Re: N800 hangs at the end of startup sequence

2007-03-05 Thread Sergey Udaltsov

Kemal,

Thanks, it really helped. And I updated to the new dropbear package immediately

Sergey

On 3/5/07, Kemal Hadimli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

Apparently there was an error in the recent dropbear update. It is
waiting for random key presses to get some entropy. Hit the keys like
crazy and it'll boot up.


On 3/5/07, Sergey Udaltsov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi people

 My N800 went nuts. When I turn it on, the blue bar at the bottom goes
 all the way from the left to the right - and nothing happens then. The
 Home screen does not appear. Is there any way I could debug this
 situation - or I just have to reflash the OS? The device was never put
 into development mode, some software from public repositories was
 installed. The battary is fully charged. I tried to add/remove SD
 cards - no visible effect.

 Any help/ideas would be appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Sergey

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Re: WLAN Power Save Mode timeout

2007-03-05 Thread Kalle Valo
Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Really? I remember that we only added it to N800. Oh well, I'm glad
 that I was wrong :)


 Just to clear possible confusion, 2007 was not a typo, I mean the
 hacker edition, not regular IT2006. So if 770 uses PSM and you would
 need just newer osso-wlan sources, this condition is probably true in
 2007 on N770.

Ok, this makes sense now. The wlan_sleep_timeout gconf key is a
feature of wlancond (from osso-wlan). Thanks for the explanation.

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Re: Nightly reboots

2007-03-05 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Kimmo Hämäläinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 My guess is the WLAN. IIRC, there was rebooting problems that were
 caused by just leaving the WLAN connection idle.

I was just about say the same. I also suspect it's the WLAN driver
crashing.

 Fortunately, the next SW release should fix those.

Yup.

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Re: Nightly reboots

2007-03-05 Thread Eero Tamminen

Hi,

ext Michael Wiktowy wrote:

On 3/2/07, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My N800 has been restarting each night sometime after 2am EST (that's
as late as I've been up).  I leave it plugged in either on my night
table or on my desk and when I go to use it in the am, it's clearly
been restarted (bluetooth off, no apps open).

Is there any way to see what's causing this to try and prevent it from
happening?


I get these occasionally and can't quite figure out what is triggering
it. I often go to sleep with the N800 plugged in and Canola playing
some music, sometimes I leave Gizmo running and I may or may not leave
the wifi connection going. Sometimes I get woken up by the boot screen
chimes :] I doesn't happen only during the night though so I don't
think that it is a time thing. I have heard it rebooting in my jacket
pocket during the day too.

I will look for a trend but I haven't noticed it happening lately. I
did capture the bootreason and various other files after it happened
one time. I can dig that up. It didn't give a specific app but it
mentioned the dsp.


The next release has also fixes to DSP reset failing (DSP reset and
related DSP client restarts are normal. However, if the reset fails and
device multimedia framework stops working, the device is rebooted).


- Eero
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Re: problem starting n800

2007-03-05 Thread Eero Tamminen

Hi,

ext Michael Thompson wrote:

When i turn on my n800 the progress bar doesn't come up and it never
starts. If i remove one of sd cards then it starts.

AFTer it booted i typed dmesg in the terminal

[  120.663482] JFFS2 warning: (1153) jffs2_sum_write_sumnode: Not
enough space for summary, padsize = -1452
[  123.296722] JFFS2 warning: (1153) jffs2_sum_write_sumnode: Not
enough space for summary, padsize = -822


These should AFAIK be harmless.



If i re-insert the card once the n800 is running the card seems fine
and has plenty of free space.

Any ideas?


What extra software you've installed to the device?

If you fsck your card, are any file system errors reported?
- If there are errors, this could be something triggered by the
  metalayer-crawler misbehaviour (which is fixed in next release)
- If no errors are reported or the issue happens also after the card
  file system is fixed, could you file a bug at maemo.org, include
  the information about your card brand and manufacturer, and mail
  the bug id to the list?


