Hello
On lundi 28 mars 2011 at 00:33, andre999 wrote :
> If we want to avoid the situation where people are dissatisfied because
> the DVD they install produces a Mageia system where the hardware doesn't
> work properly, we have to provide a single DVD that is complete, in
> terms of hardware dr
On 03/27/2011 06:41 PM, andre999 wrote:
Good ! That is exactly our point. We _care_ if there is more than 1
ISO for the basic install.
And it doesn't in any way detract from the purist's right to think
that they are only installing "free" software.
(Given that even the Linux kernel has non-f
On 03/27/2011 06:33 PM, andre999 wrote:
Frank Griffin a écrit :
On 03/26/2011 06:37 PM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
During the times mandriva had several CDs to install it, the new ones
often
only dl'ed one and complained when stuff didn't work.
I forsee possibly here the same issue with this, pe
Frank Griffin a écrit :
On 03/26/2011 08:58 PM, Tux99 wrote:
And why should all of us suffer the hassle of a DVD + a CD (how would
that
work for all those that use USB-sticks, do they now need two sticks?
I guess you must have missed the six or so times I stated that I don't
give a rat's what
Frank Griffin a écrit :
On 03/26/2011 06:37 PM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
During the times mandriva had several CDs to install it, the new ones
often
only dl'ed one and complained when stuff didn't work.
I forsee possibly here the same issue with this, people will forget to
download the extra no
Quote: Oliver Burger wrote on Sun, 27 March 2011 17:40
> By the way: I know, Debian are just a small group of "ultra-orthodox
> software fanatics", but that's exactly, what they are doing...
I'm aware that Debian does this now. While I don't think that all (or even
most) Debian supporters are
2011/3/27 Tux99 :
>
>
> Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Sun, 27 March 2011 17:11
>
>> Do you really think it will help to find a consent calling people who
>> do not share your opinion "ultra-orthodox software fanatics"?
>
> Why? An 'orthodox' is a person who follows his beliefs very very strictly
Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Sun, 27 March 2011 17:11
> Do you really think it will help to find a consent calling people who
> do not share your opinion "ultra-orthodox software fanatics"?
Why? An 'orthodox' is a person who follows his beliefs very very strictly,
'fanatic' has a similar m
Wolfgang Bornath schrieb am 27.03.2011
> 2011/3/27 Tux99 :
> > And why should all of us suffer the hassle of a DVD + a CD (how
> > would that work for all those that use USB-sticks, do they now
> > need two sticks? And do you expect magazines to include a DVD+CD
> > to please Mageia? What about al
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:11:07 +0200
Wolfgang Bornath
wrote:
> 2011/3/27 Tux99 :
> >
> > And why should all of us suffer the hassle of a DVD + a CD (how would that
> > work for all those that use USB-sticks, do they now need two sticks? And
> > do you expect magazines to include a DVD+CD to please M
2011/3/27 Tux99 :
>
> And why should all of us suffer the hassle of a DVD + a CD (how would that
> work for all those that use USB-sticks, do they now need two sticks? And
> do you expect magazines to include a DVD+CD to please Mageia? What about
> all the extra waste and pollution cause by dual me
Quote: Frank Griffin wrote on Sun, 27 March 2011 15:03
> On 03/26/2011 08:58 PM, Tux99 wrote:
> >
> > And why should all of us suffer the hassle of a DVD + a CD (how
> > would that
> > work for all those that use USB-sticks, do they now need two
> > sticks?
> I guess you must have missed the six
On 03/26/2011 08:58 PM, Tux99 wrote:
And why should all of us suffer the hassle of a DVD + a CD (how would that
work for all those that use USB-sticks, do they now need two sticks?
I guess you must have missed the six or so times I stated that I don't
give a rat's whatever about whether there's
Quote: Frank Griffin wrote on Sun, 27 March 2011 00:34
> For you to complain that because you have minimal network access, the
> rest of the Mageia community should bend over backwards to avoid your
> having to swap a few CDs during install is a pretty hollow argument, in
>
> my opinion.
And
On 03/26/2011 06:37 PM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
During the times mandriva had several CDs to install it, the new ones often
only dl'ed one and complained when stuff didn't work.
I forsee possibly here the same issue with this, people will forget to
download the extra non_free CD, or do not care
On 03/26/2011 01:11 AM, andre999 wrote:
Frank Griffin a écrit :
From what you say, there are not a lot of points of disagreement
between us, on this issue.
