Re: [Mailman-Users] List email pre-approval

2003-02-24 Thread JC Dill
On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 21:40, Steve Sterling wrote:

With Majordomo, you could pre-approve a message to the list, say
from an otherwise unsubscribed user or to a moderated list.
I tried with my mailman, but it treats the Approved: password
first line as normal message body. Somewhere, I remember seeing
that Mailman supports such things, but can't find any documentation
on syntax, etc.
Jon Carnes wrote:
Could this be the problem: When searching for an Approve/Approved
header, the first non-whitespace line of the body of the message is
also checked, if the body has a MIME type of text/plain.
Can your mailclient add the Approve line as a header?
I suspect the problem is due to sending the message with formatted text
(not MIME type text/plain) and *also* using the Approved line as the 
first line in the body of the message.  If you need for non-subscribers 
to be able to send formatted posts from a client that won't allow adding 
an Approved header, you can just specify approved posters.  The option
is found under Privacy Options, Sender Filters, at:

	~mailman/admin/listname/privacy/sender

Then any message from one of the approved email addresses will be sent
on without requiring further approval.
***Warning***

If an email virus which uses email addresses found on a victim's
computer manages to grab one of these approved addresses and use it as
the From and also coincidentally grabs your mailing list submission
address and uses it as the To, your list will accept the virus laden
email and distribute the virus to your whole list.  This coincidence is
not unlikely, since both addresses will be found together in the inbox
or address book of your subscribers.  One infected subscriber can then
infect your whole list.
(I have a friend who has a large newsletter list and who has been
repeatedly falsely accused of spreading viruses when a virus forged her 
list address as the From and then sent the virus *directly* to a list
subscriber (her subscribers also often know each other directly, thus
one subscriber who has the list address in her address book will also
have another subscriber's address in her address book too).  She is
sticking with the Approved header to ensure that it will be more
difficult for a virus to manage to forge her approved address and send
to her list submission address.)

If this list is a distribution list (not a discussion list), you may 
want to hide the sender address, so that the automatically approved 
submission addresses are not disclosed to the list recepients.  This is 
the last item under General List Personality at:

	~/mailman/admin/listname/general

jc



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[Mailman-Users] Cron script every minute

2003-02-24 Thread Jordan Dahlke
I hope I'm not troubling anyone, and that this isn't answered anywhere.  And I
apologize if you don't feel this to be a mailman issue.  Since mailman has a
cron script run every minute, and cron, on Debian anyways, uses pam, and pam
uses the pam_unix module, every minute mailman gets a log in the
/var/log/auth.log among others.  Is there a workaround for this that I should be
aware of?  It just seems silly to fill the logs with this information every
minute.

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman - Webglimpse

2003-02-24 Thread C. Posey
I am working on adding a search function to my mailing list. I have 
patched all the files and have htdig up and running but I really prefer 
WebGlimpse. Has anyone had any success integrating WebGlimpse into 
searching mailman archives? If so how or where can I find more info.

- thx

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Example of bad line break in subject header

2003-02-24 Thread Sumeet Pannu
This is clearly what I meant to say in my last post. Doug Brandon also has
this issue and no one was able to address it for him. I have the same issue
as Mr. Marks. Would someone please point me to the correct Headers.py patch
referred to below, perhaps my mileage will be better than Mr. Marks'.
Alternatively a migration back to 2.0.13 would be acceptable if anyone has
done this. Thanks, sumeet.
- Original Message -
From: Mitchell Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 3:48 PM
Subject: Example of bad line break in subject header was Re: [Mailman-Users]
Upgrade from 2.0.x to 2.1.1-- incorrect padding error.


 I'm enclosing below the full headers from Sumeet P's recent message, as
 they reached me.  This shows the formatting problem discussed last week,
 mentioned on the Mailman-Users list by Sarah from NOW and seconded by me,
 and also turned over a little on the Developers list.