- Eero

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Re: boot problem

2007-03-05 Thread Eero Tamminen

Hi,

ext Stefan Englhardt wrote:

I've a power outage of my N800. Since that the device needs
very long to start (30min). The Nokia Screen apears, the blue bar
at the bottom goes 100% right. And then I've to wait for a very long time.


Most likely this is JFFS2 file system garbage collecting the internal
Flash.  Have you written *and* removed a lot of files from the device
(e.g. installing  uninstalling something)?  And/or is your internal
Flash *very* full (only few MBs free)?



Looking at Kernel messages it seems that jffs has a problem.

How can I repair the filesystem?? No fsck-like tool??


 5[   45.825744] JFFS2 notice: (379) read_dnode: wrong data CRC
 in data node at 0x0d6fa260: read 0x79f8297b, calculated 0xe83087b9.

This just means that device had been booted (when battery out dropped,
device HW watchdog rebooted it etc) while the internal flash was being
written and therefore the CRC sum for the (partially) written block
doesn't match what a complete block would have.  The message will go
away when JFFS2 garbage-collects that block.

Note: JFFS2 journals the file system so the file system
integrity is retained in these cases although some individual
file might be incompletely written.


- Eero
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Nokia 770 and GeekCorps

2007-03-05 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente

Nice use for a nice device:
http://lmi.geekcorps.org/
http://lmi.geekcorps.org/hardware/

It seems that the 770 is being used in many projects with different
purpouses. Nice to see that.

Best regards,

--
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http://www.jsmanrique.net
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jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: N800 refuses to boot (SOLVED)

2007-03-05 Thread Benjamí Villoslada
El Dilluns 05 Març 2007 04:46, Benjamí Villoslada va escriure:
 Have many information about this problem?

I see in other messages: dropbear.  Updated today, now works fine again :)

$ dpkg -l dropbear* | grep ^i | awk '{print $2, $3}'
dropbear-client 0.49-1mh3
dropbear-server 0.49-1mh3

-- 
Benjamí
http://blog.bitassa.cat



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Re: N800 and USB host mode

2007-03-05 Thread Jeff G

 just run flasher to see its options and your question is answered ;-)
 i think it was --enable-usb-host or something like that


Can you do that (turn on USB-Host mode) without re-flashing the device?

Thanks,

Jeff
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Re: N800 and USB host mode

2007-03-05 Thread Paul Klapperich

On 3/5/07, Jeff G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  just run flasher to see its options and your question is answered ;-)
  i think it was --enable-usb-host or something like that

Can you do that (turn on USB-Host mode) without re-flashing the device?



Yes. You use the flasher utility, but you can set flags (host mode, dev
mode, etc) without uploading a new firmware. Just don't include the switches
for the firmware upload when you use the other options.

--Paul
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Re : N800 and USB host Mode

2007-03-05 Thread bidon02

Hi David,
I would be pleased to help for beta testing GMFSK on my N800 and my 
YAESU FT-890.
Are you not planning to use the onboard sound card rather then a 
external USB sound card ?

73s

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Bluetooth mouse.

2007-03-05 Thread Francesc Roig-i-Feliu
Hi

Anybody knows if is possible that mameo recognizes a BT mouse?
Anybody has tryed it?


Francesc. 



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Re: problem starting n800

2007-03-05 Thread Michael Thompson

On 05/03/07, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

ext Michael Thompson wrote:
 When i turn on my n800 the progress bar doesn't come up and it never
 starts. If i remove one of sd cards then it starts.

 AFTer it booted i typed dmesg in the terminal

 [  120.663482] JFFS2 warning: (1153) jffs2_sum_write_sumnode: Not
 enough space for summary, padsize = -1452
 [  123.296722] JFFS2 warning: (1153) jffs2_sum_write_sumnode: Not
 enough space for summary, padsize = -822

These should AFAIK be harmless.


 If i re-insert the card once the n800 is running the card seems fine
 and has plenty of free space.

 Any ideas?

What extra software you've installed to the device?



streamer
canola
mapper
terminal
sudoku
vnc
mplayer gpe calendar
nmap
xgalaga
erminig

If you fsck your card, are any file system errors reported?

