Re: [Mailman-Users] List email pre-approval
On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 21:40, Steve Sterling wrote: With Majordomo, you could pre-approve a message to the list, say from an otherwise unsubscribed user or to a moderated list. I tried with my mailman, but it treats the Approved: password first line as normal message body. Somewhere, I remember seeing that Mailman supports such things, but can't find any documentation on syntax, etc. Jon Carnes wrote: Could this be the problem: When searching for an Approve/Approved header, the first non-whitespace line of the body of the message is also checked, if the body has a MIME type of text/plain. Can your mailclient add the Approve line as a header? I suspect the problem is due to sending the message with formatted text (not MIME type text/plain) and *also* using the Approved line as the first line in the body of the message. If you need for non-subscribers to be able to send formatted posts from a client that won't allow adding an Approved header, you can just specify approved posters. The option is found under Privacy Options, Sender Filters, at: ~mailman/admin/listname/privacy/sender Then any message from one of the approved email addresses will be sent on without requiring further approval. ***Warning*** If an email virus which uses email addresses found on a victim's computer manages to grab one of these approved addresses and use it as the From and also coincidentally grabs your mailing list submission address and uses it as the To, your list will accept the virus laden email and distribute the virus to your whole list. This coincidence is not unlikely, since both addresses will be found together in the inbox or address book of your subscribers. One infected subscriber can then infect your whole list. (I have a friend who has a large newsletter list and who has been repeatedly falsely accused of spreading viruses when a virus forged her list address as the From and then sent the virus *directly* to a list subscriber (her subscribers also often know each other directly, thus one subscriber who has the list address in her address book will also have another subscriber's address in her address book too). She is sticking with the Approved header to ensure that it will be more difficult for a virus to manage to forge her approved address and send to her list submission address.) If this list is a distribution list (not a discussion list), you may want to hide the sender address, so that the automatically approved submission addresses are not disclosed to the list recepients. This is the last item under General List Personality at: ~/mailman/admin/listname/general jc -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Cron script every minute
I hope I'm not troubling anyone, and that this isn't answered anywhere. And I apologize if you don't feel this to be a mailman issue. Since mailman has a cron script run every minute, and cron, on Debian anyways, uses pam, and pam uses the pam_unix module, every minute mailman gets a log in the /var/log/auth.log among others. Is there a workaround for this that I should be aware of? It just seems silly to fill the logs with this information every minute. Thanks, Jordan Dahlke -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman - Webglimpse
I am working on adding a search function to my mailing list. I have patched all the files and have htdig up and running but I really prefer WebGlimpse. Has anyone had any success integrating WebGlimpse into searching mailman archives? If so how or where can I find more info. - thx -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: Example of bad line break in subject header
This is clearly what I meant to say in my last post. Doug Brandon also has this issue and no one was able to address it for him. I have the same issue as Mr. Marks. Would someone please point me to the correct Headers.py patch referred to below, perhaps my mileage will be better than Mr. Marks'. Alternatively a migration back to 2.0.13 would be acceptable if anyone has done this. Thanks, sumeet. - Original Message - From: Mitchell Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 3:48 PM Subject: Example of bad line break in subject header was Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade from 2.0.x to 2.1.1-- incorrect padding error. I'm enclosing below the full headers from Sumeet P's recent message, as they reached me. This shows the formatting problem discussed last week, mentioned on the Mailman-Users list by Sarah from NOW and seconded by me, and also turned over a little on the Developers