 The discussion on Developers included requests for an example that would
 reproduce the problem.  I don't know if this one will show the same
 behavior if re-tried on another installation, but here we can at least see
 it happening someplace we can observe in common.  (In case this gets
 mangled on the way back through, the Subject header as I've received it
and
 pasted below is: first line  [Mailman-Users]  then second line a Tab and
 the rest   Upgrade from 2.0.x to 2.1.1-- incorrect padding error. )

 I've installed the recommended Headers.py patch (and checked that it is
 /this/ headers.py that is being used), and I thought briefly that the
 problem was solved for my installation -- but it isn't. I'll quote a
 subject string that I've seen problems with, but note that whether it's
 reproducible seems to depend on what list it's going through.  Here's the
 example: [CUIP Activity]  NSPTECH 2097 Alex Wilson  Wednesday 2003-01-15
 OS install/Printer Install.  It breaks after the list tag [CUIP
Activity],
 and so do test messages with longish subjects that go through that
 list.  But if I send a message with that same header through a Test list
 (or any of several others), it doesn't break funny.  I'm trying to figure
 out the differences between the lists, but haven't managed to make the
 error happen in the Test list by fiddling with Language Options and
 Personalization.

 I'm close to ready to just suppress all wrapping in Subjects if that would
 cure this oddity.  Would that be a disaster waiting to happen?  How hard
 would it be (I don't know much about the Mailman python code)?

 Thanks,

Mitch Marks

 P.S.  The point was made in the Developers discussion that Eudora's
 handling of the newlines in the summary windows may not accord to the
 relevant standard.  Would someone who can speak to this fairly
 authoritatively feel like sending a report/suggestion in Qualcomm's
 direction?  This is indeed only bothering Eudora users here.  (Including
me...)


 The headers for the example passing through Mailman-Users:

  At 03:23 PM 2/23/03, Sumeet wrote:
  X-Originating-IP: [65.113.40.130]
  From: Sumeet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 13:23:58 -0800
  X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200
  X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2003 21:23:59.0699 (UTC)
 FILETIME=[E14D2A30:01C2DB81]
  X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0
  

tests=BODY_PYTHON_ZOPE,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,FROM_BIGISP,LARGE_HEX,SPAM_PHRAS
  E_00_01,USER_AGENT_OE
  X-Spam-Level: *
  Subject: [Mailman-Users]
 Upgrade from 2.0.x to 2.1.1-- incorrect padding error.
  X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1
  List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users
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[Mailman-Users] Stat Package?

2003-02-24 Thread Jim Hale
Is there any sort of package that will create a web page of Mailman
stats which contains things like the name of lists, number of members,
number of messages sent by day, number of messages in the archives, etc?

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix *2*?

2003-02-24 Thread Jeremy Butler
As a sendmail newbie, I was having too much trouble implementing Mailman's 
aliasing system and so--at Keith Mastin's suggestion--I shifted over to 
Postfix.  I'm happy to say that that works like a charm!  Thanks very much.

But it does bring up a new question:

Does Mailman work well with the recently released (20030112), version *2* 
of Postfix?

The version I used this week is version 1, which came pre-installed on my 
RedHat 8 system.  (Indeed, one can switch in RH8 from sendmail to Postfix 
via a GUI!)  But I'm wondering if I should upgrade to Postfix 2 before I 
get much further into the configuration of Mailman and version 1 of Postfix.

Thanks for the advice.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix *2*?

2003-02-24 Thread Larry Hansford
At 09:35 AM 2/24/2003, Jeremy Butler wrote:
As a sendmail newbie, I was having too much trouble implementing Mailman's 
aliasing system and so--at Keith Mastin's suggestion--I shifted over to 
Postfix.  I'm happy to say that that works like a charm!  Thanks very much.

But it does bring up a new question:

Does Mailman work well with the recently released (20030112), version *2* 
of Postfix?
I'm running Postfix 2.0.4 on all my systems, with Mailman 2.1.1, and it is 
a perfect match.  There are a lot of enhancements in Postfix 2, that makes 
it worth the upgrade.

Larry


The version I used this week is version 1, which came pre-installed on my 
RedHat 8 system.  (Indeed, one can switch in RH8 from sendmail to Postfix 
via a GUI!)  But I'm wondering if I should upgrade to Postfix 2 before I 
get much further into the configuration of Mailman and version 1 of Postfix.

Thanks for the advice.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Example of bad line break in subject header

2003-02-24 Thread Mitchell Marks
Thank you for these patches.  They didn't yet solve the problem.  However, 
I think I can clarify the circumstances under which it occurs.  It seems to 
be not the list settings (for Language or Personalization) which matter, 
but the message's original type.  Specifically, I'm seeing the problem when 
the message is text/html when it arrives.  (MM is sending it back out as 
multipart/mixed).  These messages do not generally have any hi-bit or 
encoded characters in their Subjects.

