On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 09:30 +0300, Santtu Lakkala wrote:
> Murray Cumming wrote:
> > So I think that the (wrongly formatted) documentation is wrong when it says
> > that it is the
> > "Number of minutes between each recurrence" here:
> > ht
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, you should try using gdb or valgrind when something crashes.
However, if this simple test case crashes then it suggests that
something is very wrong with your installation.
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#include
static gboolean delete_event_cb( GtkWidge
de. And if there's really a problem then it will
help people to fix it.
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that I haven't tried this yet, because the SDK script requires me
to upgrade my scratchbox minor version, which I'd rather not risk just
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On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 13:53 +0300, Mika Yrjölä wrote:
> On 7/11/07, Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Some applications seem to handle the "top_application" D-Bus method. I
> > guess that this is maybe sent to the application when it's launched from
later when it's launched from the menu.
But I can't find any real documentation for this D-Bus method. I'd
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On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 20:40 +0200, Kees Jongenburger wrote:
> On 7/6/07, Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 12:29 +0300, Juha Kallioinen wrote:
> > > Maybe I'm being a bit too 'Big Brotherly' with this approach, what do
's just some
new cool mysterious app that they installed but were unhappy about not
seeing in the menu.
It would be nice to have a more sensible way of making them visible
though.
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because the whole point is that the connection is going up and down and
changing to different Access Points.
The best applications for the internet tablet will be ones that work well with
the network. So that needs to be easier to develop.
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15
; help me out of this problem.
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On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 07:09 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Note that Eclipse is open source software and not
> commercial.
It's very much both, as is most of Maemo. You know better than to
confuse commercial/proprietary.
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Is this possible yet? Assuming that the sardine repository is the future
Maemo Chinook version, I will want to upload and test packages before
Maemo Chinook is actually released.
On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 23:18 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> Is there any way I can upload extras (previously "
manage that, you
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On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 15:16 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 18:38 +0300, Kuosmanen Tuomas (Nokia-M/Helsinki)
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 15:11 +0200, ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 18:11 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> >
. Obviously a user can
move and resize windows on a regular GNOME desktop.
That seems to be a fairly sane decision by the Maemo UI people in order
to simplify the UI. It might not be to everyone's liking.
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about it:
http://code.google.com/soc/gnome/appinfo.html?csaid=5F12F4E8AE21EC05
(There are bugzilla links there)
VMWare have a "WrapLabel" workaround for this in their libview library,
though you might need to port the logic from C++ to C:
http://view.sourceforge.net/
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wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 15:11 +0200, ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 18:11 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > > I can't find anything in the various Maemo documents about the stan
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 18:11 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> I can't find anything in the various Maemo documents about the standard
> spacing that Maemo applications should have between and around widgets.
> For instance, for the GNOME HIG, this is usually 6 pixels between
> widg
ared queries can then be defined to generate lists of items that
> contain some arbitrary combination of terms for one or more
> vocabularies.
>
> Of course, this project is a unique opportunity to gather extensive
> input from the community as to what people's specific needs are, and
> the development of this project should reflect the needs of the
> community, rather than make stringent choices and cast a design set in
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enhancement requests and making
> sure bug reports meet basic standards (templates for new bug reports?).
It would be a big help if maemo's bugzilla could be upgraded.
For instance, it's much easier to browse bugs for GNOME products and get
an idea of what is happening:
s/gup/hig/2.0/design-window.html
This seems like something that should be in the Maemo porting guide
http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_porting_to_maemo_bora.html
as well as the UI specification:
http://www.maemo.org/community/hildon_ui.html
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> > 'All' installable applications. Chasing down the path, I can clearly see
> > the .deb itself available:
> >
> > http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/3.0/free/h/hildon-fmmm/
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
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> > as it uses pango/cairo.
>
> Ah, that explains it. I'd like to follow the progress on that bugzilla
> ticket, but I don't see any mechanism to add myself as a CC.
The field is at the top-right.
> If you
> have permissions to do that, can you append the email a
first idea came from
> the community anyway, so why not leading as well with candidate
> projects, mentors and students.
Don't forget that you'll need Mentors who have the time to help the
students to complete the task. So be careful not to suggest projects
that have no existin
oration and the focus on future
> plans.
>
> On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 10:59 +0200, Gil Quim (Nokia-M/Helsinki) wrote:
> > http://maemo.org/platform/docs/roadmap.html
> >
> > This page needs an update. I will help getting this page on shape.
> > This upda
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 09:59 -0600, Levi Bard wrote:
[snip]
> most webmail clients (gmail at least) don't
> allow you to filter on these headers
[snip]
In gmail, you can filter on the recipients using the labels feature.
It's not perfect but it mostly works.
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e.
Someone will complain about whatever mailing list setup you use,
however. Even me.
> If so we could get rid completely of them.
> What is true is that the current flags are difficulting subject
> readability in 800px width resolution screens.
