any method (that I know of) for making
lists by invitation only. You can require approval from the
Moderator(s) or List Owner(s), but as you observed that's not the
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an invitation being sent -- invitations should only be sent as a
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That is a subtle difference, and so far as I know this is not one
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that it would all keep working correctly.
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for is Full Personalization.
Similarly, there are some email clients that change the From to
say list-bounces on behalf of sender address, how can I have the
list simply put the sender's address and not have this on behalf of?
That's a Microsoft problem. We can't fix that. See FAQ 2.3.
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patches, and the documentation is included there. Search the
archives for details.
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the postfix-users list. You'd have to talk to Wietse or
the other appropriate people over there.
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, and the archives of the
list.
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Then you may not be able to do any of the above. See FAQ 6.11.
In all likelihood, all your support requests are going to have to be
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, or a problem with the syslog program that postfix is sending
the log data to, etc
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On 5/1/07, Me Myself wrote:
Is there a way to transfer list archives from one server to another without
needing root access?
Not unless there are even more features that cPanel has added and
which we do not know about.
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not done, or perhaps were done
differently, and you need to talk to the people who installed it for
you.
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that you need to
talk to, based on what I could understand of your situation with your
servers and who installed what, etc
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On 5/2/07, Tim Tyler wrote:
Is it possible to send html content through a mailman list? If so, how?
See FAQs 3.37 and 4.39, although the FAQs at 3.18 and 3.40 may also be useful.
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on input, and continuing to operate as close to
normal as possible even though there may be some messages which don't
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, but nothing
that I know of for 2.1.x. You could always use a different archiver,
such as mhonarc -- the details on how to do this should be covered in
the documentation and the FAQ Wizard.
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this unusual address.
There's definitely some bugs in the code to handle the whitelist
addresses. I need to file my own bug report on this subject on
SourceForge, and I would encourage you to do the same.
Maybe then we could get Tokio or Mark to actually find fix this one. ;)
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Other than doing a dumpdb of all the lists and doing some visual
searching, I'm not sure that I've got an easy answer for you.
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, and are planning on fixing this in
upcoming versions. However, we do not otherwise have a whole lot of
details as to what will be going on when.
If you have specific requirements, I would urge you to join the
discussions on this topic in the Mailman Wiki pages.
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is sending out the notices. Talk
to your service provider to find out for sure.
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do.
Also, the FAQ 3.40/3.18/3.37 set of articles is another good one to
look at, when it comes to making customizations to Mailman, and the
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responded. See
the other messages in that thread.
If there is anything that you are confused about, please let us know
specifically which parts are confusing, and we'll try to explain.
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interface.
Now, if these phones/PDAs are doing SMS messages that have been
gatewayed from Internet e-mail, then you're talking about a problem
with the gateway system, and there may not be a whole lot we can do
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FAQ 4.51 for the details.
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dependant on the rest of the cPanel/Mailman
community to help pitch in here, because the assistance we can
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to the
project) would agree. However, who's actually going to write the
code to do this? When is that going to be incorporated into the
mainstream codebase, and for which version?
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back to the community.
You should also check the SourceForge patches page to see if anyone
else has made this kind of a modification, and contributed their
changes back to the Mailman project, although they may not have (yet)
been accepted into the mainstream codebase.
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patch page to see if anyone else has
already added that feature and contributed their code back to the
community, but which has not (yet) been accepted into the main
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say so. I'm sure that
Barry and others will be relieved to know that someone else is taking
care of this issue.
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tried to follow, and we'll see if there's anything else we can
do for you.
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this stuff incorporated into the 2.3 tree (see
http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/2006/08/20/Summer+of+Code+summary).
I don't see any other obvious mentions of CSS or templating for 2.x,
but maybe I've missed something.
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to suit.
If you have any more information to add to that FAQ entry, please
feel free to make your own contribution (using the instructions
provided in the FAQ Wizard itself) and let us know.
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of dollars per year, and maybe you
can get a good professional author to spend their entire life to make
the FAQ a world-class document, the equal to which cannot be found
anywhere else in the world.
Otherwise, this is the kind of thing you can expect to get.
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jargon here but I thought there was a way to control how fast emails are
passed to an MTA.
See FAQ 4.51.
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, you always want to work from the original
raw mbox format files. That way you minimize the amount of
information that might accidentally be lost.
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At 5:01 AM -0700 4/19/07, David Southwell wrote:
Is there a mailman command that dumps the current running configuration
options?
Did you search the FAQ Wizard or the documentation? Did you see FAQ 4.9?
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they behave as 34.
6. After logout state 5 is again applicable.
Hmm. This sounds like it might be related to the kinds of problems
discussed in FAQ 4.45, 4.65, and 4.71, although I may be wrong. You
should at least check them out and follow the relevant links that are
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cursory search of the mailman-users archives, they should still be
inserted into the FAQ.)
So far as I know, the FAQ is pretty complete on this topic. If
there's anything missing, please let us know.
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no idea why
incoming mail would just be sitting in the queue and not being
processed.
Maybe Mark Sapiro or Tokio Kikuchi can help.
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to the bottom of this?
That's as far as I can go. Maybe Mark or Tokio will have more luck.
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shouldn't be able to see, and you risk legitimate access being
inappropriately denied.
This is not a given in NFS server environments.
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that I would
call well-managed. Some were not as badly managed as others, but
they all had major problems.
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as I know, Plesk doesn't make any source-code level
modifications to the Python and Mailman code that they ship as part
of their product. They just tend to be horribly, horribly
out-of-date, and it's very difficult to bring things up-to-date and
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. Please consider that step carefully.
Inded, Kalin -- be very, very careful.
I'm sorely tempted to submit you to some blacklists myself, and I
know that I'm not the most violently aggressive anti-spammer around.
