RE: Flash player app

[Jennifer Parry]

Hi Simon
I had not thought to try VlLC. Will try it out and let you know.

Regards
Jennifer Parry

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Sent: Saturday, 18 November 2017 10:18 PM
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Subject: RE: Flash player app

I'm not sure but yeah as stated flash isn't working on mac computers these days,

 But does VLC let you play flash  videos?
I use vlc on both windows and mac pretty much for everything.
 But I can't say flash related videos is something I really look for .


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Subject: Re: Flash player app

Adobe flash is not accessible on the mac, and it's unlikely that this will be 
improved since Flash is a dying breed. Best thing to do is contact the web site 
and ask them to switch to HTML 5 and move away from relying on flash.
Original message:
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> Does anyone know of an accessible media player that will play flash. 
> Trying to watch a tv catch up service program, and it keeps telling me 
> that I need a flash player plugin to play the video file.
> Thanks for your help.

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Re: Flash player app

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Flash works fine on the Mac.  The limitation is mostly for VO users due to the 
poor accessibility of the product.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 18, 2017, at 04:17, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

I'm not sure but yeah as stated flash isn't working on mac computers these days,

But does VLC let you play flash  videos?
I use vlc on both windows and mac pretty much for everything.
But I can't say flash related videos is something I really look for .


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Subject: Re: Flash player app

Adobe flash is not accessible on the mac, and it's unlikely that this will be 
improved since Flash is a dying breed. Best thing to do is contact the web site 
and ask them to switch to HTML 5 and move away from relying on flash.
Original message:
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> Does anyone know of an accessible media player that will play flash. 
> Trying to watch a tv catch up service program, and it keeps telling me 
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> Thanks for your help.

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RE: Flash player app

[Simon Fogarty]

I'm not sure but yeah as stated flash isn't working on mac computers these days,

 But does VLC let you play flash  videos?
I use vlc on both windows and mac pretty much for everything.
 But I can't say flash related videos is something I really look for .


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Subject: Re: Flash player app

Adobe flash is not accessible on the mac, and it's unlikely that this will be 
improved since Flash is a dying breed. Best thing to do is contact the web site 
and ask them to switch to HTML 5 and move away from relying on flash.
Original message:
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> Does anyone know of an accessible media player that will play flash. 
> Trying to watch a tv catch up service program, and it keeps telling me 
> that I need a flash player plugin to play the video file.
> Thanks for your help.

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Re: Flash player app

[jennifer parry]

Hi Mike
Thank you for this, I will contact them.

regards
Jennifer Parry


> On 18 Nov 2017, at 9:42 am, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Adobe flash is not accessible on the mac, and it's unlikely that this will be 
> improved since Flash is a dying breed. Best thing to do is contact the web 
> site and ask them to switch to HTML 5 and move away from relying on flash.
> Original message:
>> Hello all
>> Does anyone know of an accessible media player that will play flash. Trying 
>> to watch a tv catch up service program, and it keeps telling me that I need 
>> a flash player plugin to play the video file.
>> Thanks for your help.
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Re: Flash player app

[Mike Arrigo]

Adobe flash is not accessible on the mac, and it's unlikely that this 
will be improved since Flash is a dying breed. Best thing to do is 
contact the web site and ask them to switch to HTML 5 and move away 
from relying on flash.

Original message:

Hello all
Does anyone know of an accessible media player that will play flash. 
Trying to watch a tv catch up service program, and it keeps telling me 
that I need a flash player plugin to play the video file.

Thanks for your help.



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Re: Flash Player

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Depends on what the site is using to send their audio. With HTML5 it's 
no longer a requirement to use a plugin for audio or video but some 
sites still do it the old school way. The nice thing is you can add 
exceptions by domain to the flash plugin list.


CB

On 7/8/15 2:08 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:

Chris,

Just wanted to ask, if one disables flash in safari, can you still listen to 
audio and tv streams like radio stations or tv stations?  I know it would be 
preferable to have flash disabled because of security issues but I don't want 
to lose the ability to listen to radio and tv stations in my browser.  Is there 
an alternative?  I have flip4mac on my macbook pro as well.  Will this deliver 
what I want?