- If there are errors, this could be something triggered by the
   metalayer-crawler misbehaviour (which is fixed in next release)



fsck in linux and windows disk check bother report no errors. For the record
the output was

dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
Checking we can access the last sector of the filesystem
Boot sector contents:
System ID MSDOS5.0
Media byte 0xf8 (hard disk)
  512 bytes per logical sector
 4096 bytes per cluster
   32 reserved sectors
First FAT starts at byte 16384 (sector 32)
2 FATs, 32 bit entries
  3863552 bytes per FAT (= 7546 sectors)
Root directory start at cluster 2 (arbitrary size)
Data area starts at byte 7743488 (sector 15124)
   965788 data clusters (3955867648 bytes)
63 sectors/track, 128 heads
   12 hidden sectors
  7741428 sectors total
Checking for unused clusters.
Checking free cluster summary.
/dev/sda1: 264 files, 263612/965788 clusters


- If no errors are reported or the issue happens also after the card

   file system is fixed, could you file a bug at maemo.org, include
   the information about your card brand and manufacturer, and mail
   the bug id to the list?



Unfortunately this is a no name 4GB SD card. Is there a command I can run
on linux to get some more info on the  card?
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Re: Re : N800 and USB host Mode

2007-03-05 Thread David Hagood

bidon02 wrote:

Hi David,
I would be pleased to help for beta testing GMFSK on my N800 and my 
YAESU FT-890.
Are you not planning to use the onboard sound card rather then a 
external USB sound card ?

73s

I am planning on requiring an external USB sound device and an external
USB serial device for rig keying and control. Using the internal sound
has two problems:
1) on the 770 the only way to get sound in to the device would be to
hold it near the radio's speaker.
2) There is no good way to do keying of the radio, unless you use some
sort of sound activated keying (or your rig has VOX on SSB).

Also - don't hold your breath for me to have anything ready to test, as
I am doing this in my exceedingly sparse spare time.


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Re: N800 and USB host mode

2007-03-05 Thread Larry Battraw

On 3/5/07, Paul Klapperich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 3/5/07, Jeff G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   just run flasher to see its options and your question is answered ;-)
   i think it was --enable-usb-host or something like that

 Can you do that (turn on USB-Host mode) without re-flashing the device?

Yes. You use the flasher utility, but you can set flags (host mode, dev
mode, etc) without uploading a new firmware. Just don't include the switches
for the firmware upload when you use the other options.


 Just a reminder that as of now USB host mode is still not
functional.  From what I've heard the support is disabled in the
kernel, likely because it's not mature enough to enable.  I understand
that better support may be forthcoming, but that would be part of a
new kernel or a back-port of the fixes.

Larry
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Re: N800 and USB host mode

2007-03-05 Thread Michael Wiktowy

On 3/5/07, Larry Battraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I understand
that better support may be forthcoming, but that would be part of a
new kernel or a back-port of the fixes.


The Nokia folks seem to be strangely silent on the whole USB host
thing. Maybe they are not wanting to implicate themselves in a power
injection hack that could damage your tablet. That would explain why
they took out the vital bits from the kernel.

I didn't see USB host support on the roadmap so I don't hold out much
hope for the fixing of what I would consider a major regression of the
N800 functionality vs. the 770. Nokia has surprised us with bigger
easter eggs though.

I would appreciate some clarification from Nokia whether this
functionality will return or if it was removed intentionally.

/Mike
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Re: Re : N800 and USB host Mode

2007-03-05 Thread George Farris
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 20:10 -0600, David Hagood wrote:
 bidon02 wrote:
  Hi David,
  I would be pleased to help for beta testing GMFSK on my N800 and my 
  YAESU FT-890.
  Are you not planning to use the onboard sound card rather then a 
  external USB sound card ?
  73s
 I am planning on requiring an external USB sound device and an external
 USB serial device for rig keying and control. Using the internal sound
 has two problems:
 1) on the 770 the only way to get sound in to the device would be to
 hold it near the radio's speaker.
 2) There is no good way to do keying of the radio, unless you use some
 sort of sound activated keying (or your rig has VOX on SSB).
 
