[Mailman-Users] Crons don't run (Mailman Htdig)
Hi! Recently I have installed Mailman 2.0.8 on my SuSE box. I patched Mailman with the patches which enable integration with Htdig (thank you Richard for your help!) to have searchable archives. Two list are created (test test2) for testing on my localhost. Posting, searching .. everything is fine except that my crons for rebuilding archives don't work. I installed crontab.in as: crontab -u mailman cronatab.in and there is mailman file in my /var/spool/cron/tabs. There is no mailman user in /var/spool/cron/deny, and I even put mailman in /var/spool/cron/allow, but still - nothing. What can be wrong? Any idea? Sincerely, Sasa -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] cookies
I havn't tried MM 2.05 but 2.06 was still working. Since 2.07 it doesn't work. Other people reporting the same: http://bugs.kde.org/db/36/36524.html http://bugs.kde.org/db/35/35153.html On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 07:54:41AM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: Around 9 o'clock on Feb 1, Oliver Egginger wrote: if MM-version 2.06 and browser is konqueror then MM don't will work with passwords. For some reason, konqueror sends back cookies with marks around them. But this should mean that konqueror somehow works with mailman 2.05, right? (I have a konqueror user complaining that it's not working either) Marc -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Sendmail on Solaris 8
Sendmail in Solaris 8 uses smrsh to check mail wrappers. The problem is that it needs the wrapper (or a link to) to be in /var/adm/sm.bin. Mailman 2.0.7 provides a directory mail (under EXEC_PREFIX) to tell were to find this wrapper. The problem is that Sendmail doesn't like that and insist to use only what is in /var/adm/sm.bin. I would like not to have to modify the lines printed by newlist to match /var/adm/sm.bin/wrapper instead of /usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper I can only (rather badly, I think) replace the line in mm_cfg.py: WRAPPER_DIR = os.path.join(EXEC_PREFIX, 'mail') with WRAPPER_DIR = '/var/adm/sm.bin' Maybe am I wrong? Is there a better way to do this? Wouldn't it be possible to make it better in Mailman 2.0.8 or 2.1? -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Bounces from Hotmail
Dear Mailman people - I have managed to setup mailman and am very pleased (after operating an old Majordomo list server for years). On thing I do much appreciate is the option to detect bounces and take action accordingly. Unfortunately it seems that the majority of bounces that I receive pass through the filter. They are the 'mailbox full' messages from Hotmail users. I receive many of those and would like Mailman to set the 'nomail' option for as soon as possible. Does anyone have a proper solution for that available? I would be much helped! Thanks all. -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Crons don't run (Mailman Htdig)
At 10:20 04/02/2002 +0100, you wrote: Hi! Recently I have installed Mailman 2.0.8 on my SuSE box. I patched Mailman with the patches which enable integration with Htdig (thank you Richard for your help!) to have searchable archives. Two list are created (test test2) for testing on my localhost. Posting, searching .. everything is fine except that my crons for rebuilding archives don't work. If searching of your lists is working from the list TOC page (the form added by the Mailman-htdig integration patch) how were the search indexes built if cron did not run nightly_htdig script. Did you run it nightly_htdig by hand from the command line or what. I installed crontab.in as: crontab -u mailman cronatab.in and there is mailman file in my /var/spool/cron/tabs. what do you get out when you enter the following command (as root)? crontab -u mailman -l does the crontab contain a line that looks like this? 19 2 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_htdig are the zipped versions of the list archives being updated by the following crontab entry? 27 3 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip There is no mailman user in /var/spool/cron/deny, and I even put mailman in /var/spool/cron/allow, but still - nothing. What can be wrong? Any idea? Sincerely, Sasa -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Crons don't run (Mailman Htdig)
I have been installing Mailman on Debian. I have noticed that the package does not use a user.group 'mailman', but has user 'list'. You might want to 'grep' your /etc/passwd to check. Regards. -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Apache Alias
