RE: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread Wei Zhou
Little out of topic. Just talk about the stylus. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarah Newman > Sent: 2008年9月5日 0:01 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: maemo-developers > Subject: Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch > by

Status bar plugin problems

2008-09-04 Thread Eugene Antimirov
Hi all! I'm looking for the right way to develop a status bar plugin. At the moment there is a problem here. As I've found from wiki at maemo.org to kill running SB plugin I have to remove this file: /usr/share/applications/hildon-status-bar/applet.desktop so then I replace old libapplet.so fil

Re: Moderator speak up - is maemo multitouch thread ok or not

2008-09-04 Thread maemo
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Darius Jack wrote: > I am really surprised, there is a small group of maemo developers > showing interest not to discuss maemo multitouch and showing interest to have > maemo no-multitouch in next years. > > Quite contrary to iPhone developers , doing their best to make iPhon

Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread P. Durante
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Benoît HERVIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/9/4 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Darius Jack wrote: >> Instead of just arguing (which is quite annoying BTW), why dont you write >> some code or take your comments offlist? This tirade serves no purpose

Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread Sarah Newman
I would not expect the lower precision of a capacitive touch screen to be a barrier for the user if it's a small enough ratio, but you could convince me otherwise. 2 or 4x seems doable. So then the barrier is stylus usage. Why do we want a stylus? The cold weather, physical and/or mental comf

Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread Benoît HERVIER
2008/9/4 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Darius Jack wrote: > Instead of just arguing (which is quite annoying BTW), why dont you write > some code or take your comments offlist? This tirade serves no purpose. #!/usr/python2.5 def __mail__(): import grumphy text = str(self) + "\n

Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread David Greaves
Darius Jack wrote: > Multitouch is hot and market added value. Sarah Newman wrote: > I am 99.99% certain the internet tablets use resistive touch screens, So being resistive I guess they're technically hotter than capacitive ones? /me ducks David __

RE: Moderator speak up - is maemo multitouch thread ok or not

2008-09-04 Thread Simon Pickering
> I am really surprised, there is a small group of maemo developers > showing interest not to discuss maemo multitouch and showing > interest to have maemo no-multitouch in next years. I think Igor was fairly explicit in what he said, capacitive multi-touch was not very precise, therefore a resi

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2008-09-04 Thread Darius Jack
Aniello, you are against maemo multitouch development and you are free to ban yourself any time. But you can't stop others to work on maemo multitouch development. bye bye no reply Aniello welcome in my trash --- On Thu, 4/9/08, Aniello Del Sorbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Aniello De

Moderator speak up - is maemo multitouch thread ok or not

2008-09-04 Thread Darius Jack
I am really surprised, there is a small group of maemo developers showing interest not to discuss maemo multitouch and showing interest to have maemo no-multitouch in next years. Quite contrary to iPhone developers , doing their best to make iPhone No.1 gizmo. Multitouch is hot and market added

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2008-09-04 Thread Darius Jack
(cut for clarity) > Don't care about Aniello Del Sorbo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > He's a known mega troll not caring for development of better maemo , > meant multitouch solutions > mayby working for a competitors > Remove Aniello from your subscription and mailing lists. Send instant messag

Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread gary liquid
the touch screen resolution is even more than that, it has a native resolution of: x res of ~~~ 3500 units, and y res of ~~~ 3100 units. These are typically scaled to the screen by calibration process but are readable using the xsp extension. :D On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Eero Tamminen <[

Re: Ooops!

2008-09-04 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
ehehehe :D On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM, gary liquid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > heh, > from now on, you are gonna be called Dave "Diebold" Neary :D > > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Yesterday evening, on popular request, I committed

Re: Ooops!

