Re: Sitrix access

[Scott Granados]

No but it is on his iPad, he would use Safari on the iPad side for the sharing 
process.


> On Apr 24, 2017, at 10:04 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> Yeah possibly but it will come down to what form of lock down the sys admins 
> have on the notebook,
> 
> As for safari, not an option on a windows 7 based machine
> 
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, 24 April 2017 10:18 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
> 
> I would think you could enable sharing on the laptop and then mount the 
> shares via the browser possibly.  It’s been a long long time but I thought I 
> remembered something along the lines of using the safari browser as the file 
> browser.  Let me know if you get stuck I’d take this on as a project to 
> figure it out as well and be glad to help.  Possibly Simon has run in to this 
> as a systems admin.  Might be a good question for the blind sysadmins list as 
> well.  THere’s a lot of smart windows admins there.
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 23, 2017, at 5:52 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I really like that suggestion. I had not considered it. Now, to figure out 
> how to set it up.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 24/04/2017, at 00:33, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> One other idea David is possibly sharing a volume or folder on one device and 
> making it available to both so you can just drag and drop content with out 
> needing an intermediary.
> 
> Just another suggestion.
> 
> On Apr 23, 2017, at 5:04 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the reminder. I will ask about both, Google Drive and OneDrive.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 22/04/2017, at 21:30, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> What about Google drive?
> 
> On Apr 22, 2017, at 7:28 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Yes, but the organisation does not support Apple (save for iPads), so they 
> will probably require OneDrive. I personally would prefer iCloud. I seriously 
> doubt they will accept dropbox.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 22/04/2017, at 18:12, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> One drive is very usable on IOS and jaws obviously,
> 
> But remember that Interlectual property is questionable within One Drive 
> especially for government organisations
> 
> Good luck though.
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 4:37 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, once I receive my local access laptop, I will find a way to easily 
> transfer documents between the iPad and the laptop. Email will definitely 
> work. However, I will first try Microsoft One Drive. It will depend on the 
> permissions desktop support gives me on the laptop. At the very least, they 
> will allow me to install the screen reader. My question is JFW or NVDA. That 
> will depend on how well NVDA can access our specialised programs. I would 
> prefer to avoid the several hundred dollar JFW upgrade cost as my JFW license 
> is 5 years out-of-date..
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 21/04/2017, at 19:05, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> Have you thought of other possible options to get your documentation from the 
> iPad to the shared drives?
> 
> I’m just wo

RE: Sitrix access

[Simon Fogarty]

Scott,

Yeah possibly but it will come down to what form of lock down the sys admins 
have on the notebook,

As for safari, not an option on a windows 7 based machine


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 24 April 2017 10:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sitrix access

I would think you could enable sharing on the laptop and then mount the shares 
via the browser possibly.  It’s been a long long time but I thought I 
remembered something along the lines of using the safari browser as the file 
browser.  Let me know if you get stuck I’d take this on as a project to figure 
it out as well and be glad to help.  Possibly Simon has run in to this as a 
systems admin.  Might be a good question for the blind sysadmins list as well.  
THere’s a lot of smart windows admins there.



On Apr 23, 2017, at 5:52 PM, David Chittenden 
<dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Scott,

I really like that suggestion. I had not considered it. Now, to figure out how 
to set it up.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 24/04/2017, at 00:33, Scott Granados 
<scott.grana...@gmail.com<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
One other idea David is possibly sharing a volume or folder on one device and 
making it available to both so you can just drag and drop content with out 
needing an intermediary.

Just another suggestion.

On Apr 23, 2017, at 5:04 AM, David Chittenden 
<dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks for the reminder. I will ask about both, Google Drive and OneDrive.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 22/04/2017, at 21:30, Scott Granados 
<scott.grana...@gmail.com<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What about Google drive?

On Apr 22, 2017, at 7:28 AM, David Chittenden 
<dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes, but the organisation does not support Apple (save for iPads), so they will 
probably require OneDrive. I personally would prefer iCloud. I seriously doubt 
they will accept dropbox.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 22/04/2017, at 18:12, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Hi David,

One drive is very usable on IOS and jaws obviously,

But remember that Interlectual property is questionable within One Drive 
especially for government organisations

Good luck though.
From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 4:37 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Sitrix access

Hi,

Yes, once I receive my local access laptop, I will find a way to easily 
transfer documents between the iPad and the laptop. Email will definitely work. 
However, I will first try Microsoft One Drive. It will depend on the 
permissions desktop support gives me on the laptop. At the very least, they 
will allow me to install the screen reader. My question is JFW or NVDA. That 
will depend on how well NVDA can access our specialised programs. I would 
prefer to avoid the several hundred dollar JFW upgrade cost as my JFW license 
is 5 years out-of-date..

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 21/04/2017, at 19:05, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
David,

Have you thought of other possible options to get your documentation from the 
iPad to the shared drives?

I’m just wondering if it might be possible to save documents to a secure cloud 
environment

Can’t believe there wouldn’t be something that could be used
From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 9:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Sitrix access

As for running Windows, I will do most of my admin work on the iPad. The 
computer will mainly be used to place my completed paperwork on the network 
drives.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/04/2017, at 17:58, Scott Granados 
<scott.grana...@gmail.com<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com&g

Re: Sitrix access

[Scott Granados]

I would think you could enable sharing on the laptop and then mount the shares 
via the browser possibly.  It’s been a long long time but I thought I 
remembered something along the lines of using the safari browser as the file 
browser.  Let me know if you get stuck I’d take this on as a project to figure 
it out as well and be glad to help.  Possibly Simon has run in to this as a 
systems admin.  Might be a good question for the blind sysadmins list as well.  
THere’s a lot of smart windows admins there.