I am making the assumption that you are not versed in Apache. the current apache server software uses only the httpd.conf file. Older versions have three files: srm.conf, access.conf and httpd.conf. I run apache 1.3.14 and it still has the three files broken out, so I am assuming that is how yours is. Either way, the directive is in the httpd.conf file edit this files and look for a line something like this: # Aliases: Add here as many aliases as you need (with no limit). The format is # Alias fakename realname The directive below allows you to alias the directories, in mine I have this for pipermail Alias /pipermail/ /opt/mailman/archives/public/ Directory /opt/mailman/archives/public/ Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory The directory directive defines how the access to the directory. Look at the manual for a more indepth explaination. Below this you should also find a ScriptAlias directive. This is how you alias your script directory Mine looks like this: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /opt/mailman/cgi-bin/ Directory /opt/mailman/cgi-bin AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory If you have any more questions let me know Erik van der Meulen wrote: Dear List - this is a RTFM I know, but in case of Apache the FM is hudge, so I hope somebody can pull this right out of the hat... My Mailman (1.1) documentation reads: Configure your Web server to point to the Pipermail public mailing list archives: For example, in Apache: Alias /pipermail/ $prefix/archives/public/ My question is: in what file does this go, and where exactly? I have access.conf and httpd.conf Other thing is that I would like to alias the name: www.myhost.nl/cgi-bin/mailman to something a little easier like www.myhost.nl/mailman. Again, I would like to know how to do this in Apache. Thanks a lot, best regards. -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Scott D Anderson Don't tell me I'm burning the Collective candle at both ends-- Consultant tell me where to get more wax!! Work: (703) 734 5238 Pager: (888) 858-7243 x 105189 E-mail sda (at) colltech.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Crons don't run (Mailman Htdig)
On Today, -, Richard Barrett wrote: If searching of your lists is working from the list TOC page (the form added by the Mailman-htdig integration patch) how were the search indexes built if cron did not run nightly_htdig script. Did you run it nightly_htdig by hand from the command line or what. Yes, I run it from the command line. what do you get out when you enter the following command (as root)? crontab -u mailman -l I get listing of croantab.in file. does the crontab contain a line that looks like this? 19 2 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_htdig Yet, I just changed the time to 30 10 .. are the zipped versions of the list archives being updated by the following crontab entry? 27 3 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip In Defaults.py I have GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES = 0, but now I see that in crontab.in it is stated that it should be defined in mm_cfg.py. Is this a problem? Now, I just checked and see that the crontab file which was installed today at 10AM, run at 10:30AM as specified in it. However, only public archives is re-indexed, while private is not. But, it's one step closer :-) What to check next? Sincerely, Sasa -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Crons don't run (Mailman Htdig)
At 15:39 04/02/2002 +0100, you wrote: On Today, -, Richard Barrett wrote: If searching of your lists is working from the list TOC page (the form added by the Mailman-htdig integration patch) how were the search indexes built if cron did not run nightly_htdig script. Did you run it nightly_htdig by hand from the command line or what. Yes, I run it from the command line. what do you get out when you enter the following command (as root)? crontab -u mailman -l I get listing of croantab.in file. does the crontab contain a line that looks like this? 19 2 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_htdig Yet, I just changed the time to 30 10 .. are the zipped versions of the list archives being updated by the following crontab entry? 27 3 * * * /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip In Defaults.py I have GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES = 0, but now I see that in crontab.in it is stated that it should be defined in mm_cfg.py. Is this a problem? Now, I just checked and see that the crontab file which was installed today at 10AM, run at 10:30AM as specified in it. However, only public archives is re-indexed, while private is not. But, it's one step closer :-) In fact think that we are all the way there. There is no real distinction between private and public archives when it comes to the way the script nightly_htdig works to build the htdig indexes, although the distinction is made when it comes to subsequently accessing those search indexes via the list's search form. The mailman-htdig integration builds and maintains separate htdig index files for each list. These are in the directory $prefix/archives/private/listname/htdig for each list. When nightly_htdig runs it checks, for each list in turn, the time of the most recent post to the list. If that post was after the time it last ran rundig to construct the list's search index, it reruns rundig. Otherwise it doesn't and the modification date/time on the index files will not change. This is to avoid rebuilding indexes when there has not been changes in the indexed material since the last indexing operation. If you want to check what I have said then run nightly_htdig by hand with the -v flag. This will cause the script to output a line for each file saying it is skipping the list because there are no recent posts or it is htdig'ing the list archive if there are recent posts. If you run the script twice in quick succession, it usually doesn't do any htdig'ing the second time around. If you still think there is something wrong with all this then let me know What to check next? Sincerely, Sasa -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail on Solaris 8