2008-09-04 Thread gary liquid
heh, from now on, you are gonna be called Dave "Diebold" Neary :D On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Yesterday evening, on popular request, I committed a patch to the > elections scripts to add a link to candidate declarations at the top of > Step

Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Igor Stoppa wrote: > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 06:48 -0700, ext Sarah Newman wrote: >> I am 99.99% certain the internet tablets use resistive touch screens, >> which means this underlying technology cannot do multitouch. > > Yes, it's resistive and resisitive ts have (had) higher resolution

Ooops!

2008-09-04 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all, Yesterday evening, on popular request, I committed a patch to the elections scripts to add a link to candidate declarations at the top of Step 2 of the voting process. The voting site was updated this morning by Henri. Alas! I didn't properly test the change before committing, and omitted

Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 06:48 -0700, ext Sarah Newman wrote: > I am 99.99% certain the internet tablets use resistive touch screens, > which means this underlying technology cannot do multitouch. Yes, it's resistive and resisitive ts have (had) higher resolution than capacitive ones. The iphone do

Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread Sarah Newman
I am 99.99% certain the internet tablets use resistive touch screens, which means this underlying technology cannot do multitouch. Using more than one contact point on these screens will change a reading, but it won't get the result you want. It will be an intermediate reading between the multi

Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
Don't care about him. He's a known troll. Someone discovered he's well known all over various mailing lists (particularly Poland). Look at: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2008-June/033850.html and following replies... -- Aniello On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:16 PM, <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread maemo
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Darius Jack wrote: > COULD YOU STOP SPAMMING THIS LIST ? THANKS ! Instead of just arguing (which is quite annoying BTW), why dont you write some code or take your comments offlist? This tirade serves no purpose. -- A ___ maemo-d

Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread Darius Jack
Hi, you said: " > There is no native multi touch on these devices. " Who said otherwise ? You can call my experience with maemo multitouch side-effect. Ok. But it works for me. I use both iPod Touch and maemo. It works how it works but works (side-effect or alike) ;) you asked " have you ever ac

Re: SDK, sources Re: On the problem of Nokia bugs substituting changelogs

2008-09-04 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Quim Gil wrote: > (It is discouraged to install SDK packages in the devices. If someone > wants to do this fine but as the own post you link says it might be > *hazardous*. OK. We are also discouraged from having root access on the device ;-) The hazardous part here was mainly installing old pac

Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread gary liquid
Darius, You say you work with lots of groups, have you ever actually done any coding for maemo and obtained actual coordinates of the distinct multitouch hotspots as you touch it? I would love to see examples of your code because multitouch would be a nice feature to have. You will find I am acti

Re: SDK, sources Re: On the problem of Nokia bugs substituting changelogs

2008-09-04 Thread Quim Gil
Hi there, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > Frantisek Dufka wrote: > >> So will we get updated SDK release with sources for latest Diablo >> update (and any further one too)? > > No answer, looks like people responsible are busy with more important > stuff. http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo4.1/

Re: SDK, sources Re: On the problem of Nokia bugs substituting changelogs

2008-09-04 Thread Daniel Martín Yerga
Hi. I opened the last week the bug 3648 about this problem. There is a comment explaining why the sources aren't in the repository yet. Sorry for the top posting, I am writing this in a small mobile client. 2008/9/4, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Frantisek Dufka wrote: > >> So will we ge

Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread Darius Jack
2 finger scrolling was meant as blob recognition feature. Darius --- On Wed, 3/9/08, Eric Warnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Eric Warnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: maemo-developers@ma

Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread Darius Jack
My dear friend, I welcome your comments on multitouch howto. I work in my spare time with one multitouch group in Japan, another in UK, one again in Sweden, not to say New York, MIT , UoT. So multitouch in maemo works as it works. I can use 2 fingers to move web page horizontally ( it works for s

Re: SDK, sources Re: On the problem of Nokia bugs substituting changelogs

2008-09-04 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Frantisek Dufka wrote: > So will we get updated SDK release with sources for latest Diablo update > (and any further one too)? No answer, looks like people responsible are busy with more important stuff. Just an additional info - old SDK also hurts people when doing development directly on tab