Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing

2011-10-31 Thread David W. Hodgins
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:17:15 -0400, Michael Scherer wrote: What is the usable feature ? To be able to put some kind of quota on /usr ? To be able to use a different fs for / and /usr ? I once ran into the situation where installing a package succeeded, but caused the / filesystem usage to hit

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review Of Bugs

2011-10-31 Thread nicolas vigier
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011, Colin Guthrie wrote: > I certainly don't expect a package maintained by a team to be marked as > nobody (well, certainly not longer term). But again, I think even > allocating a gatekeeper or a team leader puts too many social pressures > on that person, and imposes something

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review Of Bugs

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 22:16 +, Colin Guthrie a écrit : > 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 31/10/11 21:44 did gyre and gimble: > > Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 21:06 +, Colin Guthrie a écrit : > >> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 31/10/11 20:55 did gyre and gimble: > >>> Op maa

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review Of Bugs

2011-10-31 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 31/10/11 21:44 did gyre and gimble: > Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 21:06 +, Colin Guthrie a écrit : >> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 31/10/11 20:55 did gyre and gimble: >>> Op maandag 31 oktober 2011 21:34:04 schreef D.Morgan: >>> [...] > But seri

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review Of Bugs

2011-10-31 Thread Manuel Hiebel
Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 21:06 +, Colin Guthrie a écrit : > I think the attempts to get more official partnerships by Samuel and > yourself are very valuable, but by the same token, I think we need to > accept that having a single maintainer for some packages just doens't > make sense. > > F

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review Of Bugs

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 21:06 +, Colin Guthrie a écrit : > 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 31/10/11 20:55 did gyre and gimble: > > Op maandag 31 oktober 2011 21:34:04 schreef D.Morgan: > > [...] > >>> But seriously, if we can't maintain/fix something like chromium-browser, > >>> we sho

Re: [Mageia-dev] Re : Re : Re : E17 packaging

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 16:56 +, Philippe Reynes a écrit : > > So, yes, there isn't any way to manage bug/security issue in a very > easy way when upstream team don't provide stable tarball. So, what is > the mageia policy in this case ? no packaging at all ? "private" > packaging ? So far

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review Of Bugs

2011-10-31 Thread Claire Robinson
On 31/10/11 21:12, Maarten Vanraes wrote: Op maandag 31 oktober 2011 22:06:25 schreef Colin Guthrie: [...] For example things like initscripts, udev, systemd etc. should be maintained by a "core" team, and IMO, not a single person (tho' if someone steps up and is proven to be reliable then this

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review Of Bugs

2011-10-31 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 31 oktober 2011 22:06:25 schreef Colin Guthrie: [...] > For example things like initscripts, udev, systemd etc. should be > maintained by a "core" team, and IMO, not a single person (tho' if > someone steps up and is proven to be reliable then this is obviously not > a bad thing per-se!)

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review Of Bugs

2011-10-31 Thread D.Morgan
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Colin Guthrie wrote: > 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 31/10/11 20:55 did gyre and gimble: >> Op maandag 31 oktober 2011 21:34:04 schreef D.Morgan: >> [...] But seriously, if we can't maintain/fix something like chromium-browser, we should just dro

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review Of Bugs

2011-10-31 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 31/10/11 20:55 did gyre and gimble: > Op maandag 31 oktober 2011 21:34:04 schreef D.Morgan: > [...] >>> But seriously, if we can't maintain/fix something like chromium-browser, >>> we should just drop it completely, maybe have a get-chromium package >>> instead

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review Of Bugs

2011-10-31 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 31 oktober 2011 21:34:04 schreef D.Morgan: [...] > > But seriously, if we can't maintain/fix something like chromium-browser, > > we should just drop it completely, maybe have a get-chromium package > > instead > > why ? i package it regularly and tvignaud too. > what about dropping all

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review Of Bugs

2011-10-31 Thread D.Morgan
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Maarten Vanraes wrote: > Op maandag 31 oktober 2011 21:19:13 schreef Samuel Verschelde: >> Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 20:37:14, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : >> > Op maandag 31 oktober 2011 13:16:55 schreef Manuel Hiebel: >> > [...] >> > >> > > ##Package with more than 3

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review Of Bugs

2011-10-31 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 31 oktober 2011 21:19:13 schreef Samuel Verschelde: > Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 20:37:14, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : > > Op maandag 31 oktober 2011 13:16:55 schreef Manuel Hiebel: > > [...] > > > > > ##Package with more than 3 bugs: > > > 2392, 3200, 3198;"chromium-browser" > > > 2249, 27

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review Of Bugs

2011-10-31 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 20:37:14, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : > Op maandag 31 oktober 2011 13:16:55 schreef Manuel Hiebel: > [...] > > > ##Package with more than 3 bugs: > > 2392, 3200, 3198;"chromium-browser" > > 2249, 2740, 3199, 2449, 1633;"desktop-common-data" > > 1867, 2650, 2644, 2653, 2627;"

Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing

2011-10-31 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 31/10/11 19:01 did gyre and gimble: > Colin Guthrie skrev 31.10.2011 19:47: >>> Just have initramfs mount / and /usr, no need to merge. >> >> Yes, this is exactly what is intended, but it depends on the use case: >> > > Then I have misread something somewhere

