Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread quim.gil
> > I agree. Maybe I'm wrong but I think Hildon updates are possible in > > Fremantle. As long as the new widgets make sense, the patches are good and > > they are well tested by the community and don't introduce risks or > > regressions... Why not? > > Because there's a perceived *risk* of risks &

Scanning OSK for Maemo

2009-09-29 Thread Jorge Silva
Hola, I am interested in incorporating a self-scanning feature on the Maemo OSK so that people with fine motor impairments may enter text by tapping anywhere on the screen or keyboard. Would anybody be interested in helping me get to the appropriate files/code where I could get started writ

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:39:37PM +0300, Claudio Saavedra wrote: > > The first obvious problem is that we would end up having two > > similar versions of the same library installed, and that > > means more disk and memory, apart from the inability to use > > maemo-launcher. > > Can you elaborate

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Claudio Saavedra
El mar, 29-09-2009 a las 18:41 +0200, Alberto Garcia escribió: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 06:08:00PM +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > > > > we can perfectly create a parallel installable version of the > > > same library, that the community can maintain in extras and link > > > against in their appli

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Felipe Erias Morandeira
Hi, I have created a small mockup of a possible HildonExtrasColorChooserDialog. It uses a view in Edit mode (is that the correct term?) to be able to fit the colorwheel in the screen without making it too small. On the left, there is space for the six last used colors. On the right, the use can ad

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 06:08:00PM +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > > we can perfectly create a parallel installable version of the > > same library, that the community can maintain in extras and link > > against in their applications. > > Yes, but there are some practical problems about that. The

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 06:19:04PM +0200, Javier Jardón wrote: > > Hildon could perfectly move forward, with new widgets and all the > > bug fixes that the community wants to see. If Nokia doesn't react > > to that, we can perfectly create a parallel installable version of > > the same library, th

Re: Diablo Libssl broken in extras-devel

2009-09-29 Thread Andrea Borgia
Thomas Schmidt ha scritto: > IMHO you should be able to fix the problem by yourself, just by > uploading a new version 0.7.20-maemo2 without any changes apart from the > new changelog-entry. As long as the broken libssl has been removed from > the repository, the new version of osm2go should be bu

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Javier Jardón
2009/9/29 Claudio Saavedra : > Hildon could perfectly move forward, with new widgets and all the bug > fixes that the community wants to see. If Nokia doesn't react to that, > we can perfectly create a parallel installable version of the same > library, that the community can maintain in extras and

Re: Asking for developers and user support for a N900 application

2009-09-29 Thread Adrián Yanes
Hi Andrea, I think that the idea of make a program for check the credit sale it's very nice. But I can't understand why you choose the option of check via web and not use the GSM commands. For example in Spain, the people with prepaid probably they haven't 3G/GPRS connection (and if they have one

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Claudio Saavedra writes: > Well, that's too much of tinkering with libraries when this is not a > library issue, but a distribution problem. Maemo is a distribution and > has a problem. It needs to be fixed at the distribution level. I agree. > Hildon could perfectly move forward, with new

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 15:18, wrote: >> No, you are right, it should not be hard to accept contributions to >> libhildon. > > I agree. Maybe I'm wrong but I think Hildon updates are possible in > Fremantle. As long as the new widgets make sense, the patches are good and > they are well tested by

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Marius Vollmer
"Hamalainen Kimmo (Nokia-D/Helsinki)" writes: > What prevents the community from releasing this "unstable" libhildon > before Nokia does the "stable" release? The unstable release would not be of much use since people can not easily install it on their devices. Right now, we have a very strict

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread quim.gil
> No, you are right, it should not be hard to accept contributions to > libhildon. I agree. Maybe I'm wrong but I think Hildon updates are possible in Fremantle. As long as the new widgets make sense, the patches are good and they are well tested by the community and don't introduce risks or reg

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Claudio Saavedra
El mar, 29-09-2009 a las 16:54 +0300, Marius Vollmer escribió: > > > > If there really is a problem then there is only one other > alternative I see: > > work in Hildon (or a fork) and allow the community to release an > alternative > > to the standard hildon libraries (under a different librar

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Andrew Olmsted
Hi all, I have released countdown-home 0.5-8 to extras-testing for Fremantle. I have gotten some initial positive feedback for the colour and font selection I use. I have made the font selection and colour selection widgets as self-contained as possible - they are not integrated in any way in

