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Without good format support, there's hardly any point.
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in a more mobile-friendly manner.
Having a number of useful default profiles will help here.
FBReader's greatest strength is also its greatest weakness, so having a native
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to useful for paging not to use it in portrait. Also:
less wasted screen space in portrait.
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On Mar 19, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Igor Stoppa wrote:
ext Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
Dnia czwartek, 18 marca 2010 o 19:59:25 Samir Faci (Dev) napisał(a):
Hmm.. any one know if meego will be completely open source?.
Or is it too early to know for sure at this point.
It was already said
On Mar 19, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Igor Stoppa wrote:
ext Ryan Abel wrote:
Well, except for the part where Nokia ends up marketing it as MeeGo. Oh,
and Harmattan's, apparently, MeeGo, too, and it definitely has closed stuff
at the platform level.
Yeah . . . not confusing at all
On Mar 19, 2010, at 5:50 PM, igor.sto...@nokia.com igor.sto...@nokia.com
wrote:
From: ext Ryan Abel [rabe...@gmail.com]
Sent: 19 March 2010 23:43
Will it be advertised as such? Wording I've seen so far leads me to believe
it'll be advertised as MeeGo not MeeGo-compliant. I guess we'll
On Mar 19, 2010, at 6:15 PM, igor.sto...@nokia.com wrote:
From: ext Ryan Abel [rabe...@gmail.com]
Sent: 20 March 2010 00:06
Well, in Harmattans case, because it aint MeeGo at all. For anything else,
well, I don't know. Until we know exactly how much of the platform is
actually MeeGo it's
On Feb 12, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Ajai Khattri wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Sascha Mäkelä wrote:
While writing help files for my current project, I came to a conclusion that
it would be easier to have the app simply point to a wiki page. This way a
new version of the app would not be needed for
On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Amichai Rotman wrote:
Is it possible to adapt the existing Flasher utility, used to update the
Nokia Tablets under Linux, so it can be used as a replacement for the
Windows-only NSU?
I am not a developer. I am an end user looking for a way to update my Nokia
On Jan 26, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Henrik Hedberg wrote:
Jeremiah Foster wrote:
Bug #7505 asks if mauku is open or closed. According to the bug report, it
looks pretty closed.
...
What should we do here? Move this to non-free?
I am very aware of the meaning free here. Mauku was uploaded
On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Henrik Hedberg wrote:
Ryan Abel wrote:
On Jan 26, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Henrik Hedberg wrote:
Jeremiah Foster wrote:
Bug #7505 asks if mauku is open or closed. According to the bug report, it
looks pretty closed.
...
What should we do here? Move this to non
On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Jeff Moe wrote:
I've seen frequent mentions of how distinct maemo.org is from Nokia. But the
reality seems that nothing at Maemo can really happen without Nokia's tacit
approval. Is there anyone that has server access that isn't paid (directly or
indirectly) by
On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Jeff Moe wrote:
On Wednesday 20 January 2010 19:21:18 Ryan Abel wrote:
On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Jeff Moe wrote:
I've seen frequent mentions of how distinct maemo.org is from Nokia. But
the reality seems that nothing at Maemo can really happen without
On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Aldon Hynes wrote:
Yet perhaps this is some of the problem. It seems like the community of
people working with devices running Maemo might be better served if it was
more distinct. As is noted on the maemo.org Terms of Use page, the site is
hosted as a 'public
On Jan 19, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Andre Klapper wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 19.01.2010, 17:45 + schrieb Edward Johns:
I feel a little cheeky asking this when I've only just joined the list
but I was wondering if anybody else thinks it is a good idea to have
mails to this list (and the other
On Jan 19, 2010, at 9:46 PM, Hartti Suomela wrote:
Additionally I do not buy the wasting space argument but that is very much
personal opinion based on my preference of using laptop much more than my
handheld device for reading these emails and I understand that long prefixes
could create
On Nov 12, 2009, at 3:17 AM, Dave Neary wrote:
So - how can we make giving the feedback and voting on applications
easier?
Oh, this one's easy. Get some servers so rating a package isn't either
impossible or a 20-minute endeavor. Even motivated testers like myself
don't have much
On Nov 11, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Bruce Forsberg wrote:
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Till Harbaum / Lists
li...@harbaum.org wrote:
the same happened to gpxview 0.8.13-1. I emailed Niels about
this but he did not yet reply.
The Nokia folks must be having a N900 release party and not
Any news on when tablets-dev might be updated for those of us without
access to Windows XP installs? You know, most of us with pre-release
devices. ;)
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php is 404 as of now.