We both have contributed to open source for a long time, you
apparently mostly on developement/packaging, myself mostly
translating/ aid
Op zaterdag 26 maart 2011 23:15:22 schreef Oliver Burger:
> Anssi Hannula schrieb am 26.03.2011
>
> > I don't really have a strong preference here, as long as
> > 1) it is consistent, and
> > 2) users are happy (e.g. no situation where even the free radeon
> > driver doesn't work with any ISO)
>
Anssi Hannula schrieb am 26.03.2011
> I don't really have a strong preference here, as long as
> 1) it is consistent, and
> 2) users are happy (e.g. no situation where even the free radeon
> driver doesn't work with any ISO)
Couldn't we have the following:
- Live CDs (like Mandriva One, including
On 24.03.2011 22:27, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 20:08, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>> On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
>>> Summary (from http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy):
>>> * core: stuff that is not Free/Open Source according to OSI/FSF does
>>> n
Op zaterdag 26 maart 2011 13:19:10 schreef Michael scherer:
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 09:33:04AM +0100, Tux99 wrote:
> > Quote: andr55 wrote on Fri, 25 March 2011 01:29
> >
> > > My though was essentially that firmware is so close to hardware that
> > > its
> > > actual free/non-free status should
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 09:33:04AM +0100, Tux99 wrote:
>
>
> Quote: andr55 wrote on Fri, 25 March 2011 01:29
>
> > My though was essentially that firmware is so close to hardware that
> > its
> > actual free/non-free status shouldn't apply - we should treat it like
> > (almost) part of the har
Frank Griffin a écrit :
On 03/25/2011 12:34 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
My two cents as an user:
Presumably, FLOSS supporters are satisfied with the state of the current
ISOs, and https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523 would address
extending install functionality without changing the cont
On 03/25/2011 12:34 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
My two cents as an user:
Presumably, FLOSS supporters are satisfied with the state of the current
ISOs, and https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523 would address
extending install functionality without changing the content of the
existing ISOs,
2011/3/25 Antoine Pitrou :
>
>
> OTOH, if aforementioned non-free software can be downloaded
> automatically over the Internet (especially during installation), then
> the whole issue becomes moot.
The start of this debate (which has grown very far beyond the initial
request) was how to add non-fr
On 03/25/2011 11:47 AM, Anssi Hannula wrote:
On 25.03.2011 14:04, Frank Griffin wrote:
Presumably, FLOSS supporters are satisfied with the state of the current
ISOs,
I'd not presume that, as as previously stated they contain firmware
files without source code even now.
Perhaps I should have ph
My two cents as an user:
> Presumably, FLOSS supporters are satisfied with the state of the current
> ISOs, and https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523 would address
> extending install functionality without changing the content of the
> existing ISOs, which should be an improvement over w
On 25.03.2011 14:04, Frank Griffin wrote:
> Presumably, FLOSS supporters are satisfied with the state of the current
> ISOs,
I'd not presume that, as as previously stated they contain firmware
files without source code even now.
--
Anssi Hannula
2011/3/25 Frank Griffin :
>
> You can say what you like about newbies or "Aunt Edna", but anyone who can
> find one ISO for themselves can find two, and the argument about how the
> drivers/firmware wouldn't take up much space on the DVD goes both ways,
> since downloading a separate ISO for them i
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:17:27 +0200 (SAST)
Buchan Milne wrote:
>
> - "andre999" wrote:
>
>
> > ok.
> > My though was essentially that firmware is so close to hardware
> > that its
> > actual free/non-free status shouldn't apply - we should treat
> > it like
> >
> > (almost) part of the h
This has really moved away from the question of providing
drivers/firmware to a "pissing contest" about whose philosophy the
default offerings should represent.
Presumably, FLOSS supporters are satisfied with the state of the current
ISOs, and https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523 would
- "Tux99" wrote:
> Quote: andr55 wrote on Fri, 25 March 2011 01:29
>
> > My though was essentially that firmware is so close to hardware
> that
> > its
> > actual free/non-free status shouldn't apply - we should treat it
> like
> > (almost) part of the hardware.
>
> I agree with that. Af
Am 25.03.2011 09:23, schrieb Buchan Milne:
Maybe for you. Maybe for me. But, the*real* question is, would this discourage
some of our target market from using our distribution.
IOW, we*must* get community input (after documenting some proposals).
Maybe we should postpone this question.
Let
Quote: andr55 wrote on Fri, 25 March 2011 01:29
> My though was essentially that firmware is so close to hardware that
> its
> actual free/non-free status shouldn't apply - we should treat it like
> (almost) part of the hardware.
I agree with that. After all nobody (apart from R. Stallmann) q
- "Maarten Vanraes" wrote:
> Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 11:18:03 schreef Olivier Blin:
> > Wolfgang Bornath writes:
> > >>> It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously
> the
> > >>> firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has
> been
> > >>> changed in t
- "andre999" wrote:
> Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
> >
> > 2011/3/24 Olivier Blin:
> >> Thorsten van Lil writes:
> >>
> >>> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
> > On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan
> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 03:17:27 -0400, Buchan Milne
wrote:
But, that is *your* view.