 Thanks,

  -- Mitch

At 07:48 PM 2/23/03, Tokio Kikuchi wrote:
Hi,

I've uploaded a new patch. Please try.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=687338group_id=25568atid=384680
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=25568atid=384680file_id=43260aid=687338
I also recommend to use my version of CookHeaders.py. Looks like
it's complicated by more stable than CVS.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=601117group_id=103atid=300103
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=103atid=300103file_id=42418aid=601117
Tokio

Mitchell Marks wrote:
I'm enclosing below the full headers from Sumeet P's recent message, as 
they reached me.  This shows the formatting problem discussed last week, 
mentioned on the Mailman-Users list by Sarah from NOW and seconded by me, 
and also turned over a little on the Developers list.
snip
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix *2*?

2003-02-24 Thread Keith Mastin
Hi jeremy,

As a sendmail newbie, I was having too much trouble implementing Mailman's 
aliasing system and so--at Keith Mastin's suggestion--I shifted over to 
Postfix.  I'm happy to say that that works like a charm!  Thanks very much.

But it does bring up a new question:

Does Mailman work well with the recently released (20030112), version *2* 
of Postfix?

The version I used this week is version 1, which came pre-installed on my 
RedHat 8 system.  (Indeed, one can switch in RH8 from sendmail to Postfix 
via a GUI!)  But I'm wondering if I should upgrade to Postfix 2 before I 
get much further into the configuration of Mailman and version 1 of Postfix.

Thanks for the advice.

The answer here is really simple... just stick with the redhat releases as 
they come up. The version you are running will be fine, is secure and is 
operationable. When a new release comes out that has significant changes, 
redhat will make a compatible binary and release it.

If you install from sources, there will be problems if you later plan on 
switching back to rpms. The best workaround is to roll your own rpms.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade to 2.1

2003-02-24 Thread Charles Sebold
On 19 Adar I 5763, Andy Firman wrote:

 Any Debian users on this list?
 How would I upgrade from 2.0.11?
 
 When I installed the system I just did an apt-get install mailman.
 
 Do I need to do a source install to upgrade?
 Not sure if I can do that.

At this time it looks like the latest version in sarge (the testing
distribution) is 2.0.13.  Sid or unstable appears to have a version
of 2.1:

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/mailman.html

However note that packages don't move from unstable to testing until
they have gone for a couple of weeks without a major bug report.

If you have to upgrade now, you might want to get the source (the
canonical source for 2.1.1, not the Debian package source), configure in
a way that matches the Debian configuration (like changing the Makefile
to MAILMAN_UID=list rather than something else,
MAILMAN_HOME=/var/lib/mailman, and so on), and try installing from
source on a test system.  But from then on you would probably have to
maintain the source yourself, or go through some sort of reintegration
process to sync back up to whatever changes Debian introduces into its
2.1+ packages.

At the moment I am waiting for the Debian package to at least come down
to testing.  If I had to upgrade now, I would probably follow the
directions to have two Mailman installs on the same system, install
from source, move the lists over manually, and then stick to source
installs from then on, and not use Debian.  But I'm lazy and not yet
desperate for the 2.1+ features, so I'm waiting for Debian.
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman and Postfix *2*?

2003-02-24 Thread John Redmond


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:38:50 -0500 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 5, Issue 78

From: Jeremy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:35:07 -0600

 Wrote as follows... 

 As a sendmail newbie, I was having too much trouble implementing Mailman's 
 aliasing system and so--at Keith Mastin's suggestion--I shifted over to 
 Postfix.  I'm happy to say that that works like a charm!  Thanks very much.
 
 But it does bring up a new question:
 
 Does Mailman work well with the recently released (20030112), version *2* 
 of Postfix?
 
 The version I used this week is version 1, which came pre-installed on my 
 RedHat 8 system.  (Indeed, one can switch in RH8 from sendmail to Postfix 
 via a GUI!)  But I'm wondering if I should upgrade to Postfix 2 before I 
 get much further into the configuration of Mailman and version 1 of Postfix.
 
