Re: [Mailman-Users] Displaying Entire Membership List
On 31-May-2009, at 19:23, Mark Sapiro wrote: LuKreme wrote: Is there anyway to have it never ever use the new (well, not new anymore, I suppose) alphabetic chunks no matter what? I'd much prefer 100 per page, for as many pages as it takes. It's been an RFE for some time https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/266715. I understand that for lists of one or two hundred members, it might be desirable to show two to four pages of 50, but with thousands of members, the alphabetic chunks may be preferred. Yep, I can see that for lists of thousands of users it might be useful. But really, that's a tiny minority of lists. Most mailing lists are from a couple of dozen to a couple of hundred users. It seems like a tiered 'chunk size' might be useful. (Under 500 users, use x users per page, over 500 use alphabetics pages). Or, probably the best solution, given a list of say 198 users and a chunk-size of 50, display the pages like this: A-Fr Fu-Le Li-Ru Sa-Za (50) (50) (50) (48) assuming that users include a...@example.com and f...@example.com and fun...@example.com and l...@example.com and li...@example.com and rug...@example.com and sa...@example.com and z...@example.com. You're welcome to submit a patch. Ah, well, yeah. That might be realistic if 1) I was a real programmer instead of just a dabbler and 2) I spoke python. -- Beware of the Leopard! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Install question - was: Errors on mailman startup
Malveeka Tewari wrote: I trying to run mailman on my own laptop. I have been able to install mailman and it's running (i can view the mailman start up pages) I have specified the DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_HOST to be my laptop's ip addresses in mm_cfg.py But am not able to send/recieve mails I am also not able to create new lists. (When trying to create new lists, I get an error: *Unknown virtual host ) * Is there something wrong with my postfix installation or with the mm_cfg.py values? Did you mean DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST? Note that these should be defined as domain names, not IP addresses. IP addresses may work in some contexts, but if you don't have a domain name, you will have problems sending and receiving mail. Note these are generic problems with mail, and not specific to Mailman. In order to be able to send mail reliably, you need a non-generic domain name with a fixed IP address and a rDNS pointing from that IP to the domain name. Without these, you will find your mail blocked by many services. After defining DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST in mm_cfg.py, you need VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() to remove the Defaults.py values from the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary, and add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) to add the new values. Can you send mail from your laptop through the local Postfix? E.g., with Postfix's 'sendmail' command. Can your laptop receive any mail at all, e.g. for a local user? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] list member address parsing question
Hi list, Somebody suggested me ask the mailman folks this question. My google official account username is b...@domain.com but I have verified and activated another email address sam...@domain2.com . I am able to originate email with sam...@domain2.com in the from email but mailman still rejects the message claiming Sorry, only subscribers may post. Mailman thinks I am not a member of the list and is considering me b...@domain.com even though I can see in the bounce that sam...@domain2.com is in the From portion of the header. The SMTP header of the bounce claims Received-SPF: pass, Return-Path: b...@domain.com, and Sender: b...@domain.com When I send the same mail through a domain I administer the email sam...@domain2.com is properly identified. Is there anything more I can configure to appease mailman's legitimacy checking? Cheers, noah -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Displaying Entire Membership List
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, LuKreme wrote: It's been an RFE for some time https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/266715. I understand that for lists of one or two hundred members, it might be desirable to show two to four pages of 50, but with thousands of members, the alphabetic chunks may be preferred. Rather than limit the display to addresses beginning with the specified letter, why not just have the listing *start* at the specified letter, but continue to the end of the full list of members? If I select 'P' the list would start at 'P' and continue with 'Q' and 'R' up to 50 per page, and if I click the 'next' link, it would just keep going to the end of the list... Is there some efficiency to limiting the display to one letter of the alphabet? - C -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] list member address parsing question
admin2 wrote:
Somebody suggested me ask the mailman folks this question.
My google official account username is b...@domain.com but I have
verified and activated another email address sam...@domain2.com . I
am able to originate email with sam...@domain2.com in the from email
but mailman still rejects the message claiming Sorry, only subscribers
may post.
Is the address sam...@domain2.com a member of the list?
Mailman thinks I am not a member of the list and is
considering me b...@domain.com even though I can see in the bounce
that sam...@domain2.com is in the From portion of the header.
I do not understand the above. Which of these addresses are members of
the list. Mailman only goes by the exact email address. E.g. even if
us...@example.com is a list member, us...@mail.example.com is not.
The
SMTP header of the bounce claims Received-SPF: pass, Return-Path:
b...@domain.com, and Sender: b...@domain.com
When I send the same mail through a domain I administer the email
sam...@domain2.com is properly identified.
Is there anything more I can configure to appease mailman's legitimacy
checking?
As I said, I can't diagnose the issue without knowing what addresses
are list members. The following is in Defaults.py
# Membership tests for posting purposes are usually performed by
looking at a
# set of headers, passing the test if any of their values match a
member of
# the list. Headers are checked in the order given in this variable.
The
# value None means use the From_ (envelope sender) header. Field names
are
# case insensitive.
SENDER_HEADERS = ('from', None, 'reply-to', 'sender')
If this is unchanged in mm_cfg.py, a post will be considered to be from
a list member if any of From:, the envelope sender (Return-Path:),
Reply-To: or Sender: (in that order) contain an exact member address.