IMHO, some of these questions should be posed to the community.
My opinion, is that the there must be an iso that includes
everything needed to install a basic system, and get updates
or other software.
If the
- "andre999" wrote:
> ok.
> My though was essentially that firmware is so close to hardware that
> its
> actual free/non-free status shouldn't apply - we should treat it like
>
> (almost) part of the hardware.
I would agree, but some people wouldn't.
> As for the drivers, a little more
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 01:29, andre999 wrote:
> My though was essentially that firmware is so close to hardware that its
> actual free/non-free status shouldn't apply - we should treat it like
> (almost) part of the hardware.
No. Because it's hardware or firmware doesn't make it more or less an
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:29 AM, andre999 wrote:
> ok.
> My though was essentially that firmware is so close to hardware that its
> actual free/non-free status shouldn't apply - we should treat it like
> (almost) part of the hardware.
>
> As for the drivers, a little more distant from the hardware
JA Magallón a écrit :
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:41:18 -0400, andre999 wrote:
Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 20:08, Anssi Hannula wrote:
On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
Summary (from http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy):
* core: stuff that
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:41:18 -0400, andre999 wrote:
> Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 20:08, Anssi Hannula wrote:
> >> On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> >>> Summary (from http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy):
> >>> * core: stuff that is n
Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 20:08, Anssi Hannula wrote:
On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
Summary (from http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy):
* core: stuff that is not Free/Open Source according to OSI/FSF does
not belong here. Not even clos
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 20:08, Anssi Hannula wrote:
> On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
>> Summary (from http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy):
>> * core: stuff that is not Free/Open Source according to OSI/FSF does
>> not belong here. Not even closed-source stuff that w
Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
care about the issue does not mean we should not care either. We
should
Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 11:18:03 schreef Olivier Blin:
> Wolfgang Bornath writes:
> >>> It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously the
> >>> firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has been
> >>> changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the matter get dis
Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
2011/3/24 Olivier Blin:
Thorsten van Lil writes:
Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morganwrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samirwrote:
Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever cont
On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 17:45, Michael Scherer wrote:
>> But my issue is not about non-free firmwares and those who use them or
>> not, but about the gradual move to non-free packages on the free dvd iso
>> ( http://netsplit.com/2006/11/27/slippery-sl
Ahmad Samir a écrit :
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote:
Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free" dvd iso,
and this question is i think interesti
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 17:45, Michael Scherer wrote:
> But my issue is not about non-free firmwares and those who use them or
> not, but about the gradual move to non-free packages on the free dvd iso
> ( http://netsplit.com/2006/11/27/slippery-slopes/ ).
>
> When I started at Mandrake Linux, the
Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 14:24 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
> On 24.03.2011 12:53, Michael Scherer wrote:
> > Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 11:15 +0100, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
> >> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
> >>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morga
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:18:03 +0100, Olivier Blin wrote:
> Wolfgang Bornath writes:
>
> >>> It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously the
> >>> firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has been
> >>> changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the matter get
On 24.03.2011 14:41, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> 2011/3/24 Anssi Hannula :
>> On 24.03.2011 12:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
>>> But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
>>> in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
>>> care about the issue does
On 24 March 2011 11:38, Olivier Blin wrote:
>> What about a DVD including non-free packages but has the option to not
>> install them?
>> I think the majority of the users don't care that much about
>> proprietary issues, they just need them for using there wireless card
>> or graphic card. Those
2011/3/24 Anssi Hannula :
> On 24.03.2011 12:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
>> But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
>> in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
>> care about the issue does not mean we should not care either. We
>> should ra
On 24.03.2011 12:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
> in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
> care about the issue does not mean we should not care either. We
> should rather stress the point.
Note tha
On 24.03.2011 12:53, Michael Scherer wrote:
> Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 11:15 +0100, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
>> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
>>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
> wr
Am 24.03.2011 11:53, schrieb Michael Scherer:
Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 11:15 +0100, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
What about a DVD including non-free packages but has the option to not
install them?
