RE: Council Meeting

2012-04-16 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On nie 15 kwi 2012 18:53:15 CEST, quim@nokia.com wrote: 3) Get a permanent licence grant for maemo.org to ship Nokia binaries (e.g. flasher, firmware) and use them in the build process (SDKs in autobuilder and COBS). This would have practical advantage and requires formalising

Re: Council Meeting

2012-04-19 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On śro 18 kwi 2012 21:34:06 CEST, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote: I'm not holding my breath. Third party components might have been developed by subcontractors under certain premises, making things even more complicated. Aging tech also means older contracts handled by people not

Re: stuck packages fixed?

2012-04-28 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
szopin created thread on TMO, where he (and other people) list packages in repositories, that contain roadblock errors (many times for ages, some of them even passed QA). Most of them require only simple fixes, but maintainers are away etc. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83932 --- As

Repo hell?

2012-04-28 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83939 Another example of situation, that shouldn't occur in any case - unrelated package uploaded to community repos, that cause overwrite over crucial SSU package. And, despite few initial comments, it *is* actually harmful. Sure, this mess is mainly due

Re: Community Awards

2012-05-05 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
I completely agree, but wasn't sure that such solution (Council member applying for device can get one, but don't participate in deciding) won't end up in protest. I'm glad to hear, that it's natural and no-problem for everyone (at least here).

Re: Post-election and Summer(north)-Winter(south) device program

2012-05-26 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On pią 25 maj 2012 11:23:52 CEST, Timo Härkönen timop.harko...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. please join in. The meetings are held every monday @ 15:00 UTC wiki task page for the obs work here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_OBS -Timo Thanks Timo, Council's representatives will join you

Re: Maemo Community Award. vi_. N950. Job done.

2012-05-31 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On pią 01 cze 2012 05:59:57 CEST, Qole qole.tab...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, _vi, you are like the Dr. Gregory House of TMO. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Paul Sleggs psle...@gmail.com wrote: Actually LOL'ed on that... Should contain warning not safe for reading in bed @ 6:28 AM, risk of

Re: Missing source code for GPL'ed, Maemo's (5) osso-backup

2012-05-31 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
And how is that related to program being GPL'ed, yet, with sources lacking? BTW, qgil already assigned this to himself and is trying to get answer on proper channels. As for Your backup idea, never heard of backupmenu, eh? /Estel On pią 01 cze 2012 05:34:10 CEST, misterc

Re: Community Awards submission withdrawal

2012-06-14 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
Thanks a lot for info and fair play approach. It's really appreciated. /Estel On czw 14 cze 2012 10:35:57 CEST, Arto Jalkanen ajalk...@gmail.com wrote: I got accepted to the Qt 5 Mobile Projects program, so I'm withdrawing my submission in the community awards.

Re: Maemo Community Awards AllBoutN9.info

2012-06-17 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
There is no delay, Marco - submissions are accepted until 00:00 UTC. Hoever, Your submission lack basic fields required to be valid - like link to Your maemo.org and TMO accounts. Please, fix it before deadline. /Estel On nie 17 cze 2012 17:19:12 CEST, AllBoutN9 i...@allboutn9.info wrote:

Re: Draft Bylaws for Maemo Non-Profit Entity

2012-07-10 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On wto 10 lip 2012 18:06:32 CEST, robert bauer nyba...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, In order to continue the community at www.maemo.org in the future, it will be necessary to migrate much of the infrastructure and associated elements to a new site and to establish a separate entity for that

Fw: Re: Draft Bylaws for Maemo Non-Profit Entity

2012-07-10 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
---BeginMessage--- On wto 10 lip 2012 18:06:32 CEST, robert bauer nyba...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, In order to continue the community at www.maemo.org in the future, it will be necessary to migrate much of the infrastructure and associated elements to a new site and to establish a separate

Re: Draft Bylaws for Maemo Non-Profit Entity

2012-07-11 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
We don't have any jurisdiction over Mer, Jolla, and similar efforts (fortunately). Bylaws doesn't exclude collaboration - or even merging, if approriate - with such projects, but base goal is continuation of support for user of Maemo flavors (incl. Harmattan). /Estel On śro 11 lip 2012