Andrew

On 8 Jul 2015, at 17:50, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
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With Flash only being used in the browser, it might make sense to just disable 
it in the Security settings of Safari in the Allow Plug-ins Website Settings. 
It actually allows you block the Adobe Flash Player generally while allowing it 
to work on certain other sites such as youtube.com.

CB

On 7/7/15 5:58 PM, Angus MacKinnon wrote:

Shaf

Thank you. I went to System Preferences and Shift + Tab to Flash. I then did a 
VO + Cmd F5 to move the mouse cursor to Flash and then did a left mouse click. 
I only get a option to remove Preference Pane and then entered my admin 
password.

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Re: Flash Player

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

With Flash only being used in the browser, it might make sense to just 
disable it in the Security settings of Safari in the Allow Plug-ins 
Website Settings. It actually allows you block the Adobe Flash Player 
generally while allowing it to work on certain other sites such as 
youtube.com.


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On 7/7/15 5:58 PM, Angus MacKinnon wrote:

Shaf

Thank you. I went to System Preferences and Shift + Tab to Flash. I then did a 
VO + Cmd F5 to move the mouse cursor to Flash and then did a left mouse click. 
I only get a option to remove Preference Pane and then entered my admin 
password.

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Re: Flash Player

[Andrew Lamanche]

Chris,

Just wanted to ask, if one disables flash in safari, can you still listen to 
audio and tv streams like radio stations or tv stations?  I know it would be 
preferable to have flash disabled because of security issues but I don't want 
to lose the ability to listen to radio and tv stations in my browser.  Is there 
an alternative?  I have flip4mac on my macbook pro as well.  Will this deliver 
what I want?

Andrew
 On 8 Jul 2015, at 17:50, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 With Flash only being used in the browser, it might make sense to just 
 disable it in the Security settings of Safari in the Allow Plug-ins Website 
 Settings. It actually allows you block the Adobe Flash Player generally while 
 allowing it to work on certain other sites such as youtube.com.
 
 CB
 
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 Shaf
 
 Thank you. I went to System Preferences and Shift + Tab to Flash. I then did 
 a VO + Cmd F5 to move the mouse cursor to Flash and then did a left mouse 
 click. I only get a option to remove Preference Pane and then entered my 
 admin password.
 
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Re: Flash Player

[Shaf]

You probably shouldn't, but if you really want to:
System Preferences, shift tab to Flash Player, VO/CMD-f5, press on the 
trackpad and remove pref pain.


On 7/7/2015 9:11 PM, Angus MacKinnon wrote:

At one point I needed Adobe Flash Player. Now I am not using Adobe Flash 
Player. How do I remove Adobe Flash Player on my OS 10.9.5 iMac? Thank you.

Vaquero and the human Angus



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Re: Flash Player

[Angus MacKinnon]

Shaf

Thank you. I went to System Preferences and Shift + Tab to Flash. I then did a 
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I only get a option to remove Preference Pane and then entered my admin 
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Re: Flash player on mac that works with VO

[Buddy Brannan]

There ain't one. The closest you're going to get is to install Adobe Flash 
Player, which you have to sort of work around to install, and then install the 
click2flash plugin. With this, at least some flash players turn into accessible 
player toolbars, though not all. Not even most.
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 Hi all. Does anyone have any recommendations for an accessible flash player 
 for the mac?
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Flash player on mac that works with VO

[Mario Navarro]

hi.
I am using only HTML5.
I dont need flash.
on youtube, HTML5 is great.
works perfectly.
on the other tasks I am using HTML5 to.
so far so good.
cheers.




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 Hi all. Does anyone have any recommendations for an accessible flash player 
 for the mac?
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Flash player on mac that works with VO

[Daniel McGee]

Or you could use Google Crome.
It works very well with Voiceover and has the flash player already built in. So 
you wouldn’t need to install it separately.

hth

Daniel
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 hi.
 I am using only HTML5.
 I dont need flash.
 on youtube, HTML5 is great.
 works perfectly.
 on the other tasks I am using HTML5 to.
 so far so good.
 cheers.
 
