Re: [Mailman-Users] confusing permission errors, help please

2005-12-20 Thread Hugh Esco
That's a never mind. Turns out I missed the forest while looking at the trees. the mailman/cgi-bin/'s permissions were fine, but the mode on a directory a level or so up were too restrictive to let apache look that deep to read what was inside. a chmod 02775 fixed that and I now can browse

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman vs. Apache - please help

2005-12-20 Thread Ben
Mark, Thanks very much for tackling my issue. > -Original Message- > From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:23 PM > > >"Mailman CGI error!!! > >Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be > >executed as group "mm", but

[Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-20 Thread Ben
Hi folks, Aside from the Apache problem, I can't seem to get Mailman to create a list. This is on Cygwin. I give the command: $ newlist friends Enter the email of the person running the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Initial friends password: Create a new, unpopulated mailing list. Usage: /usr/lo

Re: [Mailman-Users] confusing permission errors, help please

2005-12-20 Thread Hugh Esco
It didn't matter. I backed it out. I then replicated my apache.conf vhost definition as gibberish.validdomain.org, where the vhost file for validdomain includes the first working mailman installation. This time, I got a working listinfo page reporting no lists for gibberish.validdomain.or

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman vs. Apache - please help

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: > >I get: >"Mailman CGI error!!! >Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be >executed as group "mm", but the system's web server executed the CGI >script as group "Administrators". Try tweaking the web server to run >the script as group "mm", or re-run configu

[Mailman-Users] Mailman vs. Apache - please help

2005-12-20 Thread Ben
Hi folks, I have the latest versions of Apache and Cygwin installed on my WinXP machine. Under Cygwin, I have Exim installed (and working), and Mailman (build and installed). I cannot get Mailman to co-operate with Apache. Following this advice: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all#

Re: [Mailman-Users] removing a post before digest

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mister Time wrote: >does anyone know where mailman resides on a server after it has been created >by cpanel? You might have better luck following the advice in . -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for ga

Re: [Mailman-Users] confusing permission errors, help please

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Hugh Esco wrote: > >As an experiment, I'll try the advise for suEXEC. If it doesn't get me >anywhere, I'll back it out. It doesn't matter whether Apache was compiled with it. If you do NOT have an SuexecUserGroup directive in your virtual host or globally in your Apache configuration, then thi

Re: [Mailman-Users] confusing permission errors, help please

2005-12-20 Thread Hugh Esco
I added the + sign, restarted the apache server and still got the same errors in the borwser and apache log: "Permission denied: access to /mailman/listinfo denied". I'm running gentoo (not SELinux) on this server, while my experience is with debian. A choice made by others, I'm afraid. So

Re: [Mailman-Users] confusing permission errors, help please

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Hugh Esco wrote: > >The apache error log for mumble still says: > > [Tue Dec 20 13:29:44 2005] [error] [client nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn] > (13)Permission denied: access to /mailman/listinfo denied So apparently, adding Options ExecCGI SetHandler cgi-script didn't

[Mailman-Users] apache config issue?

2005-12-20 Thread Hugh Esco
Mr. Sapiro: Thank you sir, for your help. Yes, I ran check_perms with and without -f as root until I got good results. I've now added the following stanza to my vhost.conf file: Options ExecCGI SetHandler cgi-script I don't know what would have undone that. That stan

Re: [Mailman-Users] can't see icons

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote: >I can't see any icons, just the placeholders and labels for them, when I >open Mailman. > >How do I direct Apache2 and Mailman to see where the icons reside so that >Mailman can properly display them? What I do is copy them to apache's icons directory as described in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Way to reset list Admin password?

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Thomas Waters wrote: >I replaced an older server today with a new Mac OS X XServe. I moved >my mailman lists and I see then in the Server Admin. but when I try >and access them via the Mailman web page UI, I get a " Authorization >failed" error when I try to enter my list moderator passwor

[Mailman-Users] Way to reset list Admin password?

2005-12-20 Thread Thomas Waters
I replaced an older server today with a new Mac OS X XServe. I moved my mailman lists and I see then in the Server Admin. but when I try and access them via the Mailman web page UI, I get a " Authorization failed" error when I try to enter my list moderator password. I found this in the

[Mailman-Users] can't see icons

2005-12-20 Thread Dr. Scott S. Jones
I can't see any icons, just the placeholders and labels for them, when I open Mailman. How do I direct Apache2 and Mailman to see where the icons reside so that Mailman can properly display them? Scott -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Us

Re: [Mailman-Users] scrubbing/posting attachments?

