Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-30 Thread Angelo Naselli
Sorry for my late answer, but i could not read it before. If one does another update (i.e. adds subrel), it should mean that the fixes/whatever have been done to the cauldron tree first and thus cauldron has 1.0-2.mga1, while mga1 gets 1.0-1.1.mga1. That's also my point of view... Maintainer

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-29 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 28/07/11 13:11 did gyre and gimble: Le jeudi 28 juillet 2011 13:02:26, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 28/07/11 09:08 did gyre and gimble: We have updates blocked by this release 0 issue, so we need a quick decision. I

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-29 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le vendredi 29 juillet 2011 10:25:02, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 28/07/11 13:11 did gyre and gimble: Le jeudi 28 juillet 2011 13:02:26, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 28/07/11 09:08 did gyre and gimble: We have updates

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-29 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 29/07/11 09:32 did gyre and gimble: Le vendredi 29 juillet 2011 10:25:02, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 28/07/11 13:11 did gyre and gimble: Le jeudi 28 juillet 2011 13:02:26, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-29 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le jeudi 28 juillet 2011 10:08:44, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 22:52:00, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 16:59:37, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Ok, there will be no meeting tonight, so let's decide it on the ML. Was everyone convinced

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-29 Thread Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
Le Vendredi 29 Juillet 2011 22:16:26 Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le jeudi 28 juillet 2011 10:08:44, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 22:52:00, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 16:59:37, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Ok, there will be no meeting

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-29 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le vendredi 29 juillet 2011 22:45:41, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz a écrit : Le Vendredi 29 Juillet 2011 22:16:26 Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le jeudi 28 juillet 2011 10:08:44, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 22:52:00, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mercredi 27

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-28 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 22:52:00, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 16:59:37, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 12:52:04, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 19:38:30, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mardi 26 juillet 2011

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-28 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 28/07/11 09:08 did gyre and gimble: We have updates blocked by this release 0 issue, so we need a quick decision. I propose that if tomorrow nobody reacted against the proposal, it will be adopted. Personally, I would vote to keep it the way it is with

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-28 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le jeudi 28 juillet 2011 13:02:26, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 28/07/11 09:08 did gyre and gimble: We have updates blocked by this release 0 issue, so we need a quick decision. I propose that if tomorrow nobody reacted against the proposal, it will be

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-27 Thread Sander Lepik
27.07.2011 17:59, Samuel Verschelde kirjutas: Ok, there will be no meeting tonight, so let's decide it on the ML. Was everyone convinced by misc's demonstration and do we agree to stop using the 0 release for updates and activate the Youri::Submit::Test::Precedence check on submit to prevent

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-27 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 16:59:37, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011 12:52:04, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 19:38:30, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 18:42:05, Michael Scherer a écrit : [snip] Yet, the problem

[Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Michael Scherer
Hi, while trying to work on the queue of update needing a push, I noticed that almost all of them use a Release: 0. Since this has a specific meaning ( ie, used for pre release, or svn snapshot ), using this for updates is quite confusing, and I do not see the reason for that. If the goal is

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Luc Menut
Le 26/07/2011 12:40, Michael Scherer a écrit : Hi, while trying to work on the queue of update needing a push, I noticed that almost all of them use a Release: 0. Since this has a specific meaning ( ie, used for pre release, or svn snapshot ), using this for updates is quite confusing, and I

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Sander Lepik
26.07.2011 13:40, Michael Scherer kirjutas: Hi, while trying to work on the queue of update needing a push, I noticed that almost all of them use a Release: 0. Since this has a specific meaning ( ie, used for pre release, or svn snapshot ), using this for updates is quite confusing, and I do

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 26 July 2011 13:22, Luc Menut lme...@free.fr wrote: Le 26/07/2011 12:40, Michael Scherer a écrit : Hi, while trying to work on the queue of update needing a push, I noticed that almost all of them use a Release: 0. Since this has a specific meaning ( ie, used for pre release, or svn

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 12:40:02, Michael Scherer a écrit : Hi, while trying to work on the queue of update needing a push, I noticed that almost all of them use a Release: 0. Since this has a specific meaning ( ie, used for pre release, or svn snapshot ), using this for updates is quite

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 17:48:55, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 12:40:02, Michael Scherer a écrit : Hi, while trying to work on the queue of update needing a push, I noticed that almost all of them use a Release: 0. Since this has a specific meaning ( ie,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 26/07/11 11:40 did gyre and gimble: If the goal is to be sure that the software is still upgradable, the whole %mkrel stuff should take care of that. No it doesn't. That only works for one release assuming we do not use subrel with that release. Even with

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 26.07.2011 18:48, Samuel Verschelde wrote: Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 12:40:02, Michael Scherer a écrit : Hi, while trying to work on the queue of update needing a push, I noticed that almost all of them use a Release: 0. Since this has a specific meaning ( ie, used for pre release, or svn

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 26.07.2011 19:20, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 26/07/11 11:40 did gyre and gimble: If the goal is to be sure that the software is still upgradable, the whole %mkrel stuff should take care of that. No it doesn't. That only works for one release assuming we do

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 à 15:26 +0300, Ahmad Samir a écrit : On 26 July 2011 13:22, Luc Menut lme...@free.fr wrote: Le 26/07/2011 12:40, Michael Scherer a écrit : Hi, while trying to work on the queue of update needing a push, I noticed that almost all of them use a Release: 0.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Sander Lepik
26.07.2011 19:42, Michael Scherer kirjutas: Likely because none of them know the specific meaning of using 0. From where is this specific meaning coming? Where is it documented? -- Sander

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 à 17:53 +0200, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 17:48:55, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 12:40:02, Michael Scherer a écrit : Hi, while trying to work on the queue of update needing a push, I noticed that almost all

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Anssi Hannula at 26/07/11 17:27 did gyre and gimble: On 26.07.2011 19:20, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 26/07/11 11:40 did gyre and gimble: If the goal is to be sure that the software is still upgradable, the whole %mkrel stuff should take care

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 18:26:25, Anssi Hannula a écrit : On 26.07.2011 18:48, Samuel Verschelde wrote: Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 12:40:02, Michael Scherer a écrit : Hi, while trying to work on the queue of update needing a push, I noticed that almost all of them use a Release: 0.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 18:55:31, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Anssi Hannula at 26/07/11 17:27 did gyre and gimble: On 26.07.2011 19:20, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 26/07/11 11:40 did gyre and gimble: If the goal is to be sure that the software

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 18:42:05, Michael Scherer a écrit : [snip] Yet, the problem would also be there for regular non-version upgrade ( ie, if we have foo-2-2.mga2 in cauldron and stable, and that we need to rebuild on stable and not on cauldron, we face the same problem ), so using 0 is

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 à 19:46 +0300, Sander Lepik a écrit : 26.07.2011 19:42, Michael Scherer kirjutas: Likely because none of them know the specific meaning of using 0. From where is this specific meaning coming? Where is it documented? Where does it come, I do not know, likely due to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

2011-07-26 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 à 19:21 +0200, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 18:26:25, Anssi Hannula a écrit : On 26.07.2011 18:48, Samuel Verschelde wrote: Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 12:40:02, Michael Scherer a écrit : Hi, while trying to work on the queue of update