 
 
 
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 Mario Navarro
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 Hi all. Does anyone have any recommendations for an accessible flash player 
 for the mac?
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Flash Player

[Christine Grassman]

Teresa, when you say that flash is displayed, you are talking about the 
particular web site, correct? Essentially, if the word flash appears on a web 
site, I should be able to hit vo space, and content should be visible, or begin 
playing? This is only happening about 25 percent of the time. Can anyone give 
me pointers on how to tell whether my click to flash is installed properly? 
Thanks.
Christine
 
On Nov 10, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, Christine,
 
 If you have the ClickToFlash or ClickToPlugin Safari extension installed, it 
 will display a placeholder with the word flash. Do a vO-mouse-click on it 
 (VO-shift-space and the content should start playing. The ClickTo extensions 
 also have a shortcut key to allow flash permanently in particular web 
 domains. You can use command-control-w to do this.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 On Nov 10, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 On a related note, I've installed Flash -- at least I believe I have, and it 
 doesn't always work. Sometimes, I'll see the word flash and a video or 
 text will be accessible, and other times there is nothing. Any 
 thoughts/suggesitons?
 Christine
 On Nov 10, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Ben Constantini ben.n2...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 Hi, I am kind of new to the mac , but I had to download  FlashPlayer to my 
 mac when I first bought it.   Now it is located in my system preferences. 
 Every once in a while a window appears and asks me to update.  I hope this 
 is some help to you.
 
 
 Ben Constantini
 ben.n2...@verizon.net
 Sent from my Mac
 
 On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:54 PM, Agent086b wrote:
 
 Hello, I assume Safari has Adobe Flash Player installed. If this is the 
 case how can I find out what version I have? I am aware Adobe has just 
 released a new version of that program!
 Thanks for any advice.
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Re: Flash Player

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

To check your version of Flash, go into the Flash Player pane of your System 
Prefs.  Select the Advance tab and Interact with the Advanced Scroll area.

Later..

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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Re: Flash Player

[Ben Constantini]

Hi, I am kind of new to the mac , but I had to download  FlashPlayer to my mac 
when I first bought it.   Now it is located in my system preferences. Every 
once in a while a window appears and asks me to update.  I hope this is some 
help to you.


Ben Constantini
ben.n2...@verizon.net
Sent from my Mac

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Re: Flash Player

[Christine Grassman]

On a related note, I've installed Flash -- at least I believe I have, and it 
doesn't always work. Sometimes, I'll see the word flash and a video or text 
will be accessible, and other times there is nothing. Any thoughts/suggesitons?
Christine
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 Hi, I am kind of new to the mac , but I had to download  FlashPlayer to my 
 mac when I first bought it.   Now it is located in my system preferences. 
 Every once in a while a window appears and asks me to update.  I hope this is 
 some help to you.
 
 
 Ben Constantini
 ben.n2...@verizon.net
 Sent from my Mac
 
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Re: Flash Player

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Christine,

If you have the ClickToFlash or ClickToPlugin Safari extension installed, it 
will display a placeholder with the word flash. Do a vO-mouse-click on it 
(VO-shift-space and the content should start playing. The ClickTo extensions 
also have a shortcut key to allow flash permanently in particular web domains. 
You can use command-control-w to do this.

HtH,
Teresa

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wrote:

 On a related note, I've installed Flash -- at least I believe I have, and it 
 doesn't always work. Sometimes, I'll see the word flash and a video or text 
 will be accessible, and other times there is nothing. Any 
 thoughts/suggesitons?
 Christine
 On Nov 10, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Ben Constantini ben.n2...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 Hi, I am kind of new to the mac , but I had to download  FlashPlayer to my 
 mac when I first bought it.   Now it is located in my system preferences. 
 Every once in a while a window appears and asks me to update.  I hope this 
 is some help to you.
 
 
 Ben Constantini
 ben.n2...@verizon.net
 Sent from my Mac
 
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Re: flash player question

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi,
Max:

Yes, they will. However, use Video For Everybody and avoid the issue  
all together. Did you not receive my private E-mail on the matter?