 Thanks for the advice.
 
 

I installed 2.1 with Postfix 2.0.3 and all appears well. Mind you this is based on 
simple testing with low traffic, as I'm just getting ready to  test with for actual 
users!  

John 



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Re: [Mailman-Users] newsletter

2003-02-24 Thread Andy Firman
On Sunday 23 February 2003 14:50, Curt Siffert wrote:
 Is there a way to keep the email address of a sender from showing up
 anywhere in the headers of the resulting email?

 I've got a newsletter with everyone moderated except for one user, who
 I'd like to be able to post to the list.  But if his email address
 shows up in the email, someone else could forge it and be able to spam
 the list, couldn't they?  Unless there's a way to hide the sender's
 email address.  Is there a better way to handle this without requiring
 someone to approve a message through the web interface?

Yes this is very simple and just by running a test list you will see how
easy it is.  Also, we just talked about this recently so look at the archives
and you will find lots of information there.

Andy

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[Mailman-Users] Deleting a list via the web interface

2003-02-24 Thread Martin, Greg (CSC)
I'm having a bear of a time figuring out how to remove a list via the web
interface (no luck searching the archives) .  I ran /mailman/rmlist/listname
and I get a msg saying You're being a sneaky list owner

I figure I can do it via the rmlist script, but was hoping there was a web
way.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman on an Ensim Webppliance?

2003-02-24 Thread Paul H Byerly
 Has anyone installed Mailman 2.1 on a server running Ensim 
Webppliance?  I've search the web high a low, and the best I can come up 
with is it can be done, but it's difficult.  I'm going to take a shot at 
it soon, but since knowledge is power I want to arm myself as well as 
possible before I get going.

TIA,
 Paul
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors in nightly gzip

2003-02-24 Thread Todd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Lucas Albers wrote:
 I am getting errors in my nightly gzip job.
 Any ideas what is causing it?
 Check-perms does not find any errors.
[...]
 Message Excerpt:
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip, line 154, in ?
 main()
   File /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip, line 140, in main
 compress(f)
   File /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip, line 81, in compress
 outfp = gzip.open(txtfile+'.gz', 'wb', 6)
   File //usr/lib/python2.2/gzip.py, line 30, in open
 return GzipFile(filename, mode, compresslevel)
   File //usr/lib/python2.2/gzip.py, line 43, in __init__
 fileobj = self.myfileobj = __builtin__.open(filename, mode or 'rb')
 IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
 '/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/cs223/2003-February.txt.gz'

 Permissions on my those files are:
 drwxrwsr-x2 mailman  mailman  4096 Feb 18 14:42 2003-February
 -rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  1484 Feb 18 14:42 2003-February.txt
 drwxrws---2 mailman  mailman  4096 Feb 18 14:42 database
 -rw-rw-rw-1 apache   mailman  1156 Feb 18 14:42 index.html
 -rw-rw1 mailman  mailman   844 Feb 18 14:42 pipermail.pck

Just out of curiosity, what are the perms on the directory where mailman is
trying to create the file (/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/cs223)?

If that looks good, what are the perms of the directories back up the tree?

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[Mailman-Users] auto-discard/purge to an announce list?

2003-02-24 Thread Jonathan Ah Kit
Hi,

Well, with the glorious (hehe) event of my mailing list server going back
up, I've a question.

I am back running the sarge/testing Debian package (2.0.13, IIRC) of
Mailman, and I'm wondering if there's a way to either auto discard all
admindb requests? The rationale is that I run mostly announce lists at the
moment, and with just confirm subscribes, I shouldn't need to approve
anything at all, including the posts from only explicit address (which has
been set).

Any ideas, people? This is kinda semi-production, so I can't have much
playing about. :(

On another related matter: I had to quickly downgrade this week by doing a
quick archive backup and dpkg --purge. Next time I try the sid Debian
package, anyone have some general tips on the upgrade? (Other than keeping
a 2.0.13 config and db backup...)

Thanks!

