Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-10 Thread Remco Rijnders
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 05:40:31PM +0100, Michael Scherer wrote: 2) @mageia.org lessens the personal spam problem, and looks more official as well. It doesn't lessen the problem, it move it to someone else ( ie, sysadmin team ). But the sysadmin team will have to do this task already anyways

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-07 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 5 March 2011 10:41, Buchan Milne bgmi...@staff.telkomsa.net wrote: 1)What to use in the From tag in the mail to the changelog list. Mandriva: From: Full Name devel@mandriva... Mageia:   From: Mageia Team buildsystem-daemon@mageia IMHO, it is beneficial to have the name of the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-07 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 07/03/11 12:53 did gyre and gimble: On 5 March 2011 10:41, Buchan Milne bgmi...@staff.telkomsa.net wrote: 1)What to use in the From tag in the mail to the changelog list. Mandriva: From: Full Name devel@mandriva... Mageia: From: Mageia Team

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-06 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 09:05:02 schreef Buchan Milne: On Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:43:25 Maarten Vanraes wrote: I think we need to have a name and email address. however, some options: A. possibly cn could be editable in identity Please stop referring to possibilities that exist as

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-06 Thread nicolas vigier
On Sat, 05 Mar 2011, Thomas Spuhler wrote: I changed my mind. mageiaMaintainer: f...@mageia.org should be mageiaMaintainer: foo at mageia.org The reason is spammers now use the f...@mageia.org account. I got a spam essage I'm not sure it will stop spam. I think most spammers know how

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-05 Thread Remy CLOUARD
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 07:20:16PM +0100, Tux99 wrote: Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 15:49 Our mailserver (catering to @mandrivauser.de) does not show such figures. The percentage of our mailserver shows 56.16% accepted, 43.84 rejected. Of these accepted mails

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-05 Thread Remy CLOUARD
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 10:05:02AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: On Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:43:25 Maarten Vanraes wrote: I think we need to have a name and email address. however, some options: A. possibly cn could be editable in identity Please stop referring to possibilities

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-05 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zaterdag 05 maart 2011 10:41:24 schreef Buchan Milne: [...] So, the issues are: 1)What to use in the From tag in the mail to the changelog list. Mandriva: From: Full Name devel@mandriva... Mageia: From: Mageia Team buildsystem-daemon@mageia IMHO, it is beneficial to have the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread Oliver Burger
Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org schrieb am 2011-03-04 Forgot to add: the primary email address in the mageia-identity db should only be used for communication between mageia systems and the user, like bugtrack notifications, forum notifications, etc. It should not be displayed or made available

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread Tux99
Quote: Oliver Burger wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 12:30 Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org schrieb am 2011-03-04 Forgot to add: the primary email address in the mageia-identity db should only be used for communication between mageia systems and

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/3/4 Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org: Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:13 Subscribing to lists hosted on Mageia is done with the mail address given in identity.mageia.org. Ok I see, I haven't subscribed to any of those yet so I didn't know that. But that's again IMHO

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/3/4 Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org: Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:36 Why? Don't you know how to use filters in your mail client? I guess you do know. I have an inbox for each mailing list, my mail client (actually google mail) stores each mail from all those lists

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread Tux99
Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:57 My experience of the last 3 years shows that the spam I get is very low. Spam escaping Google's spam filter is around 3-4 per week. Spam in Google's spam folder is between 15-25 per day, but that does not bother me anyway. Well if

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/3/4 Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org: Well if you are happy with that then that's great for you. Here are the stats of my mail server for a single week:    122   received    126   delivered      0   forwarded      4   deferred  (7  deferrals)      0   bounced  51124   rejected (99%)

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread nicolas vigier
On Fri, 04 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote: Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 05:50:23 schreef Anssi Hannula: On 04.03.2011 00:51, Maarten Vanraes wrote: Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier: On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote: Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread nicolas vigier
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, andre999 wrote: Frank Griffin a écrit : Romain d'Alverny wrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffinf...@roadrunner.com wrote: Maarten Vanraes wrote: C. how about we makepackagename@packages.mageia.org, which could use the maintainers database to forward the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:01:09 schreef nicolas vigier: On Fri, 04 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote: Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 05:50:23 schreef Anssi Hannula: On 04.03.2011 00:51, Maarten Vanraes wrote: Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier: On Thu, 03 Mar 2011,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread Tux99
Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 15:49 Our mailserver (catering to @mandrivauser.de) does not show such figures. The percentage of our mailserver shows 56.16% accepted, 43.84 rejected. Of these accepted mails our spam filter shows 20% spam (average). Accordingly the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread Tux99
Quote: Maarten Vanraes wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 19:15 to be honest, i reread this thread a few times, and i have no idea... i clarified my point, but i donno why i was making such a point in the first place, cause it doesn't seem to make any sense... Hmmm, it's Friday evening, I

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:23:51 schreef Tux99: Quote: Maarten Vanraes wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 19:15 to be honest, i reread this thread a few times, and i have no idea... i clarified my point, but i donno why i was making such a point in the first place, cause it doesn't seem to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com: Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:23:51 schreef Tux99: Quote: Maarten Vanraes wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 19:15 to be honest, i reread this thread a few times, and i have no idea... i clarified my point, but i donno why i was making such a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:41:59 schreef Wolfgang Bornath: 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com: Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:23:51 schreef Tux99: Quote: Maarten Vanraes wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 19:15 to be honest, i reread this thread a few times, and i have no idea...