list. The discussion on Developers included requests for an example that would reproduce the problem. I don't know if this one will show the same behavior if re-tried on another installation, but here we can at least see it happening someplace we can observe in common. (In case this gets mangled on the way back through, the Subject header as I've received it and pasted below is: first line [Mailman-Users] then second line a Tab and the rest Upgrade from 2.0.x to 2.1.1-- incorrect padding error. ) I've installed the recommended Headers.py patch (and checked that it is /this/ headers.py that is being used), and I thought briefly that the problem was solved for my installation -- but it isn't. I'll quote a subject string that I've seen problems with, but note that whether it's reproducible seems to depend on what list it's going through. Here's the example: [CUIP Activity] NSPTECH 2097 Alex Wilson Wednesday 2003-01-15 OS install/Printer Install. It breaks after the list tag [CUIP Activity], and so do test messages with longish subjects that go through that list. But if I send a message with that same header through a Test list (or any of several others), it doesn't break funny. I'm trying to figure out the differences between the lists, but haven't managed to make the error happen in the Test list by fiddling with Language Options and Personalization. I'm close to ready to just suppress all wrapping in Subjects if that would cure this oddity. Would that be a disaster waiting to happen? How hard would it be (I don't know much about the Mailman python code)? Thanks, Mitch Marks P.S. The point was made in the Developers discussion that Eudora's handling of the newlines in the summary windows may not accord to the relevant standard. Would someone who can speak to this fairly authoritatively feel like sending a report/suggestion in Qualcomm's direction? This is indeed only bothering Eudora users here. (Including me...) The headers for the example passing through Mailman-Users: At 03:23 PM 2/23/03, Sumeet wrote: X-Originating-IP: [65.113.40.130] From: Sumeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 13:23:58 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2003 21:23:59.0699 (UTC) FILETIME=[E14D2A30:01C2DB81] X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=BODY_PYTHON_ZOPE,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,FROM_BIGISP,LARGE_HEX,SPAM_PHRAS E_00_01,USER_AGENT_OE X-Spam-Level: * Subject: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade from 2.0.x to 2.1.1-- incorrect padding error. X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users mailman-users.python.org List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mitchell Marks CUIP Tech Coordinatorhttp://cuip.uchicago.edu CUIP: Chicago Public Schools / Univ. of Chicago Internet Project 5640 S Ellis Ave AAC-045, Univ of Chgo, Chgo IL 60637 Telephone: Ofc 773-702-6041 Fax 702-8212 Home (v.m. only, ok any time) 241-7166 Email: Primary address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate UofC addresses (use especially to report problems with cuip.uchicago.edu): [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Off-campus (ISP) address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options
[Mailman-Users] Stat Package?
Is there any sort of package that will create a web page of Mailman stats which contains things like the name of lists, number of members, number of messages sent by day, number of messages in the archives, etc? Jim Hale --- 'The OS Tells The PC What To Do With Itself - Me, 1990 --- Visit Our Personal Website at http://hale.dyndns.org, Our Forums at http://haleforum.dyndns.org or Our Photo Galleries at http://halegallery.dyndns.org. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix *2*?
As a sendmail newbie, I was having too much trouble implementing Mailman's aliasing system and so--at Keith Mastin's suggestion--I shifted over to Postfix. I'm happy to say that that works like a charm! Thanks very much. But it does bring up a new question: Does Mailman work well with the recently released (20030112), version *2* of Postfix? The version I used this week is version 1, which came pre-installed on my RedHat 8 system. (Indeed, one can switch in RH8 from sendmail to Postfix via a GUI!) But I'm wondering if I should upgrade to Postfix 2 before I get much further into the configuration of Mailman and version 1 of Postfix. Thanks for the advice. Jeremy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] TELEVISION: CRITICAL METHODS AND APPLICATIONS www.TVCrit.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix *2*?