Why can't you create a link to /usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper in /var/adm/sm.bin? Jerome Warnier wrote: Sendmail in Solaris 8 uses smrsh to check mail wrappers. The problem is that it needs the wrapper (or a link to) to be in /var/adm/sm.bin. Mailman 2.0.7 provides a directory mail (under EXEC_PREFIX) to tell were to find this wrapper. The problem is that Sendmail doesn't like that and insist to use only what is in /var/adm/sm.bin. I would like not to have to modify the lines printed by newlist to match /var/adm/sm.bin/wrapper instead of /usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper I can only (rather badly, I think) replace the line in mm_cfg.py: WRAPPER_DIR = os.path.join(EXEC_PREFIX, 'mail') with WRAPPER_DIR = '/var/adm/sm.bin' Maybe am I wrong? Is there a better way to do this? Wouldn't it be possible to make it better in Mailman 2.0.8 or 2.1? -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Scott D Anderson Don't tell me I'm burning the Collective candle at both ends-- Consultant tell me where to get more wax!! Work: (703) 734 5238 Pager: (888) 858-7243 x 105189 E-mail sda (at) colltech.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Setting up a 'read-only' list
Title: Setting up a 'read-only' list Hello I need to set up an 'announcement' type list I need to guarantee (if this is possible) that *only* the list admin can post Is there a standard way of doing this? I've flagged the list as moderated and restricted access to the admin pages to the local network (in the apache config) Is there a way to inject the messages directly into Mailman on the server? - In which case I considered removing the main list alias so any posts to it would bounce Any thoughts appreciated David ITN is endeavouring to ensure it receives mail electronically rather than by manual post. Please send any correspondence by e-mail. This email (and any attachments) is intended solely for the individual(s) to whom addressed. It may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. Any statement or opinions therein are not necessarily those of ITN unless specifically stated. Any unauthorised use, disclosure or copying is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system. Security and reliability of the e-mail and attachments are not guaranteed. You must take full responsibility for virus checking. Independent Television News Limited, Registered No. 548648 England, VAT Reg. No: GB 756 2995 81, 200 Gray's Inn Road, London WC1X 8XZ, Telephone: 0207 833 3000.
Re: [Mailman-Users] Crons don't run (Mailman Htdig)
On Today, -, Richard Barrett wrote: Hi Richard! In fact think that we are all the way there. There is no real distinction between private and public archives when it comes to the way the script nightly_htdig works to build the htdig indexes, although the distinction is made when it comes to subsequently accessing those search indexes via the list's search form. Yes, you're right. If you want to check what I have said then run nightly_htdig by hand with the -v flag. This will cause the script to output a line for each file saying it is skipping the list because there are no recent posts or it is htdig'ing the list archive if there are recent posts. If you run the script twice in quick succession, it usually doesn't do any htdig'ing the second time around. After sending one message to pirvate list and running by hand, the script run, but before it reproted that it skipped lists because there wer no new posts. Just another question: I put GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES = 0 in mm_cfg.py. Is something else neede to get gzipp-ed archives? Thank you very much for your help. Sincerely, Sasa -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] mailman and sendmail under RH 7.2
Title: mailman and sendmail under RH 7.2 Hi, This is more a sendmail than an mailman question, but here goes: I have a brand spanking new RH 7.2 server on which I set mailman up. All went well, except that when I try to register to the test mailing list, my server refuses connection. Ther confirmtion request is received by the external server (from which I try to subscribe). The mailq of the external server shows that the confirmation request reply is held due to connection refusal from the new mailman server. I am a bit new to RH 7.2 I usually install 6.2. Is there some sort of a new twist to make sendmail work under RH 7.2 ? Thanks MGL
[Mailman-Users] email database