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> About the flags in the email subject, is this a problem? I can live
> with/without them, no strong opinion here.
It's annoying to me.
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> >- If what you're trying to do involves scratchbox, it's maemo-appdev@
> >- If what you're trying to do involves hacks on the device
> >(such as using xterm), it's maemo-users@
> >- Otherwise, it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] or wha
nient features, which may
> not ever get there, since it works already..
>
>
> PS. For Bora.
Well done. Did you need to use any additional Maemo API that you'd like
to have wrapped for C++?
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However, you can make it more readable for me by removing the huge
[maemo-developers] prefix from the subject lines.
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ions of the Maemo APIs, and maintain the packages. Like I say, it
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Reading Package Lists... Done
> [sbox-ARMEL: ~] > fakeroot apt-get install libhildon-libsmm-dev
> libhildon-fmmm-dev
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> E: Couldn't find package libhildon-libsmm-dev
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such as "gnome-2-14", which is nice and simple.
Someone really needs to put this information online, such as on this
page:
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/MaemoModules/3%2e0
However, I asked for this information for Maemo 1.0, 2.0, and 2.1. I'm
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ource?
And does it use any existing open standards? For instance, is the
bluetooth GPS data communicated via some standard protocol/format so
that it can be expected to work with non-Nokia GPS devices?
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your own application. It's a lot of work.
Code written with gtkmm is really very different to code written for GTK
+, because of all those C++ techniques that are easily available. It's
far more than just syntatic sugar.
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We do have several hints/options for other issues already.
> Nevertheless, I am going to apply the patch. Eventually. :-)
Thanks. That's the simplest fix.
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politely somewhere so
people can argue about that separately. It seems rather unfounded just
mentioned off-the-cuff like that.
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photo-manipulation program and bearing all the hallmarks of inexpert
design."
It's also not clear whether you are criticising GTK+ (just a toolkit) or
GIMP (It's UI is getting better all the time and I'm sure they'd welcome
const
he feeling the obscuring-things-popup was displaying broadcast
> system messages, but messages like 'deleting' shouldn't have to be
> broadcast.
>
> Stronger app integration through dragging/routing would be nice.
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ild the Mistral ones
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On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 12:11 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > Enjoy: http://sardine.garage.maemo.org/
>
> Thank you. Works for me.
However, I'm now getting these errors when starting some simple
examples:
process 21335: D-Bus library appears to be incorrectly set up; failed to
munity, to deal with issues on the mailing lists, and the
simple patches in Maemo's bugzilla. So that Nokia can benefit from them.
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product release plans too far ahead of time.
In the meantime, we can at least see what's happening as it happens, and
that's pretty good. And at least Maemo is largely built on other
open-source projects that do have independent schedules.
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GTK+. If not, is there a Maemo bug
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ildon-widgetsmm.
I'd rather not fork gtkmm's source just so it can be packaged, but I
will if you really need it.
Alternatively, you should find what you need here:
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> makefile customization for each arch/cpu/set of prefs, and it would be
> less than fun to script this for an automated build.
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Thank you. Works for me.
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That's very useful. Thanks.
How about HildonCodeDialog?
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packages for all versions (Ubuntu breezy, dapper, edgy, feisty), and all
architectures (i386, PPC, etc).
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run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libx11-dev: Depends: xtrans-dev but it is not installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
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On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 14:04 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote:
> ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 22:58 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote:
> >
> >> Sardine is back. The Sardine distro was restarted with the newer
> >> Maemo
> >> 2.1 baseli
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 22:58 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote:
> Sardine is back. The Sardine distro was restarted with the newer
> Maemo
> 2.1 baseline and an older glib.
[snip]
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On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 13:01 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 15:04 +0300, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 14:58, ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> > ...
> > > Could you at least put together a one sentence description of what this
> &
On Fri, 2006-11-24 at 11:50 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Murray Cumming schreef:
> > On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 18:02 +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 15:13 +0200, ext Tommi Komulainen wrote
ty effort around Java. It would also make our lives
> easier when the question about integrating Java comes up again.
So, something for a new garage.maemo.org project. Then we can just
apt-get install it from extras.
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other.
> Now that the packages and the build environment are in a good shape it's
> time to get strict about the "one build for one version"
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06 at 03:55:17PM +0100, ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> > Is the source (XML?) for the Maemo tutorial in svn anywhere?
> > http://maemo.org/platform/docs/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial.html
> >
> > I'd like to see if it's being updated for the latest APIs in svn a
Is the source (XML?) for the Maemo tutorial in svn anywhere?
http://maemo.org/platform/docs/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial.html
I'd like to see if it's being updated for the latest APIs in svn and
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ications.
I think most of this is in regular bugzilla, though we maybe have one or
two patches. I'm sure that gnome-bugsquad@gnome.org would be happy to
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the maemo bugzilla. Could someone take a look?
