Re: [Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership

2012-03-30 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 30 maart 2012 04:13:50 schreef Remco Rijnders: [...] fetchmail eandry [...] Feel free to pick any that have your fancy. I imagine that we'll want to set to 'nobody' any packages that have not been adopted in say a week or two from now? actually, i cannot grab one because they are

Re: [Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (rc)

2012-03-30 Thread Anne Nicolas
Le 30/03/2012 00:45, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : Please push mariadb: mariadb (and mysql) seem to have an odd method of increasing version number for each of there alpha/beta/rc/final versions. This updates to the 5.5 RC release (it's not announced yet, but they are waiting for it to hit

Re: [Mageia-dev] mga1 rebuild

2012-03-30 Thread D.Morgan
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Thomas Spuhler tho...@btspuhler.com wrote: I just installed inkscape and it pulled the following mga1 packages  perl-Math-Calc-Units           1.70.0       1.mga1        noarch  perl-SVG                       2.500.0      1.mga1        noarch  perl-SVG-Parser  

Re: [Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench

2012-03-30 Thread Andres Kaaber
2012/3/30 Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be: Op donderdag 29 maart 2012 23:03:46 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be wrote: someone asked me to see about https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5146 it looks like it needed a rebuild,

Re: [Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench

2012-03-30 Thread Remco Rijnders
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:57:06PM +0200, Maarten wrote in 201203292257.06302.al...@rmail.be: someone asked me to see about https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5146 it looks like it needed a rebuild, but the rebuild failed with automake errors of some kind... And it is worse... as we also

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 29 March 2012 22:59, Pascal Terjan pter...@gmail.com wrote: perhaps we can obsolete it with one of those nonfree getters? (if security bug) or, maybe a package that gives an README.urpmi ... IMHO: i think obsoleting it is fine, but with a README.urpmi that says notifies that it's been

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 30/03/2012 09:58, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : On 29 March 2012 22:59, Pascal Terjanpter...@gmail.com wrote: perhaps we can obsolete it with one of those nonfree getters? (if security bug) or, maybe a package that gives an README.urpmi ... IMHO: i think obsoleting it is fine, but with a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread nicolas vigier
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Thierry Vignaud wrote: On 30 March 2012 10:06, Guillaume Rousse guillomovi...@gmail.com wrote: We can do like RH  Ubuntu, provides an empty package that explain sun doesn't enable us anymore to distribute it and that they've to install (   update) it manually from

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/30 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 29 March 2012 22:59, Pascal Terjan pter...@gmail.com wrote: perhaps we can obsolete it with one of those nonfree getters? (if security bug) or, maybe a package that gives an README.urpmi ... IMHO: i think obsoleting it is fine, but

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/30 nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Thierry Vignaud wrote: On 30 March 2012 10:06, Guillaume Rousse guillomovi...@gmail.com wrote: We can do like RH  Ubuntu, provides an empty package that explain sun doesn't enable us anymore to distribute it and that

Re: [Mageia-dev] php pear mga2 upgrade issues (file conflicts)

2012-03-30 Thread Anne nicolas
2012/3/16 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 16 March 2012 03:36, Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org wrote: I've seen some mga1-mga2 upgrade issues with php-pear packages: file /usr/share/pear/PHPUnit/Extensions/Database/Operation/Exception.php from install of

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 March 2012 10:40, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: Actually, _YOU_ want us to manage this case differently from other similar situations. In case you didn't see, other packages are obsoleted by task-obsolete (if no better package) So I think we should obsolete sun-java in

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Anne nicolas
2012/3/30 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 30 March 2012 10:40, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: Actually, _YOU_ want us to manage this case differently from other similar situations. In case you didn't see, other packages are obsoleted by task-obsolete (if no

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 March 2012 10:52, Anne nicolas enn...@mageia.org wrote: Actually, _YOU_ want us to manage this case differently from other similar situations. In case you didn't see, other packages are obsoleted by task-obsolete (if no better package) So I think we should obsolete sun-java in

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 30/03/2012 10:10, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : On 30 March 2012 10:06, Guillaume Rousseguillomovi...@gmail.com wrote: We can do like RHUbuntu, provides an empty package that explain sun doesn't enable us anymore to distribute it and that they've to install ( update) it manually from

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push

2012-03-30 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le mardi 27 mars 2012 21:10:04, Florian Hubold a écrit : So if noone volunteers and ensures to keep it updated for stable distros, i'm gonna drop it from cauldron next week, before it's too late. What about adding it to task-obsolete and then if no maintainer is found for Mageia 3 drop it