Regards,
Alex,


On 2-Jul-09, at 12:16 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:


 Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
 whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The
 reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
 video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
 flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about using
 a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to
 put something on my website that exclused people just because they
 aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.
 thank you, Max

 


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Re: flash player question

[Chris Blouch]

Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some 
accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even 
then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5 
supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't tried 
that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the page 
and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of code 
which does this:

object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B 
codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; width=335 
height=312 id=movie2
param name=src value=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
param name=qtsrc 
value=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
param name=autoplay value=false
embed src=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4 
qtsrc=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil autoplay=false 
width=335 height=312 
pluginspage=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/; 
enablejavascript=true name=movie2
/object
div
a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Play();return falsePlay good form 
markup video/a
a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Stop();return falseStop good form 
markup video/a
/div

You probably could do something similar for flash but the video player 
you use would need to enable control by javascript.

Hope this helps.

CB

Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about  
 whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The  
 reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a  
 video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a  
 flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about using  
 a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to  
 put something on my website that exclused people just because they  
 aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.   
 thank you, Max 

 
   

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Re: flash player question

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't like  
the idea of running something on my site that I can't use myself.  I  
finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4  
files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the trick  
very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my site,  
but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if someone  
would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what  
they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


 Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
 accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
 then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
 supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't  
 tried
 that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the  
 page
 and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of  
 code
 which does this:

 object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
 codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; width=335
 height=312 id=movie2
param name=src value=/videos/accessibility/ 
 JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
param name=qtsrc
 value=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
param name=autoplay value=false
embed src=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
 qtsrc=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil  
 autoplay=false
 width=335 height=312
 pluginspage=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
 enablejavascript=true name=movie2
 /object
 div
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Play();return falsePlay good  
 form
 markup video/a
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Stop();return falseStop good  
 form
 markup video/a
 /div

 You probably could do something similar for flash but the video player
 you use would need to enable control by javascript.

 Hope this helps.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
 whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The
 reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
 video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
 flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about  
 using
 a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to
 put something on my website that exclused people just because they
 aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.
 thank you, Max




 


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Re: flash player question

[Chris Blouch]

Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below is from 
a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.

CB

Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't like  
 the idea of running something on my site that I can't use myself.  I  
 finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4  
 files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the trick  
 very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my site,  
 but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if someone  
 would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what  
 they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

   
 Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
 accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
 then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
 supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't  
 tried
 that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the  
 page
 and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of  
 code
 which does this:

 object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
 codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; width=335
 height=312 id=movie2
param name=src value=/videos/accessibility/ 
 JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
param name=qtsrc
 value=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
param name=autoplay value=false
embed src=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
 qtsrc=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil  
 autoplay=false
 width=335 height=312
 pluginspage=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
 enablejavascript=true name=movie2
 /object
 div
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Play();return falsePlay good  
 form
 markup video/a
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Stop();return falseStop good  
 form
 markup video/a
 /div

 You probably could do something similar for flash but the video player
 you use would need to enable control by javascript.

 Hope this helps.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 
 Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
 whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The
 reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
 video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
 flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about  
 using
 a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to
 put something on my website that exclused people just because they
 aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.
 thank you, Max

   


 
   

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Re: flash player question

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

Hello;  Thanks for that.  I wish i had known, but the stuff i was  
reading on the web was talking about mp4 as if it wouldn't play in  
quicktime.  Got any suggestions for how i create a download link to go  
with the streaming one?  Thanks again, Max
On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below is  
 from a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

 Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't like
 the idea of running something on my site that I can't use myself.  I
 finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4
 files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the trick
 very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my  
 site,
 but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if  
 someone
 would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what
 they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


 Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
 accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
 then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
 supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't
 tried
 that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the
 page
 and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of
 code
 which does this:

 object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
 codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; width=335
 height=312 id=movie2
param name=src value=/videos/accessibility/
 JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
param name=qtsrc
 value=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
param name=autoplay value=false
embed src=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
 qtsrc=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
 autoplay=false
 width=335 height=312
 pluginspage=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
 enablejavascript=true name=movie2
 /object
 div
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Play();return falsePlay good
 form
 markup video/a
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Stop();return falseStop good
 form
 markup video/a
 /div

 You probably could do something similar for flash but the video  
 player
 you use would need to enable control by javascript.