> On Apr 23, 2017, at 5:52 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I really like that suggestion. I had not considered it. Now, to figure out 
> how to set it up.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 24/04/2017, at 00:33, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> One other idea David is possibly sharing a volume or folder on one device 
>> and making it available to both so you can just drag and drop content with 
>> out needing an intermediary.
>> 
>> Just another suggestion.
>> 
>>> On Apr 23, 2017, at 5:04 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the reminder. I will ask about both, Google Drive and OneDrive.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 22/04/2017, at 21:30, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What about Google drive?
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 7:28 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, but the organisation does not support Apple (save for iPads), so 
>>>>> they will probably require OneDrive. I personally would prefer iCloud. I 
>>>>> seriously doubt they will accept dropbox.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 22/04/2017, at 18:12, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One drive is very usable on IOS and jaws obviously,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But remember that Interlectual property is questionable within One Drive 
>>>>>> especially for government organisations
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good luck though.
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 4:37 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, once I receive my local access laptop, I will find a way to easily 
>>>>>> transfer documents between the iPad and the laptop. Email will 
>>>>>> definitely work. However, I will first try Microsoft One Drive. It will 
>>>>>> depend on the permissions desktop support gives me on the laptop. At the 
>>>>>> very least, they will allow me to install the screen reader. My question 
>>>>>> is JFW or NVDA. That will depend on how well NVDA can access our 
>>>>>> specialised programs. I would prefer to avoid the several hundred dollar 
>>>>>> JFW upgrade cost as my JFW license is 5 years out-of-date..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com

Re: Sitrix access

[David Chittenden]

Hi Scott,

I really like that suggestion. I had not considered it. Now, to figure out how 
to set it up.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 24/04/2017, at 00:33, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> One other idea David is possibly sharing a volume or folder on one device and 
> making it available to both so you can just drag and drop content with out 
> needing an intermediary.
> 
> Just another suggestion.
> 
>> On Apr 23, 2017, at 5:04 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the reminder. I will ask about both, Google Drive and OneDrive.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 22/04/2017, at 21:30, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What about Google drive?
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 7:28 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, but the organisation does not support Apple (save for iPads), so they 
>>>> will probably require OneDrive. I personally would prefer iCloud. I 
>>>> seriously doubt they will accept dropbox.
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 22/04/2017, at 18:12, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>  
>>>>> One drive is very usable on IOS and jaws obviously,
>>>>>  
>>>>> But remember that Interlectual property is questionable within One Drive 
>>>>> especially for government organisations
>>>>>  
>>>>> Good luck though.
>>>>> From: 
>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 4:37 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>  
>>>>> Yes, once I receive my local access laptop, I will find a way to easily 
>>>>> transfer documents between the iPad and the laptop. Email will definitely 
>>>>> work. However, I will first try Microsoft One Drive. It will depend on 
>>>>> the permissions desktop support gives me on the laptop. At the very 
>>>>> least, they will allow me to install the screen reader. My question is 
>>>>> JFW or NVDA. That will depend on how well NVDA can access our specialised 
>>>>> programs. I would prefer to avoid the several hundred dollar JFW upgrade 
>>>>> cost as my JFW license is 5 years out-of-date..
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>  
>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 21/04/2017, at 19:05, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> David,
>>>>>  
>>>>> Have you thought of other possible options to get your documentation from 
>>>>> the iPad to the shared drives?
>>>>>  
>>>>> I’m just wondering if it might be possible to save documents to a secure 
>>>>> cloud environment
>>>>>  
>>>>> Can’t believe there wouldn’t be something that could be used
>>>>> From: 
>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>>>> Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 9:41 AM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
>>>>>  
>>>>> As for running Windows, I will do most of my admin work on the iPad. The 
>>>>> computer will mainly be used to place my completed paperwork on the 
>>>>> network drives.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>  
>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>>> Mobile: +61 

Re: Sitrix access

[Scott Granados]

One other idea David is possibly sharing a volume or folder on one device and 
making it available to both so you can just drag and drop content with out 
needing an intermediary.

Just another suggestion.

> On Apr 23, 2017, at 5:04 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the reminder. I will ask about both, Google Drive and OneDrive.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 22/04/2017, at 21:30, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> What about Google drive?
>> 
>>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 7:28 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, but the organisation does not support Apple (save for iPads), so they 
>>> will probably require OneDrive. I personally would prefer iCloud. I 
>>> seriously doubt they will accept dropbox.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 22/04/2017, at 18:12, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi David,
>>>> 
>>>> One drive is very usable on IOS and jaws obviously,
>>>> 
>>>> But remember that Interlectual property is questionable within One Drive 
>>>> especially for government organisations
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck though.
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 4:37 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, once I receive my local access laptop, I will find a way to easily 
>>>> transfer documents between the iPad and the laptop. Email will definitely 
>>>> work. However, I will first try Microsoft One Drive. It will depend on the 
>>>> permissions desktop support gives me on the laptop. At the very least, 
>>>> they will allow me to install the screen reader. My question is JFW or 
>>>> NVDA. That will depend on how well NVDA can access our specialised 
>>>> programs. I would prefer to avoid the several hundred dollar JFW upgrade 
>>>> cost as my JFW license is 5 years out-of-date..
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
>>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 21/04/2017, at 19:05, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> David,
>>>> 
>>>> Have you thought of other possible options to get your documentation from 
>>>> the iPad to the shared drives?
>>>> 
>>>> I’m just wondering if it might be possible to save documents to a secure 
>>>> cloud environment
>>>> 
>>>> Can’t believe there wouldn’t be something that could be used
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>>> Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 9:41 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
>>>> 
>>>> As for running Windows, I will do most of my admin work on the iPad. The 
>>>> computer will mainly be used to place my completed paperwork on the 
>>>> network drives.
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
>>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>

Re: Sitrix access

[David Chittenden]