I think the majority of the users don't care that much about proprietary
issues, they just need them
On Thursday, 24 March 2011 13:03:08 Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> 2011/3/24 Romain d'Alverny :
> > Well, that's precisely debatable (and why I'll try to setup a relevant
> > survey through marcom). The ISO can be seen as a static commodity
> > storage; that it holds core and nonfree makes no such diffe
On Thursday, 24 March 2011 12:48:22 Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:39, Wolfgang Bornath
wrote:
> > But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
> > in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
> > care about the issue does no
On Thursday, 24 March 2011 10:57:17 Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir :
> > On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
> >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
wrote:
> >>> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
> >>
> >> No, but the question is
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:03, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> In the public appearance this would make a difference. As soon as
> there is non-free contents on the ISO it is a non-free ISO. That we
> provide non-free on the mirrors doesn't make Mageia a non-free distro,
> only what we offer as "product
2011/3/24 Romain d'Alverny :
>
> Well, that's precisely debatable (and why I'll try to setup a relevant
> survey through marcom). The ISO can be seen as a static commodity
> storage; that it holds core and nonfree makes no such difference as
> that those two media are available from the network wit
2011/3/24 Oliver Burger :
> Am Donnerstag 24 März 2011, 11:43:57 schrieb Rémi Verschelde:
>> 2011/3/24 Wolfgang Bornath :
>> > We already made such a difference by using different repositories, we
>> > not continue this in our "product line"? We use a different repo for
>> > non-free, we also shoul
On 03/24/2011 04:57 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
A possible solution for people with such a setup could be a non-free
"driver cd ISO" which they could include in the installation process.
Excellent suggestion, and it dovetails with another problem: being able
to do a network install over a wi
Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 11:15 +0100, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
> > 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
> >> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
> >>> wrote:
>
> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva
Am Donnerstag 24 März 2011, 11:43:57 schrieb Rémi Verschelde:
> 2011/3/24 Wolfgang Bornath :
> > We already made such a difference by using different repositories, we
> > not continue this in our "product line"? We use a different repo for
> > non-free, we also should use a different ISO for non-fr
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
> in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
> care about the issue does not mean we should not care either. We
> should rather stress the point
Donald Stewart skrev 24.3.2011 11:39:
I've never installed with more than one cd, but from memory, the
installer asks for extra media, surely if your installing from the
free dvd and have to eject it to add a non-free cd then that would
cause problems, or have I misunderstood?
Nope,
Installer
2011/3/24 Wolfgang Bornath :
>
> We already made such a difference by using different repositories, we
> not continue this in our "product line"? We use a different repo for
> non-free, we also should use a different ISO for non-free.
>
That's what I was thinking about. Could it be possible to hav
2011/3/24 Olivier Blin :
> Thorsten van Lil writes:
>
>> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
>>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
> wrote:
>>
>> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever co
2011/3/24 Thorsten van Lil :
>
> What about a DVD including non-free packages but has the option to not
> install them?
> I think the majority of the users don't care that much about proprietary
> issues, they just need them for using there wireless card or graphic card.
> Those how do care can jus
Thorsten van Lil writes:
> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
>>> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
wrote:
>
> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
>>>
2011/3/24 Thorsten van Lil :
> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
>>
>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
>>>
>>> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
wrote:
>
> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmw
Wolfgang Bornath writes:
>>> It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously the
>>> firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has been
>>> changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the matter get discussed
>>> yet).
>>
>> They were also on the PowerPack images, an
Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote:
Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free"
2011/3/24 Olivier Blin :
> Ahmad Samir writes:
>
>> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
>>> wrote:
Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
>>>
>>> No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non fre
Ahmad Samir writes:
> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
>>
>> No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free" dvd iso,
>> and this question is
I opened https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523
--
wobo
On 24 March 2011 05:22, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> 2011/3/24 Thomas Backlund :
>> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 24.3.2011 10:57:
>>>
>>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously the
firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has b
2011/3/24 Thomas Backlund :
> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 24.3.2011 10:57:
>>
>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
>>>
>>> It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously the
>>> firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has been
>>> changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the mat
Wolfgang Bornath skrev 24.3.2011 10:57:
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously the
firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has been
changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the matter get discussed
yet).
Correct. It's the same
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir :
> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
>>
>> No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free" dvd iso,
>> and this question
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote:
>>
>> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
>
> No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free" dvd iso,
> and this question is i think interesting.
>
It can't
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote:
>
> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free" dvd iso,
and this question is i think interesting.
2011/3/24 JA Magallón :
> Hi...
>
> First of all, I have tried alpha2 on a couple systems, and apart from some
> glitches it works pretty fine, I could even work regularly on it...
>
> But there is just one thing that disappointed me.
>
> It looks that there is no non-free soft in installer DVD. I
Hi...
First of all, I have tried alpha2 on a couple systems, and apart from some
glitches it works pretty fine, I could even work regularly on it...
But there is just one thing that disappointed me.
It looks that there is no non-free soft in installer DVD. I can live without
nVidia drivers till
86 matches
Mail list logo