 Hope this helps.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

 Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
 whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.   
 The
 reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
 video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
 flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about
 using
 a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want  
 to
 put something on my website that exclused people just because they
 aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can  
 get.
 thank you, Max







 


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Re: flash player question

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi,

Windows can't play this. Neither can Linux.

Regards,
Alex,


On 2-Jul-09, at 8:29 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

 Hello;  Thanks for that.  I wish i had known, but the stuff i was  
 reading on the web was talking about mp4 as if it wouldn't play in  
 quicktime.  Got any suggestions for how i create a download link to  
 go with the streaming one?  Thanks again, Max
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below is  
 from a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

 Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't like
 the idea of running something on my site that I can't use myself.  I
 finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4
 files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the  
 trick
 very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my  
 site,
 but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if  
 someone
 would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what
 they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


 Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
 accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but  
 even
 then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
 supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't
 tried
 that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the
 page
 and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of
 code
 which does this:

 object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
 codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; width=335
 height=312 id=movie2
param name=src value=/videos/accessibility/
 JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
param name=qtsrc
 value=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
param name=autoplay value=false
embed src=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
 qtsrc=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
 autoplay=false
 width=335 height=312
 pluginspage=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
 enablejavascript=true name=movie2
 /object
 div
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Play();return falsePlay good
 form
 markup video/a
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Stop();return falseStop good
 form
 markup video/a
 /div

 You probably could do something similar for flash but the video  
 player
 you use would need to enable control by javascript.

 Hope this helps.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

 Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
 whether or not flash players and their files will play on a  
 mac.  The
 reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
 video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort  
 of a
 flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about
 using
 a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't  
 want to
 put something on my website that exclused people just because they
 aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can  
 get.
 thank you, Max








 


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Re: flash player question

[Chris Blouch]

I think you just make the href point to the mp4, but it depends on the 
user's browser since it may notice the file ending and try to shunt the 
file to a media player.

CB

Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 Hello;  Thanks for that.  I wish i had known, but the stuff i was 
 reading on the web was talking about mp4 as if it wouldn't play in 
 quicktime.  Got any suggestions for how i create a download link to go 
 with the streaming one?  Thanks again, Max 
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below is 
 from a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't like  
 the idea of running something on my site that I can't use myself.  I  
 finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4  
 files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the trick  
 very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my site,  
 but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if someone  
 would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what  
 they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

   
 Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
 accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
 then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
 supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't  
 tried
 that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the  
 page
 and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of  
 code
 which does this:

 object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
 codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; width=335
 height=312 id=movie2
param name=src value=/videos/accessibility/ 
 JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
param name=qtsrc
 value=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
param name=autoplay value=false
embed src=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
 qtsrc=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil  
 autoplay=false
 width=335 height=312
 pluginspage=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
 enablejavascript=true name=movie2
 /object
 div
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Play();return falsePlay good  
 form
 markup video/a
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Stop();return falseStop good  
 form
 markup video/a
 /div

 You probably could do something similar for flash but the video player
 you use would need to enable control by javascript.

 Hope this helps.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 
 Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
 whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The
 reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
 video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
 flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about  
 using
 a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to
 put something on my website that exclused people just because they
 aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.
 thank you, Max

   



   


 

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Re: flash player question

[Chris Blouch]

With the current QuickTime it works fine in Windows. I was using QT 
mainly because I needed to put captions in the video and html controls 
on the page. I also wanted to use mp4 for it's smaller size/higher 
quality. My sample code links in a SMIL file for captions. QT has most 
of the basic controls accessible via Javascript so I could make links to 
toggle audio, captions and playback. This calls were

document.movie1.Play()
document.movie1.Stop()
document.movie1.SetMute(muted)
document.movie1.SetTrackEnabled(2,caption) - caption is either true or false

where the embed tag for the quicktime sets the ID to be 'movie1'