Jonathan

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[Mailman-Users] authentication problem on upgrade

2003-02-24 Thread Dave Stern - Former Rocket Scientist
I'm going from 2.0.13 to 2.1.1. The machine I want to first test it on
has no compiler so I copy the real mailman structures onto another machine,
(let's call it test.domain) have account, group, perms etc set up,

configure --prefix=/etc/mailman --build=test.domain \
  --host=test.domain

make install
copy resulting structure (/etc/mailman) onto new machine

edit /etc/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py and Defaults.py on test.domain to have
 the correct hostname and path

restart web server

I can get to the main page but it fails to authenticate me.
I even rerun mmsitepass on test.domain.   I presume it takes this
as I can create a new list.


Here's the error I get on the webpage when I try to authenticate and get into
the newly created list (or existing lists)
===
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.1

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to 
the webmaster for this site with a description of
what happened. Thanks!

Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /etc/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main
main()
  File /etc/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 82, in main
cgidata.getvalue('adminpw', '')):
  File /etc/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 219, in WebAuthenticate
print self.MakeCookie(ac, user)
  File /etc/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 234, in MakeCookie
c = Cookie.SimpleCookie()
AttributeError: 'Mailman.Cookie' module has no attribute 'SimpleCookie'

Any ideas?

Thanks




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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.1 list subscription mechanism seems to be broken:please help

2003-02-24 Thread S. Krishnan


Hi,

I just upgraded my working mailman 2.0.13 install to 2.1.1 by
downloading and installing from source. The previous version worked
fine.  However, 2.1.1 has a major issue with subscription messages. 
Every time someone subscribes to a list, mailman sends them a mailing
list subscription confirmation notice.  With mailman 2.1.1, replying to
this notice does not seem to work.  Instead of confirming the
subscription, it sends *another* mailing list subscription confirmation
notice, with a different number.  Replying to this results in yet
another subscription confirmation notice! 

However, subscription confirmation off the web page works OK.  It is
only the confirmation by reply to the notice that is broken.

Could someone please help?

TIA,

Krishnan






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[Mailman-Users] moderators not getting notified private archives not found

2003-02-24 Thread Matthew Kalastro
I just installed Mailman 2.1.1 and my users are reporting problems.  

First, list moderators are not getting notified to approve posts.  Here's the
settings for the lists I'm having problems with:
Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit action
is defined. = Hold
Should messages from non-members, which are automatically discarded, be
forwarded to the list moderator? = Yes
Should the list moderators get immediate notice of new requests, as well as
daily notices about collected ones? = Yes
list administrator = [EMAIL PROTECTED] (password set)
list moderator = [EMAIL PROTECTED] (password set)

Are there other settings that effect moderator notification?  Mail is coming in
and going out fine, and posters are getting notified their messages are held for
approval.  But moderators are not being emailed to approve non-member postings.

Second, I had to tweak Mailman/Cgi/private.py to work around a Private archive
file not found error.  The call to guess_type(path, strict=0) seems broken on
my install of Mailman, so here's what I used instead (from my tweaked
private.py):

# Authorization confirmed... output the desired file
try:
#ctype, enc = guess_type(path, strict=0)
#if ctype is None:
ctype = 'text/html'
if mboxfile:
f = open(os.path.join(mlist.archive_dir() + '.mbox',
  mlist.internal_name() + '.mbox'))
ctype = 'text/plain'
elif true_filename.endswith('.gz'):
import gzip
f = gzip.open(true_filename, 'r')
ctype='application/x-gzip'
else:
f = open(true_filename, 'r')
ctype='text/html'
except IOError:
msg = _('Private archive file not found')
doc.SetTitle(msg)
doc.AddItem(Header(2, msg))
print doc.Format()
syslog('error', 'Private archive file not found: %s', true_filename)
else:
print 'Content-type: %s\n' % ctype
sys.stdout.write(f.read())
f.close()

Anyone seen this problem?  Is my Mailman or Python install broken?

Any advise or help really appreciated.

Thanks a lot,
Matt

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors in nightly gzip

2003-02-24 Thread Todd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Luke,

Lucas Albers wrote:
 Just out of curiosity, what are the perms on the directory where mailman
 is trying to create the file (/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/cs223)?

 ls -l /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/cs223
 total 20
 drwxrwsr-x2 mailman  mailman  4096 Feb 18 14:42 2003-February
 -rw-rw-r--1 mailman  mailman  1484 Feb 18 14:42 2003-February.txt
 drwxrws---2 mailman  mailman  4096 Feb 18 14:42 database
 -rw-rw-rw-1 apache   mailman  1156 Feb 18 14:42 index.html
 -rw-rw1 mailman  mailman   844 Feb 18 14:42 pipermail.pck

Actually, what I was asking about was the permissions on the directory
itself.  Like this:

ls -ld /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/cs223

If the permissions there look reasonable, then repeat that command, removing
a directory each time, ala:

ls -ld /usr/local/mailman/archives/private
ls -ld /usr/local/mailman/archives
ls -ld /usr/local/mailman

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[Mailman-Users] How do I move a list from one virtual domain to another?