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com: well, maybe some belgians don't drink any beer... :-) Well, I have lots of witnesses that you do not belong to this very small group! Sorry for the OT! -- wobo

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread andre999
nicolas vigier a écrit : On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, andre999 wrote: Frank Griffin a écrit : Romain d'Alverny wrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffinf...@roadrunner.com wrote: Maarten Vanraes wrote: C. how about we makepackagename@packages.mageia.org, which could use the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread andre999
Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2011/3/4 Tux99tux99-...@uridium.org: Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:36 Why? Don't you know how to use filters in your mail client? I guess you do know. I have an inbox for each mailing list, my mail client (actually google mail) stores each

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-04 Thread Buchan Milne
On Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:43:25 Maarten Vanraes wrote: I think we need to have a name and email address. however, some options: A. possibly cn could be editable in identity Please stop referring to possibilities that exist as if they don't ... it is depressing that people keep

[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Hi there, in the past few days/hours, on sysadmin list has a discussion arisen about publishing packager email into commit/change log; you can check the whole thread, here are three starting points of it: * https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-sysadm/2011-March/002946.html *

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Tux99
Romain you forgot to specify that currently aliases are used in the Mageia packages and no email addresses are included. So the discussion started because some people wanted to change this. Well, I repeat my point of view as posted in the other thread: - each packager should be free to decide

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Frank Griffin
Romain d'Alverny wrote: The points to decide here are: a) should a contributor provide a public email address, to be used in changelogs, commits and everywhere her contribution to the project needs an id or contact id? (for instance changelog, commit, document authoring) b) should a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Tux99
Quote: rdalverny wrote on Thu, 03 March 2011 15:27 So that's already a significant difference from the previous discussion... It's not, I said that in the other thread too but obviously you never read my posts: http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=msgth=2367goto=7691

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Buchan Milne
- Romain d'Alverny rdalve...@gmail.com wrote: * packagers/contributors [sh|w]ould use publish their real name (as registered in identity), I would just like to note that, during registration on identity, we only prompt for a 'First name' and 'Surname', however we populate the LDAP

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Balcaen John
Le jeudi 03 mars 2011 11:00:01, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : Hi there, Hello, [...] a) should a contributor provide a public email address, to be used in changelogs, commits and everywhere her contribution to the project needs an id or contact id? (for instance changelog, commit, document

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 03 mars 2011 à 15:00 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit : Hi there, in the past few days/hours, on sysadmin list has a discussion arisen about publishing packager email into commit/change log; you can check the whole thread, here are three starting points of it: *

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread andre999
Romain d'Alverny a écrit : Hi there, in the past few days/hours, on sysadmin list has a discussion arisen about publishing packager email into commit/change log; you can check the whole thread, here are three starting points of it: *

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Tux99
Quote: Thomas Backlund wrote on Thu, 03 March 2011 17:21 Signed-off-by: Random J Developer ran...@developer.example.org using your real name (sorry, no pseudonyms or anonymous contributions.) The Linux kernel has more than enough contributors so it can afford to introduce

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 03 mars 2011 à 11:13 -0500, andre999 a écrit : 2) @mageia.org lessens the personal spam problem, and looks more official as well. It doesn't lessen the problem, it move it to someone else ( ie, sysadmin team ). -- Michael Scherer

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Hoyt Duff
On 3/3/11, andre999 and...@laposte.net wrote: Personnally I like pse...@mageia.org, with real name and direct adresse optional. 1) anyone who wants to can give a phony name anyway. 2) @mageia.org lessens the personal spam problem, and looks more official as well. It will also give Mageia

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 3 March 2011 16:00, Romain d'Alverny rdalve...@gmail.com wrote: [...] The points to decide here are:  a) should a contributor provide a public email address, to be used in changelogs, commits and everywhere her contribution to the project needs an id or contact id? (for instance

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread nicolas vigier
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Romain d'Alverny wrote: The points to decide here are: a) should a contributor provide a public email address, to be used in changelogs, commits and everywhere her contribution to the project needs an id or contact id? (for instance changelog, commit, document

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny: On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote: Maarten Vanraes wrote: C. how about we make packagename@packages.mageia.org, which could use the maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers (in

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Frank Griffin
Romain d'Alverny wrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote: Maarten Vanraes wrote: C. how about we make packagename@packages.mageia.org, which could use the maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers (in case of more) (this could also

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread nicolas vigier
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote: Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny: On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote: Maarten Vanraes wrote: C. how about we make packagename@packages.mageia.org, which could use the maintainers

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Thomas Spuhler
On Thursday, March 03, 2011 07:43:11 am Tux99 wrote: Quote: rdalverny wrote on Thu, 03 March 2011 15:27 So that's already a significant difference from the previous discussion... It's not, I said that in the other thread too but obviously you never read my posts:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 03.03.2011 16:00, Romain d'Alverny wrote: [...] The points to decide here are: a) should a contributor provide a public email address, to be used in changelogs, commits and everywhere her contribution to the project needs an id or contact id? (for instance changelog, commit, document

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 04.03.2011 00:51, Maarten Vanraes wrote: Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier: On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote: Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny: On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote: Maarten