Yes, the desktops are bloody underpowered Windows 7 dumb terminals which just 
login to the secure Citrix server.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 23/04/2017, at 10:28, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> The desktop must be bloody under powered if they can’t support jaws,
>  
> Sounds like they are a form of dumb terminal.
> Mind you if they use citrix like we do then I can see why
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 9:38 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
>  
> I was really hoping the iPad would work. That said, I am glad they are giving 
> me the local access laptop. The desktop computers are rather underpowered. 
> They merely connect to the company's intranet through the internet, using 
> secure servers. They are very slow to load the worker's desktop when one logs 
> in. They have very little internal memory or storage, which is why the laptop 
> is provided (the office desktop cannot support Jaws.
> 
> Kind regards,
>  
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20/04/2017, at 17:58, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That’s such a bogus reason not to install JFW.  Especially when you can 
> deploy it so it only runs for the specific users required.  All that is I 
> think is an IT department to lazy to do their jobs.  People bitch about jaws 
> or voice over and security in the mean time demanding that their favorite 
> messenger or media player is installed that really does have security 
> concerns.  (I’m sorry we can’t install JFW for you oh and get ready we’re 
> pushing out a new Java virtual machine). Right!
>  
> Not a bad work around though.  The only problem is having to run windows, 
> that would be a deal breaker for me.
>  
>  
>  
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:01 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> Thanks all.
>  
> It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
> JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide the 
> blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I then 
> carry the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years of 
> Mac and iOS.
> 
> Kind regards,
>  
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you 
> can expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications get 
> merged with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on both 
> system and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote system will 
> just send the text to be read or braille to your local machine and not the 
> complete sound f of the synthesized speech. 
>  
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.
> 
> Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.
> 
> > On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
> > drives.
> >
> > To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a 
> > secure website. This site then displays username and password fields for 
> > log in. The system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual 
> > desktop.
> >
> > I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
> > accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then 
> > installed Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver 
> > worked, and again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
> >
> > Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver access 
> > to the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> > Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
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Re: Sitrix access

[David Chittenden]

Thanks for the reminder. I will ask about both, Google Drive and OneDrive.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 22/04/2017, at 21:30, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> What about Google drive?
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 7:28 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, but the organisation does not support Apple (save for iPads), so they 
>> will probably require OneDrive. I personally would prefer iCloud. I 
>> seriously doubt they will accept dropbox.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 22/04/2017, at 18:12, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi David,
>>>  
>>> One drive is very usable on IOS and jaws obviously,
>>>  
>>> But remember that Interlectual property is questionable within One Drive 
>>> especially for government organisations
>>>  
>>> Good luck though.
>>> From: 
>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>> Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 4:37 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> Yes, once I receive my local access laptop, I will find a way to easily 
>>> transfer documents between the iPad and the laptop. Email will definitely 
>>> work. However, I will first try Microsoft One Drive. It will depend on the 
>>> permissions desktop support gives me on the laptop. At the very least, they 
>>> will allow me to install the screen reader. My question is JFW or NVDA. 
>>> That will depend on how well NVDA can access our specialised programs. I 
>>> would prefer to avoid the several hundred dollar JFW upgrade cost as my JFW 
>>> license is 5 years out-of-date..
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>>  
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 21/04/2017, at 19:05, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> David,
>>>  
>>> Have you thought of other possible options to get your documentation from 
>>> the iPad to the shared drives?
>>>  
>>> I’m just wondering if it might be possible to save documents to a secure 
>>> cloud environment
>>>  
>>> Can’t believe there wouldn’t be something that could be used
>>> From: 
>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>> Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 9:41 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
>>>  
>>> As for running Windows, I will do most of my admin work on the iPad. The 
>>> computer will mainly be used to place my completed paperwork on the network 
>>> drives.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>>  
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 20/04/2017, at 17:58, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That’s such a bogus reason not to install JFW.  Especially when you can 
>>> deploy it so it only runs for the specific users required.  All that is I 
>>> think is an IT department to lazy to do their jobs.  People bitch about 
>>> jaws or voice over and security in the mean time demanding that their 
>>> favorite messenger or media player is installed that really does have 
>>> security concerns.  (I’m sorry we can’t install JFW for you oh and get 
>>> ready we’re pushing out a new Java virtual machine). Right!
>>>  
>>> Not a bad work around though.  The only problem is having to run windows, 
>>> that would be a deal breaker for me.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:01 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Thanks all.
>>>  
>>> It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not 
>>> place JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to 
>>> provide the blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local 
>>> access. I then

RE: Sitrix access

[Simon Fogarty]

The desktop must be bloody under powered if they can’t support jaws,

Sounds like they are a form of dumb terminal.
Mind you if they use citrix like we do then I can see why

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 9:38 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sitrix access

I was really hoping the iPad would work. That said, I am glad they are giving 
me the local access laptop. The desktop computers are rather underpowered. They 
merely connect to the company's intranet through the internet, using secure 
servers. They are very slow to load the worker's desktop when one logs in. They 
have very little internal memory or storage, which is why the laptop is 
provided (the office desktop cannot support Jaws.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/04/2017, at 17:58, Scott Granados 
<scott.grana...@gmail.com<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That’s such a bogus reason not to install JFW.  Especially when you can deploy 
it so it only runs for the specific users required.  All that is I think is an 
IT department to lazy to do their jobs.  People bitch about jaws or voice over 
and security in the mean time demanding that their favorite messenger or media 
player is installed that really does have security concerns.  (I’m sorry we 
can’t install JFW for you oh and get ready we’re pushing out a new Java virtual 
machine). Right!

Not a bad work around though.  The only problem is having to run windows, that 
would be a deal breaker for me.



On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:01 AM, David Chittenden 
<dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks all.

It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide the 
blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I then carry 
the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years of Mac and 
iOS.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn 
<jon.c.c...@gmail.com<mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you can 
expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications get merged 
with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on both system 
and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote system will just 
send the text to be read or braille to your local machine and not the complete 
sound f of the synthesized speech.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados 
<scott.grana...@gmail.com<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.

Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.

> On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden 
> <dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
> drives.
>
> To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a secure 
> website. This site then displays username and password fields for log in. The 
> system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual desktop.
>
> I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
> accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then installed 
> Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver worked, and 
> again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
>
> Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver access to 
> the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936<tel:+61%20488%20988%20936>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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>
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Re: Sitrix access

[Scott Granados]

What about Google drive?