2003-02-24 Thread Peter Bengtson
I need to move a mailing list from one of my virtual domains to 
another, but I can't find any information on how to proceed anywhere in 
the FAQ. The name of the list is the same, but the virtual domain is 
different. Previously, 'web_page_url' was available, but nowadays it 
isn't defined (bin/config_list -c) reports it as undefined.

How is this done?

	/ Peter Bengtson

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Re: [Mailman-Users] auto-discard/purge to an announce list?

2003-02-24 Thread Matthew Davis
* Jonathan Ah Kit ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I am back running the sarge/testing Debian package (2.0.13, IIRC) of
 Mailman, and I'm wondering if there's a way to either auto discard all
 admindb requests? The rationale is that I run mostly announce lists at the
 moment, and with just confirm subscribes, I shouldn't need to approve
 anything at all, including the posts from only explicit address (which has
 been set).

Check FAQ 1.12


 On another related matter: I had to quickly downgrade this week by doing a
 quick archive backup and dpkg --purge. Next time I try the sid Debian
 package, anyone have some general tips on the upgrade? (Other than keeping
 a 2.0.13 config and db backup...)

Upgrade should be smooth.  Did you downgrade due to a problem?  If so what
was it?

And its good to backup $prefix/lists $prefix/archives $prefix/data

And in case you have custom web pages/messages, $prefix/templates and
$prefix/messages

And if your the paraniod sysadmin type..  just backup all of $prefix/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] authentication problem on upgrade

2003-02-24 Thread Matthew Davis
* Dave Stern - Former Rocket Scientist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I'm going from 2.0.13 to 2.1.1. The machine I want to first test it on
 has no compiler so I copy the real mailman structures onto another machine,
 (let's call it test.domain) have account, group, perms etc set up,
[snip]
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /etc/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main
 main()
   File /etc/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 82, in main
 cgidata.getvalue('adminpw', '')):
   File /etc/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 219, in WebAuthenticate
 print self.MakeCookie(ac, user)
   File /etc/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 234, in MakeCookie
 c = Cookie.SimpleCookie()
 AttributeError: 'Mailman.Cookie' module has no attribute 'SimpleCookie'
 
 Any ideas?

Try cleaning out the cookies on the client machine.  There have been
problems with old 2.0.13 cookies interfearing with 2.1 cookies.

Just an idea, see if that works.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] newsletter

2003-02-24 Thread Curt Siffert
It appears my particular problem might be related to either qmail or  
verp.  Even if I have mailman configured correctly, my message headers  
include Return-Path which includes the email address of the original  
sender.  Does anyone have any idea of how I can easily parse this out?   
Does mailman have this capability?  Or is there an area of the code I  
can patch easily?

Thanks,
Curt
On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 09:14  AM, Andy Firman wrote:

On Sunday 23 February 2003 14:50, Curt Siffert wrote:
Is there a way to keep the email address of a sender from showing up
anywhere in the headers of the resulting email?
I've got a newsletter with everyone moderated except for one user, who
I'd like to be able to post to the list.  But if his email address
shows up in the email, someone else could forge it and be able to spam
the list, couldn't they?  Unless there's a way to hide the sender's
email address.  Is there a better way to handle this without requiring
someone to approve a message through the web interface?
Yes this is very simple and just by running a test list you will see  
how
easy it is.  Also, we just talked about this recently so look at the  
archives
and you will find lots of information there.

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[Mailman-Users] 2.1.1, Archiving, News, and monthly reminders

2003-02-24 Thread Spike Ilacqua

Two quick questions:

I just upgraded to 2.1.1 and now Archiving and Mail/News gatewaying
appear on the list config page.  I don't want provide archiving and
Mail/News gateway is confusing a folks who don't know what News is but
figure they should enable it anyway.  Is there anyway to disable these
to features?