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 14:49 +0200, Vollmer Marius (Nokia-D/Helsinki) wrote: > ext Claudio Saavedra writes: > > > To be realistic, I don't think you'll have your library ready by the > > time Fremantle ships either, so I don't see that as a real problem. > > The problem is that after Fremantle sh

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread gary liquid
can i have a recap from what i know now, there are 2 sortof nearly good finger friendly color selection dialog tests in use in two different apps and some python test code all of which is better than the not very finger friendly but standard implementations. we now seem to have stopped dead with

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Graham Cobb writes: > Due to the signing stuff the community cannot replace > Hildon even if we wanted to. You can: create a package called libhildon-community (or similar) and have it Conflict, Replace, and Provide libhildon1. Then the Application manager should allow it to be installed a

Re: Becoming root in maemo 4 SDK

2009-09-29 Thread Akshey Jawa
Thanks On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Artem Semenov wrote: > http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access > > Artem Semenov > Software Developer > XenZu Technologies > Email: artseme...@xenzu.com > > > > [29.09.2009 17:39] From: Akshey Jawa: > >> Hi, >> >> How to become root in maemo 4 sdk? >> >> Akshey

RE: Becoming root in maemo 4 SDK

2009-09-29 Thread Simon Pickering
Use the fakeroot command [1]. Cheers, Simon 1. http://www.scratchbox.org/documentation/user/scratchbox-1.0/html/fakeroo t.html > -Original Message- > From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org > [mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Akshey Jawa > Sent: 29 September 2

Re: Becoming root in maemo 4 SDK

2009-09-29 Thread Artem Semenov
http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access Artem Semenov Software Developer XenZu Technologies Email: artseme...@xenzu.com [29.09.2009 17:39] From: Akshey Jawa: > Hi, > > How to become root in maemo 4 sdk? > > Akshey > > >

Becoming root in maemo 4 SDK

2009-09-29 Thread Akshey Jawa
Hi, How to become root in maemo 4 sdk? Akshey ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Graham Cobb
On Tuesday 29 September 2009 13:49:10 Marius Vollmer wrote: > ext Claudio Saavedra writes: > > To be realistic, I don't think you'll have your library ready by the > > time Fremantle ships either, so I don't see that as a real problem. > > The problem is that after Fremantle ships, libhildon is fr

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Claudio Saavedra writes: > To be realistic, I don't think you'll have your library ready by the > time Fremantle ships either, so I don't see that as a real problem. The problem is that after Fremantle ships, libhildon is frozen for a long time. It is prudent to assume that there will be no

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 15:11 +0300, Claudio Saavedra wrote: > > Input from Nokia would be very welcome (and in my new role I will be asking > > for some). However, I am sure that there is no way that any more widgets > > are > > going to be added to Hildon before Fremantle ships. > > To be real

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 13:11, Claudio Saavedra wrote: > [big snip of lot's of sensible stuff] > > I don't see the need to divert before even attempting to join the > project. I think the chance of Nokia shipping an updated libhildon, containing community widgets, during Fremantle's *lifetime* is

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Claudio Saavedra
El mar, 29-09-2009 a las 12:51 +0100, Graham Cobb escribió: > On Tuesday 29 September 2009 11:39:05 Claudio Saavedra wrote: > > If you avoid having symbol clashing by using a different name for the > > widgets in the hypotetical library, if/when these go into hildon you'll > > have to deprecate the

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Graham Cobb
On Tuesday 29 September 2009 11:39:05 Claudio Saavedra wrote: > If you avoid having symbol clashing by using a different name for the > widgets in the hypotetical library, if/when these go into hildon you'll > have to deprecate them and still carry them around for people without > time to migrate t

Re: Hildon upstream development

2009-09-29 Thread Quim Gil
ext Cornelius Hald wrote: > On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 15:22 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: >> Am Freitag, den 25.09.2009, 14:19 +0200 schrieb Cornelius Hald: >>> Marius Vollmer wrote: "Gil Quim (Nokia-D/Helsinki)" writes: > Think also that as the Maemo team at Nokia moves their focus on p

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Claudio Saavedra
El mar, 29-09-2009 a las 11:11 +0100, Graham Cobb escribió: > > So, I agree that a real community library is a better solution, > although it has its own problems with maintenance (particularly for > widgets which do get adopted by Hildon but with some changes). But at > least they can be solved

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 12:43 +0300, Claudio Saavedra wrote: > El lun, 28-09-2009 a las 15:08 +0100, Graham Cobb escribió: > > why not develop them initially as pieces of standalone code that > > people include (as source code) into their projects to use, for now? > > Have you heard of libegg? If yo