At 09:35 AM 2/24/2003, Jeremy Butler wrote: As a sendmail newbie, I was having too much trouble implementing Mailman's aliasing system and so--at Keith Mastin's suggestion--I shifted over to Postfix. I'm happy to say that that works like a charm! Thanks very much. But it does bring up a new question: Does Mailman work well with the recently released (20030112), version *2* of Postfix? I'm running Postfix 2.0.4 on all my systems, with Mailman 2.1.1, and it is a perfect match. There are a lot of enhancements in Postfix 2, that makes it worth the upgrade. Larry The version I used this week is version 1, which came pre-installed on my RedHat 8 system. (Indeed, one can switch in RH8 from sendmail to Postfix via a GUI!) But I'm wondering if I should upgrade to Postfix 2 before I get much further into the configuration of Mailman and version 1 of Postfix. Thanks for the advice. Jeremy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] TELEVISION: CRITICAL METHODS AND APPLICATIONS www.TVCrit.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: Example of bad line break in subject header
Thank you for these patches. They didn't yet solve the problem. However, I think I can clarify the circumstances under which it occurs. It seems to be not the list settings (for Language or Personalization) which matter, but the message's original type. Specifically, I'm seeing the problem when the message is text/html when it arrives. (MM is sending it back out as multipart/mixed). These messages do not generally have any hi-bit or encoded characters in their Subjects. Thanks, -- Mitch At 07:48 PM 2/23/03, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: Hi, I've uploaded a new patch. Please try. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=687338group_id=25568atid=384680 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=25568atid=384680file_id=43260aid=687338 I also recommend to use my version of CookHeaders.py. Looks like it's complicated by more stable than CVS. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=601117group_id=103atid=300103 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=103atid=300103file_id=42418aid=601117 Tokio Mitchell Marks wrote: I'm enclosing below the full headers from Sumeet P's recent message, as they reached me. This shows the formatting problem discussed last week, mentioned on the Mailman-Users list by Sarah from NOW and seconded by me, and also turned over a little on the Developers list. snip -- Mitchell Marks CUIP Tech Coordinatorhttp://cuip.uchicago.edu CUIP: Chicago Public Schools / Univ. of Chicago Internet Project 5640 S Ellis Ave AAC-045, Univ of Chgo, Chgo IL 60637 Telephone: Ofc 773-702-6041 Fax 702-8212 Home (v.m. only, ok any time) 241-7166 Email: Primary address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate UofC addresses (use especially to report problems with cuip.uchicago.edu): [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Off-campus (ISP) address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix *2*?
Hi jeremy, As a sendmail newbie, I was having too much trouble implementing Mailman's aliasing system and so--at Keith Mastin's suggestion--I shifted over to Postfix. I'm happy to say that that works like a charm! Thanks very much. But it does bring up a new question: Does Mailman work well with the recently released (20030112), version *2* of Postfix? The version I used this week is version 1, which came pre-installed on my RedHat 8 system. (Indeed, one can switch in RH8 from sendmail to Postfix via a GUI!) But I'm wondering if I should upgrade to Postfix 2 before I get much further into the configuration of Mailman and version 1 of Postfix. Thanks for the advice. The answer here is really simple... just stick with the redhat releases as they come up. The version you are running will be fine, is secure and is operationable. When a new release comes out that has significant changes, redhat will make a compatible binary and release it. If you install from sources, there will be problems if you later plan on switching back to rpms. The best workaround is to roll your own rpms. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade to 2.1
On 19 Adar I 5763, Andy Firman wrote: Any Debian users on this list? How would I upgrade from 2.0.11? When I installed the system I just did an apt-get install mailman. Do I need to do a source install to upgrade? Not sure if I can do that. At this time it looks like the latest version in sarge (the testing distribution) is 2.0.13. Sid or unstable appears to have a version of 2.1: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/mailman.html However note that packages don't move from unstable to testing until they have gone for a couple of weeks without a major bug report. If you have to upgrade now, you might want to get the source (the canonical source for 2.1.1, not the Debian package source), configure in a way that matches the Debian configuration (like changing the Makefile to MAILMAN_UID=list rather than something else, MAILMAN_HOME=/var/lib/mailman, and so on), and try installing from source on a test system. But from then on you would probably have to maintain the source yourself, or go through some sort of reintegration process to sync back up to whatever changes Debian introduces into its 2.1+ packages. At the moment I am waiting for the Debian package to at least come down to testing. If I had to upgrade now, I would probably follow the directions to have two Mailman installs on the same system, install from source, move the lists over manually, and then stick to source installs from then on, and not use Debian. But I'm lazy and not yet desperate for the 2.1+ features, so I'm waiting for Debian. -- Charles Sebold 22nd of Adar I, 5763 Systems Specialist, LCMS - Office of Information Systems *** Opinions expressed herein are not necessarily *** *** those of the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod *** -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman and Postfix *2*?