> On Apr 22, 2017, at 7:28 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, but the organisation does not support Apple (save for iPads), so they 
> will probably require OneDrive. I personally would prefer iCloud. I seriously 
> doubt they will accept dropbox.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 22/04/2017, at 18:12, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> One drive is very usable on IOS and jaws obviously,
>> 
>> But remember that Interlectual property is questionable within One Drive 
>> especially for government organisations
>> 
>> Good luck though.
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 4:37 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yes, once I receive my local access laptop, I will find a way to easily 
>> transfer documents between the iPad and the laptop. Email will definitely 
>> work. However, I will first try Microsoft One Drive. It will depend on the 
>> permissions desktop support gives me on the laptop. At the very least, they 
>> will allow me to install the screen reader. My question is JFW or NVDA. That 
>> will depend on how well NVDA can access our specialised programs. I would 
>> prefer to avoid the several hundred dollar JFW upgrade cost as my JFW 
>> license is 5 years out-of-date..
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 21/04/2017, at 19:05, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> David,
>> 
>> Have you thought of other possible options to get your documentation from 
>> the iPad to the shared drives?
>> 
>> I’m just wondering if it might be possible to save documents to a secure 
>> cloud environment
>> 
>> Can’t believe there wouldn’t be something that could be used
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 9:41 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
>> 
>> As for running Windows, I will do most of my admin work on the iPad. The 
>> computer will mainly be used to place my completed paperwork on the network 
>> drives.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 20/04/2017, at 17:58, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> That’s such a bogus reason not to install JFW.  Especially when you can 
>> deploy it so it only runs for the specific users required.  All that is I 
>> think is an IT department to lazy to do their jobs.  People bitch about jaws 
>> or voice over and security in the mean time demanding that their favorite 
>> messenger or media player is installed that really does have security 
>> concerns.  (I’m sorry we can’t install JFW for you oh and get ready we’re 
>> pushing out a new Java virtual machine). Right!
>> 
>> Not a bad work around though.  The only problem is having to run windows, 
>> that would be a deal breaker for me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:01 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks all.
>> 
>> It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
>> JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide 
>> the blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I 
>> then carry the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years 
>> of Mac and iOS.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 

Re: Sitrix access

[David Chittenden]

Yes, but the organisation does not support Apple (save for iPads), so they will 
probably require OneDrive. I personally would prefer iCloud. I seriously doubt 
they will accept dropbox.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 22/04/2017, at 18:12, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
>  
> One drive is very usable on IOS and jaws obviously,
>  
> But remember that Interlectual property is questionable within One Drive 
> especially for government organisations
>  
> Good luck though.
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 4:37 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Yes, once I receive my local access laptop, I will find a way to easily 
> transfer documents between the iPad and the laptop. Email will definitely 
> work. However, I will first try Microsoft One Drive. It will depend on the 
> permissions desktop support gives me on the laptop. At the very least, they 
> will allow me to install the screen reader. My question is JFW or NVDA. That 
> will depend on how well NVDA can access our specialised programs. I would 
> prefer to avoid the several hundred dollar JFW upgrade cost as my JFW license 
> is 5 years out-of-date..
> 
> Kind regards,
>  
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 21/04/2017, at 19:05, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> David,
>  
> Have you thought of other possible options to get your documentation from the 
> iPad to the shared drives?
>  
> I’m just wondering if it might be possible to save documents to a secure 
> cloud environment
>  
> Can’t believe there wouldn’t be something that could be used
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 9:41 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
>  
> As for running Windows, I will do most of my admin work on the iPad. The 
> computer will mainly be used to place my completed paperwork on the network 
> drives.
> 
> Kind regards,
>  
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20/04/2017, at 17:58, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That’s such a bogus reason not to install JFW.  Especially when you can 
> deploy it so it only runs for the specific users required.  All that is I 
> think is an IT department to lazy to do their jobs.  People bitch about jaws 
> or voice over and security in the mean time demanding that their favorite 
> messenger or media player is installed that really does have security 
> concerns.  (I’m sorry we can’t install JFW for you oh and get ready we’re 
> pushing out a new Java virtual machine). Right!
>  
> Not a bad work around though.  The only problem is having to run windows, 
> that would be a deal breaker for me.
>  
>  
>  
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:01 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> Thanks all.
>  
> It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
> JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide the 
> blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I then 
> carry the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years of 
> Mac and iOS.
> 
> Kind regards,
>  
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you 
> can expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications get 
> merged with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on both 
> system and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote system will 
> just send the text to be read or braille to your local machine and not the 
> complete sound f of the synthesized speech. 
>  
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.
> 
> Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.
> 
> > On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the inform

RE: Sitrix access

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi David,

One drive is very usable on IOS and jaws obviously,

But remember that Interlectual property is questionable within One Drive 
especially for government organisations

Good luck though.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017 4:37 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sitrix access

Hi,

Yes, once I receive my local access laptop, I will find a way to easily 
transfer documents between the iPad and the laptop. Email will definitely work. 
However, I will first try Microsoft One Drive. It will depend on the 
permissions desktop support gives me on the laptop. At the very least, they 
will allow me to install the screen reader. My question is JFW or NVDA. That 
will depend on how well NVDA can access our specialised programs. I would 
prefer to avoid the several hundred dollar JFW upgrade cost as my JFW license 
is 5 years out-of-date..

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 21/04/2017, at 19:05, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
David,

Have you thought of other possible options to get your documentation from the 
iPad to the shared drives?

I’m just wondering if it might be possible to save documents to a secure cloud 
environment

Can’t believe there wouldn’t be something that could be used
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 9:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Sitrix access

As for running Windows, I will do most of my admin work on the iPad. The 
computer will mainly be used to place my completed paperwork on the network 
drives.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/04/2017, at 17:58, Scott Granados 
<scott.grana...@gmail.com<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That’s such a bogus reason not to install JFW.  Especially when you can deploy 
it so it only runs for the specific users required.  All that is I think is an 
IT department to lazy to do their jobs.  People bitch about jaws or voice over 
and security in the mean time demanding that their favorite messenger or media 
player is installed that really does have security concerns.  (I’m sorry we 
can’t install JFW for you oh and get ready we’re pushing out a new Java virtual 
machine). Right!

Not a bad work around though.  The only problem is having to run windows, that 
would be a deal breaker for me.



On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:01 AM, David Chittenden 
<dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks all.

It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide the 
blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I then carry 
the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years of Mac and 
iOS.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn 
<jon.c.c...@gmail.com<mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you can 
expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications get merged 
with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on both system 
and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote system will just 
send the text to be read or braille to your local machine and not the complete 
sound f of the synthesized speech.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados 
<scott.grana...@gmail.com<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.

Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.

> On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden 
> <dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
> drives.
>
> To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a secure 
> website. This site then displays username and password fields for log in. The 
> system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual desktop.
>
> I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
> accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then installed 
> Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver worked, and 
> again, the resulting s

Re: Sitrix access

[David Chittenden]

Hi,

Yes, once I receive my local access laptop, I will find a way to easily 
transfer documents between the iPad and the laptop. Email will definitely work. 
However, I will first try Microsoft One Drive. It will depend on the 
permissions desktop support gives me on the laptop. At the very least, they 
will allow me to install the screen reader. My question is JFW or NVDA. That 
will depend on how well NVDA can access our specialised programs. I would 
prefer to avoid the several hundred dollar JFW upgrade cost as my JFW license 
is 5 years out-of-date..

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 21/04/2017, at 19:05, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> David,
>  
> Have you thought of other possible options to get your documentation from the 
> iPad to the shared drives?
>  
> I’m just wondering if it might be possible to save documents to a secure 
> cloud environment
>  
> Can’t believe there wouldn’t be something that could be used
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 9:41 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
>  
> As for running Windows, I will do most of my admin work on the iPad. The 
> computer will mainly be used to place my completed paperwork on the network 
> drives.
> 
> Kind regards,
>  
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20/04/2017, at 17:58, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That’s such a bogus reason not to install JFW.  Especially when you can 
> deploy it so it only runs for the specific users required.  All that is I 
> think is an IT department to lazy to do their jobs.  People bitch about jaws 
> or voice over and security in the mean time demanding that their favorite 
> messenger or media player is installed that really does have security 
> concerns.  (I’m sorry we can’t install JFW for you oh and get ready we’re 
> pushing out a new Java virtual machine). Right!
>  
> Not a bad work around though.  The only problem is having to run windows, 
> that would be a deal breaker for me.
>  
>  
>  
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:01 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> Thanks all.
>  
> It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
> JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide the 
> blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I then 
> carry the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years of 
> Mac and iOS.
> 
> Kind regards,
>  
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you 
> can expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications get 
> merged with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on both 
> system and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote system will 
> just send the text to be read or braille to your local machine and not the 
> complete sound f of the synthesized speech. 
>  
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.
> 
> Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.
> 
> > On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
> > drives.
> >
> > To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a 
> > secure website. This site then displays username and password fields for 
> > log in. The system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual 
> > desktop.
> >
> > I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
> > accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then 
> > installed Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver 
> > worked, and again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
> >
> > Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver access 
> > to the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> > Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> > Sent from my

RE: Sitrix access

[Simon Fogarty]

David,

Have you thought of other possible options to get your documentation from the 
iPad to the shared drives?

I’m just wondering if it might be possible to save documents to a secure cloud 
environment

Can’t believe there wouldn’t be something that could be used
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, 21 April 2017 9:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sitrix access

As for running Windows, I will do most of my admin work on the iPad. The 
computer will mainly be used to place my completed paperwork on the network 
drives.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/04/2017, at 17:58, Scott Granados 
<scott.grana...@gmail.com<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That’s such a bogus reason not to install JFW.  Especially when you can deploy 
it so it only runs for the specific users required.  All that is I think is an 
IT department to lazy to do their jobs.  People bitch about jaws or voice over 
and security in the mean time demanding that their favorite messenger or media 
player is installed that really does have security concerns.  (I’m sorry we 
can’t install JFW for you oh and get ready we’re pushing out a new Java virtual 
machine). Right!

Not a bad work around though.  The only problem is having to run windows, that 
would be a deal breaker for me.



On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:01 AM, David Chittenden 
<dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks all.

It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide the 
blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I then carry 
the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years of Mac and 
iOS.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn 
<jon.c.c...@gmail.com<mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you can 
expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications get merged 
with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on both system 
and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote system will just 
send the text to be read or braille to your local machine and not the complete 
sound f of the synthesized speech.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados 
<scott.grana...@gmail.com<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.

Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.

> On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden 
> <dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
> drives.
>
> To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a secure 
> website. This site then displays username and password fields for log in. The 
> system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual desktop.
>
> I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
> accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then installed 
> Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver worked, and 
> again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
>
> Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver access to 
> the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936<tel:+61%20488%20988%20936>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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Re: Sitrix access

[David Chittenden]

I am now working for a large not-for-profit organisation in Brisbane.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 20/04/2017, at 19:02, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
>  
> Your not working for the university of Otago by any chance are you?
>  
> Sounds like the sort of things they’d do.
>  
> Mind you they said they don’t know how to setup jaws within the citrix 
> environment which was great as they told me I wasn’t allowed to either.
>  
> Good luck and I hope they make things work for you.
>  
> Sf\
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2017 7:01 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
>  
> Thanks all.
>  
> It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
> JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide the 
> blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I then 
> carry the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years of 
> Mac and iOS.
> 
> Kind regards,
>  
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you 
> can expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications get 
> merged with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on both 
> system and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote system will 
> just send the text to be read or braille to your local machine and not the 
> complete sound f of the synthesized speech. 
>  
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.
> 
> Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.
> 
> > On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
> > drives.
> >
> > To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a 
> > secure website. This site then displays username and password fields for 
> > log in. The system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual 
> > desktop.
> >
> > I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
> > accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then 
> > installed Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver 
> > worked, and again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
> >
> > Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver access 
> > to the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> > Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Sitrix access

[David Chittenden]

As for running Windows, I will do most of my admin work on the iPad. The 
computer will mainly be used to place my completed paperwork on the network 
drives.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 20/04/2017, at 17:58, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> That’s such a bogus reason not to install JFW.  Especially when you can 
> deploy it so it only runs for the specific users required.  All that is I 
> think is an IT department to lazy to do their jobs.  People bitch about jaws 
> or voice over and security in the mean time demanding that their favorite 
> messenger or media player is installed that really does have security 
> concerns.  (I’m sorry we can’t install JFW for you oh and get ready we’re 
> pushing out a new Java virtual machine). Right!
> 
> Not a bad work around though.  The only problem is having to run windows, 
> that would be a deal breaker for me.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:01 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks all.
>> 
>> It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
>> JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide 
>> the blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I 
>> then carry the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years 
>> of Mac and iOS.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you 
>>> can expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications 
>>> get merged with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on 
>>> both system and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote 
>>> system will just send the text to be read or braille to your local machine 
>>> and not the complete sound f of the synthesized speech. 
>>> 
 On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados  
 wrote:
 The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.
 
 Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.
 
 > On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden  
 > wrote:
 >
 > Hi All,
 >
 > I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the 
 > information drives.
 >
 > To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a 
 > secure website. This site then displays username and password fields for 
 > log in. The system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's 
 > virtual desktop.
 >
 > I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
 > accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then 
 > installed Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix 
 > Receiver worked, and again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
 >
 > Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver 
 > access to the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
 >
 > Kind regards,
 >
 > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 > Mobile: +61 488 988 936
 > Sent from my iPhone
 >
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Re: Sitrix access

[David Chittenden]

I was really hoping the iPad would work. That said, I am glad they are giving 
me the local access laptop. The desktop computers are rather underpowered. They 
merely connect to the company's intranet through the internet, using secure 
servers. They are very slow to load the worker's desktop when one logs in. They 
have very little internal memory or storage, which is why the laptop is 
provided (the office desktop cannot support Jaws.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 20/04/2017, at 17:58, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> That’s such a bogus reason not to install JFW.  Especially when you can 
> deploy it so it only runs for the specific users required.  All that is I 
> think is an IT department to lazy to do their jobs.  People bitch about jaws 
> or voice over and security in the mean time demanding that their favorite 
> messenger or media player is installed that really does have security 
> concerns.  (I’m sorry we can’t install JFW for you oh and get ready we’re 
> pushing out a new Java virtual machine). Right!
> 
> Not a bad work around though.  The only problem is having to run windows, 
> that would be a deal breaker for me.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:01 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks all.
>> 
>> It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
>> JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide 
>> the blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I 
>> then carry the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years 
>> of Mac and iOS.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you 
>>> can expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications 
>>> get merged with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on 
>>> both system and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote 
>>> system will just send the text to be read or braille to your local machine 
>>> and not the complete sound f of the synthesized speech. 
>>> 
 On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados  
 wrote:
 The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.
 
 Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.
 
 > On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden  
 > wrote:
 >
 > Hi All,
 >
 > I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the 
 > information drives.
 >
 > To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a 
 > secure website. This site then displays username and password fields for 
 > log in. The system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's 
 > virtual desktop.
 >
 > I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
 > accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then 
 > installed Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix 
 > Receiver worked, and again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
 >
 > Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver 
 > access to the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
 >
 > Kind regards,
 >
 > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 > Mobile: +61 488 988 936
 > Sent from my iPhone
 >
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Re: Sitrix access

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

The only real JAWS security snag I ran into was a particular 
anti-keylogger package which tagged JAWS as something which steals 
keystrokes - which it kind of does. End result was that JAWS couldn't 
get any keystrokes and so Windows became inaccessible. Had to uninstall 
the anti-keylogger service to fix things and they still haven't figured 
out a solution.


CB

On 4/20/17 8:05 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
Like I said, Laziness.  Here in the states companies I’ve worked for 
have been very willing to install JFW if needed or if not familiar 
learn about it and then install.  I’ve heard of the security issue 
popping up but I figure it this way, having worked for the Air Force 
and done some projects for the battle communications group and nuclear 
munitions group if they were ok with installing JFW on work stations 
attached to these networks then pretty much anyone else shouldn’t have 
any problems either.  Only thing I had to insure was that I wasn’t 
using any TTS technology that sent the text off site to a render farm 
to have the words spoken, something similar to online google TTS.  As 
long as everything was in house it was fine.  Oh and I had to wear 
headphones at all times and don’t mind the marine looking over my 
shoulder ready to put a bullet in my head if I made any moves that 
seemed like I was going all Snoden on them.;). JFW doesn’t make the 
network boys in Langley VA uneasy it doesn’t me as a matter of course. 
 They were more uneasy about me having a personal laptop that unlocked 
with Apple Watch than they were JFW.



u
On Apr 20, 2017, at 5:04 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:


Scott,
It’s a case here of ignorance regarding the products they are supporting,
It’s a case of the techs don’t know what they are doing and don’t 
wish to try and figure it out
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]*On 
Behalf Of*Scott Granados

*Sent:*Thursday, 20 April 2017 7:59 PM
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>

*Subject:*Re: Sitrix access
That’s such a bogus reason not to install JFW.  Especially when you 
can deploy it so it only runs for the specific users required.  All 
that is I think is an IT department to lazy to do their jobs.  People 
bitch about jaws or voice over and security in the mean time 
demanding that their favorite messenger or media player is installed 
that really does have security concerns.  (I’m sorry we can’t install 
JFW for you oh and get ready we’re pushing out a new Java virtual 
machine). Right!
Not a bad work around though.  The only problem is having to run 
windows, that would be a deal breaker for me.


On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:01 AM, David Chittenden
<dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks all.
It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They
will not place JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns.
However, the fix is to provide the blind employee with a laptop
which is configured for local access. I then carry the laptop
with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years of Mac and
iOS.

Kind regards,
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email:dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone


On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com
<mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and
local machine, you can expect that speech output will be
choppy as the voice communications get merged with  all the
window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on both
system and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the
remote system will just send the text to be read or braille
to your local machine and not the complete sound f of the
synthesized speech.
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados
<scott.grana...@gmail.com <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.

Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.