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On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Graham Cobb wrote:
But the update description does not help with testing: (a) it is
user friendly text, not a developer changelog and (b) the
description is vs. the version already in Extras not vs. the last
extras-testing version.
I'd still love to see a
On Nov 3, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Till Harbaum wrote:
snip/
I'd just like to interject that any new process like this is going to
have growing pains. You have two options to deal with the kinks that
inevitably appear in an untried process, help to smooth them out (See
the QA process = bug
On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Qole wrote:
Your reply continues to sound like the middle class moms who argue
for private schools. How will our children ever get ahead if they go
to that school down the street? It is full of common children who
will only slow our gifted children down.
On Oct 29, 2009, at 5:45 PM, David Greaves wrote:
So you're thinking that a git sha1 is 'suboptimal' ?
I thought Shopper v.fc42f5c26bbc257cf782679f7b40075e05322647
Don't make me hit you!
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On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Valerio Valerio wrote:
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org wrote:
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 14:03, Carsten Valdemar Munk c...@cs.au.dk
wrote:
Starting from today, I will be officially starting my work as
maemo.org distmaster. Nokia
One thing I think it might be worth working on is the user-
friendliness of the version strings of packages in Extras. We want the
Application manager to be as friendly and approachable for the average
user as possible and long incomprehensible lines of alphanumerics are
a surefire way to
On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:03 PM, Valerio Valerio wrote:
If you’re a developer, make sure your applications are in good shape
before the testing marathon.
Any developers who would like Bugzilla products before the marathon
starts, please email me the information listed on this page[1]:
On Oct 20, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Dave Neary wrote:
Ryan Abel wrote:
On Oct 19, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
Thomas Waelti wrote:
(PS: There is also
http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Generalantilles/Sandbox/
Wiki_Action_Group
which comes up earlier in searches...)
Deleted.
Just
Banging my head into the wall on this over the past few days. Seems
like it's a newfangled HAL issue, but I haven't been able to divine
anything about how I should go about making this thing cooperate.
Can somebody who has a clue about this stuff please just throw me a
bone here?
On Oct 15, 2009, at 7:23 AM, Joaquim Rocha wrote:
Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Roald de Vries wrote:
This is not exact. It might work in a terminal emulator, but it is
not a
universal thing. Tab and Esc are useful in a lot of programs (such as
Esc for stop current page
On Oct 14, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Ville M. Vainio wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Ryan Abel rabe...@gmail.com wrote:
So qwerty12 compiled a patched xev, I grabbed keycodes and I spent a
couple hours trying to convince the device that it'd be a really
great
idea for shift-fn-b to send
On Oct 14, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Ville M. Vainio wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Ryan Abel rabe...@gmail.com wrote:
So qwerty12 compiled a patched xev, I grabbed keycodes and I spent a
couple hours trying to convince the device that it'd be a really
great
idea for shift-fn-b to send
On Oct 14, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Joaquim Rocha wrote:
What hardware keyboard layout are you using at the moment? You can
check
this by going to the Settings-Text Input.
English, Nederlands (bizarre). Editing the basic en_US character maps
in the symbols file had no effect.
Could this end
On Oct 14, 2009, at 5:45 PM, Roald de Vries wrote:
My own picks for remaps (tab I can handle in X Terminal, although
the shortcut bar no longer editable = more sacrifice for the sake
of simplicity) would be and .
And how can you do (bash) command line editing and use vim without
the
Anybody managed to dig up the hands startup animation? I'd like to
start trying to update my boot screen packages for Fremantle.
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On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:20 PM, gary liquid wrote:
because extras-testing is available on device isnt it ?
does a user have to enter details for extras-testing and also extras-
devel?
i was under the impression -testing was included, but disabled by
default?
Only Extras should be included
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Graham Cobbg+...@cobb.uk.net wrote:
I presume a garage tracker is an acceptable URL. If Ed ever gets the chance
to do his autobuild from garage proposal he could default this to the
associated tracker!
Acceptable, but probably not preferable. I'd like to see
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Graham Cobbg+...@cobb.uk.net wrote:
On Saturday 29 August 2009 16:23:43 Ryan Abel wrote:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Graham Cobbg+...@cobb.uk.net wrote:
I presume a garage tracker is an acceptable URL. If Ed ever gets the
chance to do his autobuild
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:43 AM, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote:
One step forward and two steps back.
Happy to see that you considered this Beta release to be at least one step
forward (before ending up being one step backward :)
It's hardly every anything else with Nokia. :(
No PPC binary,
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Kees
Jongenburgerkees.jongenbur...@gmail.com wrote:
There's absolutely no reason why not. Really, though, why don't we just open
source it so we don't have to deal with ANY of this insanity?