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:38:50 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 5, Issue 78 From: Jeremy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:35:07 -0600 Wrote as follows... As a sendmail newbie, I was having too much trouble implementing Mailman's aliasing system and so--at Keith Mastin's suggestion--I shifted over to Postfix. I'm happy to say that that works like a charm! Thanks very much. But it does bring up a new question: Does Mailman work well with the recently released (20030112), version *2* of Postfix? The version I used this week is version 1, which came pre-installed on my RedHat 8 system. (Indeed, one can switch in RH8 from sendmail to Postfix via a GUI!) But I'm wondering if I should upgrade to Postfix 2 before I get much further into the configuration of Mailman and version 1 of Postfix. Thanks for the advice. I installed 2.1 with Postfix 2.0.3 and all appears well. Mind you this is based on simple testing with low traffic, as I'm just getting ready to test with for actual users! John John Redmond London, Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ http://www.operamail.com Now with OperaMail Premium for only US$29.99/yr Powered by Outblaze -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] newsletter
On Sunday 23 February 2003 14:50, Curt Siffert wrote: Is there a way to keep the email address of a sender from showing up anywhere in the headers of the resulting email? I've got a newsletter with everyone moderated except for one user, who I'd like to be able to post to the list. But if his email address shows up in the email, someone else could forge it and be able to spam the list, couldn't they? Unless there's a way to hide the sender's email address. Is there a better way to handle this without requiring someone to approve a message through the web interface? Yes this is very simple and just by running a test list you will see how easy it is. Also, we just talked about this recently so look at the archives and you will find lots of information there. Andy -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Deleting a list via the web interface
I'm having a bear of a time figuring out how to remove a list via the web interface (no luck searching the archives) . I ran /mailman/rmlist/listname and I get a msg saying You're being a sneaky list owner I figure I can do it via the rmlist script, but was hoping there was a web way. \\Greg \\Greg Martin ** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. Thank you for your compliance. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman on an Ensim Webppliance?
Has anyone installed Mailman 2.1 on a server running Ensim Webppliance? I've search the web high a low, and the best I can come up with is it can be done, but it's difficult. I'm going to take a shot at it soon, but since knowledge is power I want to arm myself as well as possible before I get going. TIA, Paul -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors in nightly gzip
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lucas Albers wrote: I am getting errors in my nightly gzip job. Any ideas what is causing it? Check-perms does not find any errors. [...] Message Excerpt: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip, line 154, in ? main() File /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip, line 140, in main compress(f) File /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip, line 81, in compress outfp = gzip.open(txtfile+'.gz', 'wb', 6) File //usr/lib/python2.2/gzip.py, line 30, in open return GzipFile(filename, mode, compresslevel) File //usr/lib/python2.2/gzip.py, line 43, in __init__ fileobj = self.myfileobj = __builtin__.open(filename, mode or 'rb') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/cs223/2003-February.txt.gz' Permissions on my those files are: drwxrwsr-x2 mailman mailman 4096 Feb 18 14:42 2003-February -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 1484 Feb 18 14:42 2003-February.txt drwxrws---2 mailman mailman 4096 Feb 18 14:42 database -rw-rw-rw-1 apache mailman 1156 Feb 18 14:42 index.html -rw-rw1 mailman mailman 844 Feb 18 14:42 pipermail.pck Just out of curiosity, what are the perms on the directory where mailman is trying to create the file (/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/cs223)? If that looks good, what are the perms of the directories back up the tree? - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp Wisdom has two parts: (1) having a lot to say and (2) not saying it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+WnJNuv+09NZUB1oRAjUbAJ4t0AJzuB3UxKehPXomJDlSIXwu3wCgjeXJ /GiH4lBz9A+WYT9pm6Jpy/A= =yhLs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] auto-discard/purge to an announce list?