CB

Alex Jurgensen wrote:
 Hi,

 Windows can't play this. Neither can Linux.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 2-Jul-09, at 8:29 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

 Hello;  Thanks for that.  I wish i had known, but the stuff i was 
 reading on the web was talking about mp4 as if it wouldn't play in 
 quicktime.  Got any suggestions for how i create a download link to 
 go with the streaming one?  Thanks again, Max 
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below is 
 from a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't like  
 the idea of running something on my site that I can't use myself.  I  
 finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4  
 files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the trick  
 very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my site,  
 but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if someone  
 would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what  
 they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

   
 Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
 accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
 then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
 supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't  
 tried
 that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the  
 page
 and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of  
 code
 which does this:

 object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
 codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; width=335
 height=312 id=movie2
param name=src value=/videos/accessibility/ 
 JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
param name=qtsrc
 value=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
param name=autoplay value=false
embed src=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
 qtsrc=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil  
 autoplay=false
 width=335 height=312
 pluginspage=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
 enablejavascript=true name=movie2
 /object
 div
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Play();return falsePlay good  
 form
 markup video/a
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Stop();return falseStop good  
 form
 markup video/a
 /div

 You probably could do something similar for flash but the video player
 you use would need to enable control by javascript.

 Hope this helps.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 
 Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
 whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The
 reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
 video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
 flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about  
 using
 a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to
 put something on my website that exclused people just because they
 aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.
 thank you, Max

   



   






 

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Re: flash player question

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

well heck;  it plays ok in safari.  wonder what i did wrong.  Thanks  
for letting me know, Max
On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

 Hi,

 Windows can't play this. Neither can Linux.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 2-Jul-09, at 8:29 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

 Hello;  Thanks for that.  I wish i had known, but the stuff i was  
 reading on the web was talking about mp4 as if it wouldn't play in  
 quicktime.  Got any suggestions for how i create a download link to  
 go with the streaming one?  Thanks again, Max
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below  
 is from a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

 Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't  
 like
 the idea of running something on my site that I can't use  
 myself.  I
 finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4
 files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the  
 trick
 very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my  
 site,
 but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if  
 someone
 would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what
 they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


 Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has  
 some
 accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but  
 even
 then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such.  
 HTML5
 supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't
 tried
 that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the
 page
 and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet  
 of
 code
 which does this:

 object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
 codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; width=335
 height=312 id=movie2
param name=src value=/videos/accessibility/
 JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
param name=qtsrc
 value=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
param name=autoplay value=false
embed src=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
 qtsrc=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
 autoplay=false
 width=335 height=312
 pluginspage=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
 enablejavascript=true name=movie2
 /object
 div
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Play();return falsePlay  
 good
 form
 markup video/a
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Stop();return falseStop  
 good
 form
 markup video/a
 /div

 You probably could do something similar for flash but the video  
 player
 you use would need to enable control by javascript.

 Hope this helps.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

 Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
 whether or not flash players and their files will play on a  
 mac.  The
 reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
 video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort  
 of a
 flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about
 using
 a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't  
 want to
 put something on my website that exclused people just because  
 they
 aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can  
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 thank you, Max












 


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Re: flash player question

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi,
Chris,

This assumes that Windows has QT installed.

Regards,
Alex,


On 2-Jul-09, at 9:12 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 With the current QuickTime it works fine in Windows. I was using QT  
 mainly because I needed to put captions in the video and html  
 controls on the page. I also wanted to use mp4 for it's smaller size/ 
 higher quality. My sample code links in a SMIL file for captions. QT  
 has most of the basic controls accessible via Javascript so I could  
 make links to toggle audio, captions and playback. This calls were

 document.movie1.Play()
 document.movie1.Stop()
 document.movie1.SetMute(muted)
 document.movie1.SetTrackEnabled(2,caption) - caption is either true  
 or false

 where the embed tag for the quicktime sets the ID to be 'movie1'

 CB

 Alex Jurgensen wrote:

 Hi,

 Windows can't play this. Neither can Linux.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 2-Jul-09, at 8:29 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