Anyone know where the list databases are kept? I can't seem to find them. Basically I've got a postgres database full of addresses I'd like to populate some lists with, without having to send emails for each entry. If I could just write the mailman entries myself, I'd be a happy man. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Nick -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman and sendmail under RH 7.2
Lafleur Maurice wrote: I am a bit new to RH 7.2 I usually install 6.2. Is there some sort of a new twist to make sendmail work under RH 7.2 ? Yes, read the release notes. RH7.x has sendmail default to only listen on 127.0.0.1 (localhost), and refuse any other connection. You need to reconfigure your sendmail.cf to allow for external connections. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] email database
Nick Riemondi wrote: Anyone know where the list databases are kept? In the config.db file. You can use the tools in the bin directory for list member management: ./bin/add_members ./bin/remove_members ./bin/sync_members -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] hello Mailmen and Mailwomen
On 04/02/02 14:56 +1300, brenda and fred wrote: I was just checking out Mailman to see if its suitable for our organisation where can I get a look at the administrative interface (whithout installing it myself)? I have a demo at http://yourdomain.cis.to/mailman/admin/demo (this is the standard admin interface with some minimal modifications to make it accessible without password and to prevent website visitors from messing things up.) Greetings, Norbert. -- A founder of the http://DotGNU.org project and Steering Committee member Norbert Bollow, Weidlistr.18, CH-8624 Gruet (near Zurich, Switzerland) Tel +41 1 972 20 59 Fax +41 1 972 20 69 http://thinkcoach.com Your own domain with all your Mailman lists: $15/month http://cisto.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Admin stuff
In Utils.py lurks the list of admin*strivia phrases that cause mail to be held for m*deration. Can anyone tell me what the numbers bracketed after each administrivia phrase mean? They take the form of word: (0,0), TIA Robert -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounces from Hotmail
A typical way of handling this is either with a pre-processor for the mail (like procmail) or to add appropriate text to the Hold posts with header... (in the web-admin under the Privacy Options). Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailman User List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:16 AM Subject: [Mailman-Users] Bounces from Hotmail Dear Mailman people - I have managed to setup mailman and am very pleased (after operating an old Majordomo list server for years). On thing I do much appreciate is the option to detect bounces and take action accordingly. Unfortunately it seems that the majority of bounces that I receive pass through the filter. They are the 'mailbox full' messages from Hotmail users. I receive many of those and would like Mailman to set the 'nomail' option for as soon as possible. Does anyone have a proper solution for that available? I would be much helped! Thanks all. -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request
Sun, 2002-02-03 09:37:51 +0100 Matthias Jaenichen wrote: even if you use TEXT, but have nonstandard chars in the text/subject like äöü the archives become unreadable. I think the problem here is that the format it is stored in the archives is the only transportable one. If we strip html, the message might loose significant information, if we transform into something Windows-readable it might not readable by MACs or UNIX. Store the Unicode where a vast number of characters are standard. Windoze Macintosh can both handle it that I know. http://www.unicode.org Besides, if people want to use XML, it's needed. As to your question about encodings in a Subject:, there is provision for specifying encoding. Not all versions of all e-mail clients support them. plug Nisus Email does. /plug John G. Otto, Eagle Scout, Knight, Cybernetic Praxeologist Existence, Consciousness, Identity, Life, Liberty, Property, Privacy, Justice http://gosc.nisus.com/~giovanni -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounces from Hotmail
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 17:57:00 -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: A typical way of handling this is either with a pre-processor for the mail (like procmail) or to add appropriate text to the Hold posts with header... (in the web-admin under the Privacy Options). Thanks for that. I do use procmail and would be able to filter and ignore those message like that. It seems that the option 'Hold posts with header' does just do that too. I would have liked to use the bounce detect feature from Mailman (which adds to /var/log/mailman/bounces and shuts down user accounts automatically after a number of pre-specified bounces. I was hoping that I could adapt its detection mechanism in some way to catch those Hotmal 'mailbox full' messages, rather than just filtering 'm. I use Mailman 1.1, maybe those features are better in new releases? Best regards. -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