Hi, Well, with the glorious (hehe) event of my mailing list server going back up, I've a question. I am back running the sarge/testing Debian package (2.0.13, IIRC) of Mailman, and I'm wondering if there's a way to either auto discard all admindb requests? The rationale is that I run mostly announce lists at the moment, and with just confirm subscribes, I shouldn't need to approve anything at all, including the posts from only explicit address (which has been set). Any ideas, people? This is kinda semi-production, so I can't have much playing about. :( On another related matter: I had to quickly downgrade this week by doing a quick archive backup and dpkg --purge. Next time I try the sid Debian package, anyone have some general tips on the upgrade? (Other than keeping a 2.0.13 config and db backup...) Thanks! Jonathan -- Jonathan Ah Kit - Lower Hutt - New Zealand [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ah-kit.dropbear.id.au/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9747234 - http://www.electric.gen.nz/ Away message: Looking for adhesive tape, not Alibrandi. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] authentication problem on upgrade
I'm going from 2.0.13 to 2.1.1. The machine I want to first test it on has no compiler so I copy the real mailman structures onto another machine, (let's call it test.domain) have account, group, perms etc set up, configure --prefix=/etc/mailman --build=test.domain \ --host=test.domain make install copy resulting structure (/etc/mailman) onto new machine edit /etc/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py and Defaults.py on test.domain to have the correct hostname and path restart web server I can get to the main page but it fails to authenticate me. I even rerun mmsitepass on test.domain. I presume it takes this as I can create a new list. Here's the error I get on the webpage when I try to authenticate and get into the newly created list (or existing lists) === Bug in Mailman version 2.1.1 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File /etc/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main main() File /etc/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 82, in main cgidata.getvalue('adminpw', '')): File /etc/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 219, in WebAuthenticate print self.MakeCookie(ac, user) File /etc/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 234, in MakeCookie c = Cookie.SimpleCookie() AttributeError: 'Mailman.Cookie' module has no attribute 'SimpleCookie' Any ideas? Thanks =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- generated by /dev/dave -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David SternUniversity of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.1 list subscription mechanism seems to be broken:please help
Hi, I just upgraded my working mailman 2.0.13 install to 2.1.1 by downloading and installing from source. The previous version worked fine. However, 2.1.1 has a major issue with subscription messages. Every time someone subscribes to a list, mailman sends them a mailing list subscription confirmation notice. With mailman 2.1.1, replying to this notice does not seem to work. Instead of confirming the subscription, it sends *another* mailing list subscription confirmation notice, with a different number. Replying to this results in yet another subscription confirmation notice! However, subscription confirmation off the web page works OK. It is only the confirmation by reply to the notice that is broken. Could someone please help? TIA, Krishnan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] moderators not getting notified private archives not found
I just installed Mailman 2.1.1 and my users are reporting problems. First, list moderators are not getting notified to approve posts. Here's the settings for the lists I'm having problems with: Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit action is defined. = Hold Should messages from non-members, which are automatically discarded, be forwarded to the list moderator? = Yes Should the list moderators get immediate notice of new requests, as well as daily notices about collected ones? = Yes list administrator = [EMAIL PROTECTED] (password set) list moderator = [EMAIL PROTECTED] (password set) Are there other settings that effect moderator notification? Mail is coming in and going out fine, and posters are getting notified their messages are held for approval. But moderators are not being emailed to approve non-member postings. Second, I had to tweak Mailman/Cgi/private.py to work around a Private archive file not found error. The call to guess_type(path, strict=0) seems broken on my install of Mailman, so here's what I used instead (from my tweaked private.py): # Authorization confirmed... output the desired file try: #ctype, enc = guess_type(path, strict=0) #if ctype is None: ctype = 'text/html' if mboxfile: f = open(os.path.join(mlist.archive_dir() + '.mbox', mlist.internal_name() + '.mbox')) ctype = 'text/plain' elif true_filename.endswith('.gz'): import gzip f = gzip.open(true_filename, 'r') ctype='application/x-gzip' else: f = open(true_filename, 'r') ctype='text/html' except IOError: msg = _('Private archive file not found') doc.SetTitle(msg) doc.AddItem(Header(2, msg)) print doc.Format() syslog('error', 'Private archive file not found: %s', true_filename) else: print 'Content-type: %s\n' % ctype sys.stdout.write(f.read()) f.close() Anyone seen this problem? Is my Mailman or Python install broken? Any advise or help really appreciated. Thanks a lot, Matt -- Matthew Kalastro Webmaster, Baskin School of Engineering, UC Santa Cruz http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/ http://ssh.soe.ucsc.edu/ https://webmail.soe.ucsc.edu/ Baskin Engineering, rm 138, UCSC, 1156 High St., SC, CA 95064 831.459.5354 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Errors in nightly gzip
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Luke, Lucas Albers wrote: Just out of curiosity, what are the perms on the directory where mailman is trying to create the file (/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/cs223)? ls -l /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/cs223 total 20 drwxrwsr-x2 mailman mailman 4096 Feb 18 14:42 2003-February -rw-rw-r--1 mailman mailman 1484 Feb 18 14:42 2003-February.txt drwxrws---2 mailman mailman 4096 Feb 18 14:42 database -rw-rw-rw-1 apache mailman 1156 Feb 18 14:42 index.html -rw-rw1 mailman mailman 844 Feb 18 14:42 pipermail.pck Actually, what I was asking about was the permissions on the directory itself. Like this: ls -ld /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/cs223 If the permissions there look reasonable, then repeat that command, removing a directory each time, ala: ls -ld /usr/local/mailman/archives/private ls -ld /usr/local/mailman/archives ls -ld /usr/local/mailman - -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun. -- Buckminster Fuller -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iD8DBQE+Wpcwuv+09NZUB1oRAhUkAJ0Sf/kkX8g/QbOXebSIK6uKxDBSNwCeLtq/ mPgROeZb2spYAmLVb6WsDso= =3YOY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] How do I move a list from one virtual domain to another?
