fine until I ran the battery all the way 
>>> down.  I have done this several times before.  The only thing different was 
>>> i left it on long after the battery had gone dead.  This shouldn't make any 
>>> difference because, usually, the MBP just shuts down when the battery power 
>>> is to low.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas at all would be appreciated, thanks!
>>> 
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Re: Strange Issue with Macbook Pro

[dan]

No reset button on this 1, thanks anyway!  It looks like a trip to the apple 
store for sure!


On Dec 26, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> the pram may need to be reset. there should be a recessed reset button 
> somewhere on the back of that machine. mind you, I am operating from the old 
> powerbook instructions so it might not be correct.
> 
> you might also see if there is anyone in your area with the same model and 
> see if their charger works. if it does, then your charger is dead. if not, 
> then its something inside your MBP that needs to be reset or replaced.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Dec 26, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Dan Roy wrote:
> 
>> This isn't Vo related, however, it is definitely Apple!  This might be a bit 
>> off-topic fir this list.  However, this type of thing has come up before and 
>> people have been willing to help. I hope, in this case, someone has an 
>> answer.
>> 
>> Recently, there was a thread on battery maintenance, and, just like Apple 
>> suggests, once a month, i leave the macbook pro on battery power until the 
>> battery completely drains.  Well, I have done this several times and no 
>> issues.  thursday night, I did the same as usual and left the macbook 
>> running on battery power.  I had it streaming something so it wouldn't go to 
>> sleep.  however, the only thing different this time was that I got busy the 
>> next day and didn't come back to check it until yesterday morning.  Well, of 
>> course, as expected, it was totally dead. So, as usual, I plugged in the 
>> charger and attempted to power up.  The macbook wouldn't turn on at all.  It 
>> acted like it would if the battery was dead, but, the charger was powered on 
>> now!  Well, it was Christmas and I didn't have a great deal of time to mess 
>> with it.  So, I left the charger connected and went about my Christmas 
>> activities.  I came back to it last night, the same thing, totally dead.  I 
>> removed the charger and tried a different AC outlet with the vary same 
>> results.
>> 
>> i checked things out with my sighted spouse, she said no charger light, 
>> nothing at all.  So, I have no idea what could have happened.  i know, the 
>> charger could have suddenly gone bad or any number of other things as well.  
>> Before I fight the madness at the apple store, I wanted to check to see if 
>> anyone here has ever experienced something like this and, if so, what if 
>> anything did you try to solve the problem.
>> 
>> Again, the MBp was working just fine until I ran the battery all the way 
>> down.  I have done this several times before.  The only thing different was 
>> i left it on long after the battery had gone dead.  This shouldn't make any 
>> difference because, usually, the MBP just shuts down when the battery power 
>> is to low.
>> 
>> Any ideas at all would be appreciated, thanks!
>> 
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Re: Strange Issue with Macbook Pro

[dan]

It said to disconnect the power source, hold down the power button for 5 
seconds and then reconnect the charger, nothing, no power, zero response.  I do 
appreciate the help!


On Dec 26, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Braille wrote:

> You might try to reset the SMC, or system Manager Controller. This is like 
> CMoS setup reset on the pc side. Different machine has different way of doing 
> this. So visit the following link, find your machine, and follow the 
> instruction.
> This does not harm your system by any means.
> 
> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964
> On Dec 26, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Dan Roy wrote:
> 
>> This isn't Vo related, however, it is definitely Apple!  This might be a bit 
>> off-topic fir this list.  However, this type of thing has come up before and 
>> people have been willing to help. I hope, in this case, someone has an 
>> answer.
>> 
>> Recently, there was a thread on battery maintenance, and, just like Apple 
>> suggests, once a month, i leave the macbook pro on battery power until the 
>> battery completely drains.  Well, I have done this several times and no 
>> issues.  thursday night, I did the same as usual and left the macbook 
>> running on battery power.  I had it streaming something so it wouldn't go to 
>> sleep.  however, the only thing different this time was that I got busy the 
>> next day and didn't come back to check it until yesterday morning.  Well, of 
>> course, as expected, it was totally dead. So, as usual, I plugged in the 
>> charger and attempted to power up.  The macbook wouldn't turn on at all.  It 
>> acted like it would if the battery was dead, but, the charger was powered on 
>> now!  Well, it was Christmas and I didn't have a great deal of time to mess 
>> with it.  So, I left the charger connected and went about my Christmas 
>> activities.  I came back to it last night, the same thing, totally dead.  I 
>> removed the charger and tried a different AC outlet with the vary same 
>> results.
>> 
>> i checked things out with my sighted spouse, she said no charger light, 
>> nothing at all.  So, I have no idea what could have happened.  i know, the 
>> charger could have suddenly gone bad or any number of other things as well.  
>> Before I fight the madness at the apple store, I wanted to check to see if 
>> anyone here has ever experienced something like this and, if so, what if 
>> anything did you try to solve the problem.
>> 
>> Again, the MBp was working just fine until I ran the battery all the way 
>> down.  I have done this several times before.  The only thing different was 
>> i left it on long after the battery had gone dead.  This shouldn't make any 
>> difference because, usually, the MBP just shuts down when the battery power 
>> is to low.
>> 
>> Any ideas at all would be appreciated, thanks!
>> 
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Re: Strange Issue with Macbook Pro

[Eric Oyen]

the pram may need to be reset. there should be a recessed reset button 
somewhere on the back of that machine. mind you, I am operating from the old 
powerbook instructions so it might not be correct.

you might also see if there is anyone in your area with the same model and see 
if their charger works. if it does, then your charger is dead. if not, then its 
something inside your MBP that needs to be reset or replaced.

-Eric

On Dec 26, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Dan Roy wrote:

> This isn't Vo related, however, it is definitely Apple!  This might be a bit 
> off-topic fir this list.  However, this type of thing has come up before and 
> people have been willing to help. I hope, in this case, someone has an answer.
> 
> Recently, there was a thread on battery maintenance, and, just like Apple 
> suggests, once a month, i leave the macbook pro on battery power until the 
> battery completely drains.  Well, I have done this several times and no 
> issues.  thursday night, I did the same as usual and left the macbook running 
> on battery power.  I had it streaming something so it wouldn't go to sleep.  
> however, the only thing different this time was that I got busy the next day 
> and didn't come back to check it until yesterday morning.  Well, of course, 
> as expected, it was totally dead. So, as usual, I plugged in the charger and 
> attempted to power up.  The macbook wouldn't turn on at all.  It acted like 
> it would if the battery was dead, but, the charger was powered on now!  Well, 
> it was Christmas and I didn't have a great deal of time to mess with it.  So, 
> I left the charger connected and went about my Christmas activities.  I came 
> back to it last night, the same thing, totally dead.  I removed the charger 
> and tried a different AC outlet with the vary same results.
> 
> i checked things out with my sighted spouse, she said no charger light, 
> nothing at all.  So, I have no idea what could have happened.  i know, the 
> charger could have suddenly gone bad or any number of other things as well.  
> Before I fight the madness at the apple store, I wanted to check to see if 
> anyone here has ever experienced something like this and, if so, what if 
> anything did you try to solve the problem.
> 
> Again, the MBp was working just fine until I ran the battery all the way 
> down.  I have done this several times before.  The only thing different was i 
> left it on long after the battery had gone dead.  This shouldn't make any 
> difference because, usually, the MBP just shuts down when the battery power 
> is to low.
> 
> Any ideas at all would be appreciated, thanks!
> 
> 
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Re: Strange Issue with Macbook Pro

[Braille]

You might try to reset the SMC, or system Manager Controller. This is like CMoS 
setup reset on the pc side. Different machine has different way of doing this. 
So visit the following link, find your machine, and follow the instruction.
This does not harm your system by any means.

