[Mailman-Users] Re: Member posting to a list but address not in membership list.

Could you have included them in "accept_these_nonmembers" in "Sender filters" under "Privacy options..."? -Chip- On 1/11/2022 11:29 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 1/11/22 7:51 PM, Adam Morris wrote: I have someone who is posting to a list I run. I subscribed them originally but their address doesn

[Mailman-Users] Re: Problem with the Approved message confirmation

This happens regularly on the lists that I administer, usually as a result of a well-meaning subscriber 'cc:'ing a non-subscriber, who then replies back to both the subscriber and the list. Since I have to deal with the moderated message anyway, I simply send the non-subscriber a short note ex

[Mailman-Users] Re: Need to add two addresses to a bunch of lists as allowed senders.

I used to allow 'accept_these_nonmembers' for discussion list members who just couldn't seem to remember their subscription address.  This was true even when replying to a post due to forwards they had set up. Then we reached the point that most of the members had multiple addresses and a majo

[Mailman-Users] Re: Newbie question - installing on GoDaddy?

Vicki, there are a lot of moving parts to installing Mailman on a website, so I'm afraid you'll get more answer than you had question. ;-/ GoDaddy's least-expensive "web hosting " plan includes CPanel which, on many web-hosting vendors, provides a "

[Mailman-Users] Re: Removal of Line Breaks in Replies to Digest Messages

As regards thread hijacking, there is an IETF 'In-Reply-To:' header that keeps track of that, regardless the string in the 'Subject:' header.  Without that, creating a threaded email display would be a nightmare.  This is one of the most constant (r

[Mailman-Users] Re: Help with Topics

Thank you, Gentlemen! That was quite enlightening and _very_ helpful. I'm very grateful for your extensive explanations and examples and am going to give Topics a try and see if the subscribers take to them. -Chip- On 10/13/2020 5:51 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 10/13/20 1:56 PM, Chip

[Mailman-Users] Re: Help with Topics

besides here. Thanks! -Chip- On 10/13/2020 3:57 PM, Richard Damon wrote: I create one topic that I request everyone using topic to select for important administrative messages from the moderator of the list. That gives them something to select if they don't want any of the normal topics.

[Mailman-Users] Help with Topics

I'm trying to set up Topics for a Mailman 2.1.33 list I administer, and I'm a tad confused. There appears to be no combination of options to allow a member of a list to see _only_ non-topic-specific postings. If you select one or more topics of interest, you will receive the postings under t

[Mailman-Users] Help with Topics

[Re-sent after not getting my copy back from the listserver after five hours.] I'm trying to set up Topics for a Mailman 2.1.33 list I administer, and I'm a tad confused. There appears to be no combination of options to allow a member of a list to see _only_ non-topic-specific postings. If

[Mailman-Users] Re: Reply-To: Poster via archive?

... and, one hopes, elides the irrelevant archive postings.  [Sorry, one of my eldest crotchets.] -Chip- On 9/23/2020 2:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: If the user wants to reply to the poster in this way, she needs to edit the recipients when composing the mail. I recognize this is inconvenient, bu

[Mailman-Users] Re: extracting a lists's setting to move the list to a new domain

As a lowly list admin with a number of cPanel-hosted Mailman2 lists, I cannot avail myself of such tools without opening a ticket with my ISP.  While they have been very responsive in the past, I don't feel that's a generosity of which I should frequently avail myself. Also, I wanted to have a

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

If only this were a meeting conducted under Robert's Rules, the Chair would have invoked cloture, or at least referred this issue back to committee.  All interested parties have made their arguments, positions have hardened, and debate has become unrevealing. Insofar as anything ever dies on t

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

t, the odds are I'll never need a "New! Improved!" MM2, or MM3. -Chip- On 9/13/2020 6:00 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 9/13/20 12:39 PM, Chip Davis wrote: Speaking as _a_ user, my requirements are simple:   1.  MM2 must continue to work,   2.  support must continue to be provid

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

I am loathe, as a lowly list administrator (on cPanel hosts, at that) to participate in the clash of titans,  but this _is_ the "mailman-users" discussion list.  It is somewhat distressing to see so little participation by the Mailman2 users, who will be most affected by any changes in its supp

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

l of piss and vinegar. But on reflection, clearly nobody is reading what I wrote earlier, so let's try pithy and dry. It's still long. :-( Chip Davis writes: > OK guys, what's really going on here? I don't know. I can tell you I'm done with Jim. You&#x

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

OK guys, what's really going on here? Stephen and Mark, you are both thoughtful writers and crucial members of the Mailman team.  Jim, you have made a generous offer that seems to have the support of the Mailman 2 user community, at least. Is this about turf?  Is there something about Jim's p

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

help support the MM2 community, in which you stridently attempted to convince us to convert over to MM3 instead. Respectfully, we decline. -Chip- On 8/26/2020 11:17 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: On 8/26/20 10:29 PM, Chip Davis wrote: What I don't understand is your vitriolic objection to Ji

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

Bottom Line: As long as there are inexpensive cPanel hosts running Mailman 2, *I have no choice*.   So I greatly appreciate Jim's offer to pick up the burden and allow Mark to move on. -Chip- "I shoot dumps for fun. They are the ultimate Sudoku." On 8/26/2020 5:05 PM, Brian Carpen

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

I'm afraid I disagree. All of my dozen Mailman instances run on shared servers.  I have no control over the release/distro on which I am hosted.  But my providers have a bazillion (est.) customers running Mailman2 and, for a number of reasons, are not terribly eager to force us all to convert