> On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden
<dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to
access the information drives.
>
> To be specific, the computers are set to automatically
connect into a secure website. This site then displays
username and password fields for log in. The system then
uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual desktop.
>
> I installed Citri

Re: Sitrix access

[Scott Granados]

Like I said, Laziness.  Here in the states companies I’ve worked for have been 
very willing to install JFW if needed or if not familiar learn about it and 
then install.  I’ve heard of the security issue popping up but I figure it this 
way, having worked for the Air Force and done some projects for the battle 
communications group and nuclear munitions group if they were ok with 
installing JFW on work stations attached to these networks then pretty much 
anyone else shouldn’t have any problems either.  Only thing I had to insure was 
that I wasn’t using any TTS technology that sent the text off site to a render 
farm to have the words spoken, something similar to online google TTS.  As long 
as everything was in house it was fine.  Oh and I had to wear headphones at all 
times and don’t mind the marine looking over my shoulder ready to put a bullet 
in my head if I made any moves that seemed like I was going all Snoden on 
them.;). JFW doesn’t make the network boys in Langley VA uneasy it doesn’t me 
as a matter of course.  They were more uneasy about me having a personal laptop 
that unlocked with Apple Watch than they were JFW.


u
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 5:04 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> It’s a case here of ignorance regarding the products they are supporting,
> 
> 
> It’s a case of the techs don’t know what they are doing and don’t wish to try 
> and figure it out
> 
> 
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2017 7:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Sitrix access
> 
> That’s such a bogus reason not to install JFW.  Especially when you can 
> deploy it so it only runs for the specific users required.  All that is I 
> think is an IT department to lazy to do their jobs.  People bitch about jaws 
> or voice over and security in the mean time demanding that their favorite 
> messenger or media player is installed that really does have security 
> concerns.  (I’m sorry we can’t install JFW for you oh and get ready we’re 
> pushing out a new Java virtual machine). Right!
> 
> Not a bad work around though.  The only problem is having to run windows, 
> that would be a deal breaker for me.
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:01 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Thanks all.
> 
> It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
> JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide the 
> blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I then 
> carry the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years of 
> Mac and iOS.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you 
> can expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications get 
> merged with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on both 
> system and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote system will 
> just send the text to be read or braille to your local machine and not the 
> complete sound f of the synthesized speech.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.
> 
> Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.
> 
> > On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
> > drives.
> >
> > To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a 
> > secure website. This site then displays username and password fields for 
> > log in. The system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual 
> > desktop.
> >
> > I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
> > accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then 
> > installed Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver 
> > worked, and again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
> >
> >

RE: Sitrix access

[Simon Fogarty]

Scott,

It’s a case here of ignorance regarding the products they are supporting,


It’s a case of the techs don’t know what they are doing and don’t wish to try 
and figure it out



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2017 7:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sitrix access

That’s such a bogus reason not to install JFW.  Especially when you can deploy 
it so it only runs for the specific users required.  All that is I think is an 
IT department to lazy to do their jobs.  People bitch about jaws or voice over 
and security in the mean time demanding that their favorite messenger or media 
player is installed that really does have security concerns.  (I’m sorry we 
can’t install JFW for you oh and get ready we’re pushing out a new Java virtual 
machine). Right!

Not a bad work around though.  The only problem is having to run windows, that 
would be a deal breaker for me.



On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:01 AM, David Chittenden 
<dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks all.

It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide the 
blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I then carry 
the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years of Mac and 
iOS.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn 
<jon.c.c...@gmail.com<mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you can 
expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications get merged 
with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on both system 
and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote system will just 
send the text to be read or braille to your local machine and not the complete 
sound f of the synthesized speech.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados 
<scott.grana...@gmail.com<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.

Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.

> On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden 
> <dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
> drives.
>
> To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a secure 
> website. This site then displays username and password fields for log in. The 
> system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual desktop.
>
> I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
> accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then installed 
> Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver worked, and 
> again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
>
> Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver access to 
> the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936<tel:+61%20488%20988%20936>
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RE: Sitrix access

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi David,

Your not working for the university of Otago by any chance are you?

Sounds like the sort of things they’d do.

Mind you they said they don’t know how to setup jaws within the citrix 
environment which was great as they told me I wasn’t allowed to either.

Good luck and I hope they make things work for you.

Sf\

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2017 7:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sitrix access

Thanks all.

It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide the 
blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I then carry 
the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years of Mac and 
iOS.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn 
<jon.c.c...@gmail.com<mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you can 
expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications get merged 
with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on both system 
and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote system will just 
send the text to be read or braille to your local machine and not the complete 
sound f of the synthesized speech.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados 
<scott.grana...@gmail.com<mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.

Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.

> On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden 
> <dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
> drives.
>
> To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a secure 
> website. This site then displays username and password fields for log in. The 
> system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual desktop.
>
> I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
> accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then installed 
> Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver worked, and 
> again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
>
> Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver access to 
> the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936<tel:+61%20488%20988%20936>
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Sitrix access

[Simon Fogarty]

Yes citrix does support use of jaws 

 This system that David is speaking of appears from the useage I've had of a 
very similar system doesn't play well with USB devices therefore isn't working 
well for my jaws authorisation 
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Noel Romey
Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2017 12:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sitrix access

Jaws does speak through Citrix receiver but only if (a) a repeater licemse of 
jaws which is free is installed on the Citrix server and your jaws license has 
the remote access authorization purchased. Once this is done it works quite 
well. On the Mac However I don't know of a solution to make a virtual desktop 
in Citrix accessible. I can provide more specifics if you need. 

Noel
ene

> On Apr 19, 2017, at 5:17 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> I think you've gotten to the same point of stuck that I have have with work.
> 
> We use a similar sounding product to this you speak of and again VO wont 
> speak through the citrix Remote connection and from what I have been told by 
> the techs Jaws wont speak through the remote session either..
> And as I'm the only one in my work place that uses vo I'm kind of limited.
> 
> We did try getting gjaws up and running but it didn't work when it came to 
> the authorisation key from a USB.
> 
> From what I've found with our citrix xennapps system it's a failure for 
> accessibility for screen reader users.
> 
> 
> But if I do find anything I will let you know.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Simon F
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 8:40 PM
> To: peel-the-ap...@googlegroups.com; 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Sitrix access
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
> drives.
> 
> To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a secure 
> website. This site then displays username and password fields for log in. The 
> system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual desktop.
> 
> I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
> accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then installed 
> Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver worked, and 
> again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
> 
> Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver access to 
> the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Sitrix access

[Scott Granados]

That’s such a bogus reason not to install JFW.  Especially when you can deploy 
it so it only runs for the specific users required.  All that is I think is an 
IT department to lazy to do their jobs.  People bitch about jaws or voice over 
and security in the mean time demanding that their favorite messenger or media 
player is installed that really does have security concerns.  (I’m sorry we 
can’t install JFW for you oh and get ready we’re pushing out a new Java virtual 
machine). Right!