 Hello;  Thanks for that.  I wish i had known, but the stuff i was  
 reading on the web was talking about mp4 as if it wouldn't play in  
 quicktime.  Got any suggestions for how i create a download link  
 to go with the streaming one?  Thanks again, Max
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below  
 is from a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

 Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't  
 like
 the idea of running something on my site that I can't use  
 myself.  I
 finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4
 files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the  
 trick
 very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my  
 site,
 but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if  
 someone
 would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what
 they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


 Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has  
 some
 accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but  
 even
 then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such.  
 HTML5
 supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't
 tried
 that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in  
 the
 page
 and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a  
 snippet of
 code
 which does this:

 object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
 codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab;  
 width=335
 height=312 id=movie2
param name=src value=/videos/accessibility/
 JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
param name=qtsrc
 value=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
param name=autoplay value=false
embed src=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
 qtsrc=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
 autoplay=false
 width=335 height=312
 pluginspage=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
 enablejavascript=true name=movie2
 /object
 div
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Play();return falsePlay  
 good
 form
 markup video/a
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Stop();return falseStop  
 good
 form
 markup video/a
 /div

 You probably could do something similar for flash but the video  
 player
 you use would need to enable control by javascript.

 Hope this helps.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

 Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer  
 about
 whether or not flash players and their files will play on a  
 mac.  The
 reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
 video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort  
 of a
 flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about
 using
 a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't  
 want to
 put something on my website that exclused people just because  
 they
 aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I  
 can get.
 thank you, Max














 


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Re: flash player question

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

Hello Chris;  I was trying to do the same thing using quicktime to  
embed a .mov file.  I chose for it to start automatically once someone  
clicks on the link.  It seams to work ok in safari, but alex just told  
me it isn't working on his windows or lynex systems.  When I go to my  
own websie, I can't find the buttons, so I guess that is what you were  
showing me with the extra code.  I hope i get this figured out soon,  
am a one man band and i'm getting behind on other work for my site  
trying to get this right.  Thanks again, Max
On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


 Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
 accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
 then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
 supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't  
 tried
 that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the  
 page
 and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of  
 code
 which does this:

 object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
 codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; width=335
 height=312 id=movie2
param name=src value=/videos/accessibility/ 
 JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
param name=qtsrc
 value=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
param name=autoplay value=false
embed src=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
 qtsrc=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil  
 autoplay=false
 width=335 height=312
 pluginspage=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
 enablejavascript=true name=movie2
 /object
 div
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Play();return falsePlay good  
 form
 markup video/a
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Stop();return falseStop good  
 form
 markup video/a
 /div

 You probably could do something similar for flash but the video player
 you use would need to enable control by javascript.

 Hope this helps.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
 whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The
 reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
 video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
 flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about  
 using
 a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to
 put something on my website that exclused people just because they
 aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.
 thank you, Max




 


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Re: flash player question

[Chris Blouch]

Right. And Flash assumes Flash is installed. This is why the new video 
tag is so important. All these plugins have been trying to address a 
gaping hole in the browser backplane. The inability to handle audio and 
video was not such a big deal when most folks were on dialup, but that's 
not the case anymore and I shouldn't have to rely on users having 
installed certain proprietary plugins just to do basic stuff. That said, 
I'm still unclear on the video tags codec support. It seems that on 
Safari it will playback any video that QT supports. That means with the 
XiphQT component installed you can play Ogg Theora. It's still a bit of 
a mess since different browsers on different platforms will have native 
support for different codecs. Ian Hickson wrote about this issue on Monday:

http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020620.html

The interesting summary is this:

quote

The current situation is as follows:

   Apple refuses to implement Ogg Theora in Quicktime by default (as used
   by Safari), citing lack of hardware support and an uncertain patent
   landscape.

   Google has implemented H.264 and Ogg Theora in Chrome, but cannot
   provide the H.264 codec license to third-party distributors of
   Chromium, and have indicated a belief that Ogg Theora's quality-per-bit
   is not yet suitable for the volume handled by YouTube.

   Opera refuses to implement H.264, citing the obscene cost of the
   relevant patent licenses.