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At 4:56 PM -0400 4/15/07, Michael Kabot wrote:
I am not fluent in Qmail. Finally found the logs for Qmail which was not in
the /var/log location, but rather deep under a Plesk directory.
Ahh. Plesk. See FAQ 6.15.
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know, we don't have a
lot of Plesk users on the list, although we do get questions related
to Mailman under Plesk. Since we don't have or use Plesk ourselves,
it's difficult for us to help debug some of those problems.
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as well as a mailman-plesk-users list.
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. Right?
Also correct. But we need something in our FAQ to identify what the
real problem is and what the appropriate admins will have to do,
because Mailman administrators will certainly be affected by this
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filter -- because there wouldn't have been any outbound
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was that
this sort of transformation should always be done, and on all hosts
that would be touching the message. So, even if you didn't do it,
the machine downstream should.
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to rewrite. The
question is which headers should the MTA be rewriting?
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try to get back to it myself, later, but I won't
cry if somebody beats me to it.wink
Please, feel free to take a whack at it.
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from RFC 2822 that would
be applicable to the case of the From: header.
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At 9:27 PM -0500 4/10/07, Brad Knowles wrote:
The important sentence here is:
| In the dot-atom form, this is interpreted as an Internet
| domain name (either a host name or a mail exchanger name) as
| described in [STD3, STD13, STD14].
In particular, note
according to the RFCs on
this subject.
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data from the
original request, convert it to a GET and redirect to that.
Can anybody show me how to configure that ?
You don't. You eliminate the redirect instead.
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on the server?
This is an IMAP question, and has nothing to do with Mailman.
Find out what IMAP software you're using on the client or the server,
and that should give you a clue as to what other FAQs, documentation,
mailing list archives, etc... that you can use to try to obtain
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in the handling of charsets in the mail package within Python
or within Python itself, then that's a deeper problem than Mailman.
In that case, we can try to find a way to work around it better than
we've done in the past, but I'm not sure we can actually fix it.
Tokio?
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posts before they go through.
But there's no per-topic control over this sort of thing. At least,
not without making source-code modifications.
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being lazy by
asking...) - what is the best mechanism of backing up a complete MailMan
installation?
Yup, that's in the FAQ.
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would ask that
people update the FAQ Wizard and the wiki pages that are linked, so
that we don't have to continually refer back to the archives of this
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. Start with FAQs 1.26
and the related FAQ entries which are cross-linked. The search the
archives of this list, in accordance with FAQ 1.18.
When you're done with that, read FAQs 1.22 and 1.23.
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are unique.
See FAQ 4.47, and then see FAQs 1.22 and 1.23.
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of interfaces
for postfix to listen on.
I guess I could maybe change the
outbound mailhost somewhere in Mailman's config could I to see if
that gets round it for now?
That could also work.
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a template for it. It gets
generated by the source code, although I don't know exactly which
piece of source code you should be looking at.
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, and let Mailman
generate that for you. Sendmail actually has better automatic
generation tools than postfix, so for postfix we end up re-using the
same trick from sendmail.
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At 11:54 PM -0400 3/26/07, Will Nordmeyer wrote:
Any other suggestions - I've got a client who needs to get an email out to
the list asap.
Did you check your firewall settings, to make sure that connections
to port 25 on the localhost IP address would be accepted?
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downloading the binary
package. If you're going to install from source, it might take a few
more minutes.
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answer is FAQ 3.48.
I shall not further flagellate this deceased equine.
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of the bounces being generated, we
might be able to help you figure out what's going wrong and what
might be able to be done to fix it.
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use SPF. Don't use it anywhere. It causes way more problems
than it can possibly solve. Everything I said back in 2004 on this
subject is still applicable today, if not more so. See
http://bradknowles.typepad.com/considered_harmful/2004/05/spf.html.
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messages marked /Defer/, and then click the button that says
Submit All Data. You're done.
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, that says volumes about the crappy quality of
service they provide.
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on this VPS for an extra $10 a month. I'll probably
test that out and see how well it works.
Search the Mailm FAQ Wizard for performance. But pay special
attention to FAQ 1.24.
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, that's not good...
I think Mark probably has a better handle on what you're talking
about, so ignore everything I've said and pay attention to him
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on this subject back in 1995.
The problem is that while IDENT can be useful in some cases, the
risks and costs of IDENT on the modern Internet is so high that it's
not worth the effort.
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. Trust me,
it's far, far better than the old reminders.
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on some increased parallelism in the
delivery process, so that other recipients can be handled while
you're waiting on the slower sites to respond.
But I wouldn't feel bad at getting everything out in 30 seconds.
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Anybody who can confirm this for Postfix, Exim, etc.?
All MTAs I know of make intensive use of the DNS -- sendmail,
postfix, Exim, etc
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and send it to you by e-mail.
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will always lie to you, and therefore you can't trust
anything they send you.
At the very least, if you're going to use it, make sure you only use
it on your local network of machines that you control. On those
machines, you could use a lower timeout, such as ten or fifteen
seconds.
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in that technique these days.
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At 1:04 AM -0600 3/9/07, Brad Knowles quoted Herman Privyhum:
http://xrl.us/u8pf (Link to www.exim.org)
So Phil says that he runs a trustworthy IDENT server on his box.
BTW, that article is eight years old now. Eight years in real time
is over five Internet generations. We were still
, and damned if you don't. That's
just the nature of this business. But you should at least have some
sort of idea of what you're getting yourself into.
I hope I'm not asking something naive!
Sadly enough, no.
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through my ISP, but I'd
like to handle everyone else myself.
All postfix routing solutions can be determined via tables and maps,
so you should be able to do that. Just create a suitable map.
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