Second, is there any way to get the monthly password reminders to come
from the list owners?  I have maybe two dozen lists, some of them
largem run by about a dozen people.  Every month the password
reminders go out and I get back about twenty message from people who
didn't read the instructions and reply back to mailman with some
request or another.  I then have to manually forward the requests to
the right list owner.  Assuming it can't be setup that way, and
looking at the code, it doesn't seem likely, how do other people
handle this?

Thanks,

-Spike


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[Mailman-Users] Approved: Header

2003-02-24 Thread LuKreme
I checked the FAQ for info on the Approved header, but although I found 
references to using it, I didn't find references to exactly HOW to use 
it.

All I want is for a poster to a list to put an Approved line as the 
first line of the body and then have that line stripped before the 
message is passed to the list.

How do I set this up and what needs to be on the approved line?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: Header

2003-02-24 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

 L == LuKreme  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

L I checked the FAQ for info on the Approved header, but although
L I found references to using it, I didn't find references to
L exactly HOW to use it.

L All I want is for a poster to a list to put an Approved line as
L the first line of the body and then have that line stripped
L before the message is passed to the list.

L How do I set this up and what needs to be on the approved line?

You don't need to do anything to set this up.

Say you have a list with an admin password of geddy.  If a
non-member (or otherwise unapproved poster) sends a message to the
list with a regular mail header of

Approved: geddy

then the message, which normally would be held or bounced, goes
through to the list without moderation.  Putting that line as the
first non-whitespace line in the body of the message is equivalent.
In both cases, the header and/or body line is removed before the
message is forwarded.

Approve: passwd is a synonym.  Both the list admin password and
the moderator password is accepted.

Note that there's a related feature; if the header is Urgent: with the
appropriate password, then the message is sent to all members
immediately, including digest members (who get it twice -- once
immediately and once in the digest).

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[Mailman-Users] Postfix version? (Was Re: Mailman and Postfix *2*?)

2003-02-24 Thread LuKreme
On Monday, Feb 24, 2003, at 09:28 Canada/Mountain, John Redmond wrote:
I installed 2.1 with Postfix 2.0.3 and all appears well. Mind you this 
is based on simple testing with low traffic, as I'm just getting ready 
to  test with for actual users!
Curiously, I can't seem to figure out what version of postfix is 
installed.  There's no version flag that I can see in the man page.  I 
mean, I THINK I am running 2.0.0.2, but that's just based on a faint 
recollection of installing that version.

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[Mailman-Users] permission errors

2003-02-24 Thread LuKreme
I keep getting these errors in the errr log.  Seems every day the 
config.pck files are created as user www, group mailman, and 
permissions of 660.

Feb 24 23:15:02 2003 gate_news(28507): IOError :  [Errno 13] Permission 
denied: '/Users/mailman/lists/thelist/config.pck'

How do I fix this?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix version? (Was Re: Mailman and Postfix*2*?)

2003-02-24 Thread Keith Mastin
On Monday, Feb 24, 2003, at 09:28 Canada/Mountain, John Redmond wrote:
 I installed 2.1 with Postfix 2.0.3 and all appears well. Mind you this 
 is based on simple testing with low traffic, as I'm just getting ready 
 to  test with for actual users!

Curiously, I can't seem to figure out what version of postfix is 
installed.  There's no version flag that I can see in the man page.  I 
mean, I THINK I am running 2.0.0.2, but that's just based on a faint 
recollection of installing that version.

check the maillogs


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix *2*?

2003-02-24 Thread Vivek Khera
 JB == Jeremy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

JB Does Mailman work well with the recently released (20030112), version *2* 
JB of Postfix?

Yes.  However...

Postfix' sendmail-style virtual domains are no longer officially
documented or supported.

Virtual domains are now specified using two postfix config variables:
virtual_alias_domains and virtual_alias_maps.  In
virtual_alias_domains you wan to list the same domains you list in
Mailman's POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS variable.  virtual_alias_maps
is the replacement for virtual_maps as Mailman uses it.  Since Mailman
doesn't set the postfix 'magic' entry to identify a domain to
virtualize in the maps it generates, it is necessary to list them in
the virtual_alias_domains variable.

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