Re: Last Call for Council Nominations And Bylaw Review

2012-09-27 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On czw 27 wrz 2012 08:49:20 CEST, and...@bleb.org wrote: Hi, If there are no candidates, thr election period is eztended by a month. If there are still insufficient candidates, it's up to the outgoong council and the Nokia Community Manager (assuming we still have one) to decide how to

Re: Last Call for Council Nominations And Bylaw Review

2012-09-27 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On czw 27 wrz 2012 12:34:53 CEST, Lucas Maneos ma...@subs.maneos.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 09:42:44AM +0200, twilight...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I see lack of candidates for Maemo Council as obvious thing - after all, we're going to have Board of Directors, which, for all

Re: Extension of Maemo Council Nomination period

2012-10-09 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
Is there a decision about extending Board election, too? Wasn't it mean to run election for both bodies + referendum about bylaws, at the same time? /Estel On wto 09 paź 2012 21:27:17 CEST, Craig Woodward wo...@rochester.rr.com wrote: As per a clarification of miscommunication within the

Re: Extension of Maemo Council Nomination period

2012-10-11 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
to incorporate a few minor changes relating to election rules to clarify issues like the ones we just had. Many thanks to those who have commented and continue to improve on them. -Craig twilight...@gmail.com twilight...@gmail.com wrote: = Is there a decision about

Foundation's Board - crisis

2012-10-20 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
According to edit appended to this post: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1282399postcount=120 ...Radall stepped down from Board, just after end of election. It was kindly brought to our attention by lma, here: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1282803postcount=9 ...and outcome here:

Re: Foundation's Board - crisis

2012-10-20 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
Unfortunately, none of propositions for handling such situation got incorporated into bylaws, and only proposition that Council have, is stretching the rules. I think, that it's clearly unfair to do so, in case of *negative* Randall's example - when, just a while ago, we disagreed to bend

Re: [HFB] Some thoughts concerning rules of engagement that fall outside of the Bylaws document...

2012-10-23 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
We (well, I) don't.  But if they are wrong, and the law forbids any non-voice conferencing, it seems quite discriminatory to me (for instance it means no one with a speech or hearing disability can serve on the board) and I'm surprised it hasn't been challenged. In light of this, are we

Re: Open Letter from the Hildon Foundation Board to the Maemo Community

2012-11-09 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On pią 09 lis 2012 10:23:07 CET, Ryan Abel rabe...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 9, 2012, at 2:36 AM, Piotr Jawidzyk twilight...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/8, Community Council: Ivan Galvez Junquera coun...@maemo.org: By Tim Samoff, chairman of the Hildon Foundation Board. Because

Re: Open Letter from the Hildon Foundation Board to the Maemo Community

2012-11-09 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On sob 10 lis 2012 03:12:49 CET, Craig Woodward wo...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Can we please, for the love of all things holy, stop beating this dead horse? Hope you don't mean Council or maemo... One of the larger things Council can do, frankly, is filter out the noise.  The Board is not

Re: Open Letter from the Hildon Foundation Board to the Maemo Community

2012-11-10 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
, that by yesterday decret, TMO moderators are keeping order on mailing list too, and I will accept any ban on mailing list, for writing above (/harmless joke). /Estel On sob 10 lis 2012 10:32:16 CET, Ruediger Gad r@gmx.de wrote: On 11/10/2012 08:40 AM, twilight...@gmail.com wrote

Re: Open Letter from the Hildon Foundation Board to the Maemo Community

2012-11-10 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On sob 10 lis 2012 14:03:30 CET, Andre Klapper andre_klap...@gmx.net wrote: On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 11:36 +0100, twilight...@gmail.com wrote: Now, even simply writing, that practice of candidating to Council and asking people, don't vote for me (instead of revoking own candidacy - to support

Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

2012-11-12 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On pon 12 lis 2012 14:22:55 CET, Fvghgtfrde Fdesfggtfrdefgtfrde blowthest...@yahoo.com wrote: By advice of helping soul from IRC and Estell (thanks, man!), i'm sending my rant here: what the hell is happening with maemo.org forum?! Today, one moment i'm posting, and two hours later i see

Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

2012-11-12 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
Ps. I have asked peterleinchen to post small annoucement in my black aluminum body replacement thread. He agreed, but now I'm not sure if he should do it. Will he also be banned (and his hundreds of posts deleted indiscriminately), just because of this? Thanks in advance, our wanna-be

Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

2012-11-12 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On pon 12 lis 2012 14:58:00 CET, Reggie Suplido reg...@internettablettalk.com wrote: Stop playing with community man. Here's the proof: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7gWTNeCMAAyhVX.png Laughable. Why you have masked rest of IP? Show it. Those two first numbers are IP range of (one of) largest

Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

2012-11-12 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On pon 12 lis 2012 14:58:00 CET, Reggie Suplido reg...@internettablettalk.com wrote: Stop playing with community man. Here's the proof: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7gWTNeCMAAyhVX.png Another thing about this pathetic incident - I see few other names listed there. While Letsee was my account

Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

2012-11-12 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On pon 12 lis 2012 16:20:25 CET, Ilya Skriblovsky ilyaskriblov...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just want to add some fresh opinion to this horrible flame. It's fresh because I don't really know the background: I don't know why Estel was banned and why it is so opposite to the Council. (Though

Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

2012-11-12 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
Ps. It was my last message on this matter, so sorry JCDentom, that you got problems, even if its not my fault. I'm disgusted by even thinking of participating in such corrupted, rotten, and hopeless place, as TMO turned to be in just one day. If my foot will ever step there again, it will be

Fw: Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

2012-11-12 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
---BeginMessage--- On pon 12 lis 2012 20:37:56 CET, Marcin Mielniczuk marmis...@linux.pl wrote: I have been banned due to, exactly, this post: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1287822postcount=48 What? You were banned because you said your opinion about candidation? Don't we have the

Fw: Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

2012-11-12 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
---BeginMessage--- On pon 12 lis 2012 15:12:14 CET, Mohammad Abu-Garbeyyeh mohammad7...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 12, 2012 4:09 PM, twilight...@gmail.com twilight...@gmail.com wrote: On pon 12 lis 2012 14:58:00 CET, Reggie Suplido reg...@internettablettalk.com wrote: Stop playing

Fw: Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

2012-11-12 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
---BeginMessage--- On pon 12 lis 2012 21:32:18 CET, Andre Klapper andre_klap...@gmx.net wrote: On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 20:01 +0100, twilight...@gmail.com wrote: I have been banned due to, exactly, this post: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1287822postcount=48 It has been mentioned

Re: Fw: Re: Banned from maemo.org - someone went ape shit nuts?!

2012-11-12 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
On pon 12 lis 2012 22:33:14 CET, Cosimo Kroll zehjot...@googlemail.com wrote: Just had to clarify: Estel did not leave council on his own purpose. He was politely asked to leave because he ordered parts for his private CNC machine via councils .org mail-address without asking the rest of

Re: maemo.org infra safety - HiFo action URGENTLY needed.

2014-03-11 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
From the whole conversation (minus personal attacks), we have a clear picture of one person having too much control over Maemo infrastructure, paired with unresponsible/unpredictable behavior. Cutting the whose fault it is part, the real question is: Can Community fix it now, or Maemo infra

Re: Resignation of Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer*/joerg_rw) from Maemo Council

2014-10-19 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
Post scriptum, for anyone too lazy to check sources: On Sat Oct 18 20:39:26 2014 Peter Leinchen peterleinc...@t-online.de wrote: http://maemo.org/community/council/2014-10-14_meeting_minutes/ Topic (DocScrutinizer/joerg_rw stepped down from Council!): * Joerg kept quiet and did not see the

Re: Resignation of Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer*/joerg_rw) from Maemo Council

2014-10-20 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
In case anyone missed it, buried under fanboys screaming - my point is that Community DESERVES honesty from people representing it. Just because., but also because those that doesn't know history are doomed to repeat it, or so the say. It apply to our small-scale Maemo's history, too. People

Re: Resignation of Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer*/joerg_rw) from Maemo Council

2014-10-21 Thread twilight...@gmail.com
While I don't mind (clearly, invaluable) input from long-absent individuals, that neither had anything to do nor have any idea about the problem at hand - I would still like to get some official answer from the person responsible for annoucement - why, in the thin line between diplomatic and