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben Bolker wrote: > > We would very much like to be able to configure Mailman to strip certain >attachments, but rather than deleting them entirely have them posted to >a temporary or archived location and have the attachment replaced by >a link to that location. (The point would be to allow user

Re: [Mailman-Users] Strange Email

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jess Mooers wrote: >I recently started receiving the following email: > >== Forwarded Message == >Date: 12/20/05 1:45 PM >Received: 12/20/05 2:12 PM -0600 >From: Cron Daemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >/usr/bin/python: can't open file '/Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news

[Mailman-Users] scrubbing/posting attachments?

2005-12-20 Thread Ben Bolker
(Don't know whether this post belongs in the development list or not ...) (I know very little about Mailman at this point, am just trying to gather some information.) We would very much like to be able to configure Mailman to strip certain attachments, but rather than deleting them entirely h

Re: [Mailman-Users] confusing permission errors, help please

2005-12-20 Thread Hugh Esco
Mr. Sapiro: Thank you sir, for your help. Yes, I ran check_perms with and without -f as root until I got good results. I've now added the following stanza to my vhost.conf file: Options ExecCGI SetHandler cgi-script I don't know what would have undone that. That stan

[Mailman-Users] Strange Email

2005-12-20 Thread Jess Mooers
I recently started receiving the following email: == Forwarded Message == Date: 12/20/05 1:45 PM Received: 12/20/05 2:12 PM -0600 From: Cron Daemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/Applications/mailman/cron/gate_news' == End Forwarded Messa

Re: [Mailman-Users] Topics & wildcards

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Can any type of wildcards (*) be used in the topics Regexp: area? I would >like to add a topic to include all message that do not belong to a topic, >how can I do this? These are Python regexps. See . But why do you want to

[Mailman-Users] Topics & wildcards

2005-12-20 Thread smielke
Can any type of wildcards (*) be used in the topics Regexp: area? I would like to add a topic to include all message that do not belong to a topic, how can I do this? S -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.pytho

Re: [Mailman-Users] removing a post before digest

2005-12-20 Thread Mister Time
does anyone know where mailman resides on a server after it has been created by cpanel? I have root access, but can not find it. Thanks. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

Re: [Mailman-Users] can moderators add moderators?

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Is there a way that a moderator can change the current moderator? > >For example, if I have 3 moderators and current moderator is going out of >town, can the current moderator assign the moderator job to one of the other >moderators? If the moderator knows the list adm

[Mailman-Users] can moderators add moderators?

2005-12-20 Thread smielke
Is there a way that a moderator can change the current moderator? For example, if I have 3 moderators and current moderator is going out of town, can the current moderator assign the moderator job to one of the other moderators? Thanks, S --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error when accessing Mailman CGI web interface

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > >Sorry for the misunderstanding. Both of the "/usr/bin/python ..." lines >above work without any problems, using either the mailman user or the apache >user. I know you said you rean check_perms, but verify that all the scripts in cgi-bin/ are SETGID and group mailman. B

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with archiving

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Josh Greenberg wrote: > >At first I think it was a permissions problem but I think I fixed that. >Originally, the public directory was owned by root:other and the private >was owned by nobody:nobody (the user/group that runs apache). I left the >private alone and chown'd the public dir to mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error when accessing Mailman CGI web interface

2005-12-20 Thread John Dennis
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 16:42 +, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > Thanks for your help. This is what I get from the two commands above: > > $ ls -l /home/mailman/domains/chuckie.co.uk/scripts/driver > -rw-r--r-- 1 mailman mailman 9736 Dec 20 14:20 > /home/mailman/domains/chuckie.co.uk/scripts/driver >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error when accessing Mailman CGI web interface

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 December 2005 16:38 > To: Mark Cave-Ayland; mailman-users@python.org > Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Error when accessing Mailman CGI web > interface (cut) > I meant try > > su - mailman > /usr/bin/python /home/

Re: [Mailman-Users] removing a post before digest

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mister Time wrote: >is there a simple method that I can remove a post before a digest is >triggered and not having it appear on the archives? It's already in the archives by the time you see it. See for info about removal. Y

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error when accessing Mailman CGI web interface