I need to move a mailing list from one of my virtual domains to another, but I can't find any information on how to proceed anywhere in the FAQ. The name of the list is the same, but the virtual domain is different. Previously, 'web_page_url' was available, but nowadays it isn't defined (bin/config_list -c) reports it as undefined. How is this done? / Peter Bengtson -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] auto-discard/purge to an announce list?
* Jonathan Ah Kit ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I am back running the sarge/testing Debian package (2.0.13, IIRC) of Mailman, and I'm wondering if there's a way to either auto discard all admindb requests? The rationale is that I run mostly announce lists at the moment, and with just confirm subscribes, I shouldn't need to approve anything at all, including the posts from only explicit address (which has been set). Check FAQ 1.12 On another related matter: I had to quickly downgrade this week by doing a quick archive backup and dpkg --purge. Next time I try the sid Debian package, anyone have some general tips on the upgrade? (Other than keeping a 2.0.13 config and db backup...) Upgrade should be smooth. Did you downgrade due to a problem? If so what was it? And its good to backup $prefix/lists $prefix/archives $prefix/data And in case you have custom web pages/messages, $prefix/templates and $prefix/messages And if your the paraniod sysadmin type.. just backup all of $prefix/ -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ Catch-23: Complete the previous catch before proceeding to this step. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] authentication problem on upgrade
* Dave Stern - Former Rocket Scientist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm going from 2.0.13 to 2.1.1. The machine I want to first test it on has no compiler so I copy the real mailman structures onto another machine, (let's call it test.domain) have account, group, perms etc set up, [snip] Traceback (most recent call last): File /etc/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main main() File /etc/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 82, in main cgidata.getvalue('adminpw', '')): File /etc/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 219, in WebAuthenticate print self.MakeCookie(ac, user) File /etc/mailman/Mailman/SecurityManager.py, line 234, in MakeCookie c = Cookie.SimpleCookie() AttributeError: 'Mailman.Cookie' module has no attribute 'SimpleCookie' Any ideas? Try cleaning out the cookies on the client machine. There have been problems with old 2.0.13 cookies interfearing with 2.1 cookies. Just an idea, see if that works. -- Matthew Davis http://dogpound.vnet.net/ DOS-O-MANIA : Reboot is not kicking your computer again -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] newsletter
It appears my particular problem might be related to either qmail or verp. Even if I have mailman configured correctly, my message headers include Return-Path which includes the email address of the original sender. Does anyone have any idea of how I can easily parse this out? Does mailman have this capability? Or is there an area of the code I can patch easily? Thanks, Curt On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 09:14 AM, Andy Firman wrote: On Sunday 23 February 2003 14:50, Curt Siffert wrote: Is there a way to keep the email address of a sender from showing up anywhere in the headers of the resulting email? I've got a newsletter with everyone moderated except for one user, who I'd like to be able to post to the list. But if his email address shows up in the email, someone else could forge it and be able to spam the list, couldn't they? Unless there's a way to hide the sender's email address. Is there a better way to handle this without requiring someone to approve a message through the web interface? Yes this is very simple and just by running a test list you will see how easy it is. Also, we just talked about this recently so look at the archives and you will find lots of information there. Andy -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ siffert%40museworld.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] 2.1.1, Archiving, News, and monthly reminders
Two quick questions: I just upgraded to 2.1.1 and now Archiving and Mail/News gatewaying appear on the list config page. I don't want provide archiving and Mail/News gateway is confusing a folks who don't know what News is but figure they should enable it anyway. Is there anyway to disable these to features? Second, is there any way to get the monthly password reminders to come from the list owners? I have maybe two dozen lists, some of them largem run by about a dozen people. Every month the password reminders go out and I get back about twenty message from people who didn't read the instructions and reply back to mailman with some request or another. I then have to manually forward the requests to the right list owner. Assuming it can't be setup that way, and looking at the code, it doesn't seem likely, how do other people handle this? Thanks, -Spike -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Approved: Header