Re: Name for community widgets project

2009-09-29 Thread Henrik Hedberg
Cornelius Hald wrote: > it looks like some people are interested in the Fremantle community > widgets project. What we need now (amongst other things) is a name. > > The following names have already been mentioned: > > - hildon-extras -> HildonExtrasColorChooser > - hexy -> HexyColorChooser > >

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Graham Cobb
On Tuesday 29 September 2009 10:43:20 Claudio Saavedra wrote: > El lun, 28-09-2009 a las 15:08 +0100, Graham Cobb escribió: > > why not develop them initially as pieces of standalone code that > > people include (as source code) into their projects to use, for now? > > Have you heard of libegg? If

Re: Name for community widgets project

2009-09-29 Thread Graham Cobb
On Tuesday 29 September 2009 10:22:44 Cornelius Hald wrote: > it looks like some people are interested in the Fremantle community > widgets project. What we need now (amongst other things) is a name. > > The following names have already been mentioned: > > - hildon-extras -> HildonExtrasColorChoose

Re: hildron_entry and activate signal

2009-09-29 Thread Fred Lefévère-Laoide
Le 29/09/2009 11:38, Claudio Saavedra a écrit : > El mar, 29-09-2009 a las 10:33 +0200, Fred Lefévère-Laoide escribió: >> Hi Cornelius, >> >> I tried Enter and Return on my keyboard : no dice ! >> >> I suppose I'll try the gtk_widget_activate way for debugging purpose. >> >> Can anyone confirm this

Re: Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-29 Thread Claudio Saavedra
El lun, 28-09-2009 a las 15:08 +0100, Graham Cobb escribió: > why not develop them initially as pieces of standalone code that > people include (as source code) into their projects to use, for now? Have you heard of libegg? If you haven't, I'd suggest you to go google for discussions on its exista

Re: hildron_entry and activate signal

2009-09-29 Thread Claudio Saavedra
El mar, 29-09-2009 a las 10:33 +0200, Fred Lefévère-Laoide escribió: > Hi Cornelius, > > I tried Enter and Return on my keyboard : no dice ! > > I suppose I'll try the gtk_widget_activate way for debugging purpose. > > Can anyone confirm this behavior in the SDK so that I can open a bug ? You d

Re: Hildon upstream development

2009-09-29 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 15:22 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > Am Freitag, den 25.09.2009, 14:19 +0200 schrieb Cornelius Hald: > > Marius Vollmer wrote: > > > "Gil Quim (Nokia-D/Helsinki)" writes: > > > > > >> Think also that as the Maemo team at Nokia moves their focus on platform > > >> development

Re: hildron_entry and activate signal

2009-09-29 Thread Graham Cobb
On Tuesday 29 September 2009 09:33:33 Fred Lefévère-Laoide wrote: > I tried Enter and Return on my keyboard : no dice ! I have a similar search entry in the toolbar in gpe-contacts. And, although I am not in a position to test it at the moment, I think it does work in scratchbox. However, I am

Name for community widgets project

2009-09-29 Thread Cornelius Hald
Hi, it looks like some people are interested in the Fremantle community widgets project. What we need now (amongst other things) is a name. The following names have already been mentioned: - hildon-extras -> HildonExtrasColorChooser - hexy -> HexyColorChooser Others ideas? Conny

Re: git push problem at git.maemo.org

2009-09-29 Thread Ferenc Szekely
Hello, Benoît HERVIER wrote: > Did you want i submit a bug in bugs.maemo.org ? > Yes, please do so. Quite frankly: I never tested svn->git conversion with an empty svn to start with. I know where the process fails, should be easy to fix. Cheers, ferenc > Le 29 septembre 2009 06:22, Benoît HERVI

Re: hildron_entry and activate signal

2009-09-29 Thread Fred Lefévère-Laoide
Hi Cornelius, I tried Enter and Return on my keyboard : no dice ! I suppose I'll try the gtk_widget_activate way for debugging purpose. Can anyone confirm this behavior in the SDK so that I can open a bug ? Fred Le 29/09/2009 09:41, Cornelius Hald a écrit : > Hi Fred, > > I just tried the "act

Re: hildron_entry and activate signal

2009-09-29 Thread Cornelius Hald
Hi Fred, I just tried the "activate" signal on HildonEntry and as expected. The problem, that you cannot activate in scratchbox might be, that the 'Enter' key of our tablets is emitting a 'Keypad-Enter' signal. So to activate a widget you have to press the 'Enter' key on the keypad. Another way (