[Mailman-Users] Minor nit needs correction/explanation

Under Privacy Options -> Recipient filters -> max_num_recipients, the Details say: "*max_num_recipients* (privacy): Ceiling on acceptable number of recipients for a posting. If a posting has this number, or more, of recipients, it is held for admin approval. Use 0 for no ceiling." OK, whic

Re: [Mailman-Users] send_reminders frequency

I administer around a dozen (mostly v2.1) Mailman lists, but they are all on shared servers running cPanel or some equivalent "we won't let you get your hands dirty" interface.  Not by my choice, and with wildly varying support from the server vendors. I often see questions about how to do som

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

I wish. All my listservers are on various shared hosts running cPanel. An experience not unlike making love in haz-mat suits... :-/ -Chip- On 6/2/2019 11:17 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 6/2/19 7:49 AM, Chip Davis wrote: Thanks to Mark's help crafting the proper RE, I haven't ha

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

solution for all of my lists, I'm looking into his suggestion of using a Spam Filter that triggers on the SpamAssassin score header inserted by my ISP. Thanks, Mark for you patience and help. -Chip- On 6/1/2019 3:42 PM, Phil Stracchino wrote: On 6/1/19 1:44 PM, Chip Davis wrote: I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

I guess my question wasn't so "easy" after all ... :-( What was a daily trickle is now a flood of UCE from different domains in the .icu TLD. I hope someone can suggest some sort of prophylaxis that I haven't tried. Is it possible that 'general_nonmember_action = Hold' is overriding my Spa

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

ds are, it was my imperfect RE that was keeping if from tripping. Thanks All, -Chip- On 5/31/2019 10:11 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 5/30/19 9:20 PM, Chip Davis wrote: About 12 hours after I put that RE in place, I got another one from a different domain in '.icu'.  It was held for mode

Re: [Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

from: .*@.*\.icu" in header_filter_rules and see if that makes any difference. Any other ideas? -Chip- On 5/30/2019 7:03 PM, Robert Heller wrote: At Thu, 30 May 2019 11:57:44 -0400 Chip Davis wrote: I've supported a dozen Mailman listservers for over a dozen years. This doesn&#x

[Mailman-Users] Easy question for this crowd

27;ve been gifted with an inordinate amount of UCE from many different domains under the '.icu' TLD. Since Python RE's are _almost_ the same as the UNIX RE's I used many years ago, if I put ^@.*\.icu$ in discard_these_nonmembers, will it block all domains in that TLD? And

Re: [Mailman-Users] held messages not visible in web interface

When this has happened to me, it was because the poster removed the post on his own. When a post is held for moderation, the sender gets a note to that effect which includes a URL where they can go to cancel the held post. At least, that's the way my Mailman instances work. YMMV, of course.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic subscription based on e-mail subject

On 2/1/2019 3:30 AM, R. Diez via Mailman-Users wrote: This is becoming tiresome... Indeed. Except I'd substitute the second-person pronoun for the third... Mailman has a long page with settings like digest mode, stop delivery (holiday mode), and many, many more. Other communication platform

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

em, and may actually get a few. (Most will still go back to the list because it's sooo much trouble to change the "To:" header.) These are folks who constantly hijack threads because they always start a new topic by hitting 'Reply' to whatever posting they just received..

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working

I am loathe to weigh in on this architectural design discussion, but it seems to ignore the PEBCAK effect. I admin about a dozen _discussion_ Mailman lists as a mitzvah for various organizations I'm fond of, none of which are well-populated with computer scientists. Exhibit A is the number of

Re: [Mailman-Users] change links in mail footer to https

-Chip- On 12/9/2017 2:06 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 12/09/2017 10:40 AM, Chip Davis wrote: That's all well and good Mark, but surely you know that any fix that involves issuing a shell command is useless for those of us responsible for lists on a shared server running cPanel (or equivalent).

Re: [Mailman-Users] change links in mail footer to https

That's all well and good Mark, but surely you know that any fix that involves issuing a shell command is useless for those of us responsible for lists on a shared server running cPanel (or equivalent). Is there a procedure that we can implement, or are we just SOL? Has anyone had any success f

Re: [Mailman-Users] Replying to the List

On 12/7/2017 2:29 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 12/07/2017 09:15 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote: Short version for free: Edit /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py and add the following line anywhere AFTER 'from Defaults import *': DEFAULT_REPLY_GOES_TO_LIST = 1 It is not necessary and probably not effective in t

Re: [Mailman-Users] cause of bounces

On 10/10/2017 6:20 PM, p...@tokyoprogressive.org wrote: Thank you, Mark. Had to resend this as I forgot to remove the quotes in the first attempt. Re it being a DMARC issue, all the options look bad (except telling people to use another email provider). Which is exactly what I do with the d

Re: [Mailman-Users] list sponsorships

ast 50% off for charitable 503(c) and other 'public service' type groups. It more depended on the resources they required and the amount of hand holding. On 5/15/17 3:13 PM, Chip Davis wrote: All of the Mailman lists I host/admin are provided free of charge, as a value-add to the memb

Re: [Mailman-Users] list sponsorships

All of the Mailman lists I host/admin are provided free of charge, as a value-add to the members of various non-profit groups. Insofar as the actual costs of providing a discussion or announcement list are hard to tease out, the best I could do would be to apportion the total costs of the serv