Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Brad I can't speak for Barry or anyone else, but when I use
Brad Mailman to handle mailing lists for webmaster, postmaster,
Brad etc..., there is a 99% chance that any one particular
Brad message is spam, and I have to take a
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 12:21 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
I would assume I could use the
http://USER:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/lists/admindb/LIST
form to autologin. Haven't tried, I'm anal-compulsive about password
protection, and my browser usually lives for a couple months at a time.
its a
At 5:32 PM +0900 2006-01-03, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
1. All the ban-author options should go, they take up _way_ too much
space. In all the lists I've ever subscribed to, I've only seen one
case where they would have been appropriate, and that guy quickly
learned not only
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
3. Where possible, the information _and the controls_ for a single
entry should be on a single line. I think it's reasonable to
assume as a default that the moderator has at least a 1024px width
screen
Now there, I
On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 22:10 -0600, Brad Knowles wrote:
But then we're getting dangerously close to tools like Active
Spam Killer or TMDA, which I am generally violently opposed to.
I think they're different use cases. My main problem with such tools is
when people email me first, I try
On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 22:05 -0600, Brad Knowles wrote:
For the larger ones, I'd like to see something like Skip's
mmfold.py script that could run locally on the same server where
the lists are located, so that no use of a web browser is required,
and so that the program could
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 12:21 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
BAW I find that my typical approach is to scan the summary,
BAW opening any potential ham
I assume you mean ham = on-topic, spam = off-topic, possibly but not
necessarily UCE?
In this context, yep!
Our lists don't have
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 09:09 +, Nigel Metheringham wrote:
its a form so not quite like that - try
http://lists.DOMAIN.TLD/lists/admindb/LIST?adminpw=yourpassword
Personally I have a bookmarks folder within Firefox with all the lists I
handle as bookmarks within that set up with
At 11:38 PM +0900 2006-01-03, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
My reason for proposing that as default, though, is that if somebody
requires bigger fonts or smaller screen, then really, shouldn't
somebody with good eyes or equipment volunteer for that burden?
I don't think you can make
At 12:07 PM -0500 2006-01-03, Barry Warsaw wrote:
I'm actually thinking we need /less/ magic in command line scripts,
especially for typical user and admin tasks, because I think
increasingly, fewer people have access to the command line (or know what
to do with it when they've got it).
R == R Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
R Where I think something inside GNU Mailman could be a little
R better than a second list is that the integration could enforce
R that the email associated with person logging in to the webpage
R or sending moderation by email is also
Brad == Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Brad But then we're getting dangerously close to tools like
Brad Active Spam Killer or TMDA,
Technically, yes.
Brad which I am generally violently opposed to.
Brad Maybe those kinds of tools are appropriate for mailing
At 12:21 PM +0900 2006-01-03, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Our lists don't have a topicality problem, so I don't think I've ever
had need to open a post. The summary subject invariably shows spam
vs. ham.
I can't speak for Barry or anyone else, but when I use Mailman to
handle
R. Bernstein wrote:
Please allow me explain why I initially posted to mailman-developer.
Your reasons make perfect sense. I don't want you to think I was saying
your reasons were wrong when I mentioned in my prior post that I might
not have approved your initial post. Just that there is
On Dec 31, 2005, at 23:22, Brad Knowles wrote:
some lists have as many as 100 messages waiting in
the queue to be moderated, and some of those messages date back to
May of 2005. I think that this is a problem that needs to be
addressed within the Mailman package, and not just something that
Thanks also for the suggestion of setting up a list just to send out
moderator passwords. I'll pass that suggestion and the one by Robby on
global detection of mailing-neglect back to the the GNU discussion
group. I hope that will help. Should they go that route, I'll try to
withdraw the
At 3:48 AM -0500 2006-01-01, Robby Griffin wrote:
Here's what I've done for somewhat unrelated reasons:
- patch bin/discard to support rejecting held messages
and providing rejection comments.
- add a cron job that rejects held messages older than 10 days,
with the following
At 12:15 PM -0500 2006-01-01, R. Bernstein wrote:
***If I have this correct, where GNU mailman seems to differ from say
sourceforge bug and feature trackers is that in GNU Mailman where
there is a password associated with a moderator and an administrator
*account*, in sourceforge tracker,
R. Bernstein wrote:
I guess sometimes things are not what they may seem initally, so many
thanks for the detailed explanation; it all makes sense. It is also
interesting to learn that the GNU mailman mailing lists have the same
problems as other GNU lists. But it sounds like the GNU mailman
On Jan 1, 2006, at 13:51, Brad Knowles wrote:
At 3:48 AM -0500 2006-01-01, Robby Griffin wrote:
Here's what I've done for somewhat unrelated reasons:
- patch bin/discard to support rejecting held messages
and providing rejection comments.
- add a cron job that rejects held messages
On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 18:56 -0800, JC Dill wrote:
The main problem I think Rocky is experiencing is the problem of absent
moderators, period. Rather than some automated method of turning the
moderator tasks over to others, I suggest that a better way is to more
closely oversee pending
On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 22:22 -0600, Brad Knowles wrote:
Okay, now that is truly weird. I thought it was kind of
off-topic myself, but I thought that it would be one that either you
or Barry would have approved of, so I approved it on that basis.
I definitely think it's on-topic for
First let me say that I think JC and Brad are doing a great job
moderating the lists, and I /greatly/ appreciate their help with this!
Second, I think there's one more use case that might work well for
general help lists like mailman-users (but not mailman-developers).
There should be a way for
On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 12:15 -0500, R. Bernstein wrote:
***If I have this correct, where GNU mailman seems to differ from say
sourceforge bug and feature trackers is that in GNU Mailman where
there is a password associated with a moderator and an administrator
*account*, in sourceforge
Note: the basic info of the below feature request has been posted
here:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1394592group_id=103atid=350103
I received an weird but interesting weird email the other day that got
me thinking about moderation of GNU mailing lists. Here's a
Brad Knowles wrote:
But there's a problem with multiple moderators, one that we have
on the mailman-users and mailman-developers lists ourselves -- in
addition to many other lists hosted on python.org. In short, the
problem is getting all the moderators to follow the same moderation
At 6:56 PM -0800 2005-12-31, JC Dill wrote:
That's a very interesting and accurate observation. In fact, the
moderated post that started this thread is one that I don't think I
would have approved for posting to this list! I felt mildly (but not
strongly) that this was a discussion that
Brad Knowles writes:
You can list as many moderators for a list as you like.
Fine. One just needs a way for people who are members of a list
to be able to volunteer to be a moderator.
But there's a problem with multiple moderators, one that we have
on the mailman-users and
Brad Knowles writes:
Okay, now that is truly weird. I thought it was kind of
off-topic myself, but I thought that it would be one that either you
or Barry would have approved of, so I approved it on that basis.
What I find truly weird is all the discussion of the moderation
process
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