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Guillaume Rousse at 30/03/12 10:17 did gyre and gimble: Using task-obsolete is fine: - its purpose is crystal-clear - if I don't want it, I don't install it Adding an obsolete tag in openjdk to remove sun jdk now, for security concernes, whereas we had suffered a useless

Re: [Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership

2012-03-30 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Remco Rijnders at 30/03/12 03:13 did gyre and gimble: libcanberra eandry When it's released, I'll take this one (thought it was mine already TBH :D) obexd eandry I'll take this one too. Maybe some others but these ones for sure. Col -- Colin Guthrie

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Jerome Quelin
On 12/03/30 08:29 +0200, D.Morgan wrote: Can't it be put into the tainted/PLF sort of repository? tainted is not for nonfree packages and sun doesn't allow to redistribute it anymore can a get-sunjdk package be created that actually downloads it, same as what is done for get-skype? jérôme

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Jerome Quelin
On 12/03/30 13:19 +0200, D.Morgan wrote: is sun java of any use ? in france, to declare our salaries before taxes are applied, the web app used to require a trusted version of java - that is, sun jdk. i don't know if openjdk works nowadays. btw sun java is provided upstream as a rpm that need

Re: [Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl

2012-03-30 Thread David Walser
Thomas Spuhler wrote: David, can you please look at this again, it will not upgrade the way it is (downgrade) Thomas, it is my understanding that this is how it should work? That is, downgrades should not be handled automatically in Cauldron. In the stable release, you'd increase the epoch.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Dimitrios Glentadakis
Στις 30/03/2012 13:34:23 Christian Lohmaier γράψατε: But don't argue that the rest of the userbase should continue running a flawed version just because you have a special need. Users have a choice to unselect updates. If they don't read the update's description, it is their fault, not

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Dimitrios, *, On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakis dgl...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I interpreted Guillaume's approach as about the impact that can have Mageia's decisions in a system and the respect of the user and his system as a priority, but it was finally interpreted

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 30/03/2012 15:04, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi Dimitrios, *, On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakisdgl...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I interpreted Guillaume's approach as about the impact that can have Mageia's decisions in a system and the respect of the user and his

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Guillaume, On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Guillaume Rousse guillomovi...@gmail.com wrote: Le 30/03/2012 15:04, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakisdgl...@gmail.com  wrote: Well - that is what he said: Don't push security updates to users

Re: [Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl

2012-03-30 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 30/03/12 04:35 did gyre and gimble: On Thursday, March 29, 2012 08:05:00 PM Remco Rijnders wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 07:50:10PM -0700, Thomas wrote in 201203291950.10882.tho...@btspuhler.com: On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 04:28:42 PM David Walser

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread nicolas vigier
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Guillaume Rousse at 30/03/12 10:17 did gyre and gimble: Using task-obsolete is fine: - its purpose is crystal-clear - if I don't want it, I don't install it Adding an obsolete tag in openjdk to remove sun jdk now, for

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 30/03/2012 15:25, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : If that is not reading: Don't push the security updates to the users, let the user take care of that manually, then what else? That just means 'give the end user everything he needs to take a decision (advice, notification, packages, popup,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 March 2012 16:00, nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org wrote: Assuming we do not want to abandon them, what do we do? I'd suggest shipping a new empty package that replaces it with a README.urpmi telling them to go to Sun directly is the most responsible thing for us to do. If they do

Re: [Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl

2012-03-30 Thread Thomas Spuhler
On Friday, March 30, 2012 06:37:09 AM Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 30/03/12 04:35 did gyre and gimble: On Thursday, March 29, 2012 08:05:00 PM Remco Rijnders wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 07:50:10PM -0700, Thomas wrote in

[Mageia-dev] texlive need mf2pt1

2012-03-30 Thread Thomas Spuhler
I need to run, but want to get this up for discussion at one time mf2pt1 was removed from texlive, It was there somewhere in mga1 As a result, mscore does not build anymore adding the basic package texlive-mf2pts fixes it. I have it ready What I think would be preferable is to add it to texlive

Re: [Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership

2012-03-30 Thread philippe makowski
2012/3/30 Remco Rijnders re...@webconquest.com: python-yaml eandry I'll take this one

Re: [Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership

2012-03-30 Thread nicolas vigier
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Remco Rijnders wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 09:52:04PM +0200, Emmanuel wrote in 1333050724.11900.5.camel@manux-home: Hi everyone, I hoped having time to work on my packages on mageia, but because of my spare time going shorter, I can't. Please feel free to maintain

