Re: [Mailman-Users] Photos from Macs getting removed by list server

On 01/22/2018 06:58 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > Lynx? If you mean some kind of customisation, I doubt there's any. I mean the default conversion from HTML to plain text is done by the command /usr/bin/lynx -dump %(filename)s On all the mailman 2.1 installations that I manage, this is changed to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Photos from Macs getting removed by list server

Lynx? If you mean some kind of customisation, I doubt there's any. Peter Shute > -Original Message- > From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users- > bounces+pshute=nuw.org...@python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro > Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2018 1:21 PM > To: mailman-users@python.org >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Photos from Macs getting removed by list server

I agree about html email, but it was always an uphill battle with Outlook being set to html format by default. With iPhones/iPads, there seems to not even be a choice. They seem to create plain text unless you add a photo, then they revert to html. Our list needs to allow photos, so we just

Re: [Mailman-Users] Photos from Macs getting removed by list server

On Tue, 2018-01-23 at 02:10 +, Peter Shute wrote: > Thanks for all that. I googled collapse_alternatives, and I can see > from the colour of some of the results that I've looked this up > before. > > Given that Mac and (particularly) iPhone/iPad users are common, we > probably don't have an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Photos from Macs getting removed by list server

On 01/22/2018 06:10 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > > What happens if we just change collapse_alternatives to No? You can try that first. It will make a noticeable difference, but the result may still not be what you want depending on what 'lynx' or whatever you may have changed

Re: [Mailman-Users] Photos from Macs getting removed by list server

Thanks for all that. I googled collapse_alternatives, and I can see from the colour of some of the results that I've looked this up before. Given that Mac and (particularly) iPhone/iPad users are common, we probably don't have an unusual problem. Maybe I should just ask the list owner to try

Re: [Mailman-Users] Photos from Macs getting removed by list server

On 01/22/2018 01:33 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > > Perhaps I've used the wrong terminology. I mean that > convert_html_to_plaintext is set to Yes. OK > I've attached a screenshot of the content filtering page. Does that tell you > everything you need to know? (Assuming it'll be allowed through.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Photos from Macs getting removed by list server

Mark Sapiro wrote: > > If the list is plain-text only, I'd be more curious how images were > > making their way through, not the reverse. > > Exactly! Perhaps I've used the wrong terminology. I mean that convert_html_to_plaintext is set to Yes. > In order to say more, we'd need to see all the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/22/2018 04:55 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Its worse than that: what about people who intentionally set the Reply > To header on *non-mailing list* emails? Then you won't get the "reply list" option in the first place. In the basic reply-to case, the mailer *should* -- as defined by

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/22/2018 03:55 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Its worse than that: what about people who intentionally set the Reply To header on non-mailing list emails? I believe the new behavior is only triggered when the Reply-To: and List-Post: headers match. I guess that might be a problem if the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:41:28AM -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 01/22/2018 11:20 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > > > > So, I think Thunderbird's new default is going to cause messages to go > > back to the author, ignoring the Reply-To. > > That's correct. > > > I can see how this

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/22/2018 12:10 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Wow.  How could the Thunderbird developers even fathom to introduce an > RFC compliant dictated behavior /without/ giving an option to revert. There is a long history behind this and I agree that T'bird has not always made good

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/22/2018 12:41 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: That's correct. *chuckle* I guess this is one time when munging the From for DMARC reasons may help ensure that messages do go back to the list. The T'bird developers view is that in these cases, you are offered a "Reply List" button and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/22/2018 11:20 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > > So, I think Thunderbird's new default is going to cause messages to go > back to the author, ignoring the Reply-To. That's correct. > I can see how this could be annoying as a message author who wants > messages to be directed

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/22/2018 12:17 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: My bad. I was confused. In my answer above, "False" should be "True" and vice versa. ;-) -- Grant. . . . unix || die -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/22/2018 10:37 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: With the default mail.override_list_reply_to = False, for a message with a List-Post: header and with the list posting address also in a Reply-To: header, T'bird will ignore the Reply-To: header and address a "Reply" to the From: address. Setting

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/22/2018 10:58 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > On 01/22/2018 10:37 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> With the default mail.override_list_reply_to = False, for a message >> with a List-Post: header and with the list posting address also in a >> Reply-To: header, T'bird will ignore the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 22/01/18 18:24, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: Will someone please enlighten me on how mail.override_list_reply_to behaves when set to true (the default) vs false? If set to TRUE (the default value) replies will go directly to the sender of the message. If set to FALSE, replies

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/22/2018 10:37 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: With the default mail.override_list_reply_to = False, for a message with a List-Post: header and with the list posting address also in a Reply-To: header, T'bird will ignore the Reply-To: header and address a "Reply" to the From: address. Setting

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/22/2018 09:24 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Will someone please enlighten me on how mail.override_list_reply_to > behaves when set to true (the default) vs false? With the default mail.override_list_reply_to = False, for a message with a List-Post: header and with the list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/20/2018 12:05 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: What actually happens with "reply" depends on a few things. If the mail client involved is Thunderbird, it doesn't behave as expected. See . In short, in recent T'bird if the message has a

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman not creating archives

On 01/22/2018 05:12 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: > Hi, > > I have here a mailman installation on debian/stable. > Everything works fine, beside mailman not creating archives, > for none of the mailinglists. Have you set ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX in mm_cfg.py (or changed it in Defaults.py) or possibly set

[Mailman-Users] mailman not creating archives

Hi, I have here a mailman installation on debian/stable. Everything works fine, beside mailman not creating archives, for none of the mailinglists. I am pretty sure it's just a form of PEBCAK and I forgot to set a flag somewhere, but I cannot find it. The mailinglist config looks as follows:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 01/22/2018 04:01 AM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Apart from Thunderbird, are there other email apps which cause this issue? Thunderbird is the only MUA I'm aware of that does this. Their theory is since they offer a "Reply List" button, if you "Reply" you must want to reply to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Photos from Macs getting removed by list server

On 01/21/2018 11:52 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > If you have access to the host or perhaps through the web interface to > the archives, you can get the "mbox" files. This is typically in > /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/LIST.mbox/LIST.mbox, where LIST is > the mailbox name (the posting

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

On 20/01/18 20:05, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 01/20/2018 10:18 AM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote: I'm a little confused about the "reply-to" setting as I was pretty sure I had set my list up so that all replies by default go back to the list, but for some reason a reply goes directly to the sender.