Re: [Mageia-dev] Review Of Bugs

2011-10-31 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 31 oktober 2011 13:16:55 schreef Manuel Hiebel: [...] > ##Package with more than 3 bugs: > 2392, 3200, 3198;"chromium-browser" > 2249, 2740, 3199, 2449, 1633;"desktop-common-data" > 1867, 2650, 2644, 2653, 2627;"evolution" > 1857, 1721, 2937;"f-spot" > 942, 1483, 2628;"gdm" > 416, 2888,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing

2011-10-31 Thread Thomas Backlund
Colin Guthrie skrev 31.10.2011 19:54: [Sorry for multiple replies, missed this bit in the last one :s] 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 31/10/11 17:06 did gyre and gimble: But I guess that's the development trend nowdays: "I cant be bothered to fix things properly so I just call it "deprec

Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing

2011-10-31 Thread Thomas Backlund
Colin Guthrie skrev 31.10.2011 19:47: 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 31/10/11 17:06 did gyre and gimble: Michael Scherer skrev 31.10.2011 18:07: Le dimanche 30 octobre 2011 à 14:19 +0200, Thomas Backlund a écrit : I'm saying moving the stuff that is _really_ needed, not based on "udev

Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing

2011-10-31 Thread Colin Guthrie
[Sorry for multiple replies, missed this bit in the last one :s] 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 31/10/11 17:06 did gyre and gimble: > But I guess that's the development trend nowdays: "I cant be bothered to > fix things properly so I just call it "depreceated"... and go ahead > and break th

Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing

2011-10-31 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 31/10/11 17:06 did gyre and gimble: > Michael Scherer skrev 31.10.2011 18:07: >> Le dimanche 30 octobre 2011 à 14:19 +0200, Thomas Backlund a écrit : >>> >>> I'm saying moving the stuff that is _really_ needed, not based on "udev >>> might run"... >>> >>> well,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 19:06 +0200, Thomas Backlund a écrit : > Michael Scherer skrev 31.10.2011 18:07: > > Le dimanche 30 octobre 2011 à 14:19 +0200, Thomas Backlund a écrit : > >> > >> I'm saying moving the stuff that is _really_ needed, not based on "udev > >> might run"... > >> > >> well, t

Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing

2011-10-31 Thread Thomas Backlund
Michael Scherer skrev 31.10.2011 18:07: Le dimanche 30 octobre 2011 à 14:19 +0200, Thomas Backlund a écrit : I'm saying moving the stuff that is _really_ needed, not based on "udev might run"... well, thinking some more on it I guess the real design flaw (not systemd specific) is using all of

[Mageia-dev] Re : Re : Re : E17 packaging

2011-10-31 Thread Philippe Reynes
> Ok so there is a bug to fix in e17, what do you do ? I report it to upstream team (on irc or on the ML) > Or a security issue like the one I found ( and that should be fixed I > hope soon, after reporting it 3 times upstream ). Same way, report it upstream. If upstream don't fix a bug (or secu

Re: [Mageia-dev] Re : Re : E17 packaging

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 12:40 +, Philippe Reynes a écrit : > Hi all, > > > If you talk about this page : > http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=updates_policy&s[]=update&s[]=policy > > I think that I'm the stupid guy. I don't really understand where is > the issue with > this page and

Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Scherer
Le dimanche 30 octobre 2011 à 14:19 +0200, Thomas Backlund a écrit : > Colin Guthrie skrev 30.10.2011 13:26: > > 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 29/10/11 21:13 did gyre and gimble: > > >> So? > >> it's less impact on / than stuffing all of /usr on / > > > > I don't understand what point you'

Re: [Mageia-dev] Re : Re : E17 packaging

2011-10-31 Thread Florian Hubold
Am 31.10.2011 13:40, schrieb Philippe Reynes: Hi all, If you talk about this page : http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=updates_policy&s[]=update&s[]=policy I think that I'm the stupid guy. I don't really underst

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updating ruby to 1.9.3?

2011-10-31 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 06:12, Funda Wang wrote: > Hello, > > After reading this: > http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2011/10/06/plans-for-1-8-7 > > We will support mageia 2 for 18 months (May 2012 to Nov 2013). But > upstream will end ruby 1.8.7 at the time of June 2013. That means, we > won't hav

[Mageia-dev] Re : Re : E17 packaging

2011-10-31 Thread Philippe Reynes
Hi all, If you talk about this page :  http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=updates_policy&s[]=update&s[]=policy I think that I'm the stupid guy. I don't really understand where is the issue with  this page and e17.  I understand that e17 don't provide "stable" release with tarball. But I ne

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updating ruby to 1.9.3?

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 31 octobre 2011 à 14:12 +0800, Funda Wang a écrit : > Hello, > > After reading this: > http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2011/10/06/plans-for-1-8-7 > > We will support mageia 2 for 18 months (May 2012 to Nov 2013). But > upstream will end ruby 1.8.7 at the time of June 2013. That means, w

Re: [Mageia-dev] Re : E17 packaging

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 29 octobre 2011 à 18:38 +0100, Philippe Reynes a écrit : > Hi all, > > > Another solution is to package e17 twice (like chromium): > - an E17 -stable based stable tarball, as it was almost/already done > - an E17-unstable based on svn, as it's done now I am a little bit stupid, but can

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updating ruby to 1.9.3?

2011-10-31 Thread Anne Nicolas
Le 31/10/2011 07:12, Funda Wang a écrit : > Hello, > > After reading this: > http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2011/10/06/plans-for-1-8-7 > > We will support mageia 2 for 18 months (May 2012 to Nov 2013). But > upstream will end ruby 1.8.7 at the time of June 2013. That means, we > won't have any