Not a bad work around though.  The only problem is having to run windows, that 
would be a deal breaker for me.



> On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:01 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Thanks all.
> 
> It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
> JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide the 
> blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I then 
> carry the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years of 
> Mac and iOS.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
>> Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you 
>> can expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications get 
>> merged with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on both 
>> system and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote system 
>> will just send the text to be read or braille to your local machine and not 
>> the complete sound f of the synthesized speech.
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados > > wrote:
>> The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.
>> 
>> Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.
>> 
>> > On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
>> > drives.
>> >
>> > To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a 
>> > secure website. This site then displays username and password fields for 
>> > log in. The system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual 
>> > desktop.
>> >
>> > I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
>> > accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then 
>> > installed Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver 
>> > worked, and again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver access 
>> > to the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
>> > Mobile: +61 488 988 936 
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Sitrix access

[David Chittenden]

Thanks all.

It turns out, the company has two other blind employees. They will not place 
JFW on the Citrix do to security concerns. However, the fix is to provide the 
blind employee with a laptop which is configured for local access. I then carry 
the laptop with me for work. Now, back to Windows 7 after 6 years of Mac and 
iOS.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 20/04/2017, at 04:30, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you 
> can expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications get 
> merged with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on both 
> system and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote system will 
> just send the text to be read or braille to your local machine and not the 
> complete sound f of the synthesized speech. 
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados  
>> wrote:
>> The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.
>> 
>> Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.
>> 
>> > On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
>> > drives.
>> >
>> > To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a 
>> > secure website. This site then displays username and password fields for 
>> > log in. The system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual 
>> > desktop.
>> >
>> > I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
>> > accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then 
>> > installed Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver 
>> > worked, and again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver access 
>> > to the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> > Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Sitrix access

[Jonathan Cohn]

Also, unless you are running JAWS on both the remote and local machine, you
can expect that speech output will be choppy as the voice communications
get merged with  all the window activity. When JAWS or WindowEyes is run on
both system and the licensing is correctly recognized, then the remote
system will just send the text to be read or braille to your local machine
and not the complete sound f of the synthesized speech.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:35 AM Scott Granados 
wrote:

> The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.
>
> Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.
>
> > On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the
> information drives.
> >
> > To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a
> secure website. This site then displays username and password fields for
> log in. The system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual
> desktop.
> >
> > I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system
> accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then
> installed Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver
> worked, and again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
> >
> > Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver
> access to the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
> >
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Re: Sitrix access

[Scott Granados]

The only way I know of doing this is with JFW.

Virtual desktops are a tricky thing.

> On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
> drives.
> 
> To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a secure 
> website. This site then displays username and password fields for log in. The 
> system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual desktop.
> 
> I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
> accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then installed 
> Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver worked, and 
> again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
> 
> Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver access to 
> the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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Re: Sitrix access

[Noel Romey]

Jaws does speak through Citrix receiver but only if (a) a repeater licemse of 
jaws which is free is installed on the Citrix server and your jaws license has 
the remote access authorization purchased. Once this is done it works quite 
well. On the Mac However I don't know of a solution to make a virtual desktop 
in Citrix accessible. I can provide more specifics if you need. 

Noel
ene

> On Apr 19, 2017, at 5:17 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> I think you've gotten to the same point of stuck that I have have with work.
> 
> We use a similar sounding product to this you speak of and again VO wont 
> speak through the citrix Remote connection and from what I have been told by 
> the techs Jaws wont speak through the remote session either..
> And as I'm the only one in my work place that uses vo I'm kind of limited.
> 
> We did try getting gjaws up and running but it didn't work when it came to 
> the authorisation key from a USB.
> 
> From what I've found with our citrix xennapps system it's a failure for 
> accessibility for screen reader users.
> 
> 
> But if I do find anything I will let you know.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Simon F
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
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> To: peel-the-ap...@googlegroups.com; 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Sitrix access
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
> drives.
> 
> To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a secure 
> website. This site then displays username and password fields for log in. The 
> system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual desktop.
> 
> I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
> accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then installed 
> Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver worked, and 
> again, the resulting screen is not accessible.
> 
> Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver access to 
> the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Sitrix access

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi David,

 I think you've gotten to the same point of stuck that I have have with work.

 We use a similar sounding product to this you speak of and again VO wont speak 
through the citrix Remote connection and from what I have been told by the 
techs Jaws wont speak through the remote session either..
And as I'm the only one in my work place that uses vo I'm kind of limited.

 We did try getting gjaws up and running but it didn't work when it came to the 
authorisation key from a USB.

>From what I've found with our citrix xennapps system it's a failure for 
>accessibility for screen reader users.


 But if I do find anything I will let you know.

Cheers,


Simon F
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<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Sitrix access

Hi All,

I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
drives.

To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a secure 
website. This site then displays username and password fields for log in. The 
system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual desktop.

I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then installed 
Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver worked, and 
again, the resulting screen is not accessible.

Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver access to 
the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

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Sitrix access

[David Chittenden]

Hi All,

I started a new job. The company requires Citrix to access the information 
drives.

To be specific, the computers are set to automatically connect into a secure 
website. This site then displays username and password fields for log in. The 
system then uses Citrix Receiver to access the user's virtual desktop.

I installed Citrix Receiver onto an iPhone and an iPad. Once the system 
accesses through Citrix, the interface becomes inaccessible. I then installed 
Citrix Receiver onto my 2011 MacBook Air. Again, Citrix Receiver worked, and 
again, the resulting screen is not accessible.

Does anyone know of an app for iOS or Mac which will give VoiceOver access to 
the Citrix Receiver web remote interface desktop?

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

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