There are other project the 0x flasher out there and not enough
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:41 AM, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote:
The Maemo Eclipse Integration 2nd Edition project has released installation
packages for Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Linuxes, Mac OS X and Windows.
Maemo Flasher-3.5 tool supports flashing of N8x0 Diablo devices and coming
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Thiago Bolaum bol...@gmail.com wrote:
Telepathy:
Barring extreme circumstances, always go with what's bundled on the
platform. Especially with resource-limited mobile devices.
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On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Marius Vollmer marius.voll...@nokia.com wrote:
I think it's time to define the Application manager categories for
Fremantle. This has been done for Diablo here:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Package_categories
and we should update that page to talk about
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Joseph Charpak
jchar...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
On a related note, packagers are doing a good job of not putting
libraries in user/whatever (so they do not appear in blue pill mode),
but we still do have some libwhatever packages in the list. It would be
good to
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On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Jeremiah Foster
jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com wrote:
On May 12, 2009, at 14:39, Quim Gil wrote:
I think we could have a better prioritization of the tasks of the
debmaster, if not for this sprint at least for the next(s).
It would be really great if this type
the
package by
reducing its severity.
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away with no sign of
what
went wrong.
/etc/init.d/tablet-browser-daemon restart
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raising the limits. We can always beg hardware from Tero
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don't), but /home will be
mounted on the internal card in Fremantle. So, presumably, /home/user/
MyDocs/.sounds would be one logical choice.
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On Apr 15, 2009, at 3:03 AM, Quim Gil wrote:
ext Ryan Abel wrote:
I'd like to propose that we start actively transitioning to the new
categories in the beginning of May
Note that first we should get a one and only list of categories. Now
we
seem to have 3 (Community proposal, Maemo
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On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Murray Cumming wrote:
On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 07:14 -0500, Ryan Abel wrote:
[1]http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2009-February/003336.html
I did (and I joined that mailing list after finding it via google),
but
I didn't see a clear conclusion
On Mar 5, 2009, at 4:16 AM, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote:
So, no multitouch screen.. right? ;-)
No. (Something we've know for a while, actually. ;))
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/open-source/news/2008/09/nokia-unveils-maemo-roadmap-plans-for-3g-internet-tablet.ars
[3]http://maemo.org/news/announcements/07a262bcedec11ddabdc07d2d12051a151a1/
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device, and we're getting it within the next 6 months.
An awful lot of people on here seem to be entirely ignorant of these
facts, so I recommend that you do some reading up on the links that
Andrew and I have provided in this thread. . . .
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On Feb 17, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Jeremiah Foster wrote:
How does this sound?
Sounds wonderfully sensible. ;)
Quim? Soumya?
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months.
Oh, right, mad props to the first person to get a virtual lightsaber
going on the RX-51. ;)
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smoke
testing less effective.
I guess the next question, then, (which arguably belongs over on -
community) is whether it's time to add a third section to Extras.
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in the Application
Manager?
(Related, I've filled http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4081 for
ignoring specific updates)
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I don't recall if there was talk about a Nokia-provided hacker edition
of Fremantle. I suspect there won't be, as it didn't gather a lot of
community development on the 770 and with projects like Mer creating a
community-supported build already, I suspect Nokia will
[2]http://maemo.org/community/council/community_highlights_for_december_2008-part_i-january_2009-part_ii/
[3]http://maemo.org/news/announcements/07a262bcedec11ddabdc07d2d12051a151a1/
[4]http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap/Fremantle
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On Jan 23, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Marsaud wrote:
In my humble opinion, aptitude should be added to the main seed of
Maemo; why is it not already the case?
Because 95% of Maemo users would never use it and flash space isn't
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On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:04 PM, tz tho...@mich.com wrote:
This is why NOKIA has to link the tools/sdk packages instead of me
doing so in extras.
Actually, no, this is why you shouldn't put packages that don't belong
in a section with a user/ prefix in user/. . . . Application Manager
won't
- Original message -
First, I assume you mean before pushing it into the STABLE repository.
No. Extras-Devel is for betas, unstable, and things which aren't
ready for the general user to access.
If I have something there I usually if not always leave a note to TURN
THE REPOSITORY OFF
On Nov 26, 2008, at 5:00 AM, Sarah Newman wrote:
Disclaimer: I have little practice with pinning packages. If Maemo
doesn't support this feature from Debian (haven't tried it yet,) then
maybe it should.
It does, it just lacks UI support in h-a-m.