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San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Install question - was: Errors on mailman startup
Malveeka Tewari wrote: Yes I meant DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST.. Sorry about that Postfix seems to be working fine.. I am able to send and recieve mails to the local users I do not have a fixed IP address. Is there anywhere I can get a free domain name for my laptop fr sometime ( 1 week or so) so that I can test my mailman setup on my laptop? You could check out http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/. I am not recommending either for or against using such a service, just pointing it out. Since don't have any FQDN for my laptop, If I want to run mailman on my laptop what should i give the value of DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST ? You can use an IP address for testing purposes if you add it to the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary as I indicated in my prefious reply., but you can't actually run a real list in this way. Note also that even with a domain name as provided by dyndns or equivalent, many ISPs will not accept mail from such a domain. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Displaying Entire Membership List
Charles Gregory wrote: Rather than limit the display to addresses beginning with the specified letter, why not just have the listing *start* at the specified letter, but continue to the end of the full list of members? If I select 'P' the list would start at 'P' and continue with 'Q' and 'R' up to 50 per page, and if I click the 'next' link, it would just keep going to the end of the list... Is there some efficiency to limiting the display to one letter of the alphabet? The Mailman web interface is being totally reimplemented for Mailman 3.0. I have no interest in making these kinds of changes before that. If someone does a good implementation of this, I'm happy to look at it and possibly pick it up, but I'm not going to do it. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Virtual Domains for Mailing Lists in MailMan
Hello I found this E-Mail address on the MailMan homepage and decided to contact you as I don't seem to be able to locate the information I need elsewhere. To explain my circumstance. I am a visually impaired person, trying to get to grips with administrating a mail server under Apple Mac OS X 10.5.7 (Leopard) server. I need to host mailing lists under virtual domains hosted on our server but can't see quite how this is accomplished. Is there anywhere I can obtain this information as Apple's documentation on this subject seems poor from what I've seen. I really do apologise for any inconvenience I may cause you by contacting you - but if you could point me to the relevant information pages as to how to accomplish virtual domain list configuration under Apple's server platform I'd be very grateful. As a blind person this information is not always easy for me to locate. Thank you in advance for any help. Gordon -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Install question - was: Errors on mailman startup
Hi I trying to run mailman on my own laptop. I have been able to install mailman and it's running (i can view the mailman start up pages) I have specified the DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_HOST to be my laptop's ip addresses in mm_cfg.py But am not able to send/recieve mails I am also not able to create new lists. (When trying to create new lists, I get an error: *Unknown virtual host ) * Is there something wrong with my postfix installation or with the mm_cfg.py values? On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Malveeka Tewari malve...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks a lot! Now atleast my mailman is running Malveeka On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Malveeka Tewari wrote: I tried creating a newlist using bin/newlist It asked me for an email address and password which I enetered but I got an error Illegal list name: mailman-ad...@localhost The instructions you are following are no good. DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_HOST and the host names you supply to configure have to be fully qualified domain names. 'localhost' won't work. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Install question - was: Errors on mailman startup
Hi Mark Yes I meant DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST.. Sorry about that Postfix seems to be working fine.. I am able to send and recieve mails to the local users I do not have a fixed IP address. Is there anywhere I can get a free domain name for my laptop fr sometime ( 1 week or so) so that I can test my mailman setup on my laptop? Since don't have any FQDN for my laptop, If I want to run mailman on my laptop what should i give the value of DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST ? On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Malveeka Tewari wrote: I trying to run mailman on my own laptop. I have been able to install mailman and it's running (i can view the mailman start up pages) I have specified the DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_URL_HOST to be my laptop's ip addresses in mm_cfg.py But am not able to send/recieve mails I am also not able to create new lists. (When trying to create new lists, I get an error: *Unknown virtual host ) * Is there something wrong with my postfix installation or with the mm_cfg.py values? Did you mean DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST? Note that these should be defined as domain names, not IP addresses. IP addresses may work in some contexts, but if you don't have a domain name, you will have problems sending and receiving mail. Note these are generic problems with mail, and not specific to Mailman. In order to be able to send mail reliably, you need a non-generic domain name with a fixed IP address and a rDNS pointing from that IP to the domain name. Without these, you will find your mail blocked by many services. After defining DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST in mm_cfg.py, you need VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() to remove the Defaults.py values from the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary, and add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) to add the new values. Can you send mail from your laptop through the local Postfix? E.g., with Postfix's 'sendmail' command. Can your laptop receive any mail at all, e.g. for a local user? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Not delivering to local users
I have Fedora 10 running postfix-2.5.6-1.fc10.i386 and mailman-2.1.11-5.fc10.i386. I can send and recieve email fine. Mailman recieves all emails fine but only sends to remote users but not all remote users. Recipients on the local machine do not recieve any emails from mailman. I would like to figure out how to fix this. My settings are basically unchanged from an older Fedora 6 system. smtp-failure is full of entries like this: Jun 01 12:30:34 2009 (1059) delivery to us...@gxxx.xx failed with code -1: please run connect() first Jun 01 12:30:34 2009 (1059) delivery to us...@xxx.com failed with code -1: (111, 'Connection refused') My mm_cfg.py: DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'domain.net' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'domain.net' MTA = 'Postfix' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [''] VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) My postfix.cf: command_directory = /usr/sbin daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix inet_interfaces = all unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550 debug_peer_level = 2 debugger_command = PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin xxgdb $daemon_directory/$process_name $process_id sleep 5 newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq.postfix setgid_group = postdrop html_directory = no myhostname = domain.net mydomain = domain.net myorigin = $mydomain mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain message_size_limit = 209715200 local_recipient_maps = proxy:unix:passwd.byname $alias_maps smtp_helo_required= yes disable_vrfy_command = yes virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual, hash:/etc/mailman/virtual-mailman alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/etc/mailman/aliases smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_unknown_recipient_domain, permit_mynetworks, check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/pop-before-smtp, reject_unauth_destination, permit smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024 mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail mailbox_size_limit = 1197152000 allow_untrusted_routing = no readme_directory = no sample_directory = /etc/postfix sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail manpage_directory = /usr/local/man queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix mail_owner = postfix -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