Re: [Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl

2012-03-30 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 30/03/12 15:04 did gyre and gimble: On Friday, March 30, 2012 06:37:09 AM Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 30/03/12 04:35 did gyre and gimble: # pear list-upgrades PHP Warning: can't find symbol in Unknown on line 0 I can't

Re: [Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench

2012-03-30 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 30 maart 2012 10:11:34 schreef nicolas vigier: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Maarten Vanraes wrote: unfortunately, atm it doesn't work, so it needs to be rebuilt, but it doesn't rebuild at all... and since we're in version freeze, you can't just update to a new version. even more is that

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 30 maart 2012 16:00:22 schreef nicolas vigier: [...] I think an empty package is not a good idea, it would be better to obsolete it in task-obsolete : - it's more clear that the package is obsoleted and is not a regular update. Users installing an empty package as update would

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 30 maart 2012 16:03:14 schreef Guillaume Rousse: [...] Issuing a specific sun jdk security update package, containing only a README.urpmi file and a shell script inciting the user to read this file eventually, would be a fair compromise for me. And can be considered as a standard

Re: [Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench

2012-03-30 Thread Remco Rijnders
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:33:31PM +0200, Maarten wrote in 201203301733.31821.al...@rmail.be: Op vrijdag 30 maart 2012 10:11:34 schreef nicolas vigier: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Maarten Vanraes wrote: unfortunately, atm it doesn't work, so it needs to be rebuilt, but it doesn't rebuild at all...

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Oliver Burger
Am 30.03.2012 17:39, schrieb Maarten Vanraes: Op vrijdag 30 maart 2012 16:00:22 schreef nicolas vigier: [...] I think an empty package is not a good idea, it would be better to obsolete it in task-obsolete : - it's more clear that the package is obsoleted and is not a regular update.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread Sander Lepik
30.03.2012 17:04, Thierry Vignaud kirjutas: On 30 March 2012 16:00, nicolas vigierbo...@mars-attacks.org wrote: Assuming we do not want to abandon them, what do we do? I'd suggest shipping a new empty package that replaces it with a README.urpmi telling them to go to Sun directly is the most

Re: [Mageia-dev] Freeze Push, liferea 1.8.4

2012-03-30 Thread Julien
Le Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:31:12 +0200, Julien julien.mora...@laposte.net a écrit : Le Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:38:46 +0200, Julien julien.mora...@laposte.net a écrit : Hello, please push liferea 1.8.4 which fix a crash and some bugs related to performance and usability. thanks regards

Re: [Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java

2012-03-30 Thread zezinho
Em 30-03-2012 13:50, Jerome Quelin escreveu: On 12/03/30 13:19 +0200, D.Morgan wrote: is sun java of any use ? in france, to declare our salaries before taxes are applied, the web app used to require a trusted version of java - that is, sun jdk. i don't know if openjdk works nowadays. This

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push

2012-03-30 Thread Dan Fandrich
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:13:02PM +0200, nicolas vigier wrote: It seems that if we don't have major changes, there should be no problem to have permission. So I think someone should ask for permission for firefox and thunderbird. Does anyone know where it should be asked ? The page at

[Mageia-dev] Servers downtime

2012-03-30 Thread nicolas vigier
Hello, We have a temporary problem with the servers that are hosted in Marseille. The switch on which our servers are connected is having some problem, so the servers are unavailable. We will maybe need to replace the switch with a new one. Main afected services are : - build system - sympa

[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2

2012-03-30 Thread JA Magallón
Hi... Is anybody else seeing strange things with flash 11.2 ? In my nvidia boxes it looks like I'm always seeing avatars in pandora... Looks like red and blue channels are switched. Try this: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ntsc+color+bars look at the thumbnail, and then to the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2

2012-03-30 Thread JA Magallón
On 03/31/2012 02:12 AM, JA Magallón wrote: Hi... Is anybody else seeing strange things with flash 11.2 ? In my nvidia boxes it looks like I'm always seeing avatars in pandora... Looks like red and blue channels are switched. Try this:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl

2012-03-30 Thread Thomas Spuhler
On Friday, March 30, 2012 07:59:17 AM Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 30/03/12 15:04 did gyre and gimble: On Friday, March 30, 2012 06:37:09 AM Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 30/03/12 04:35 did gyre and gimble: # pear list-upgrades PHP