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many
significant bugs, are you sure you want to install it?), or even some
sort of apt pinning system to ignore certain updates.
What are your ideas?
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willing to provide patches to make your life even
easier. All you need to do to utilize this resource is contribute 20
or 30 minutes a week to bugs.maemo.org
Simple, isn't it? :)
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Marius Vollmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, for the new categories to be officially adopted, we need
translations to all the supported languages:
en_GB es_MX nl_NL pt_BR no_NO fi_FI it_IT fr_CA
da_DK en_US pt_PT sv_SE fr_FR es_ES ru_RU de_DE
for these
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But the current AM is a pretty unfriendly place for browsing a long list
of available applications. In the past, I kept saying that I don't want
the AM to turn into a portal for applications, that should be left to
the
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:02 PM, tz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the whole application manager apt-get dists debian system is going
to be so brittle that the only SAFE way to get an application on to
your system is with Application Manager in blue-pill mode, then there
should be a user/cli
Just a heads up. The list will be finalized tomorrow and make its way
to the packaging policy (hopefully) by the end of the week. Any
changes after tomorrow should be proposed on the wiki page.[1]
[1]https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Package_categories
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the hardware is capable of really.
Considering the hardware is already doing 720p with only NEON
optimizations, well. . . .
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(unless
you are having fun making them, of course).
I've always found visual aides more effective than just text when
describing UI ideas. Besides, it's good practice.
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On Oct 31, 2008, at 10:17 AM, tz wrote:
Nokia has already said they will never support it
out of the box, so the next best thing would be to have something
available to fully integrate it.
It's coming in Maemo 5.
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-developed UI, and the community certainly has a few ideas
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On Oct 30, 2008, at 3:41 AM, Quim Gil wrote:
ext Ryan Abel wrote:
Yes, a structured plan with enough open-endedness to keep the
creativity
flowing would be best. A Diablo-based community branch (perhaps
combined
with osv-c) might be helpful as a test-bed for some of the wilder
ideas
://wiki.maemo.org/Image:Main-view-mockup.png
[3]https://wiki.maemo.org/Image:Tag-search-mockup.png
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On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:13 PM, Glen Ditchfield wrote:
Ryan Abel wrote:
KeyEnglish i18n Examples
user/development ProgrammingPy2Deb
In the other 10 cases, the English string is the same as the tail
end of the
key. For consistency, could the English string
to the correct page for your unit?
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Thoughts?
[1]http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Package_categories
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On Oct 28, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote:
ext Andrew Flegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[forcing packages to comply with the definitive package list]
The reason I like doing this Application Manager-side
On Oct 28, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote:
ext Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So after a fair bit of discussion, we've arrive at a suitable list of
package categories:
Excellent! Just for completeness, what about also listing All and
Others? These need to be translated
in windowed mode? Or just leave
it as-is and let people switch to fullscreen if they're really
bothered by it?
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, and I hope Nokia backs up their claims of increased openness
for Fremantle RSN.
The community has plans, Nokia, but they're really hard to act on
unless we know what you're up to. Help us to help you. :)
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What about something like powerlaunch? Music playback is a pretty
common use case, and having to take the tablet out of your pocket to
change the volume or the song is a pain. Some hooks into dsme/mce so
you can issue commands with the screen turned off would be a nice
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, as in Maemo 5, applications use geoclue [1] as their main
source of location based awareness. With the push for more
standardized software, geoclue is up there as a 'must-use'.
Just, fyi, http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2037
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into Extras? He was having some trouble last time I
asked. . . .)
[1]http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/moredimmingoptions/
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than their own proprietary, accessory peddling mess.
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, and because it
seems to be generally useful to a fair number of people, you might as
well make it easier for those people to get to it by putting it in
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been a big problem, and the
Tools repo just adds to it without bringing any really useful
definition between itself and Extras.
The packages wont show up in the Application manager anyway, so there
isn't much point in keeping them segregated.
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On Oct 6, 2008, at 8:17 AM, Quim Gil wrote:
As another shot how about rewind
'Some drops are so popular that the DJ will rewind or reload
OS Reloaded ?
That sounds too much like The Matrix Reloaded, which churns my
stomach just thinking about it. . . .
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On Oct 6, 2008, at 8:19 PM, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
snip /
Um, yeah, this is basically exactly what the plan is for the community
edition. . . .
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community versions needs
cooperation
from Nokia, direct use of apt-get, or a different front end for apt-
get.
Such a front end should support Maemo-Flags (for automatic reboot, for
example).
It'll work fine with community updates, the packaging just needs to be
handled properly.
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thoughts from the Nokia guys? Any alternative suggestions?
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