   Mozilla refuses to implement H.264, as they would not be able to obtain
   a license that covers their downstream distributors.

   Microsoft has not commented on their intent to support video at all.

/quote

CB

Alex Jurgensen wrote:
 Hi,
 Chris,

 This assumes that Windows has QT installed.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 2-Jul-09, at 9:12 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 With the current QuickTime it works fine in Windows. I was using QT 
 mainly because I needed to put captions in the video and html 
 controls on the page. I also wanted to use mp4 for it's smaller 
 size/higher quality. My sample code links in a SMIL file for 
 captions. QT has most of the basic controls accessible via Javascript 
 so I could make links to toggle audio, captions and playback. This 
 calls were

 document.movie1.Play()
 document.movie1.Stop()
 document.movie1.SetMute(muted)
 document.movie1.SetTrackEnabled(2,caption) - caption is either true 
 or false

 where the embed tag for the quicktime sets the ID to be 'movie1'

 CB

 Alex Jurgensen wrote:
 Hi,

 Windows can't play this. Neither can Linux.

 Regards,
 Alex,


 On 2-Jul-09, at 8:29 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

 Hello;  Thanks for that.  I wish i had known, but the stuff i was 
 reading on the web was talking about mp4 as if it wouldn't play in 
 quicktime.  Got any suggestions for how i create a download link to 
 go with the streaming one?  Thanks again, Max 
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below 
 is from a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't like  
 the idea of running something on my site that I can't use myself.  I  
 finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4  
 files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the trick  
 very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my site,  
 but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if someone  
 would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what  
 they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

   
 Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
 accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
 then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
 supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't  
 tried
 that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the  
 page
 and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of  
 code
 which does this:

 object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
 codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; width=335
 height=312 id=movie2
param name=src value=/videos/accessibility/ 
 JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
param name=qtsrc
 value=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
param name=autoplay value=false
embed src=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
 qtsrc=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil  
 autoplay=false
 width=335 height=312
 pluginspage=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
 enablejavascript=true name=movie2
 /object
 div
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Play();return falsePlay good  
 form
 markup video/a
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Stop();return falseStop good  
 form
 markup video/a
 /div

 You probably could do something similar for flash but 

Re: flash player question

[Chris Blouch]

The code I gave earlier works fine in IE and Firefox on WinXP SP3 with 
QuickTime installed. It also works just fine on Safari and FF on OSX. 
With the links on the page I can use VO to navigate to the video links 
and stop/start playback. If I were to do it again I might make it a 
toggle so I don't have to navigate to another link just to stop the 
video. I'd also implement some keyboard shortcuts. Someday when I have 
more time :)

CB

Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 Hello Chris;  I was trying to do the same thing using quicktime to  
 embed a .mov file.  I chose for it to start automatically once someone  
 clicks on the link.  It seams to work ok in safari, but alex just told  
 me it isn't working on his windows or lynex systems.  When I go to my  
 own websie, I can't find the buttons, so I guess that is what you were  
 showing me with the extra code.  I hope i get this figured out soon,  
 am a one man band and i'm getting behind on other work for my site  
 trying to get this right.  Thanks again, Max
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

   
 Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
 accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
 then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
 supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't  
 tried
 that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the  
 page
 and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of  
 code
 which does this:

 object classid=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B
 codebase=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; width=335
 height=312 id=movie2
param name=src value=/videos/accessibility/ 
 JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
param name=qtsrc
 value=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil
param name=autoplay value=false
embed src=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkup.mp4
 qtsrc=/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil  
 autoplay=false
 width=335 height=312
 pluginspage=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/;
 enablejavascript=true name=movie2
 /object
 div
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Play();return falsePlay good  
 form
 markup video/a
 a href=# onclick=document.movie2.Stop();return falseStop good  
 form
 markup video/a
 /div

 You probably could do something similar for flash but the video player
 you use would need to enable control by javascript.

 Hope this helps.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 
 Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
 whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The
 reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
 video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
 flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about  
 using
 a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to
 put something on my website that exclused people just because they
 aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.
 thank you, Max

   


 
   

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