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964
On Dec 26, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Dan Roy wrote:

> This isn't Vo related, however, it is definitely Apple!  This might be a bit 
> off-topic fir this list.  However, this type of thing has come up before and 
> people have been willing to help. I hope, in this case, someone has an answer.
> 
> Recently, there was a thread on battery maintenance, and, just like Apple 
> suggests, once a month, i leave the macbook pro on battery power until the 
> battery completely drains.  Well, I have done this several times and no 
> issues.  thursday night, I did the same as usual and left the macbook running 
> on battery power.  I had it streaming something so it wouldn't go to sleep.  
> however, the only thing different this time was that I got busy the next day 
> and didn't come back to check it until yesterday morning.  Well, of course, 
> as expected, it was totally dead. So, as usual, I plugged in the charger and 
> attempted to power up.  The macbook wouldn't turn on at all.  It acted like 
> it would if the battery was dead, but, the charger was powered on now!  Well, 
> it was Christmas and I didn't have a great deal of time to mess with it.  So, 
> I left the charger connected and went about my Christmas activities.  I came 
> back to it last night, the same thing, totally dead.  I removed the charger 
> and tried a different AC outlet with the vary same results.
> 
> i checked things out with my sighted spouse, she said no charger light, 
> nothing at all.  So, I have no idea what could have happened.  i know, the 
> charger could have suddenly gone bad or any number of other things as well.  
> Before I fight the madness at the apple store, I wanted to check to see if 
> anyone here has ever experienced something like this and, if so, what if 
> anything did you try to solve the problem.
> 
> Again, the MBp was working just fine until I ran the battery all the way 
> down.  I have done this several times before.  The only thing different was i 
> left it on long after the battery had gone dead.  This shouldn't make any 
> difference because, usually, the MBP just shuts down when the battery power 
> is to low.
> 
> Any ideas at all would be appreciated, thanks!
> 
> 
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Re: strange issue with adium

[Peggy Fleischer]

I agree, the first time I loaded the update adium did some strange  
thing and took for ever to load but it has corrected now.

I really don't know what caused it to fix itself though.
On Jun 12, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:

>
> The same thing happened to me, after I installed 10.5.7. Mail was also
> doing weird things, but somehow everything out of normal stopped
> happening at some point. Everything is perfect for me now. Isn't it
> weird?
> On Jun 12, 2009, at 7:32 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all. Has anyone else had problems with adium recently? I have the
>> newest version, and am using the default server, I think it's hot
>> mail. Anyway, it some times takes a really long time to connect, and
>> some times doesn't connect at all. It was working fine before this
>> started, and I haven't changed anything. I did try deleting and  
>> adding
>> the account again but that didn't help.
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: strange issue with adium

[Wendy Mitchell]

Hi Mike, the only problem i'm having with adium is that is started  
reading the time by every message which is really annoying, I'm not  
having any problem connecting, its connecting immediately.Î

 From Wendy.
On 13 Jun 2009, at 00:32, Mike Arrigo wrote:

>
> Hi all. Has anyone else had problems with adium recently? I have the
> newest version, and am using the default server, I think it's hot
> mail. Anyway, it some times takes a really long time to connect, and
> some times doesn't connect at all. It was working fine before this
> started, and I haven't changed anything. I did try deleting and adding
> the account again but that didn't help.
>
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Re: strange issue with adium

[Ignasi Cambra]

The same thing happened to me, after I installed 10.5.7. Mail was also  
doing weird things, but somehow everything out of normal stopped  
happening at some point. Everything is perfect for me now. Isn't it  
weird?
On Jun 12, 2009, at 7:32 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

>
> Hi all. Has anyone else had problems with adium recently? I have the
> newest version, and am using the default server, I think it's hot
> mail. Anyway, it some times takes a really long time to connect, and
> some times doesn't connect at all. It was working fine before this
> started, and I haven't changed anything. I did try deleting and adding
> the account again but that didn't help.
>
> >


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