I checked the FAQ for info on the Approved header, but although I found references to using it, I didn't find references to exactly HOW to use it. All I want is for a poster to a list to put an Approved line as the first line of the body and then have that line stripped before the message is passed to the list. How do I set this up and what needs to be on the approved line? -- The older you get the more you need the people you knew when you were young. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: Header
L == LuKreme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: L I checked the FAQ for info on the Approved header, but although L I found references to using it, I didn't find references to L exactly HOW to use it. L All I want is for a poster to a list to put an Approved line as L the first line of the body and then have that line stripped L before the message is passed to the list. L How do I set this up and what needs to be on the approved line? You don't need to do anything to set this up. Say you have a list with an admin password of geddy. If a non-member (or otherwise unapproved poster) sends a message to the list with a regular mail header of Approved: geddy then the message, which normally would be held or bounced, goes through to the list without moderation. Putting that line as the first non-whitespace line in the body of the message is equivalent. In both cases, the header and/or body line is removed before the message is forwarded. Approve: passwd is a synonym. Both the list admin password and the moderator password is accepted. Note that there's a related feature; if the header is Urgent: with the appropriate password, then the message is sent to all members immediately, including digest members (who get it twice -- once immediately and once in the digest). -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Postfix version? (Was Re: Mailman and Postfix *2*?)
On Monday, Feb 24, 2003, at 09:28 Canada/Mountain, John Redmond wrote: I installed 2.1 with Postfix 2.0.3 and all appears well. Mind you this is based on simple testing with low traffic, as I'm just getting ready to test with for actual users! Curiously, I can't seem to figure out what version of postfix is installed. There's no version flag that I can see in the man page. I mean, I THINK I am running 2.0.0.2, but that's just based on a faint recollection of installing that version. -- Sarah, age 18, says man, once you go crayola you can't go back. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] permission errors
I keep getting these errors in the errr log. Seems every day the config.pck files are created as user www, group mailman, and permissions of 660. Feb 24 23:15:02 2003 gate_news(28507): IOError : [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/Users/mailman/lists/thelist/config.pck' How do I fix this? -- ...when you're no longer searching for beauty or love, just some kind of life with the edges taken off. When you can't even define what it is that you're frightened of; this song will be here. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix version? (Was Re: Mailman and Postfix*2*?)
On Monday, Feb 24, 2003, at 09:28 Canada/Mountain, John Redmond wrote: I installed 2.1 with Postfix 2.0.3 and all appears well. Mind you this is based on simple testing with low traffic, as I'm just getting ready to test with for actual users! Curiously, I can't seem to figure out what version of postfix is installed. There's no version flag that I can see in the man page. I mean, I THINK I am running 2.0.0.2, but that's just based on a faint recollection of installing that version. check the maillogs -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Postfix *2*?
JB == Jeremy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JB Does Mailman work well with the recently released (20030112), version *2* JB of Postfix? Yes. However... Postfix' sendmail-style virtual domains are no longer officially documented or supported. Virtual domains are now specified using two postfix config variables: virtual_alias_domains and virtual_alias_maps. In virtual_alias_domains you wan to list the same domains you list in Mailman's POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS variable. virtual_alias_maps is the replacement for virtual_maps as Mailman uses it. Since Mailman doesn't set the postfix 'magic' entry to identify a domain to virtualize in the maps it generates, it is necessary to list them in the virtual_alias_domains variable. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org