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On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 10:28 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> I'm fairly sure that the mistral->sardine upgrade is deleting
> my /etc/apt/sources.list file. Is it just me?
It wasn't just me, and it's fixed, apparently:
https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=811
-
On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 17:19 +0300, Markku Vire wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Murray Cumming wrote:
> > The documentation for hildon_file_chooser_dialog_set_safe_folder():
> > http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/api/hildon-docs/fm-html/hildon-fm-HildonFileChooserDialog.html#hildon-file-ch
ation change fails."
What is "automatic location change" and when might it fail?
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bug-free before it is packaged then
it will never become relatively bug-free, because it needs to be
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>
> Definitely we could use more people.
> You'll notice we are hiring, we currently have a couple of positions
> open in nokia.com/careers, and we'll have more.
> http://careers.nokia.com/nokia/hr/rec
Has anyone upgraded to Ubuntu Edgy yet? Is the maemo/scratchbox
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On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 14:48 +0300, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 13:33 +0200, ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> > But I get an error when trying to init the af system:
> >
> > [sbox-SDK_maemo2.0_686: ~] > af-sb-init.sh start
> > /usr/bin/af-sb-init.
r/bin/af-sb-init.sh: line 40: /etc/osso-af-init/locale: No such file
or directory
Is there something I should install or dpkg-reconfigure to set that up
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On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 15:04 +0300, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 14:58, ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> ...
> > Could you at least put together a one sentence description of what this
> > module does?
>
> Ok, I'll put it to trunk. Damn, had to yield a l
On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 14:36 +0300, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 14:04, ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 13:45 +0300, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > Yes, it does not tell the reasons for the changes (they are in
> > &g
On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 13:04 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 13:45 +0300, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
> [snip]
> > Yes, it does not tell the reasons for the changes (they are in
> > debian/changelog), but I'm too lazy to put those since you seem to be
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It's your module, but it would help me.
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On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 13:11 +0300, Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 12:37, ext Murray Cumming wrote:
> > Is the source in the maemo svn for libosso up to date?
>
> Yes.
>
> > I am surprised that there are no recent ChangeLog entries:
> > https://stag
*** [all] Error 2
*** error during stage build of libosso: Error running make *** [6/8]
[1] though my compiler might be different because I'm trying once more
(stupidly) with scratchbox 1.0.5, because I need it for another
codebase, and I can't have two scratchboxes on one PC.
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egrated into moinmoin
> (the wiki engine maemo.org uses)? Or shall we just leave the situation
> as is and revert the pages manually?
>
> I would appreciate your thoughts and comments on this issue.
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On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 22:29 +0300, Jarkko Palviainen wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 22:10:58 +0300, Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2006-09-02 at 13:14 +0300, Jarkko Palviainen wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I'm trying to build simple
rmel.deb
So, the question is, why do your hildon-*mm packages appear in a
libhildon*mm directory:
http://repository.maemo.org/contrib/pool/2.0/free/libh/libhildon-fmmm/
instead of a hildon*mm directory.
> Another question: Is it possible to remove packages from the repositry
> because e.
la - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
> >
> > iD8DBQFE3Gkw7Dsf+G5b/WsRAgo5AKC3aWRwDGfjOFzvYvO/DQCapWlQRgCg8RuG
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XCEPTIONS_ENABLED is set
> (see /usr/include/glibmm-2.4/glibmm/exceptionhandler.h).
>
> Sounds like libglibmm-2.4 I installed with apt-get from maemo repo
> (libglibmm-2.4-1c2a) has been built with exceptions disabled (???).
Yes, and some other options too, for reduced resources enviro
d us not being sure
which ones were actually used. We'll work it out in the next few days.
If this is my package (I can't check from here) then the problem might be
that I was unable to create a gtkmm package for i386, but I did create one
for arm.
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e all fully
> charged ;-) ).
> The screen leaves blank and it seems that nothing happens.
> But connected to the socket they somtimes switch on.
>
> Is there something known about a Hardware/ Software /manufactoring issue
> ??
This seems off topic. Surely you should just return
> "ext Murray Cumming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> What debian packages did you upload?
>
> I uploaded these binary packages
>
> libglibmm-2.4-1 2.6.1-1
> libglibmm 2.4-dev2.6.1-1
> libgtkmm-2.4-1 2.4.10-1
>
> "ext Murray Cumming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I'm trying to build gtkmm packages for the new Maemo 2.0 platform, but
>> I'm getting this error message (in the 686 target):
>
> Hi Murray,
>
> your C++ bindings are already in the &q
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
>
> Murray Cumming schrieb:
>> [snip]
>>>> I could remove the soname/suffix from the package name, which would
>>>> involve a few more changes to the debian/ stuff than I'd like to make,
>&
abi has
> changed, and thus the packages depending on that lib needs to be
> recompiled.
But there is no previous version of the package for maemo.
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ame/suffix from the package name, which would
involve a few more changes to the debian/ stuff than I'd like to make, so
I thought I'd check first.
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