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
> -Original Message- > From: John Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 December 2005 16:32 > To: Mark Cave-Ayland > Cc: 'Mark Sapiro'; mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Error when accessing Mailman CGI web > interface > > what does > > ls -l /home/mailman/dom

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error when accessing Mailman CGI web interface

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > >The "su - mailman" version works without any problems, e.g. > >su - mailman >cd ~/domains/chuckie.co.uk/cgi-bin >./admin I meant try su - mailman /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/domains/chuckie.co.uk/scripts/driver (or perhaps) /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/domains/chuc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error when accessing Mailman CGI web interface

2005-12-20 Thread John Dennis
what does ls -l /home/mailman/domains/chuckie.co.uk/scripts/driver say? what does /usr/sbin/getenforce say? -- John Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

[Mailman-Users] Problems with archiving

2005-12-20 Thread Josh Greenberg
I have just recently installed mailman and I am trying to get the archiving feature to work. I have gone into the archiving settings on two different test lists that I set up and told them both to do archiving. I set one to public and one to private, just to see how each one reacted. So far, no

Re: [Mailman-Users] confusing permission errors, help please

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Hugh Esco wrote: >I might need to do several instances of mailman before the new year, sailed >right through my first install, but got stuck on the second one. I'm seeking >advice on how to build this. Apparently I will need a distinct instance for >each virtual host of the $prefix heirarchy.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error when accessing Mailman CGI web interface

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 December 2005 16:08 > To: Mark Cave-Ayland; mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Error when accessing Mailman CGI web > interface (cut) > What happens if you do the above with "su - mailman"

[Mailman-Users] removing a post before digest

2005-12-20 Thread Mister Time
Hi. is there a simple method that I can remove a post before a digest is triggered and not having it appear on the archives? Can this be done from the admin interface? also, is there a way to stop a digest from being released until I do this? Thanks! --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error when accessing Mailman CGI web interface

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: >However when I try and access the administration URL at >http://server/mailman/admin then I get the following error in the Apache >error log: > >[Tue Dec 20 14:23:00 2005] [error] [client 213.152.63.90] /usr/bin/python: >can't open file '/home/mailman/domains/chuckie.co.uk

Re: [Mailman-Users] Where's my mail?

2005-12-20 Thread Ben Ostrowsky
> See > . Thanks -- it seems that the problem here is not actually with Mailman, as I can post to lists as long as I'm not in the building. I think I have to configure my main mail server, since in-house PCs deliver all their m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Where's my mail?

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >I sent mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a few minutes ago, but it hasn't >appeared on the list, it's not in the archives, and I haven't gotten any >error messages, either. And I've tried mailq | grep suntalk, but it returns >null. How should I troubleshoot this problem? Check the

Re: [Mailman-Users] help file

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I've read in the Mailman FAQ that there is a help file that you can retrieve >by requesting through email. Does this have to be set up separately? I've >sent mail to the request address, with help in the subject line, but I do >not receive any mail with the help inst

Re: [Mailman-Users] current moderator in a perl command

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Is there a way to retrieve the current moderator through a perl command? If the perl script has permission to execute bin/* scripts, it could parse the output from bin/config_list or use bin/list_owners. The latter with the -m option will list owners and moderators for

[Mailman-Users] Error when accessing Mailman CGI web interface

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
Hi everyone, I'm trying to install a fresh copy of mailman 2.1.6 on a FC3 machine with SELinux disabled, and running into a problem trying to access the web interface. My configure statement looks like this: ./configure \ --prefix=/home/mailman/domains/chuckie.co.uk \ --with-usern

[Mailman-Users] current moderator in a perl command

2005-12-20 Thread smielke
Is there a way to retrieve the current moderator through a perl command? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable

[Mailman-Users] help file

2005-12-20 Thread smielke
I've read in the Mailman FAQ that there is a help file that you can retrieve by requesting through email. Does this have to be set up separately? I've sent mail to the request address, with help in the subject line, but I do not receive any mail with the help instructions in them. Did I misu

[Mailman-Users] Where's my mail?

2005-12-20 Thread Ben Ostrowsky
I sent mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a few minutes ago, but it hasn't appeared on the list, it's not in the archives, and I haven't gotten any error messages, either. And I've tried mailq | grep suntalk, but it returns null. How should I troubleshoot this problem? Ben -