 Also - don't hold your breath for me to have anything ready to test, as
 I am doing this in my exceedingly sparse spare time.

Good stuff David.  I have an Icom IC-706MKIIG to test with whenever you
have any luck with this.

-- 
George Farris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: N800 hangs at the end of startup sequence

2007-03-05 Thread Jae Stutzman

that would have been nice to know at 1am last nite! :)
thanks for the info
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N800: Debian packages, PIM suite, WLAN chip, battery

2007-03-05 Thread Thomas Hühn
Hi

I'm currently thinking about buying a N800, after some friends won the
N770 at Gnome's GUADEC and were quite happy with it.

What I don't get so far is: Can I use normal Debian packages from
ftp.debian.org? The maemo wiki's application list looks quite empty
compared to the list for the N770, and it would sure be nice if I were
able to get any app from the vast pool that Debian supplies. Still, I
fear that's not possible?

Does the N800 come with some PIM suite (at least calendar, contacts,
appointments) preinstalled (that is, from Nokia)?

What kind of WLAN chip is used in the device?

Is the battery pack one that is used with other Nokia devices
(especially mobile phones), too? Would be nice, since those are usually
cheap to get.

Thank you
Thomas

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Re: problem starting n800

2007-03-05 Thread Eero Tamminen

Hi,

ext Michael Thompson wrote:

  When i turn on my n800 the progress bar doesn't come up and it never
  starts. If i remove one of sd cards then it starts.
 
  AFTer it booted i typed dmesg in the terminal
 
  [  120.663482] JFFS2 warning: (1153) jffs2_sum_write_sumnode: Not
  enough space for summary, padsize = -1452
  [  123.296722] JFFS2 warning: (1153) jffs2_sum_write_sumnode: Not
  enough space for summary, padsize = -822

These should AFAIK be harmless.

  If i re-insert the card once the n800 is running the card seems fine
  and has plenty of free space.
 
  Any ideas?

What extra software you've installed to the device? 


streamer
canola
mapper
terminal
sudoku
vnc
mplayer gpe calendar
nmap
xgalaga
erminig


AFAIK similarly to the builtin crawler, Canola is also using inotify on
the memory cards, so that could be triggering the bug on startup too
(by starting to go through the card contents when the bootup process
mounts it).

When the next release comes out (with crawler version which handles
memory card related errors better), you could check whether things
work better (at least when Canola is not installed).



If you fsck your card, are any file system errors reported?
- If there are errors, this could be something triggered by the
   metalayer-crawler misbehaviour (which is fixed in next release)

fsck in linux and windows disk check bother report no errors. For the 
record the output was


dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
Checking we can access the last sector of the filesystem
Boot sector contents:
System ID MSDOS5.0
Media byte 0xf8 (hard disk)
   512 bytes per logical sector
  4096 bytes per cluster
32 reserved sectors
First FAT starts at byte 16384 (sector 32)
 2 FATs, 32 bit entries
   3863552 bytes per FAT (= 7546 sectors)
Root directory start at cluster 2 (arbitrary size)
Data area starts at byte 7743488 (sector 15124)
965788 data clusters (3955867648 bytes)
63 sectors/track, 128 heads
12 hidden sectors
   7741428 sectors total
Checking for unused clusters.
Checking free cluster summary.
/dev/sda1: 264 files, 263612/965788 clusters

- If no errors are reported or the issue happens also after the card
   file system is fixed, could you file a bug at maemo.org
http://maemo.org, include
   the information about your card brand and manufacturer, and mail
   the bug id to the list?

Unfortunately this is a no name 4GB SD card.


I.e. unsupported by current releases, only cards upto 2GB
are supported... Larger ones working is just luck.



Is there a command I can run on linux to get some more info on the  card?


I think on the device the information would be here:
/sys/devices/platform/mmci-omap.1/mmc1:0001/
But it seems to be in numeric format. :-/


- Eero
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